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Politie schiet met scherp op demonstranten, Latakia, Syrie


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Gearresteerde demonstranten geschopt en geslagen door veiligheidstroepen



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Ik maak mij zorgen om CLF. Is ie nog online gekomen sinds zijn bezoek aan Syri? :{
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Ziet er heftig uit. Neemt grote vormen aan zeg!
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  vrijdag 15 april 2011 @ 20:20:13 #279
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1s.gif Op vrijdag 15 april 2011 19:45 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:
Ik maak mij zorgen om CLF. Is ie nog online gekomen sinds zijn bezoek aan Syri? :{
Niet gezien. Ik ben bang dat hij in een Syrische cel zit en gemarteld wordt door zijn idool.
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[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  vrijdag 15 april 2011 @ 20:24:04 #280
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Syria's silent majority will determine next step as protests grow

Syria's protest movement is far from uniform, and divisions are becoming apparent as it gathers momentum

It was an episode that at any other time in Syria's history might have gone unnoticed. A month ago, a group of Syrian children, aged between 10 and 13, daubed anti-regime graffiti on a wall in a dusty town near the Jordan border. The security forces made some arrests. Relatives of the children protested. They were insulted and beaten.

Syrians have become used to this kind of brutality during the 11-year rule of Bashar al-Assad. But amid the revolt sweeping the Arab world, the incident quickly turned explosive. "It was unintentional," said Omar, 29, who identified himself as a family friend of the children in the original protest. "They saw on television Egypt and Tunisia and copied it."

In the month since then, protests have swirled around Syria, raising questions about the durability of the Assad regime. A rally in Deraa ended with six people being killed by security forces. The movement spread to other areas – Homs, the Damascus suburb Douma, Aleppo and Latakia in the north, Banias on the coast. Every time the security services tried to quash the protests, it merely provoked more unrest. The number of protests has increased ever since, as has the death toll, which is now estimated at more than 200.

Assad has tried waving threadbare olive branches: on Thursday he offered a prisoner release and appointed a new cabinet. But on Friday security forces used teargas to prevent thousands of protesters from marching towards Damascus's main Abbasside Square, while thousands once again took to the streets in a number of towns and cities from Deraa to Banias.

"We have always felt repression and lack of dignity but felt scared to do anything. Deraa changed that," said Mohammed, a 22-year-old student from the Damascus suburb of Madamiya where early on protests spilled out of mosques in solidarity with the "martyrs" of Deraa.

So who are the forces ranged against the Syrian president and can they follow the example of Tunisia and Egypt in ridding the region of another despot?

As in Egypt and Tunisia, latent anger has been simmering for years in Syria over a lack of jobs, corruption and nepotism and political repression at the hands of unaccountable security services.

Over the past three years prices have shot up, adding to economic woes, while a burgeoning youth population connected to the world through television and the internet has seen life outside. "The killing of people caused something to snap," said Mohammed. "As soon as I chanted for freedom and Deraa I felt like a human being for the first time in my life."

People like Mohammed form the majority of the protest movement – apolitical, informed, frustrated, mostly between 20 and 40 and largely male. There is much to complain about: a poor education system that fails to equip them for the job market, the nepotism and cronyism that disqualifies them from many opportunities, an inability to marry because they cannot afford a house.

Women have been less visible, though this week they turned out in their hundreds to call for the release of men rounded up in Beida. "We no longer trust the president," said one of the women, who did not want to be named. "We lack freedoms and corruption is everywhere, and the youths have demonstrated to address these issues peacefully. They [the security forces] faced them with fire."

She pointed out that her brother was summoned by the Syrian intelligence 30 years ago and has never returned home. "We do not know if he's dead or alive," she said.

This cohort has been bolstered by a small but budding group of lawyers, artists and aid workers engaged in social activism; teaching Iraqi refugees or taking food to victims of Syria's drought. "I have long been trying to organise protests," said one activist and former NGO worker in Damascus, who is subject to a travel ban, one of the Assad regime's tools of repression. "But until now people have been too scared – Egypt, Tunisia and Libya gave us inspiration whilst the killings caused anger to outweigh fear."

Activists like him have helped to organise further protests through a series of secret chatrooms online, and others such as Razan Zeitouneh and Wissam Tarif, two outspoken human rights activists who unusually go by their real names, seek to document the violence and garner media attention. In the last fortnight, members of the Damascus Declaration, a grouping of liberal and Islamist activists, have thrown their weight behind the protesters.

The movement is far from uniform, and divisions are becoming apparent as it grows. Calls for toppling Assad and defacing billboards of him are on the rise, but some protesters have specific demands. In Douma, some have called for the release of political prisoners and an end to shootings, while Mohammed says he wants "freedom" but is not yet sure what that means – "If good reforms are made, that may be enough."

And it would be wrong to say the movement is rampant or widespread. It may count many tens of thousands of supporters. But Syria is a country of more than 20 million people. And there may be as many Assad loyalists as there are protesters, people who through genuine admiration or fear of the alternative support the president.

Despite protesters from the Sunni majority being joined by some Kurds, Christians and reportedly Alawites from Assad's minority sect, they and many other Sunnis fear the rise of conservative Islam if Syria's secular state were to fall. Others look to Iraq and Lebanon as a forewarning. "We may not agree with everything, but the president has kept it safe for us," said one Christian in Damascus's Old City. A young female Muslim added: "He is young and understands us and is struggling against a regime he unintentionally inherited from his father."

Amid a standoff between protesters and the government, what comes next will depend on the large silent majority, including Sunni businessmen and religious figures. Almost all have the same aspirations to a life with dignity and without repression and for a chance to have more control over their lives and their country.

"I changed my mind after the speech he [Assad] gave," said Abdullah, a 30-year-old office worker who described himself as previously neutral. "I am thinking of joining the protest because I don't think he will – or even can – make changes." Kurds turned out to rally last week despite Assad's move to grant citizenship to tens of thousands of stateless Kurds.

But others say protesting is not the way. "Protests have not been about people changing their opinions but breaking the shackles stopping them from expressing them," said Ahmed, a 20-year-old from the impoverished eastern region. "I feel the same but I want to study and change things peacefully."

Assad can fall back on a regime apparatus that, despite occasional reports of reluctance by army conscripts to open fire on protesters, is loyal. The family has populated the upper echelons of the military and intelligence with Alawites who fear persecution if a Sunni majority takes hold.

There are also Sunni loyalists in the regime who through a system of carefully doled out benefits are discouraged from leaving Assad's side. Each time they take to the streets, Syria's protesters know they have a hard battle ahead with an unpredictable end.
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[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  vrijdag 15 april 2011 @ 21:15:58 #281
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Cafene is ook maar een drug.
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Syria: 'Don't kill more than 20 protesters in one day'

March 23 Syrian intelligence document details strategy to counter rebel sentiment, create links between rebels, "Zionist regime."

A document allegedly drafted by top Syrian intelligence officers, which details strict guidelines for carrying out rebel assassinations, infiltrating anti-regime organizations and distributing propaganda sound bites and images, has been published on Facebook.

Among the instructions handed down to security forces was an order to limit the number of protesters killed in one day to 20 people. The limited killing, the document says, was necessary in order to control international anger about the Assad regime's use of force against civilians, Israel Radio reported.

The document calls for anti-rebel forces to create links between government protesters and the US and Israel. In a translated version published in an msnbc.com report on Wednesday, a media campaign connecting "the anti-regime demonstrations and protests to figures hated by the Syrian populace such as the usual Saudi and Lebanese figures, and connecting the lot of them to Zionism and to America" is laid out.

Syrian President Bashar Assad is referred to as "our highest symbol" in the text.

The document is divided into two sections: A "detailed plan" and a breakdown of a potential revolutions "political economic factor."

The "detailed plan" involves "an intensive media campaign accusing the protesters and the enemies of being agents of Saudi Arabia, Israel and America," banning journalists from protest sites, and planting plain-clothes security and "eyewitnesses" in political hot spots to deliver rehearsed quotations and feedback.

Details of "political economic factor" include staged marches in support of Assad, lowering the prices of fuel and food in order to bolster public support, and agreeing to "some of the Kurdish demands."

The veracity of the document could not be verified by US officials, who were in possession of the document. The Syrian embassy refused to comment.
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[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 13:13:14 #282
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Wat een rust hier, rustiger dan in Damascus in ieder geval.

Demonstranten lijken het aanbod van Assad niet te accepteren en gaan wederom de straat op, wat nu?
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 15 april 2011 19:45 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:
Ik maak mij zorgen om CLF. Is ie nog online gekomen sinds zijn bezoek aan Syri? :{
laatste bezoek: 14 dagen, 19 uur geleden. :o

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0s.gif Op vrijdag 15 april 2011 20:20 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Niet gezien. Ik ben bang dat hij in een Syrische cel zit en gemarteld wordt door zijn idool.
lol, of hij helpt het regime met het onderdrukken van de demonstranten en is door de demonstranten het ziekenhuis ingeslagen :P
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Onrust in Syri houdt aan acht doden bij protesten in stad Homs

Toezeggingen van de Syrische president Bashar al-Assad over het opheffen van de noodtoestand in het land hebben niet tot het gewenste einde aan de al weken durende demonstraties tegen het regime geleid.

Bij het neerslaan van protesten door ordetroepen in de stad Homs vielen volgens een oppositiewoordvoerder vannacht acht doden. Demonstranten gingen daar volgens persbureau Reuters massaal de straat op nadat een bleek dat n van hen was komen te overlijden terwijl hij in bewaring zat. Volgens de woordvoerder, die op voorwaarde van anonimiteit met Reuters sprak, was de man in goede gezondheid toen hij opgepakt werd voor het deelnemen aan een demonstratie. En uu is hij als lijk de cel uitgekomen. Het is bekend dat de ordetroepen met harde hand optreden tegen demonstranten, maar dit is onaanvaardbaar.

Op veel plaatsen tienduizenden mensen de straat op
Ook gisteren, de dag dat het land 65 jaar onafhankelijkheid vierde, gingen in veel plaatsen in het land tienduizenden mensen de straat op. In de stad Talbiseh vielen volgens getuigen zeker vier doden toen de politie tijdens een begrafenis het vuur opende op betogers. Volgens het staatspersbureau Sana was er een politieman gedood en raakten elf anderen gewond. Ook uit andere steden, waaronder Aleppo, Deraa, Suwaida en Lattakia, kwamen berichten over nieuwe betogingen.

De demonstranten willen onder meer een einde aan de verstikkende greep van de veiligheidsdiensten op het alledaagse leven en de vrijlating van politieke gevangenen die vaak al jaren zonder proces vastzitten. Sommigen roepen ook openlijk om een eind aan het bewind van Assad, die de macht ruim tien jaar geleden van zijn vader erfde. Ook vrijdag na het traditionele vrijdagsgebed demonstreerden tienduizenden in het hele land tegen de regering.

In de afgelopen vier weken zijn er volgens mensenrechtenorganisaties al zeker 200 mensen om het leven gekomen bij betogingen, die veelal met geweld door de autoriteiten werden beindigd.
http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/(...)testen-in-stad-homs/
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  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 17:19:07 #285
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Assad gaat down. _O_Vraag me af hoe het allemaal zal gaan, gezien de alliantie tussen Syrie, Hezbollah en Iran.
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  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 17:19:16 #286
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0s.gif Op maandag 18 april 2011 16:45 schreef Charismatisch het volgende:

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laatste bezoek: 14 dagen, 19 uur geleden. :o

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lol, of hij helpt het regime met het onderdrukken van de demonstranten en is door de demonstranten het ziekenhuis ingeslagen :P
Pssst laten we nou niet meer over hem hebben heh. Zijn we eindelijk van dat zwart-wit achtige propaganda af ;-)
Laat me met rust!
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 18:24:50 #287
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0s.gif Op maandag 18 april 2011 17:19 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Assad gaat down. _O_Vraag me af hoe het allemaal zal gaan, gezien de alliantie tussen Syrie, Hezbollah en Iran.
Ongeveer vergelijkbaar met Irak.
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:12:31 #288
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Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:23:50 #289
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Al Jazeera Live blog vandaag:

6:05pm
Our correspondent Cal Perry says the government seems to slowly be losing control of many cities and towns outside Damascus. This footage, filmed in the Damascus suburb of Douma yesterday, seems to back up this point: protesters destroy all symbols of the government, tearing down pictures of President Bashar al-Assad and his father.


7:03pm
Protests seem to be spreading. Thousands rallying in Homs and our reporter Cal Perry in Damascus said he was just hearing news of a peaceful protest 10km west of the capital. There are also reports of a large demonstration by Kurds in Ain al-Arab in the north.
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:31:56 #290
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  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:34:29 #291
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Unrest Spreads Further

BEIRUT, Apr 18, 2011 (IPS) - Despite scarce official news reports emerging from Syria, information leaking out from activists on the ground describe the situation as deteriorating. While the government remains vague about events unfolding in the country, Friday prayers continue to ignite dissent that seems to be spreading to all social classes.


"People are very angry, especially since men arrested in the city of Banyas were released and accounts of torture circulated among residents," says one activist, who asked to remain anonymous for security reasons.

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=55293
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
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Ja, gaat er heftig aan toe. Duidelijk lijkt me in ieder geval dat ze het net zo proberen als in Egypte aanvankelijk: de mannen-in-burger. Tegelijkertijd heb ik ook gelezen dat tegenstanders van het regime met name in het westen wapens en geld hebben uitgedeeld.
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:39:12 #293
271497 Aloulou
aka Alulu
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Ja, zeker nu dit net naar buiten komt. Ook op Al Arabiyya net:

7:54pm
Rami, a protester in the square, just told Al Jazeera that a a sheikh has told the demonstrators that Maher al-Assad, the president's brother, said he would send the security forces to disperse protesters.

Rami says he can see a number of armed "hooligans" who are gathered around the demo.

He is saying all the protesters are unarmed civilians -about 50,000 - and they will continue protesting and camping out in the suqare until the regime is overthrown.
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:43:12 #294
271497 Aloulou
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Spam Bots Flooding Twitter to Drown Info About #Syria Protests

http://advocacy.globalvoi(...)bout-syria-protests/
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:46:08 #295
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0s.gif Op maandag 18 april 2011 19:39 schreef Aloulou het volgende:
Ja, zeker nu dit net naar buiten komt. Ook op Al Arabiyya net:

7:54pm
Rami, a protester in the square, just told Al Jazeera that a a sheikh has told the demonstrators that Maher al-Assad, the president's brother, said he would send the security forces to disperse protesters.

Rami says he can see a number of armed "hooligans" who are gathered around the demo.

He is saying all the protesters are unarmed civilians -about 50,000 - and they will continue protesting and camping out in the suqare until the regime is overthrown.


50.000 demonstranten? Dat is geen kattepies :o

Op welk plein in welke stad is dat?
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:47:53 #296
271497 Aloulou
aka Alulu
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In Homs, op het vrijheidsplein.

Deze Twitter heel veel berichten, ook vandaaruit lijkt het en echt laatste ontwikkelingen maar veelal in het Arabisch. Ordetroepen zijn er al omheen en hebben ze ingesloten.

http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Syria

Vandaag, namiddag:
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:55:38 #297
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eternalitysmile RT @syrianfront: Thousands of Protesters in Latakia now. pls dont forget People in Latakia are also in the streets. #Syria #latakia
less than 20 seconds ago via web


less than 20 seconds ago via twitterfeed
rev11info_en RT @democraticiran: NYT/ people are in charge in the city center now More than 10,000 people occupied a central square in Homs #Syria


ndabutterfly RT @khalidkhan787: #Homs New Clock Square now becoming Tahrir Square, largest ever sit -in of #Syria being witnessed right now
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
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Cables reveal covert US support for Syria's opposition
Newly released WikiLeaks cables reveal that the US State Department has been secretly financing Syrian opposition groups and other opposition projects for at least five years, The Washington Post reports.

That aid continued going into the hands of the Syrian government opposition even after the US began its reengagement policy with Syria under President Barack Obama in 2009, the Post reports. In January, the US posted its first ambassador to the country since the Bush administration withdrew the US ambassador in 2005 over concerns about Syria's involvement in the assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri.

The Obama administration has been trying to draw Syria away from its key ally Iran and closer to the US and its regional allies. The effort seems to have been largely unsuccessful so far, and antigovernment protests sweeping the country have complicated the issue. The US is struggling to determine how to support Syria's democratic protesters while not alienating the Assad government, which has cracked down brutally on demonstrations and blamed them on "foreign saboteurs," as The Christian Science Monitor reported last week.

That is a dilemma that concerned the US government even before the protests began. The author of an April 2009 cable expressed concern that some of the projects being funded by the US, if discovered by the Syrian government, would be perceived as "an attempt to undermine the Asad [sic] regime, as opposed to encouraging behavior reform."

The Post reported that much of the money as much as $6 million since 2006 has been funneled through a group of Syrian exiles in London, known as the Movement for Justice and Development. The group is connected to a London-based satellite television station that is broadcast in Syria, known as Barada TV, which has recently expanded its coverage to include the mass protests.

Several other civil society initiatives in Syria received secret US funding, but by 2009, US officials were concerned that the Syrian government had discovered the US funding. The Post was unable to confirm whether programs are still being funded, but cables indicate the funding was planned at least through September 2010.

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The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
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Ik las/hoorde het het op AJE, de opstand is dus niet zo spontaan. :X
En weer zit de US diep in de shit met deze leaks ~O>
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  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 22:18:25 #300
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0s.gif Op maandag 18 april 2011 18:24 schreef Djaser het volgende:

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Ongeveer vergelijkbaar met Irak.
Dat denk ik niet. Wat er in Irak aan de hand is komt mede dankzij de USA en Co.
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