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Bedenk je eens: Syri is het lokale vliegdekschip van Rusland. Assad is een stroman van (met name) de Russen.
Bedenk je ook eens wat er met de belang van Rusland zou gebeuren als Assad zou verdwijnen. Er staat enorm veel op het spel. Dan hebben ze geen voet meer aan de grond in het Midden-Oosten. Een enorme nederlaag.
Bedenk je ook eens wat er met de belang van Rusland zou gebeuren als Assad zou verdwijnen. Er staat enorm veel op het spel. Dan hebben ze geen voet meer aan de grond in het Midden-Oosten. Een enorme nederlaag.
En dan heb je ook de lucratieve wapenhandel.quote:Op woensdag 30 maart 2011 21:30 schreef Chooselife het volgende:
Bedenk je eens: Syri is het lokale vliegdekschip van Rusland. Assad is een stroman van (met name) de Russen.
Bedenk je ook eens wat er met de belang van Rusland zou gebeuren als Assad zou verdwijnen. Er staat enorm veel op het spel. Dan hebben ze geen voet meer aan de grond in het Midden-Oosten. Een enorme nederlaag.
2008 Russia-Syria weapons deal alarms US
2010 Russia signs Syria arms deals
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
Syri heeft o.a. een batterij S-300's. De vrees voor elke Westerse luchtmacht. Zeer serieus luchtafweer.quote:
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En dan heb je ook de lucratieve wapenhandel.
2008 Russia-Syria weapons deal alarms US
2010 Russia signs Syria arms deals
Lees je in zou ik zeggen, 4 minuten google doet wonderen.quote:
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.....dat de toestand in Syrie niet zo repressief is als in de andere landen zo was....
Syrie niet zo repressief
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
6:30pm
We are hearing reports of new unrest in Syria, just a few hours after President Assad addressed the nation.
In Latakia, witnesses say security forces opened fire to disperse a crowd rallying outside the mayor's office.
Haytham Manna, the spokesperson for the Arab Commission for Human Rights, told Al Jazeera he expects the protests in Syria to continue.
7:20pm
Here is a round-up of developments within hours of Assad's speech in Damascus:
- One witness told Al Jazeera clashes broke out in front of the mayor's office in Latakia, where 12 people were killed last week during protests.
- Residents of the port city of Latakia, who asked to remain unidentified for security reasons, said Syrian troops opened fire during a protest by about 100 people. It was not clear if they fired in the air or at protesters.
- Syrian activists told Al Jazeera that they are very disappointed with Assad's speech and have called for more demonstrations after Friday prayers later this week.
6:15pm
Watch the Syrian State Television footage below of a woman approaching President Assad's car after his speech. She appears to be a protester and is immediately surrounded by security forces:
Meer info + filmpjes: http://blogs.aljazeera.ne(...)a-live-blog-march-30
We are hearing reports of new unrest in Syria, just a few hours after President Assad addressed the nation.
In Latakia, witnesses say security forces opened fire to disperse a crowd rallying outside the mayor's office.
Haytham Manna, the spokesperson for the Arab Commission for Human Rights, told Al Jazeera he expects the protests in Syria to continue.
7:20pm
Here is a round-up of developments within hours of Assad's speech in Damascus:
- One witness told Al Jazeera clashes broke out in front of the mayor's office in Latakia, where 12 people were killed last week during protests.
- Residents of the port city of Latakia, who asked to remain unidentified for security reasons, said Syrian troops opened fire during a protest by about 100 people. It was not clear if they fired in the air or at protesters.
- Syrian activists told Al Jazeera that they are very disappointed with Assad's speech and have called for more demonstrations after Friday prayers later this week.
6:15pm
Watch the Syrian State Television footage below of a woman approaching President Assad's car after his speech. She appears to be a protester and is immediately surrounded by security forces:
Meer info + filmpjes: http://blogs.aljazeera.ne(...)a-live-blog-march-30
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
Wat een onzin, elke tegenstander die op dat moment de straat op kwam werd neergemaaid. Een Syrier vertelde Al Jazeera dat in Dara'a ze met grote wapens checkpoints hadden opgezet en geen hond op straat was te vinden...raar he? Daar zorgde men wel voor. Toen de journalist erin wilde en werd tegengehouden en opwierp dat vooraf gezegd was dat "het geen enkel probleem was om er tijdens de speech als journalist te zijn" stonden de militairen met de mond vol tanden.quote:
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Ik zei het eerder al. Al die bejaarden, kinderen en vrouwen zijn allemaal van de geheime dienst.
God bless el-Assad
Die bejaarden zijn zo te zacht, overal zo in die landen. Ze willen geen onrust en gewoon rust... "sabr ibni, sabr" (geduld mijn zoon). Die kinderen en vrouwen hebben oproep gekregen, vooral gezinnen en je weet dat als je niet gaat het grote consequenties heeft. Daffy doet het ook zo, same cup of tea. Studenten wordt gedreigd de studie in te trekken, Daffy deed het ook zo.
En een aantal mannetjes van de geheime dienst duwen ze de gladde posters van Assad in handen, of denk je dat al die mensen die posters in huiskamer hebben hangen
Assad's masker is gevallen voor zijn bevolking... en die sneeuwbal... die komt nog wel terug op zijn platte hoofd. Let maar op kameraad, kwestie van tijd
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
Welk masker? De bevolking is blij met Assad.quote:
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Wat een onzin, elke tegenstander die op dat moment de straat op kwam werd neergemaaid. Een Syrier vertelde Al Jazeera dat in Dara'a ze met grote wapens checkpoints hadden opgezet en geen hond op straat was te vinden...raar he? Daar zorgde men wel voor. Toen de journalist erin wilde en werd tegengehouden en opwierp dat vooraf gezegd was dat "het geen enkel probleem was om er tijdens de speech als journalist te zijn" stonden de militairen met de mond vol tanden.
Die bejaarden zijn zo te zacht, overal zo in die landen. Ze willen geen onrust en gewoon rust... "sabr ibni, sabr" (geduld mijn zoon). Die kinderen en vrouwen hebben oproep gekregen, vooral gezinnen en je weet dat als je niet gaat het grote consequenties heeft. Daffy doet het ook zo, same cup of tea. Studenten wordt gedreigd de studie in te trekken, Daffy deed het ook zo.
En een aantal mannetjes van de geheime dienst duwen ze de gladde posters van Assad in handen, of denk je dat al die mensen die posters in huiskamer hebben hangen
Assad's masker is gevallen voor zijn bevolking... en die sneeuwbal... die komt nog wel terug op zijn platte hoofd. Let maar op kameraad, kwestie van tijd
Een van de demonstranten wist het goed te verwoorden:
"The media wants to see protests in Syria? Here are the protests of Syria!"
Nooit in Syri geweest? Er is zelfs een Assad winkelquote:
En een aantal mannetjes van de geheime dienst duwen ze de gladde posters van Assad in handen, of denk je dat al die mensen die posters in huiskamer hebben hangen
.... en daarna keek hij vlug over zijn schouder of de geheime dienst in burger wel goed hoorde hoe lovend hij was over Assad. Ik neem het de mensen ook niet kwalijk, ze doen het uit lijfsbehoud namelijk. Maar de echte helden zijn zij die zich niet het zwijgen op laten leggen en bereid daarvoor een dure prijs te betalen.quote:
Een van de demonstranten wist het goed te verwoorden:
"The media wants to see protests in Syria? Here are the protests of Syria!"
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
Haha zelfs Daffy die zijn eigen wijze groene boekje aka "vrouwen zijn net zo gelijkwaardig als mannen" overal propageerde is niet erop gekomen een "Khadafi shop" te laten openen.quote:
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Nooit in Syri geweest? Er is zelfs een Assad winkel
Als de beste man dood is, okee. In China een Mao shop en Syrie Assad... maar terwijl hij nog leeft is wel erg veel van het goede..
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
Waarom mag het volk dan niet beslissen?quote:
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Welk masker? De bevolking is blij met Assad.
Een van de demonstranten wist het goed te verwoorden:
"The media wants to see protests in Syria? Here are the protests of Syria!"
I am a Chinese college students, I have a loving father, but I can not help him, he needs to do heart bypass surgery, I can not help him, because the cost of 100,000 or so needed, please help me, lifelong You pray Thank you!
"Ze zijn er nog niet klaar voor"quote:
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Waarom mag het volk dan niet beslissen?
... tegenvraag: wanneer dan wel?
"Veranderingen gaan geleidelijk, gewoon afwachten dus... als de grote roerganger het volk klaar acht komt het vanzelf"
... ok, we wachten dan maar nog zo'n 50 jaar af inderdaad. steekhoudende argumentatie.
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
Waarom wil jij voor het volk beslissen? Ze hebben de afgelopen dagen al duidelijk aangegeven dat ze nog niet zitten te wachten op democratie. El-Assad zijn ze tevreden mee.quote:
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Waarom mag het volk dan niet beslissen?
Ze hebben "duidelijk" aangegeven dat ze helemaal niet erop zitten te wachten! Snap dat nou
Zo duidelijk dat Assad (en niet Al-Assad) als de dood is voor een vrije verkiezing en/of eerlijk referendum, alles behalve dat.
En Khadafi was ook niet de leider van Libie maar het volk zelf regeerde middels volkscongressen!
Zo duidelijk dat Assad (en niet Al-Assad) als de dood is voor een vrije verkiezing en/of eerlijk referendum, alles behalve dat.
En Khadafi was ook niet de leider van Libie maar het volk zelf regeerde middels volkscongressen!
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
De betogers hebben daar ook niet om gevraagd, het zijn tot nu toe bijna allemaal ongeorganiseerde kleine demonstraties ie in vergelijking met de pro-demonstraties niets voorstellen. De meerderheid van de demonstranten is voor al-Assad (en niet Assad)quote:Op donderdag 31 maart 2011 01:46 schreef Aloulou het volgende:
Ze hebben "duidelijk" aangegeven dat ze helemaal niet erop zitten te wachten! Snap dat nou
Zo duidelijk dat Assad (en niet Al-Assad) als de dood is voor een vrije verkiezing en/of eerlijk referendum, alles behalve dat.
En Khadafi was ook niet de leider van Libie maar het volk zelf regeerde middels volkscongressen!
Terrorism is the poor mans war, war is the rich mans terrorism.
Evengoed als het in Libi "el-qadhafi" is.quote:
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De betogers hebben daar ook niet om gevraagd, het zijn tot nu toe bijna allemaal ongeorganiseerde kleine demonstraties ie in vergelijking met de pro-demonstraties niets voorstellen. De meerderheid van de demonstranten is voor al-Assad (en niet Assad)
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Waarom wil jij voor het volk beslissen? Ze hebben de afgelopen dagen al duidelijk aangegeven dat ze nog niet zitten te wachten op democratie. El-Assad zijn ze tevreden mee.
En de meerderheid van het volk? En als de meerderheid voor is, waarom dan geen officiele telling hiervan?quote:
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De betogers hebben daar ook niet om gevraagd, het zijn tot nu toe bijna allemaal ongeorganiseerde kleine demonstraties ie in vergelijking met de pro-demonstraties niets voorstellen. De meerderheid van de demonstranten is voor al-Assad (en niet Assad)
I am a Chinese college students, I have a loving father, but I can not help him, he needs to do heart bypass surgery, I can not help him, because the cost of 100,000 or so needed, please help me, lifelong You pray Thank you!
Hoe weet je dat? Is er in Syrie enige vrijheid om anti-demonstraties te organiseren of uberhaupt een anti-mening aan de man te brengen?quote:
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De betogers hebben daar ook niet om gevraagd, het zijn tot nu toe bijna allemaal ongeorganiseerde kleine demonstraties ie in vergelijking met de pro-demonstraties niets voorstellen. De meerderheid van de demonstranten is voor al-Assad (en niet Assad)
Genoeg activisten die nu ook weer oproepen tot acties maar alleen voor die gedachte wordt je al opgesloten in Syrie, laat staan als je echt de straat opgaat. Mener Bashar al-Assad laat totaal geen ruimte voor enige publieke kritiek open en daarnaast is het bekend dat zijn regime, partij en geheime dienst allerlei pro-demo's opzetten. Zie het verhaal van de Grote Moskee afgelopen week waar binnen een paar minuten buiten zijn geheime dienst in burger "Leve Assad" stonden te schreeuwen nadat iemand in de Moskee de waarheid riep en ook daar direct werd overmeesterd door de alom aanwezige geheime dienst. Niets nieuws overigens, die andere Arabische "leiders" (lees criminelen) doen precies hetzelfde... dat is het grappige ook, precies dezelfde taktiek: samenzwering v buitenlanders, ze willen het land in puin brengen, "veranderen komen echt wel... maar op onze manier", staatspropaganda all day en iedereen die zijn smoel opentrekt kan een kogel verwachten.
Enige uitzondering tot een bepaalde hoogte is Marokko waar ze wel mogen demonstreren.
De rest is het bek houden en doorlopen, "niets aan de hand mensen, komt allemaal goed".
Maar als Irakees weet jij dat ook wel.
[ Bericht 2% gewijzigd door Aloulou op 31-03-2011 08:59:16 ]
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
Wat zei CLF ook alweer over Nasrallahquote:
CLF en de terroristen zijn in hetzelfde kamp en strijden voor hun held Assad.
Grote kans dat veel Hezbollah-aanhangers naar Syri zijn afgereisd voor die pro-Assad demonstratie!
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De geheime agenten hebben vrouwen, kinderen, ouders etc.quote:
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Ik zei het eerder al. Al die bejaarden, kinderen en vrouwen zijn allemaal van de geheime dienst.
God bless el-Assad
Die zijn allemaal voor het regime omdat ze weten dat mocht het regime vallen, ze zich moeten verantwoorden voor hun misdaden.
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Daarom postte ik die foto ook, benieuwd naar de reactie van extremisten-lover-CLF....quote:Op donderdag 31 maart 2011 12:39 schreef Charismatisch het volgende:
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Wat zei CLF ook alweer over Nasrallah
CLF en de terroristen zijn in hetzelfde kamp en strijden voor hun held Assad.
Grote kans dat veel Hezbollah-aanhangers naar Syri zijn afgereisd voor die pro-Assad demonstratie!
Complexe situatie in Syri nu. Ik denk dat het vrij rustig blijft in afwachting van de eventuele hervormingen die al-Assad aan heeft gekondigd. Ik heb namelijk het idee dat het echte "geloof" in een revolutie er nog niet is, zeker niet in het hele land. Ook is de oppositie te divers en te versplinterd om echt een vuist te maken.
Op een of andere manier heb ik bij al-Assad het idee dat hij echt wel het goede voorheeft met het land en ook wel een verstandige man is (net even zijn hele speech van gisteren teruggekeken). Natuurlijk wordt hij teveel verheerlijkt en koopt hij zijn steun grotendeels af, maar laten we nu hopen op een kleine revolutie binnen de macht van al-Assad.
Op een of andere manier heb ik bij al-Assad het idee dat hij echt wel het goede voorheeft met het land en ook wel een verstandige man is (net even zijn hele speech van gisteren teruggekeken). Natuurlijk wordt hij teveel verheerlijkt en koopt hij zijn steun grotendeels af, maar laten we nu hopen op een kleine revolutie binnen de macht van al-Assad.
Wat een drukte, die posters worden daar al jaaaaaaaaaaaren verkocht.quote:
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Daarom postte ik die foto ook, benieuwd naar de reactie van extremisten-lover-CLF....
Het zit je kennelijk erg diep dat de man toch nog erg populair is bij de Syrische bevolking.quote:
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De geheime agenten hebben vrouwen, kinderen, ouders etc.
Die zijn allemaal voor het regime omdat ze weten dat mocht het regime vallen, ze zich moeten verantwoorden voor hun misdaden.
Niet echt. Het is voor mij wat Syri betreft sowieso een win-win situatie. Natuurlijk heb ik liever dat de dictator vertrekt omdat ik een gruwelijke hekel heb aan baathisten, maar mocht ie blijven dan ga ik er niets op achteruit. Deze dictator zit namelijk (vanwege zijn geloof) in het juiste kamp (Iran, Hezbollah). Ik ben meer anti-Saoedi Arabi en hun dictatoriale bondgenoten in die regio. Ik was dan ook zeer tevreden dat Mubarak van Egypte optiefte. En ik zal ook geen traan laten om Saddam Insane de baathist. Bij Bashar al-Assad is het meer 50/50.quote:
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Het zit je kennelijk erg diep dat de man toch nog erg populair is bij de Syrische bevolking.
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Protests Break Out After Friday Prayers in Syria
01/04/2011 15:03:00
Protests broke out in three Syrian cities against Baath Party rule after prayers on Friday, Syrian activists said.
Two days after President Bashar al-Assad termed mass protests demanding freedoms a foreign conspiracy, protests against Baath Party rule broke out after Friday prayers in three Syrian cities.
Hundreds of people took to the streets in and around Damascus, Alarabiya reported, where security forces fired tear gas at protesters. The suburb of Douma, and the coastal cities of Latakia and Banias, also witnessed such protests.
An activist, who preferred to remain anonymous told AFP that the real cause, the ultimate cause, is that they have been... beaten in their own streets, silenced, for more than 40 years.
He went on to say: "But the most pressing cause, in today's rallies, is the President's speech, which dashed all our hopes and expectations. We have been hearing the same speech for decades."
The protests after weekly Muslim prayers are being staged for a third week in succession.
President Assad, is facing domestic pressure unprecedented in his 11-year rule, failed to lift almost 50 years of emergency rule on Wednesday in his first address to the nation since the protests demanding greater freedoms erupted more than two weeks ago.
He instead said there was a "conspiracy" targeting unity in Syria, blaming the country's "enemies" for taking advantage of the needs of the people to incite division in the country ruled by emergency law since the Baath party seized power in 1963.
The Syria Revolution 2011 has called for rallies at all mosques after noon prayers until their demands for "freedom" are met. It offered tips for sending out mass text messages and protection from tear gas.
The three-week protests have turned deadly, with activists estimating over 150 people killed in clashes with security forces, mainly in the southern governorate of Daraa, a tribal area at the Jordanian border, and the coastal city of Latakia.
Officials however put the death toll at about 30 and have accused Muslim extremists and "armed gangs" of pushing peaceful rallies into violence with the aim of inciting sectarian unrest in Syria, which prides itself on coexistence in a region torn by confessional strife.
In a conciliatory move, on Thursday President Assad ordered a string of reforms, including a study of new laws on the media and political pluralism and plans to tackle the plight of 300,000 Kurds who have been denied Syrian citizenship for close to half a century.
http://tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=1&i=5745
01/04/2011 15:03:00
Protests broke out in three Syrian cities against Baath Party rule after prayers on Friday, Syrian activists said.
Two days after President Bashar al-Assad termed mass protests demanding freedoms a foreign conspiracy, protests against Baath Party rule broke out after Friday prayers in three Syrian cities.
Hundreds of people took to the streets in and around Damascus, Alarabiya reported, where security forces fired tear gas at protesters. The suburb of Douma, and the coastal cities of Latakia and Banias, also witnessed such protests.
An activist, who preferred to remain anonymous told AFP that the real cause, the ultimate cause, is that they have been... beaten in their own streets, silenced, for more than 40 years.
He went on to say: "But the most pressing cause, in today's rallies, is the President's speech, which dashed all our hopes and expectations. We have been hearing the same speech for decades."
The protests after weekly Muslim prayers are being staged for a third week in succession.
President Assad, is facing domestic pressure unprecedented in his 11-year rule, failed to lift almost 50 years of emergency rule on Wednesday in his first address to the nation since the protests demanding greater freedoms erupted more than two weeks ago.
He instead said there was a "conspiracy" targeting unity in Syria, blaming the country's "enemies" for taking advantage of the needs of the people to incite division in the country ruled by emergency law since the Baath party seized power in 1963.
The Syria Revolution 2011 has called for rallies at all mosques after noon prayers until their demands for "freedom" are met. It offered tips for sending out mass text messages and protection from tear gas.
The three-week protests have turned deadly, with activists estimating over 150 people killed in clashes with security forces, mainly in the southern governorate of Daraa, a tribal area at the Jordanian border, and the coastal city of Latakia.
Officials however put the death toll at about 30 and have accused Muslim extremists and "armed gangs" of pushing peaceful rallies into violence with the aim of inciting sectarian unrest in Syria, which prides itself on coexistence in a region torn by confessional strife.
In a conciliatory move, on Thursday President Assad ordered a string of reforms, including a study of new laws on the media and political pluralism and plans to tackle the plight of 300,000 Kurds who have been denied Syrian citizenship for close to half a century.
http://tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=1&i=5745
At least 12 killed in anti-government rallies in Syria
Deaths in Syrian protest march for freedom
Cairo/Damascus - At least 12 people were killed in two Syrian cities Friday, activists said, when demonstrators took to the streets in anti-government protests in response to calls for nationwide rallies.
Independent verification of the toll is difficult, as foreign journalists are either barred from Syria, or largely confined to Damsacus.
http://www.monstersandcri(...)ent-rallies-in-Syria
Several deaths have been reported as anti-government protests got under way in several Syrian cities after Muslim prayers on Friday, activists have said.
Protest marches against Baath Party rule demanding freedoms broke out in cities in the north and south, including the flashpoint city of Daraa.
Hundreds of people took to the streets in and around the capital, Damascus, on Friday afternoon as security forces and ruling party loyalists attacked protesters with batons in Rifaii mosque in the city.
http://english.aljazeera.(...)141132440493496.html
Deaths in Syrian protest march for freedom
Cairo/Damascus - At least 12 people were killed in two Syrian cities Friday, activists said, when demonstrators took to the streets in anti-government protests in response to calls for nationwide rallies.
Independent verification of the toll is difficult, as foreign journalists are either barred from Syria, or largely confined to Damsacus.
http://www.monstersandcri(...)ent-rallies-in-Syria
Several deaths have been reported as anti-government protests got under way in several Syrian cities after Muslim prayers on Friday, activists have said.
Protest marches against Baath Party rule demanding freedoms broke out in cities in the north and south, including the flashpoint city of Daraa.
Hundreds of people took to the streets in and around the capital, Damascus, on Friday afternoon as security forces and ruling party loyalists attacked protesters with batons in Rifaii mosque in the city.
http://english.aljazeera.(...)141132440493496.html
Meer van AJE:
[1]Syrian forces reportedly fired tear gas at protesters in the suburb of Douma, and in the coastal cities of Latakia and Banias.
[2]Our correspondent said at least four person was killed and 30 injured in the village of Sanamin, besieged by the Syrian army, when people from nearby villages were barred from paying their respects to those killed earlier in the week.
[3]Protest organisers quoted by the AFP news agency said rallies were also being staged for the first time in the mainly Kurdish-populated northeast." Several hundred people marched peacefully in the streets of Qamishli and Amuda … chanting 'we don't only want citizenship but freedom as well'," Radif Mustafa, a Kurdish rights activist, told AFP.
Latakia (stad met diverse bevolkingsgroepen) na de speech van Assad (2 dagen geleden):
[1]Syrian forces reportedly fired tear gas at protesters in the suburb of Douma, and in the coastal cities of Latakia and Banias.
[2]Our correspondent said at least four person was killed and 30 injured in the village of Sanamin, besieged by the Syrian army, when people from nearby villages were barred from paying their respects to those killed earlier in the week.
[3]Protest organisers quoted by the AFP news agency said rallies were also being staged for the first time in the mainly Kurdish-populated northeast." Several hundred people marched peacefully in the streets of Qamishli and Amuda … chanting 'we don't only want citizenship but freedom as well'," Radif Mustafa, a Kurdish rights activist, told AFP.
Latakia (stad met diverse bevolkingsgroepen) na de speech van Assad (2 dagen geleden):
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
Beest Assad heeft gisteren 9 mensen vermoord en vandaag 37 mensen gearresteerd:
http://www.nu.nl/algemeen(...)taties-in-syrie.htmlquote:Tientallen arrestaties in Syri
DAMASCUS - De Syrische veiligheidsdiensten hebben zaterdag 37 mensen aangehouden. Dat gebeurde een dag nadat in de stad Douma, ten noorden van de hoofdstad Damascus, zeker negen mensen waren omgekomen bij demonstraties tegen het regime van president Bashar al-Assad.
Zowel in de zuidelijke stad Deraa, een van de belangrijkste centra van de onrust van de laatste weken, als in Douma en de noordelijke industriestad Homs werden mensen opgepakt.
Een inwoner van Douma zei dat de situatie daar zaterdag rustig was. De veiligheidsdiensten gaven daar de lichamen van sommige slachtoffers van het geweld van vrijdag niet vrij, kennelijk om te voorkomen dat hun begrafenis op nieuwe protesten zou uitlopen.
De Syrische staatsmedia maakten vrijdag melding van de protesten, maar die zouden overwegend kalm zijn verlopen. Slechts n meisje zou zijn omgekomen.
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Online link van een Syrische nieuwsbrief (bevat veel nuttige links):
http://www.icontact-archi(...)aR4ODPE4apyGfGBz?w=3
http://www.icontact-archi(...)aR4ODPE4apyGfGBz?w=3
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Ik zie dat CLF online komt maar niet meer in dit topic post. Volgens mij is hij nu in Syri. Hoezo post je niets meer CLF? Ben je bang dat je iets verkeerds post en de thugs van jouw geliefde leider je in een cel gooien en gaan martelen?
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ja, ik meen mij te herinneren dat hij aangaf binnenkort naar Syrie te gaan.quote:
Ik zie dat CLF online komt maar niet meer in dit topic post. Volgens mij is hij nu in Syri. Hoezo post je niets meer CLF? Ben je bang dat je iets verkeerds post en de thugs van jouw geliefde leider je in een cel gooien en gaan martelen?
En ik weet wel heel zeker dat hij beseft dat je dit subforum niet vanuit Syrie moet bezoeken en zeker niet dit topic. Leuk dat hij voor zijn eigen grote persoonlijke voorbeeld en roerganger Al-Assad nu bang is en maar veilig hier wegblijft. Tot zover de Syrische heilstaat dan maar he.
Straks weer veilig vanuit NL allemaal pro-assad filmpjes posten en hier heel de dag rondhangen
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
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ja, ik meen mij te herinneren dat hij aangaf binnenkort naar Syrie te gaan.
En ik weet wel heel zeker dat hij beseft dat je dit subforum niet vanuit Syrie moet bezoeken en zeker niet dit topic. Leuk dat hij voor zijn eigen grote persoonlijke voorbeeld en roerganger Al-Assad nu bang is en maar veilig hier wegblijft. Tot zover de Syrische heilstaat dan maar he.
Straks weer veilig vanuit NL allemaal pro-assad filmpjes posten en hier heel de dag rondhangen
Hieronder een email met de eisen van de Syrische oppositie:
quote:Demands of Syrian Freedom Protesters
Some observers and some of the Syrian people still think that the protesters demands are not clear. In some cases they think these demands are not fair demands due to the intentional distortion of Syrian official media.
Therefore, we believe that it is a priority to clarify these demands to the Syrian people and make the demands united for all protesters.
These demands are addressed to the Syrian Regime. We believe that all the chanting of "Regime Collapse" here and there were results of the people's desperation of the Regime's positive response. However, we don't think any of the Syrian people will demand regime collapse if they respond to these demands.
First - Immediate Actions:
1. The release of all political and opinion prisoners and detainees and allowing all exiled Syrians to comeback home without any conditions, restrictions or exceptions.
2. The lifting of the State of Emergency and Martial Law in a clear, unequivocal statement without replacing it with any similar laws. This shall also include the dismantling of the illegal state security court and all exceptional courts and the canceling of all rulings of these courts.
3. Withdrawing of all armed secret service (Intelligence) forces from Syrian cities; especially Deraa, and retaining only normal police forces for security reserve, removing the siege from Deraa and other cities, compensating affected people for all damages, compensating the families of martyrs and the prosecution of those responsible parties after conducting an immediate, transparent investigation that can be monitored by local and Arabian Human Rights organizations.
4. The issuing of an explicit Republican Decree to guarantee the right of peaceful demonstration and the criminalization of any assaults or threats directed at demonstrators.
5. To termination of all threatening and intimidating acts against our sons and daughters in our schools whether by school staff or secret service agents in and around the schools and to refrain from obliging them to participate in demonstrations supporting the regime.
6. The cancellation of all the secret service agencies authority to arrest people based on their political and religious beliefs. The restructuring of the various secret service agencies into one National Security Agency under the supervision of the Ministry of Interior and the application of modern work standards that guarantee human and constitutional rights.
Second - Acts with a defined timetable:
1. The amending of the constitution, specially article eight, to accommodate a multiparty democracy and guarantee basic human rights and peaceful transition of authority.
2. The Establishment of a truly independent judiciary system, with immunity and integrity, free of political influence by applying radical actions that shall be developed jointly with local human rights organizations and concerned syndicates.
3. To allow complete freedom of information in all media and to guarantee the freedom of expression.
4. The issuance of a modern law that allows for the creation of political parties and social organizations that complies with this new era, addresses the ambitions of the youth and allows the building and activation of civil society organizations.
5. The creation of a modern, multiple party election law and the holding of free and fair elections for municipal councils and Parliament that guarantee fair representation of all segments of the Syrian people. The formation of a Parliamentary Government that can fight corruption and poverty, hold corrupt people accountable for their acts and achieve real development.
6. The resolution of the Kurdi issue by returning Nationality to the deprived and concealed Kurdi citizens, the reallocation of lands to their owners and the improvement of their living standards.
7. Immediate action to be taken to clear the existing corruption in Syria by dismantling the sponsoring networks and guarding powers. The holding to account the corrupt people for their crimes and the confiscation of all ill-gotten wealth. The review of all contracts that are unfair to the state and Syrian society, especially the mobile networks contracts.
8. The announcement of an accurate and transparent plan to eliminate poverty and unemployment in Syria. Such a plan shall be evaluated semiannually by Parliament.
9. The convening of a National General Conference for all national powers to discuss all pending issues and agree on a national plan for reform in Syria.
These demands are essential to end the current crisis and they are fair demands for the Syrian people who have suffered decades of suppression, corruption, the stealing of Syrian wealth and violations of human rights.
Long live a free and proud Syria and long live a free and proud Syrian people!
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Ik merk eigenlijk zeer weinig van de onrusten in Syrie, op wat kleinschalige pro-bashar demonstraties na. Woon sinds Augustus vorig jaar in Damascus. Ik zal wat foto's en video's plaatsen van de demonstraties (internet is traag dus kan ff duren).
Zoals gewoonlijk is de dictator altijd te laat.
quote:Syria's Assad makes overture to Kurds after demos
The Associated Press Published: Thursday, April 7, 2011 at 6:52 a.m.
Syria's president has granted thousands of Kurds living in a northeastern province Syrian citizenship in the latest overture by Bashar Assad to try and quell extraordinary anti-government protests.
State-run TV says that Assad issued a decree on Kurdish citizenship on Thursday.
It says he also sacked the governor of the central province of Homs that has witnessed clashes between anti-government protesters and security forces in the past three weeks.
Assad has struggled to subdue the protests that erupted in a southern city on March 18 and spread to other parts of the country.
Kurds are the largest ethnic minority in Syria but many of them have long been denied citizenship. Assad's move would fulfill their longtime demand.
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Email over dag 23 van de Syrische revolutie:
quote:Syrian Revolution News Round-up
Syria: Rise of the Obscurantists!
Encouraged by regional support, overt and tacit, and international confusion, Assad reaches out to some Islamists!
A relatively quiet day that started with protests in the diverse (Druzes, Christians, Sunnis, Iraqi refugees) Damascene suburb of Jeramana, that was quickly dispelled by security forces who went to organize a pro-Assad rally, and ended with clashes between Kurdish protesters and security officers in Wadee Al-Masharee Suburb that reportedly left 7 protesters dead, although no further details are available about the incident.
Meanwhile, eyewitnesses from Kafar Batna, the Damascene suburbs that witnessed major protests yesterday leading to a number of fatalities, which, we were told at the time, included a number of security officers, denied the validity of these claims and asserted that no security officer was killed by inhabitants of Kafar Batna and that all fatalities were from the ranks of the local population.
For their part, protest leaders in Deraa City refused to meet their newly appointed Governor, and continued their sit-in in Alomari Mosque, as inhabitants of nearby Jassem demonstrated against offers of reconciliation sent by state through intermediaries.
Before Bashar Al-Assad speech last week, a member of parliament, Youssef Abou Roumiyeh, addressed his colleagues, accused security officers of being responsible for the massacres in Deraa and called on Bashar to apologize to the people of Deraa, open an inquiry in the matter, and listen to their legitimate demand. A video of his speech has making the rounds pn the internet over the last few days, now Syrian authorities are said to be questioning Abou Roumiyeh to ascertain how the video, taking from the closed circuit TV in the parliament, has made its way to the Internet.
The Turkish FM support of Assads shadow reforms, which he expressed during his visit to Damascus earlier today, have generated much dismay among protest leaders who were hoping for more a sympathetic Turkish role. This latest development is adding much to the frustration of protest leaders who view regional and international responses as being below their expectations so far, especially considering the number of casualties involved, with more than 150 confirmed fatalities. Syrias protest leader are hoping for an emergency session of UNHRC to discuss the current situation in Syria, which can be leveraged by the international community to send a clear message to the Assads on the use of violence against unarmed protesters, especially at a time when the Assads have the audacity to lobby for Libyas position on the Council.
Lastly, Bashars decision to reverse his regimes decision on Niqab ban, to reinstate Niqab-wearing teachers to their former possession, and to endear himself to loyal Islamists by giving them more access to the state media (in fact, Sheikh Ramdan Al-Bouti asserted in his sermon last Tuesday, which aired on Syrian TV, that Assad promised him to launch a religious channel as well as an institute for training future Imams who wont deviate right or left), should serve to underscore the kind of reforms the Assads have in mind. By encouraging the most obscurantist elements to plan a more visible role in society, they hope to bolster their claim that their presence is needed to keep society in check. Problem with this policy is that protesters hate these elements as equally as they do the Assads.
Speech by Imam Mouath Khateeb in Douma It does not matter if a man is Sunni, Shiite, Alawite, Druze or Ismailite, an Arab or a Kurd, the value of the human being in the eyes of God lies in his piety. We are all one body. I say to you, the Alawites are much closer to me than many people. I know their villages, their impoverished villages where they live under oppression and toil hard. We speak for the freedom of every human being in this country, for every Sunni, every Alawite, every Ismailite, every Christian, every Arab and every member of the great Kurdish nation who bore Islam in her heart since ever We suffer for every fallen brother who was just practicing his God-given right Freedom is born with every one of us and not a gift bestowed on us by anybody. Freedom is a blessing from God, not something possessed by a ruler, a government or state the hearts of the Syrian people cry blood for every mother, for every martyrs wound for this great people who went out to practice their right to demonstrate, not carrying any weapons, while shouting Peacefully, Peacefully I am really sorry that the media is falling woefully behind. What can they come and see what peoples conditions are like, what their demand are I was at the Rifai Mosque and I saw how the electric batons were used against the youth just because they were asking for freedom. We want these people to be held accountable. This country is going through great turmoil, and we call on the state, where we hope some wise people can prevail; and put an end to this and open the gate to freedom gradually and according to a sound program all that we demand now is opening an investigation, holding every wrongdoer accountable, announcing timetable for reforms for which we eagerly await.. God bless you all.
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Schijnt dat 100 doden zijn gevallen in Dara.
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~Franois Fnelon
Syria: government troops in violent reaction to fresh protests
Supporters of Syria's president Bashir al-Asad opened fire during fresh protests on Friday killing at least 22 people, as tentative government concessions showed no signs of winning over the opposition.
Witnesses said the worst clashes began after demonstrators marched from three mosques in the southern city of Deraa after Friday prayers.
Security forces in plain clothes fired tear gas then rubber bullets and finally live ammunition on stone-throwing youths. At least 17 people were reported killed.
There were protests in cities across Syria sparking violent responses from the authorities. Three people were killed in the town of Harasta, two in Homs and, significantly, there was a report that water cannon had been used to put down a demonstration in Hama, the town where Mr Asad's father and predecessor, Hafez al-Asad, killed 20,000 people in putting down an Islamist uprising in 1982.
Mr Asad has promised constitutional reform and hinted at lifting emergency laws in place since his father came to power in 1963. On Thursday, he sought to conciliate the country's Kurdish minority by granting citizenship to a group of 150,000 who had no nationality papers.
He has also sacked hard-line governors, including that of Deraa, which has seen the most open displays of opposition and the most lethal suppression of protest. More than 70 people have died across the country in the last month.
Supporters of Syria's president Bashir al-Asad opened fire during fresh protests on Friday killing at least 22 people, as tentative government concessions showed no signs of winning over the opposition.
Witnesses said the worst clashes began after demonstrators marched from three mosques in the southern city of Deraa after Friday prayers.
Security forces in plain clothes fired tear gas then rubber bullets and finally live ammunition on stone-throwing youths. At least 17 people were reported killed.
There were protests in cities across Syria sparking violent responses from the authorities. Three people were killed in the town of Harasta, two in Homs and, significantly, there was a report that water cannon had been used to put down a demonstration in Hama, the town where Mr Asad's father and predecessor, Hafez al-Asad, killed 20,000 people in putting down an Islamist uprising in 1982.
Mr Asad has promised constitutional reform and hinted at lifting emergency laws in place since his father came to power in 1963. On Thursday, he sought to conciliate the country's Kurdish minority by granting citizenship to a group of 150,000 who had no nationality papers.
He has also sacked hard-line governors, including that of Deraa, which has seen the most open displays of opposition and the most lethal suppression of protest. More than 70 people have died across the country in the last month.
Hoeveel pech kan je hebbenquote:Duizenden bij herdenking in Alphen
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Ook had Eenhoorn aandacht voor de Syrische dichter die is omgekomen. Hij was zijn land uitgevlucht en is nu in Alphen omgekomen bij een zinloze schietpartij.
http://nos.nl/artikel/232(...)nking-in-alphen.html
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quote:Syria death toll rises as threats of force become more explicity
At least three killed and many more wounded in shootings in port city of Banias amid reports army was moving in
Human rights groups have warned over the rising death toll in Syria as security forces moved to quell a growing and sustained series of protests in cities across the country.
At least three people were shot dead and scores more wounded in shootings in the port city of Banias on Sunday amid reports that the army, already deployed in Deraa and Latakia, was being deployed.
Human rights groups named Ayman Soliman, Nizar Higazy and Muhammad al-Dayegh as those killed after Sunday prayers, while a further person was in a critical condition after being shot during earlier unrest the same day.
The fresh violence came as Syria's president, Bashar al-Assad, said in a statement that the country was "on course to comprehensive reform".
But protesters rejected the claims, pointing to an apparent warning by the government of further violence issued amid Friday's protests, the largest and most deadly yet.
A statement carried by the state news agency Sana said: "There is no more room for leniency or tolerance" in "preserving security of the country and protecting the general order".
This would be done "according to the law which specified the conditions for using weapons". Up until now the government has not admitted to using force, blaming the crackdown on outsiders.
As night fell on Sunday, Banias, which has a major oil refinery, was cordoned off; mourners took to the streets in Douma; and a sit-in was going on in Deraa.
The National Organisation for Human Rights said 37 people were killed across Syria on Friday, including 27 in Deraa, three in Homs, three in Harasta and one in Douma, bringing the total death toll to more than 200 since 18 March.
On Saturday there were reports of violent clashes between mourners and security forces. One witness in Deraa told the Guardian that security forces had been "shooting randomly" as mass funerals went on. It was not clear whether anyone died in those clashes, but activists say they are increasingly concerned that there will be a major crackdown this week.
There are also concerns over access to medical care being blocked amid interruptions to communications in parts of Banias, Latakia and Deraa.
"Pharmacists in Banias are being told by security to shut early and to report those who purchase goods to treat the injured," said Wissam Tarif, a local human rights monitor. "We are also worried about the government's intentions in Deraa."
A nationwide violent crackdown by security forces has been complicated in Banias and Latakia by reports of involvement by the shabiha, a violent group with links to the ruling Assad family. But the government has denied the group's involvement, blaming unrest on "spiteful individuals, outsiders and those who were compelled by known foreign parties".
On Saturday Barack Obama condemned Friday's crackdown as "abhorrent". But activists and protesters have grown increasingly frustrated by a muted international response which has seen regional countries rally to Assad's side.
A cycle of violence may now have taken hold which would escalate if the government refuses to meet protesters' demands, said Ayman Abdel Nour, a Syrian dissident living in Dubai. But he added: "We are still not seeing enough people from all governorates and segments of society coming out to allow them to tip the balance."
Assad has attempted to keep protest numbers down by issuing concessions to appease specific groups such as Kurds and conservative Muslims. But he has failed to put an end to emergency law or release political prisoners – two of the protesters' demands. Many people in Damascus, which has been calm, have expressed anxiety and even anger at the continued unrest as a threat to stability.
But there are small signs of growing unhappiness among formerly loyalists. An editor at the state-run newspaper Tishreen, Samira Masalma, was sacked after she criticised the shootings on al-Jazeera television.
There have also been reports of some army and security forces refusing to shoot at protesters.
The Guardian could not independently verify these reports.
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[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
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Verbazing verschijnt volop , als ik denk over de mensen die denken te weten waar ze het over hebben en eigenlijk gewoon slaaf van t systeem figuranten zijn
quote:Op maandag 11 april 2011 19:39 schreef Goldenkiss het volgende:
gwn bom erop gooie , weg ermee duurd weer 100jaar voordat je herbouwt zxijn
Terrorism is the poor mans war, war is the rich mans terrorism.
quote:12 April 2011 Last updated at 11:11 GMT
Syria: 'Dozens injured' in Baniyas as arrests continue
Dozens of people have been injured in clashes with security forces in the Syrian port of Baniyas, where 13 people were killed on Saturday, residents say.
One area is surrounded by army vehicles and gunfire is ongoing, they say.
Rights groups say hundreds of people have been arrested, including several students who took part in a rare rally at Damascus University on Monday.
About 200 people have died in weeks of protests against repression by President Bashar al-Assad's government.
The unrest is seen as the biggest challenge to the president, whose recent promise to introduce reforms has failed to stop street protests.
Damascus protest
For the first time on Monday, around 500 students staged a demonstration at Damascus University, calling for greater political freedom.
There were reports that some students were arrested, although this cannot be confirmed.
There was a rare show of defiance at Damascus University
It was a daring step by the students, as the university is tightly controlled by security personnel affiliated to the ruling Baath Party, says the BBC's Lina Sinjab in the capital.
Students loyal to President Assad staged a counter-demonstration at the campus, chanting pro-government slogans.
In the coastal city of Baniyas, meanwhile, another 22 people were arrested on Monday, as funerals were held for the four people who died when security forces opened fire on protesters over the weekend.
The government said nine soldiers died in the clashes and another 18 were injured in Saturday's clashes.
Parts of the city remain under lockdown on Tuesday, residents have told the BBC.
One witness says the village of Bayda is surrounded by army vehicles. He says dozens of people have been injured in clashes with security forces, and that soldiers are preventing ambulances from getting into the town.
Earlier on Tuesday, Human Rights Watch (HRW) accused Syrian security forces of preventing medics from reaching wounded protesters when clashes erupted at anti-government demonstrations last week.
The US-based Human Rights Watch said troops had blocked access to medical treatment last week in the southern town of Deraa, the centre of a wave of protests against President Assad, and Harasta, near Damascus.
"To deprive wounded people of critical and perhaps life-saving medical treatment is both inhumane and illegal," said Sarah Leah Whitson, HRW's Middle East director.
It said a total of 28 people were killed on Friday when security forces fired on protesters in Deraa, Harasta and Douma, a suburb of Damascus.
"Syria's leaders talk about political reform, but they meet their people's legitimate demands for reform with bullets," said Ms Whitson.
Mass arrests
Meanwhile, hundreds of arrests were taking place across the country, according to human rights groups.
Fayez Sara, 61, a well known Syrian writer and journalist, was arrested on Monday, said Abdul-Karim Rihawi of the Syrian Human Rights League.
Mr Sara was the third opposition figure arrested since Sunday, he added. Others rounded up by security forces include bloggers, activists and young opposition supporters.
Human Rights Watch says there are reports of severe beatings and torture taking place inside prisons.
About 200 people in Syria have been killed in mass demonstrations, which first erupted in March in the southern city of Deraa.
The protests then spread across Syria despite Mr Assad's attempts to defuse tensions by offering "to study" whether to end to the decades-old emergency law and to appease minority Kurds by offering them citizenship.
Demonstrators are calling for greater political rights, personal freedoms, and an end to Assad's rule.
hoezo adhd ?
Wie gaat dat doen dan? Onze overheid? Die haat je toch zo? (als ik je ondertitel zo lees)quote:
gwn bom erop gooie , weg ermee duurd weer 100jaar voordat je herbouwt zxijn
Opgeblazen gevoel of winderigheid? Zo opgelost met Rennie!
quote:http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)oldiers-shot-protest
Witnesses claim soldiers who disobeyed orders in Banias were shot by security services as crackdown on protests intensifies
Syrian soldiers have been shot by security forces after refusing to fire on protesters, witnesses said, as a crackdown on anti-government demonstrations intensified.
Witnesses told al-Jazeera and the BBC that some soldiers had refused to shoot after the army moved into Banias in the wake of intense protests on Friday.
Human rights monitors named Mourad Hejjo, a conscript from Madaya village, as one of those shot by security snipers. "His family and town are saying he refused to shoot at his people," said Wassim Tarif, a local human rights monitor.
Footage on YouTube shows an injured soldier saying he was shot in the back by security forces, while another video shows the funeral of Muhammad Awad Qunbar, who sources said was killed for refusing to fire on protesters. Signs of defections will be worrying to Syria's regime. State media reported a different version of events, claiming nine soldiers had been killed in an ambush by an armed group in Banias.
Activists said not all soldiers reported dead or injured were shot after refusing to fire. "We are investigating reports that some people have personal weapons and used them in self-defence," said Tarif.
The reports came as a leading Syrian opposition figure said pro-government gunmen had attacked two villages close to Banias, 25 miles south of Latakia, which has become the latest focus of violence since protests on Friday. Haitham al-Maleh told AP attackers were using automatic rifles in Bayda and Beit Jnad.
Human rights organisations said at least five protesters in Banias had been killed since Sunday including one on Tuesday. In Bayda witnesses reported that security thugs had beaten up men in the central square, and rights groups said hundreds of people had been arrested, including students who took part in an unprecedented rally at Damascus University on Monday.
Violence in the port cities of Banias and Latakia has become increasingly messy as locals report the involvement of pro-government thugs and private militias. One witness, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said "shabiha" (pro-government thugs) had attacked in cars decorated with photos of the president, Bashar al-Assad, on Sunday. Residents of Banias said there was a shortage of bread, and electricity and communications were intermittent.
Syria's leading pro-democracy group, the Damascus Declaration, urged the Arab League to impose sanctions on the regime and said the death toll from more than three weeks of unrest had topped 200.
Tens of thousands of people have taken to the streets to protest against Assad's authoritarian rule. Assad blames the violence on armed gangs and has vowed to crush unrest. He has made a series of overtures to appease anger, including sacking officials and granting Syrian nationality to thousands of Kurds, a long-ostracised minority. But the gestures have failed to satisfy protesters, who demand political freedoms and an end to the decades-old emergency laws that allow the regime to arrest people without charge.
On Tuesday Human Rights Watch condemned security forces for barring access to medical care. UK citizens were warned against "all but essential" travel to Syria and all travel to Banias, where residents are now holding a three-day strike.
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De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
http://www.worldtribune.c(...)_syria0417_04_11.asp
Iran has deployed 10,000 elite troops in Syria to protect the regime of President Bashar Assad and has been in effective control of the country for the past week, the opposition said.
"In essence, the IRGC now occupies Syria and has become its de facto ruler," RPS spokesman Farid Ghadry said. "Syria has become the 32nd province of Iran."
Iran has deployed 10,000 elite troops in Syria to protect the regime of President Bashar Assad and has been in effective control of the country for the past week, the opposition said.
"In essence, the IRGC now occupies Syria and has become its de facto ruler," RPS spokesman Farid Ghadry said. "Syria has become the 32nd province of Iran."
Jij bent echt stoerrrr, mag ik je aanraken?quote:
gwn bom erop gooie , weg ermee duurd weer 100jaar voordat je herbouwt zxijn
jwz
quote:
http://www.worldtribune.c(...)_syria0417_04_11.asp
Iran has deployed 10,000 elite troops in Syria to protect the regime of President Bashar Assad and has been in effective control of the country for the past week, the opposition said.
"In essence, the IRGC now occupies Syria and has become its de facto ruler," RPS spokesman Farid Ghadry said. "Syria has become the 32nd province of Iran."
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Iran ziet zijn kans schoon.quote:Iran aiding Syria crackdown on protests: report
WASHINGTON, Apr 14, 2011 (AFP) - Iran is aiding Syria in its suppression of pro-democracy demonstrators by providing equipment to put down protests and monitor opposition groups, the Wall Street Journal said Thursday, citing US officials.
Tehran has already begun providing crowd control equipment to Syrian authorities, and more deliveries are expected, said unnamed officials in President Barack Obama's administration, reported the Journal.
Based on intercepted communications among Iranian officials, officials said the assessment also showed Tehran is seeking to aid Shiite groups in Bahrain and Yemen and destabilize US allies in those countries, the Journal said.
"We believe that Iran is materially assisting the Syrian government in its efforts to suppress their own people," officials said, adding that Tehran is sharing "lessons learned" from the 2009 post-election crackdown on demonstrations that sought the ouster of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Iranian authorities are also providing Damascus technical assistance to monitor online communication from opposition groups to organize protests, US defense officials told the Journal.
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
Nou, poeh poeh, een van de landen waar gn Amerikaans "crowd control equipment" wordt gebruikt. Iran ziet zijn kans schoon, yeah right. Laten we nou toch alsjeblieft niet vallen in dat simplistische Iran-boeman-gekleuter.
Iran vergroot haar invloed in de regio. Dat is het enige relevante punt.quote:
Nou, poeh poeh, een van de landen waar gn Amerikaans "crowd control equipment" wordt gebruikt. Iran ziet zijn kans schoon, yeah right. Laten we nou toch alsjeblieft niet vallen in dat simplistische Iran-boeman-gekleuter.
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
Blijkt dat ook nog ergens uit? Iran dat wat wapenleveranties doet aan buurland -haast-, nou nou. Is dat die vergrotende invloed?quote:
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Iran vergroot haar invloed in de regio.
Dit is uiteraard slechts n voorbeeld, en ja: wapentuig leveren is invloed. Waarom denk je dat Amerika de grootste wapenhandelaar ter wereld is? Geld verdienen en conflicten sturen. Win-win.quote:
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Blijkt dat ook nog ergens uit? Iran dat wat wapenleveranties doet aan buurland -haast-, nou nou. Is dat die vergrotende invloed?
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
We moeten niet panisch doen over Iran, een derdewereldland dat nauwelijks z'n eigen grenzen onder controle kan houden.quote:
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Dit is uiteraard slechts n voorbeeld, en ja: wapentuig leveren is invloed. Waarom denk je dat Amerika de grootste wapenhandelaar ter wereld is? Geld verdienen en conflicten sturen. Win-win.
Panisch zeker niet, maar we moeten ook niet doen alsof het regime van Iran het slachtoffer is.quote:
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We moeten niet panisch doen over Iran, een derdewereldland dat nauwelijks z'n eigen grenzen onder controle kan houden.
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
Net zomin als het regime van Soedan of China of Zweden. En ongeveer even relevant.quote:
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Panisch zeker niet, maar we moeten ook niet doen alsof het regime van Iran het slachtoffer is.
Zoals elke keer op vrijdag zijn er weer een hoop demonstraties gaande. Ik heb er een slecht gevoel over.. Ze zullen wederom met harde hand worden aangepakt en tot niets leiden.
Source: The Guardian
Katherine Marsh (a pseudonym) writes with more from Syria:
Activists and witnesses say thousands are heading from the suburb of Douma, which witnessed huge protests over the last two Fridays, into central Damascus, heading for Abasiyeen Square. They say they are picking up protesters from areas along the way. If the protesters succeed in making it into the square - a central point in Damascus - this will change the game for Syria's president Bashar al-Assad. So far, large-scale protests have not hit Damascus or the second city of Aleppo, in the north.
While protests in Deraa and Banias seem to have been peaceful so far today, eyewitnesses are reporting a violent crackdown by security forces following a protest in Barzeh, an area of Damascus which has seen small-scale unrest in previous weeks. Many are reported injured in the area, whether from beatings or live ammunition is yet unclear; gunmen have been reported on the streets
Katherine Marsh (a pseudonym) writes with more from Syria:
Activists and witnesses say thousands are heading from the suburb of Douma, which witnessed huge protests over the last two Fridays, into central Damascus, heading for Abasiyeen Square. They say they are picking up protesters from areas along the way. If the protesters succeed in making it into the square - a central point in Damascus - this will change the game for Syria's president Bashar al-Assad. So far, large-scale protests have not hit Damascus or the second city of Aleppo, in the north.
While protests in Deraa and Banias seem to have been peaceful so far today, eyewitnesses are reporting a violent crackdown by security forces following a protest in Barzeh, an area of Damascus which has seen small-scale unrest in previous weeks. Many are reported injured in the area, whether from beatings or live ammunition is yet unclear; gunmen have been reported on the streets
Video Of Syria Protesters 'Beaten' On Street
Footage has emerged apparently showing tied-up anti-government protesters in Syria being kicked and beaten by armed men on a street. (zie link hieronder)
http://news.sky.com/skyne(...)testers_By_Armed_Men
Demonstranten lopen richting Abbasid Plein
Demonstratie Jassem
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Footage has emerged apparently showing tied-up anti-government protesters in Syria being kicked and beaten by armed men on a street. (zie link hieronder)
http://news.sky.com/skyne(...)testers_By_Armed_Men
Demonstranten lopen richting Abbasid Plein
Demonstratie Jassem
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Is in Syrie opgepakt door de geheime dienst omdat hij op dit forum heeft gezeten.quote:
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
Prachtige video's die twee, ontzettend veel respect 
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
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Prachtige video's die twee, ontzettend veel respect
Politie schiet met scherp op demonstranten, Latakia, Syrie
Slachtoffer Latakia
Gearresteerde demonstranten geschopt en geslagen door veiligheidstroepen
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Slachtoffer Latakia
Gearresteerde demonstranten geschopt en geslagen door veiligheidstroepen
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Ziet er heftig uit. Neemt grote vormen aan zeg!
Terrorism is the poor mans war, war is the rich mans terrorism.
Niet gezien. Ik ben bang dat hij in een Syrische cel zit en gemarteld wordt door zijn idool.quote:
Ik maak mij zorgen om CLF. Is ie nog online gekomen sinds zijn bezoek aan Syri?
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[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
quote:Syria's silent majority will determine next step as protests grow
Syria's protest movement is far from uniform, and divisions are becoming apparent as it gathers momentum
It was an episode that at any other time in Syria's history might have gone unnoticed. A month ago, a group of Syrian children, aged between 10 and 13, daubed anti-regime graffiti on a wall in a dusty town near the Jordan border. The security forces made some arrests. Relatives of the children protested. They were insulted and beaten.
Syrians have become used to this kind of brutality during the 11-year rule of Bashar al-Assad. But amid the revolt sweeping the Arab world, the incident quickly turned explosive. "It was unintentional," said Omar, 29, who identified himself as a family friend of the children in the original protest. "They saw on television Egypt and Tunisia and copied it."
In the month since then, protests have swirled around Syria, raising questions about the durability of the Assad regime. A rally in Deraa ended with six people being killed by security forces. The movement spread to other areas – Homs, the Damascus suburb Douma, Aleppo and Latakia in the north, Banias on the coast. Every time the security services tried to quash the protests, it merely provoked more unrest. The number of protests has increased ever since, as has the death toll, which is now estimated at more than 200.
Assad has tried waving threadbare olive branches: on Thursday he offered a prisoner release and appointed a new cabinet. But on Friday security forces used teargas to prevent thousands of protesters from marching towards Damascus's main Abbasside Square, while thousands once again took to the streets in a number of towns and cities from Deraa to Banias.
"We have always felt repression and lack of dignity but felt scared to do anything. Deraa changed that," said Mohammed, a 22-year-old student from the Damascus suburb of Madamiya where early on protests spilled out of mosques in solidarity with the "martyrs" of Deraa.
So who are the forces ranged against the Syrian president and can they follow the example of Tunisia and Egypt in ridding the region of another despot?
As in Egypt and Tunisia, latent anger has been simmering for years in Syria over a lack of jobs, corruption and nepotism and political repression at the hands of unaccountable security services.
Over the past three years prices have shot up, adding to economic woes, while a burgeoning youth population connected to the world through television and the internet has seen life outside. "The killing of people caused something to snap," said Mohammed. "As soon as I chanted for freedom and Deraa I felt like a human being for the first time in my life."
People like Mohammed form the majority of the protest movement – apolitical, informed, frustrated, mostly between 20 and 40 and largely male. There is much to complain about: a poor education system that fails to equip them for the job market, the nepotism and cronyism that disqualifies them from many opportunities, an inability to marry because they cannot afford a house.
Women have been less visible, though this week they turned out in their hundreds to call for the release of men rounded up in Beida. "We no longer trust the president," said one of the women, who did not want to be named. "We lack freedoms and corruption is everywhere, and the youths have demonstrated to address these issues peacefully. They [the security forces] faced them with fire."
She pointed out that her brother was summoned by the Syrian intelligence 30 years ago and has never returned home. "We do not know if he's dead or alive," she said.
This cohort has been bolstered by a small but budding group of lawyers, artists and aid workers engaged in social activism; teaching Iraqi refugees or taking food to victims of Syria's drought. "I have long been trying to organise protests," said one activist and former NGO worker in Damascus, who is subject to a travel ban, one of the Assad regime's tools of repression. "But until now people have been too scared – Egypt, Tunisia and Libya gave us inspiration whilst the killings caused anger to outweigh fear."
Activists like him have helped to organise further protests through a series of secret chatrooms online, and others such as Razan Zeitouneh and Wissam Tarif, two outspoken human rights activists who unusually go by their real names, seek to document the violence and garner media attention. In the last fortnight, members of the Damascus Declaration, a grouping of liberal and Islamist activists, have thrown their weight behind the protesters.
The movement is far from uniform, and divisions are becoming apparent as it grows. Calls for toppling Assad and defacing billboards of him are on the rise, but some protesters have specific demands. In Douma, some have called for the release of political prisoners and an end to shootings, while Mohammed says he wants "freedom" but is not yet sure what that means – "If good reforms are made, that may be enough."
And it would be wrong to say the movement is rampant or widespread. It may count many tens of thousands of supporters. But Syria is a country of more than 20 million people. And there may be as many Assad loyalists as there are protesters, people who through genuine admiration or fear of the alternative support the president.
Despite protesters from the Sunni majority being joined by some Kurds, Christians and reportedly Alawites from Assad's minority sect, they and many other Sunnis fear the rise of conservative Islam if Syria's secular state were to fall. Others look to Iraq and Lebanon as a forewarning. "We may not agree with everything, but the president has kept it safe for us," said one Christian in Damascus's Old City. A young female Muslim added: "He is young and understands us and is struggling against a regime he unintentionally inherited from his father."
Amid a standoff between protesters and the government, what comes next will depend on the large silent majority, including Sunni businessmen and religious figures. Almost all have the same aspirations to a life with dignity and without repression and for a chance to have more control over their lives and their country.
"I changed my mind after the speech he [Assad] gave," said Abdullah, a 30-year-old office worker who described himself as previously neutral. "I am thinking of joining the protest because I don't think he will – or even can – make changes." Kurds turned out to rally last week despite Assad's move to grant citizenship to tens of thousands of stateless Kurds.
But others say protesting is not the way. "Protests have not been about people changing their opinions but breaking the shackles stopping them from expressing them," said Ahmed, a 20-year-old from the impoverished eastern region. "I feel the same but I want to study and change things peacefully."
Assad can fall back on a regime apparatus that, despite occasional reports of reluctance by army conscripts to open fire on protesters, is loyal. The family has populated the upper echelons of the military and intelligence with Alawites who fear persecution if a Sunni majority takes hold.
There are also Sunni loyalists in the regime who through a system of carefully doled out benefits are discouraged from leaving Assad's side. Each time they take to the streets, Syria's protesters know they have a hard battle ahead with an unpredictable end.
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[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
quote:Syria: 'Don't kill more than 20 protesters in one day'
March 23 Syrian intelligence document details strategy to counter rebel sentiment, create links between rebels, "Zionist regime."
A document allegedly drafted by top Syrian intelligence officers, which details strict guidelines for carrying out rebel assassinations, infiltrating anti-regime organizations and distributing propaganda sound bites and images, has been published on Facebook.
Among the instructions handed down to security forces was an order to limit the number of protesters killed in one day to 20 people. The limited killing, the document says, was necessary in order to control international anger about the Assad regime's use of force against civilians, Israel Radio reported.
The document calls for anti-rebel forces to create links between government protesters and the US and Israel. In a translated version published in an msnbc.com report on Wednesday, a media campaign connecting "the anti-regime demonstrations and protests to figures hated by the Syrian populace such as the usual Saudi and Lebanese figures, and connecting the lot of them to Zionism and to America" is laid out.
Syrian President Bashar Assad is referred to as "our highest symbol" in the text.
The document is divided into two sections: A "detailed plan" and a breakdown of a potential revolutions "political economic factor."
The "detailed plan" involves "an intensive media campaign accusing the protesters and the enemies of being agents of Saudi Arabia, Israel and America," banning journalists from protest sites, and planting plain-clothes security and "eyewitnesses" in political hot spots to deliver rehearsed quotations and feedback.
Details of "political economic factor" include staged marches in support of Assad, lowering the prices of fuel and food in order to bolster public support, and agreeing to "some of the Kurdish demands."
The veracity of the document could not be verified by US officials, who were in possession of the document. The Syrian embassy refused to comment.
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[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
Wat een rust hier, rustiger dan in Damascus in ieder geval.
Demonstranten lijken het aanbod van Assad niet te accepteren en gaan wederom de straat op, wat nu?
Demonstranten lijken het aanbod van Assad niet te accepteren en gaan wederom de straat op, wat nu?
laatste bezoek: 14 dagen, 19 uur geleden.quote:Op vrijdag 15 april 2011 19:45 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:
Ik maak mij zorgen om CLF. Is ie nog online gekomen sinds zijn bezoek aan Syri?
lol, of hij helpt het regime met het onderdrukken van de demonstranten en is door de demonstranten het ziekenhuis ingeslagenquote:
Niet gezien. Ik ben bang dat hij in een Syrische cel zit en gemarteld wordt door zijn idool.
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http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/(...)testen-in-stad-homs/quote:Onrust in Syri houdt aan acht doden bij protesten in stad Homs
Toezeggingen van de Syrische president Bashar al-Assad over het opheffen van de noodtoestand in het land hebben niet tot het gewenste einde aan de al weken durende demonstraties tegen het regime geleid.
Bij het neerslaan van protesten door ordetroepen in de stad Homs vielen volgens een oppositiewoordvoerder vannacht acht doden. Demonstranten gingen daar volgens persbureau Reuters massaal de straat op nadat een bleek dat n van hen was komen te overlijden terwijl hij in bewaring zat. Volgens de woordvoerder, die op voorwaarde van anonimiteit met Reuters sprak, was de man in goede gezondheid toen hij opgepakt werd voor het deelnemen aan een demonstratie. En uu is hij als lijk de cel uitgekomen. Het is bekend dat de ordetroepen met harde hand optreden tegen demonstranten, maar dit is onaanvaardbaar.
Op veel plaatsen tienduizenden mensen de straat op
Ook gisteren, de dag dat het land 65 jaar onafhankelijkheid vierde, gingen in veel plaatsen in het land tienduizenden mensen de straat op. In de stad Talbiseh vielen volgens getuigen zeker vier doden toen de politie tijdens een begrafenis het vuur opende op betogers. Volgens het staatspersbureau Sana was er een politieman gedood en raakten elf anderen gewond. Ook uit andere steden, waaronder Aleppo, Deraa, Suwaida en Lattakia, kwamen berichten over nieuwe betogingen.
De demonstranten willen onder meer een einde aan de verstikkende greep van de veiligheidsdiensten op het alledaagse leven en de vrijlating van politieke gevangenen die vaak al jaren zonder proces vastzitten. Sommigen roepen ook openlijk om een eind aan het bewind van Assad, die de macht ruim tien jaar geleden van zijn vader erfde. Ook vrijdag na het traditionele vrijdagsgebed demonstreerden tienduizenden in het hele land tegen de regering.
In de afgelopen vier weken zijn er volgens mensenrechtenorganisaties al zeker 200 mensen om het leven gekomen bij betogingen, die veelal met geweld door de autoriteiten werden beindigd.
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Assad gaat down. Vraag me af hoe het allemaal zal gaan, gezien de alliantie tussen Syrie, Hezbollah en Iran.
Vraag me af hoe het allemaal zal gaan, gezien de alliantie tussen Syrie, Hezbollah en Iran.
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~Franois Fnelon
Pssst laten we nou niet meer over hem hebben heh. Zijn we eindelijk van dat zwart-wit achtige propaganda af ;-)quote:
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laatste bezoek: 14 dagen, 19 uur geleden.
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lol, of hij helpt het regime met het onderdrukken van de demonstranten en is door de demonstranten het ziekenhuis ingeslagen
Laat me met rust!
Ongeveer vergelijkbaar met Irak.quote:
Assad gaat down.
Syrische stad Homs vandaag, twitter wordt gesproken van enkele tienduizenden. Begrafenis:
Zeer recente video van Homs:
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Zeer recente video van Homs:
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Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
Al Jazeera Live blog vandaag:
6:05pm
Our correspondent Cal Perry says the government seems to slowly be losing control of many cities and towns outside Damascus. This footage, filmed in the Damascus suburb of Douma yesterday, seems to back up this point: protesters destroy all symbols of the government, tearing down pictures of President Bashar al-Assad and his father.
7:03pm
Protests seem to be spreading. Thousands rallying in Homs and our reporter Cal Perry in Damascus said he was just hearing news of a peaceful protest 10km west of the capital. There are also reports of a large demonstration by Kurds in Ain al-Arab in the north.
6:05pm
Our correspondent Cal Perry says the government seems to slowly be losing control of many cities and towns outside Damascus. This footage, filmed in the Damascus suburb of Douma yesterday, seems to back up this point: protesters destroy all symbols of the government, tearing down pictures of President Bashar al-Assad and his father.
7:03pm
Protests seem to be spreading. Thousands rallying in Homs and our reporter Cal Perry in Damascus said he was just hearing news of a peaceful protest 10km west of the capital. There are also reports of a large demonstration by Kurds in Ain al-Arab in the north.
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
Unrest Spreads Further
BEIRUT, Apr 18, 2011 (IPS) - Despite scarce official news reports emerging from Syria, information leaking out from activists on the ground describe the situation as deteriorating. While the government remains vague about events unfolding in the country, Friday prayers continue to ignite dissent that seems to be spreading to all social classes.
"People are very angry, especially since men arrested in the city of Banyas were released and accounts of torture circulated among residents," says one activist, who asked to remain anonymous for security reasons.
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=55293
BEIRUT, Apr 18, 2011 (IPS) - Despite scarce official news reports emerging from Syria, information leaking out from activists on the ground describe the situation as deteriorating. While the government remains vague about events unfolding in the country, Friday prayers continue to ignite dissent that seems to be spreading to all social classes.
"People are very angry, especially since men arrested in the city of Banyas were released and accounts of torture circulated among residents," says one activist, who asked to remain anonymous for security reasons.
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=55293
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
Ja, gaat er heftig aan toe. Duidelijk lijkt me in ieder geval dat ze het net zo proberen als in Egypte aanvankelijk: de mannen-in-burger. Tegelijkertijd heb ik ook gelezen dat tegenstanders van het regime met name in het westen wapens en geld hebben uitgedeeld.
Ja, zeker nu dit net naar buiten komt. Ook op Al Arabiyya net:
7:54pm
Rami, a protester in the square, just told Al Jazeera that a a sheikh has told the demonstrators that Maher al-Assad, the president's brother, said he would send the security forces to disperse protesters.
Rami says he can see a number of armed "hooligans" who are gathered around the demo.
He is saying all the protesters are unarmed civilians -about 50,000 - and they will continue protesting and camping out in the suqare until the regime is overthrown.
7:54pm
Rami, a protester in the square, just told Al Jazeera that a a sheikh has told the demonstrators that Maher al-Assad, the president's brother, said he would send the security forces to disperse protesters.
Rami says he can see a number of armed "hooligans" who are gathered around the demo.
He is saying all the protesters are unarmed civilians -about 50,000 - and they will continue protesting and camping out in the suqare until the regime is overthrown.
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
Spam Bots Flooding Twitter to Drown Info About #Syria Protests
http://advocacy.globalvoi(...)bout-syria-protests/
http://advocacy.globalvoi(...)bout-syria-protests/
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
50.000 demonstranten? Dat is geen kattepiesquote:
Ja, zeker nu dit net naar buiten komt. Ook op Al Arabiyya net:
7:54pm
Rami, a protester in the square, just told Al Jazeera that a a sheikh has told the demonstrators that Maher al-Assad, the president's brother, said he would send the security forces to disperse protesters.
Rami says he can see a number of armed "hooligans" who are gathered around the demo.
He is saying all the protesters are unarmed civilians -about 50,000 - and they will continue protesting and camping out in the suqare until the regime is overthrown.
Op welk plein in welke stad is dat?
In Homs, op het vrijheidsplein.
Deze Twitter heel veel berichten, ook vandaaruit lijkt het en echt laatste ontwikkelingen maar veelal in het Arabisch. Ordetroepen zijn er al omheen en hebben ze ingesloten.
http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Syria
Vandaag, namiddag:
Deze Twitter heel veel berichten, ook vandaaruit lijkt het en echt laatste ontwikkelingen maar veelal in het Arabisch. Ordetroepen zijn er al omheen en hebben ze ingesloten.
http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Syria
Vandaag, namiddag:
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
eternalitysmile RT @syrianfront: Thousands of Protesters in Latakia now. pls dont forget People in Latakia are also in the streets. #Syria #latakia
less than 20 seconds ago via web
less than 20 seconds ago via twitterfeed
rev11info_en RT @democraticiran: NYT/ people are in charge in the city center now More than 10,000 people occupied a central square in Homs #Syria
ndabutterfly RT @khalidkhan787: #Homs New Clock Square now becoming Tahrir Square, largest ever sit -in of #Syria being witnessed right now
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
quote:Cables reveal covert US support for Syria's opposition
Newly released WikiLeaks cables reveal that the US State Department has been secretly financing Syrian opposition groups and other opposition projects for at least five years, The Washington Post reports.
That aid continued going into the hands of the Syrian government opposition even after the US began its reengagement policy with Syria under President Barack Obama in 2009, the Post reports. In January, the US posted its first ambassador to the country since the Bush administration withdrew the US ambassador in 2005 over concerns about Syria's involvement in the assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri.
The Obama administration has been trying to draw Syria away from its key ally Iran and closer to the US and its regional allies. The effort seems to have been largely unsuccessful so far, and antigovernment protests sweeping the country have complicated the issue. The US is struggling to determine how to support Syria's democratic protesters while not alienating the Assad government, which has cracked down brutally on demonstrations and blamed them on "foreign saboteurs," as The Christian Science Monitor reported last week.
That is a dilemma that concerned the US government even before the protests began. The author of an April 2009 cable expressed concern that some of the projects being funded by the US, if discovered by the Syrian government, would be perceived as "an attempt to undermine the Asad [sic] regime, as opposed to encouraging behavior reform."
The Post reported that much of the money as much as $6 million since 2006 has been funneled through a group of Syrian exiles in London, known as the Movement for Justice and Development. The group is connected to a London-based satellite television station that is broadcast in Syria, known as Barada TV, which has recently expanded its coverage to include the mass protests.
Several other civil society initiatives in Syria received secret US funding, but by 2009, US officials were concerned that the Syrian government had discovered the US funding. The Post was unable to confirm whether programs are still being funded, but cables indicate the funding was planned at least through September 2010.
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The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
Ik las/hoorde het het op AJE, de opstand is dus niet zo spontaan. 
En weer zit de US diep in de shit met deze leaks
En weer zit de US diep in de shit met deze leaks
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