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SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
Al Arabiya: #Libya cancels sale of 2 million barrels of oil to China & orders the Chinese ship to leave the port
11 minutes ago
SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
Al Arabiya: Chinese oil firm announces it won't buy Libyan oil in the next few months & will buy Algerian oil instead. #Libya
9 minutes ago
SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
Al Arabiya: #Libya cancels sale of 2 million barrels of oil to China & orders the Chinese ship to leave the port
11 minutes ago
SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
Al Arabiya: Chinese oil firm announces it won't buy Libyan oil in the next few months & will buy Algerian oil instead. #Libya
9 minutes ago
Russia announces ban on arms sales to Libya
MOSCOW, March 10 (Reuters) - Russia will ban all weapons sales to Libya, the Kremlin said in a statement on Thursday, effectively suspending its arms contracts with the government of Muammar Gaddafi.
MOSCOW, March 10 (Reuters) - Russia will ban all weapons sales to Libya, the Kremlin said in a statement on Thursday, effectively suspending its arms contracts with the government of Muammar Gaddafi.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Libya crisis: Rebellion or civil war?
Colonel Muammar Gaddafi remains resolutely in power - at least in parts of the country - and appears to be making gains against rebel forces. The BBC's Caroline Hawley asks if the conflict in Libya is looking increasingly like a civil war rather than a rebellion.
Twenty-eight days after Mohamed Bouazizi set fire to himself and sparked the Tunisian uprising, President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali had fled into exile in Saudi Arabia.
It took just 18 days of street protests to force Hosni Mubarak to step down and fly to the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh.
The rebels, who have now tasted freedom, are equally determined - if badly outgunned.
"I think this will be a long drawn-out struggle," says Professor George Joffe, an expert on Libya at the Centre of International Studies in Cambridge. "And it's not going to be nice."
Ancient fault line
For the moment, Libya is a divided land. And a fault line runs through the country, between the western half of Libya, largely controlled by Col Gaddafi, and the eastern region that first revolted against him last month.
The front line in the east has shifted up and down the coastal road that runs the width of a vast oil-rich country. But it broadly fits a fault line that has long roots in Libyan history.
The flag that now flies in the east - and areas of the west under opposition control - is that of the monarchy. King Idris, who was overthrown by Col Gaddafi in 1969, hailed from the eastern region of Cyrenaica. In Roman times, Libya was divided into Cyrenaica in the east and Tripolitania in the west, as well as Fezzan in the south.
Cyrenaica's originally nomadic people have a history of rebellion. And Col Gaddafi's policies fed their resentment.
"Gaddafi managed to antagonise the people of Cyrenaica by neglecting the area," says Joffe.
But, in the long term, Professor Joffe doubts that Libya will remain divided. "Everyone now feels Libyan," he says. "Libyans don't want a divided country and Gaddafi won't tolerate it. I suspect that in the end, there'll be an internal coup against him."
'No good options'
A rebel fighter weeps for his brother near Ras Lanuf, 8 March A rebel fighter weeps for his brother who was injured in fighting near Ras Lanuf
For now, Col Gaddafi is fighting back hard against the rebels. But Richard Dowden, author and director of the Royal African Society, does not believe the conflict in Libya will fit the pattern of other African civil wars.
"The idea of a protracted civil war like you have in Congo seems unlikely because of the country's terrain," he says.
"Libya is urban areas and desert - there's nowhere to hide. So it's a simple equation. How much firepower do you have?"
Or how much are you prepared to use? So far, Col Gaddafi has not deployed all his military strength. But the assault on Zawiya, west of Tripoli, marks a significant escalation in his fightback.
In the east, he will also want to ensure that the oil port of Ras Lanuf is firmly under government control.
"Oil is key because it generates all the income that Libya gets," says Prof Joffe.
"Ras Lanuf is one of the main loading points so it controls who gets the oil revenue. But I think the regime has enough resources to carry on for quite a few months."
As the international community wrestles with how to respond, Prof Joffe warns that "there are no good options" for intervention.
Colonel Muammar Gaddafi remains resolutely in power - at least in parts of the country - and appears to be making gains against rebel forces. The BBC's Caroline Hawley asks if the conflict in Libya is looking increasingly like a civil war rather than a rebellion.
Twenty-eight days after Mohamed Bouazizi set fire to himself and sparked the Tunisian uprising, President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali had fled into exile in Saudi Arabia.
It took just 18 days of street protests to force Hosni Mubarak to step down and fly to the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh.
The rebels, who have now tasted freedom, are equally determined - if badly outgunned.
"I think this will be a long drawn-out struggle," says Professor George Joffe, an expert on Libya at the Centre of International Studies in Cambridge. "And it's not going to be nice."
Ancient fault line
For the moment, Libya is a divided land. And a fault line runs through the country, between the western half of Libya, largely controlled by Col Gaddafi, and the eastern region that first revolted against him last month.
The front line in the east has shifted up and down the coastal road that runs the width of a vast oil-rich country. But it broadly fits a fault line that has long roots in Libyan history.
The flag that now flies in the east - and areas of the west under opposition control - is that of the monarchy. King Idris, who was overthrown by Col Gaddafi in 1969, hailed from the eastern region of Cyrenaica. In Roman times, Libya was divided into Cyrenaica in the east and Tripolitania in the west, as well as Fezzan in the south.
Cyrenaica's originally nomadic people have a history of rebellion. And Col Gaddafi's policies fed their resentment.
"Gaddafi managed to antagonise the people of Cyrenaica by neglecting the area," says Joffe.
But, in the long term, Professor Joffe doubts that Libya will remain divided. "Everyone now feels Libyan," he says. "Libyans don't want a divided country and Gaddafi won't tolerate it. I suspect that in the end, there'll be an internal coup against him."
'No good options'
A rebel fighter weeps for his brother near Ras Lanuf, 8 March A rebel fighter weeps for his brother who was injured in fighting near Ras Lanuf
For now, Col Gaddafi is fighting back hard against the rebels. But Richard Dowden, author and director of the Royal African Society, does not believe the conflict in Libya will fit the pattern of other African civil wars.
"The idea of a protracted civil war like you have in Congo seems unlikely because of the country's terrain," he says.
"Libya is urban areas and desert - there's nowhere to hide. So it's a simple equation. How much firepower do you have?"
Or how much are you prepared to use? So far, Col Gaddafi has not deployed all his military strength. But the assault on Zawiya, west of Tripoli, marks a significant escalation in his fightback.
In the east, he will also want to ensure that the oil port of Ras Lanuf is firmly under government control.
"Oil is key because it generates all the income that Libya gets," says Prof Joffe.
"Ras Lanuf is one of the main loading points so it controls who gets the oil revenue. But I think the regime has enough resources to carry on for quite a few months."
As the international community wrestles with how to respond, Prof Joffe warns that "there are no good options" for intervention.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
De jongen achter de groene vlag ziet er uit alsof hij ook geschoten word als hij niet meewerktquote:
Wat gewoon is voor de spin, is chaos voor de vlieg.
Als de cashflow opdroogt (wat dreigt te gebeuren op den duur omdat er bijna geen olie-inkomsten meer zijn, en de rest van de wereld al heel veel geld bevroren heeft van hem) dan droogt ook de steun op voor hem. De vraag is voor hoeveel hij nog aan reserves heeft liggen. Echt de meeste lui die voor hem vechten zijn alleen maar royaal aan zijn bankrekening.
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Je bedoelt loyaalquote:Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 09:05 schreef Eyjafjallajoekull het volgende:
Als de cashflow opdroogt (wat dreigt te gebeuren op den duur omdat er bijna geen olie-inkomsten meer zijn, en de rest van de wereld al heel veel geld bevroren heeft van hem) dan droogt ook de steun op voor hem. De vraag is voor hoeveel hij nog aan reserves heeft liggen. Echt de meeste lui die voor hem vechten zijn alleen maar royaal aan zijn bankrekening.
Wat een angst moet je dan hebben he, denken dat ze je dood gaan schieten pffff.quote:Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 07:54 schreef yavanna het volgende:
Video interview met Goktay Koraltan en Feras Kilani, de gemartelde BBC journo's
Worldview: Why we mustn't initiate a Libya no-fly zone
Instead, U.S. officials should help coordinate an Arab and African response to this crisis.
By Trudy Rubin - Inquirer Opinion Columnist
Instead, U.S. officials should help coordinate an Arab and African response to this crisis.
By Trudy Rubin - Inquirer Opinion Columnist
quote:It might be easier to generate an international response if Gadhafi were slaughtering huge numbers of people. Massive ethnic cleansing by Serbian leaders impelled the United Nations to declare a no-fly zone over Bosnia in 1993 and for NATO to impose one over Kosovo in 1999. The United States, France, and Britain imposed no-fly zones over northern and southern Iraq in the early 1990s after Saddam Hussein slaughtered thousands of Shiites.
But the situation in Libya is not (yet) that horrific; rather than wide-scale slaughter of unarmed protesters, it has morphed into a struggle between tribal groups that support and oppose Gadhafi. "A no-fly zone . . . might make us feel good," says Micah Zenko, a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, "but it isn't relevant to the fight that is going on now [which is] a civil war."
As Zenko points out, in such a conflict, a no-fly zone might not even achieve much. Many of the bombing runs by Gadhafi's aging MiG fighters appear ineffective, and many appear aimed at ammunition dumps, not civilians. Most of the killing appears to be carried out by artillery, mortars, and machine guns targeting ill-organized and often leaderless rebel forces.
I can't help recalling, with a shudder, that some of the worst massacres that the Serbs committed in Bosnia took place while a U.N. no-fly zone was in operation. And in Iraq, the no-fly zones continued for more than a decade, but Hussein was toppled only by the 2003 invasion.
What would happen if the United States established a no-fly zone and Gadhafi continued to fight - or reestablished control? Would we send in ground forces?
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FraCicardi Francesca Cicardi
Benghazi empty today:growing fears of a counterattack as revolutionaries leave the city to the front.Rebel Gov asking them to stay. #Libya
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Tripolitanian Libyan
#Gaddafi forces advancing towards Ras Lanouf #Libya
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Benghazi empty today:growing fears of a counterattack as revolutionaries leave the city to the front.Rebel Gov asking them to stay. #Libya
8 minutes ago
Tripolitanian Libyan
#Gaddafi forces advancing towards Ras Lanouf #Libya
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quote:
Als de cashflow opdroogt (wat dreigt te gebeuren op den duur omdat er bijna geen olie-inkomsten meer zijn, en de rest van de wereld al heel veel geld bevroren heeft van hem) dan droogt ook de steun op voor hem. De vraag is voor hoeveel hij nog aan reserves heeft liggen. Echt de meeste lui die voor hem vechten zijn alleen maar royaal aan zijn bankrekening.
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The Libyan leader Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi has tens of billions in cash secretly hidden away in Tripoli, allowing him to prolong his fight against rebel forces despite an international freeze on many of the Libyan governments assets[/b], according to American and other intelligence officials.
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Inderdaad.quote:
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Wat een angst moet je dan hebben he, denken dat ze je dood gaan schieten pffff.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
quote:'Kaddafi overweegt ballingschap'
Uitgegeven: 10 maart 2011 09:55
Laatst gewijzigd: 10 maart 2011 09:58
AMSTERDAM - De Libische leider Muammar Kaddafi overweegt een ballingschap te aanvaarden.
© AFP
Dat schrijft het Duitse persbureau DPA donderdag op basis van een Arabische krant.
Volgens een vertrouweling van de omstreden kolonel denk Kaddafi na over een leven in ballingschap in Niger of Tsjaad.
TristanAJE Tristan Redman
Reports that artillery assault on #raslanuf by pro-gov forces now on 3 sides. From sea to nth, desert to sth, road to west #libya
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Reports that artillery assault on #raslanuf by pro-gov forces now on 3 sides. From sea to nth, desert to sth, road to west #libya
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Maar ik heb geen idee hoeveel al die huurlingen kosten. Als hij er echt 6000 heeft ingevlogen en die moeten dagelijks betaald krijgen. En al het militaire materieel kost ook geld. Maar hij zou het idd wel een tijdje kunnen uithouden ja...quote:
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goede morgen , nog belangrijk nieuws ? 
van NU.nl:
AMSTERDAM - De Libische leider Muammar Kaddafi overweegt een ballingschap te aanvaarden.
© AFPDat schrijft het Duitse persbureau DPA donderdag op basis van een Arabische krant.
Volgens een vertrouweling van de omstreden kolonel denk Kaddafi na over een leven in ballingschap in Niger of Tsjaad.
AMSTERDAM - De Libische leider Muammar Kaddafi overweegt een ballingschap te aanvaarden.
© AFPDat schrijft het Duitse persbureau DPA donderdag op basis van een Arabische krant.
Volgens een vertrouweling van de omstreden kolonel denk Kaddafi na over een leven in ballingschap in Niger of Tsjaad.
There is only one religion
van AJE blog:
11:04am Gaddafi's forces have launched a fresh bombardment on the eastern Libyan oil town of Ras Lanuf on Thursday, a day after warplanes were reported to have struck another oil port, rebels and witnesses
said.
Bombs or missiles were landing a few km (miles) from Ras Lanuf oil refinery and close to a building of the Libyan Emirates Oil Referiny Company (LERCO) building, a Reuters witness said.
"One bomb landed on a civilian house in Ras Lanuf," rebel fighter Izeddine Sheikhy told Reuters.
He said the bombardment seemed to have come from the direction of the sea. This could not be confirmed.
A warplane was circling over Ras Lanuf, the Reuters witness said.
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10:24am The German economy ministry says it has frozen bank accounts in the country held by the Libyan central bank and the Libyan Investment Authority.
The ministry said in a statement that the move also covered the Libya Africa Investment Portfolio and the Libyan Foreign
Bank.
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10:23am Libya's oil port of Brega is out of crude oil stocks due to weeks of unrest, forcing crude tankers to leave the port without any cargo.
Ivica Pijaca, a tanker chartering manager for Croatian maritime firm Tankerska Plovidba, told Reuters: "We are not going there for the time being. [Our vessel] Frankopan was canceled because there was not enough cargo.
"The last aframax to get any cargo was on March 5."
He said aframax tankers diverted from Libya were seeking business in Sidi Kerir as Saudi Arabia was pumping more oil to make up for Libya's shortfall.
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10:16am Libyan rebels fired rockets in the direction of the sea on Thursday after reports that Libyan gunboats in the Mediterranean Sea may have attacked rebel positions on the front line in the oil-producing east.
"We came into Bin Jawad but gunboats fired on us so we withdrew," one fighter, Adel Yahya, said.
Rebel colonel, Bashir Abdul Qadr, at that time could not confirm whether naval vessels had been used, but said: "We had bombing from the direction of the sea."
.
11:04am Gaddafi's forces have launched a fresh bombardment on the eastern Libyan oil town of Ras Lanuf on Thursday, a day after warplanes were reported to have struck another oil port, rebels and witnesses
said.
Bombs or missiles were landing a few km (miles) from Ras Lanuf oil refinery and close to a building of the Libyan Emirates Oil Referiny Company (LERCO) building, a Reuters witness said.
"One bomb landed on a civilian house in Ras Lanuf," rebel fighter Izeddine Sheikhy told Reuters.
He said the bombardment seemed to have come from the direction of the sea. This could not be confirmed.
A warplane was circling over Ras Lanuf, the Reuters witness said.
.Timestamp:
10:24am The German economy ministry says it has frozen bank accounts in the country held by the Libyan central bank and the Libyan Investment Authority.
The ministry said in a statement that the move also covered the Libya Africa Investment Portfolio and the Libyan Foreign
Bank.
.Timestamp:
10:23am Libya's oil port of Brega is out of crude oil stocks due to weeks of unrest, forcing crude tankers to leave the port without any cargo.
Ivica Pijaca, a tanker chartering manager for Croatian maritime firm Tankerska Plovidba, told Reuters: "We are not going there for the time being. [Our vessel] Frankopan was canceled because there was not enough cargo.
"The last aframax to get any cargo was on March 5."
He said aframax tankers diverted from Libya were seeking business in Sidi Kerir as Saudi Arabia was pumping more oil to make up for Libya's shortfall.
.Timestamp:
10:16am Libyan rebels fired rockets in the direction of the sea on Thursday after reports that Libyan gunboats in the Mediterranean Sea may have attacked rebel positions on the front line in the oil-producing east.
"We came into Bin Jawad but gunboats fired on us so we withdrew," one fighter, Adel Yahya, said.
Rebel colonel, Bashir Abdul Qadr, at that time could not confirm whether naval vessels had been used, but said: "We had bombing from the direction of the sea."
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panosharitos panos haritos
Heavy fighting for #Bin jawwad village right now. Rebels keeping positions artillery pounding Ras Lasnouf, fighter jets arrive in the area.
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Heavy fighting for #Bin jawwad village right now. Rebels keeping positions artillery pounding Ras Lasnouf, fighter jets arrive in the area.
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LibyaFeb17_com BREAKING: Residential areas hit in Ras Lanuf - #feb17 #libya - http://t.co/3fhzvx5
4 minutes ago via Tweet Button .
bencnn Propeller plane circling over Al-Brega. Yesterday residents said bombs dropped on natural gas plant but didn't explode. #Libya
5 minutes ago via web
4 minutes ago via Tweet Button .
bencnn Propeller plane circling over Al-Brega. Yesterday residents said bombs dropped on natural gas plant but didn't explode. #Libya
5 minutes ago via web
There is only one religion
panosharitos Heavy fighting for #Bin jawwad village right now. Rebels keeping positions artillery pounding Ras Lasnouf, fighter jets arrive in the area.
13 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone .
ianinegypt Went to a "spontaneous" victory party for the gov in Zawiyah. From all appearances it looked well organized. No word if city fell. #Libya
15 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® .
panosharitos #Gaddafy artillery pounding #Ras Lanouf residential area. Ambulances evacuate injured rebel fighters to Azedabia, #Libya (via phone)
13 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone .
ianinegypt Went to a "spontaneous" victory party for the gov in Zawiyah. From all appearances it looked well organized. No word if city fell. #Libya
15 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® .
panosharitos #Gaddafy artillery pounding #Ras Lanouf residential area. Ambulances evacuate injured rebel fighters to Azedabia, #Libya (via phone)
There is only one religion
AlArabiya_Eng AlArabiya English
Libya's Zawiyah back under Gaddafi's control: witness #Alarabiya #Libya #Gaddafi #Feb17
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Libya's Zawiyah back under Gaddafi's control: witness #Alarabiya #Libya #Gaddafi #Feb17
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Er staat ook dat deze "demonstranten" zwaar bewaakt werden. Tegen wie dan?quote:
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De jongen achter de groene vlag ziet er uit alsof hij ook geschoten word als hij niet meewerkt
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
Iets Freudiaansquote:
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Lol ja, beetje domme typfout
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
http://english.aljazeera.(...)131041228856242.html
Bizar surrealistisch filmpje, zeker op het eind met die gigantsiche kolommen van rook en de raketten die overvliegen. Er staat sowieso een oliedepot goed in de fik.
Bizar surrealistisch filmpje, zeker op het eind met die gigantsiche kolommen van rook en de raketten die overvliegen. Er staat sowieso een oliedepot goed in de fik.
Opgeblazen gevoel of winderigheid? Zo opgelost met Rennie!
's morgensquote:
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
panosharitos panos haritos
Fighter plane drop 2 bombs 80 meters away from our camera crew at the out skirt of #Ras Lanouf. All of us ok. #Libya (via phone)
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Fighter plane drop 2 bombs 80 meters away from our camera crew at the out skirt of #Ras Lanouf. All of us ok. #Libya (via phone)
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Die jacky is de Conny Mus van Al Jazeeraquote:
http://english.aljazeera.(...)131041228856242.html
Bizar surrealistisch filmpje, zeker op het eind met die gigantsiche kolommen van rook en de raketten die overvliegen. Er staat sowieso een oliedepot goed in de fik.
. Bizar filmpje.
nul.nl: " Frankrijk heeft de Nationale Libische Raad als enige vertegenwoordiging van Libië erkend."
guardian.co.uk: "France has just become the first major European power to recognise the Libyan national council in Benghazi as the legitimate representative of Libyan people.
France is to open an embassy in Benghazi and will allow the Libyan embassy in Paris to reopen.
This will be welcomed by the Libyan council, which has been pushing for such recognition."
guardian.co.uk: "France has just become the first major European power to recognise the Libyan national council in Benghazi as the legitimate representative of Libyan people.
France is to open an embassy in Benghazi and will allow the Libyan embassy in Paris to reopen.
This will be welcomed by the Libyan council, which has been pushing for such recognition."
aanval op Ras Lanuf, vannuit 3 kanten,waaronder vanaf zee. havy fighting reported
van aje verslag van reporter
van aje verslag van reporter
There is only one religion
Net op al J. een reporter aan de telefoon en op de achtergrond hoorde je idd zware gevechten.quote:
aanval op Ras Lanuf, vannuit 3 kanten,waaronder vanaf zee. havy fighting reported
Vliegtuigen zouden al 3 aanvallen hebben uitgevoerd.
Frankrijk vindt duidelijk dat ze wat goed te maken hebben in hun relatie met de Arabische wereld.. Op zich goed nieuws, maar wel vreemd dat ze niet even dat EU overleg afwachten..
Mary had a little lamb
Then Mary had dessert
Then Mary had dessert
frankrijk heeft er veel vertrouwen in dat de rebellen gaan winnen?quote:
Frankrijk vindt duidelijk dat ze wat goed te maken hebben in hun relatie met de Arabische wereld.. Op zich goed nieuws, maar wel vreemd dat ze niet even dat EU overleg afwachten..
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TristanAJE Tristan Redman
Now hearing reports of air and sea bombardment of Brega to East of #RasLanuf "Not safe at all" says my contact #libya
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Now hearing reports of air and sea bombardment of Brega to East of #RasLanuf "Not safe at all" says my contact #libya
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petersbeaumont Hearing from various sources that the many closed shops in Tripoli are closed not for safety but because of civil disobedience campaign
Twitter - 1uur geleden
EARLIER: Qaddafi's forces are escalating the war again, attacking the critical eastern city of Ras Lanuf for the first time with warships and ground forces, according to Al Jazeera. Aerial bombardment of civilians and energy infrastructure continues as well. (businessinsider)
Twitter - 1uur geleden
EARLIER: Qaddafi's forces are escalating the war again, attacking the critical eastern city of Ras Lanuf for the first time with warships and ground forces, according to Al Jazeera. Aerial bombardment of civilians and energy infrastructure continues as well. (businessinsider)
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AlArabiya_Eng AlArabiya English
Russia says no-fly zone talk premature: http://goo.gl/iCZy1 #Libya #Gaddafi #Feb17
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Als ze nog lang wachten hoeft het niet meer is iedereen dood.
Russia says no-fly zone talk premature: http://goo.gl/iCZy1 #Libya #Gaddafi #Feb17
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Als ze nog lang wachten hoeft het niet meer is iedereen dood.
#
1101: Two shells have hit the centre of Ras Lanuf, landing about 500 metres (yards) from the hospital as ambulances raced to the scene, an AFP reporter says.
1101: Two shells have hit the centre of Ras Lanuf, landing about 500 metres (yards) from the hospital as ambulances raced to the scene, an AFP reporter says.
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Bangladeshi refugees fleeing Libya wait to be registered in a refugee camp at the Tunisia-Libyan border, in Ras Ajdir, Tunisia, Tuesday March 8, 2011. The 20,000-capacity transit camp for thousands of migrant workers who have fled the fighting in Libya in the past two weeks is about seven kilometers (four miles) from the Libyan border and is expanding with each day of crisis in Libya. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)
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Liam Fox: Libya no-fly zone doesn't need attack
Military action is not the only way to impose a no-fly zone on Libya, UK Defence Secretary Liam Fox has said.
His US counterpart Robert Gates has warned that forces would have to attack Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's defences in order to ground his planes.
But Dr Fox told BBC Radio 4's Today programme there were "alternatives".
Foreign Secretary William Hague is urging the EU to impose sanctions on Libya, as the Gaddafi regime continues to battle with rebel forces.
Earlier this month, Mr Gates rejected "loose talk" about taking steps which could amount to an act of war.
Dr Fox will meet fellow Nato defence ministers later to discuss the drafting of a UN resolution, being put together by the UK and France, which will call for an air exclusion zone over Libya.
Asked on Today whether such a move would require an attack on the country, he replied: "In Iraq that's not the way we carried out the no-fly zone. There are alternatives."
'Very worrying'
Dr Fox said that, rather than "taking out" air defences in a pre-emptive strike, Nato leaders could say that, if an enemy locked its air defence radar on Nato planes, they could "regard that as a hostile action and take subsequent action".
He added: "That's one military option but there are other military options that we have used."
The defence secretary said he and his Nato colleagues wanted to make sure that "we are all on the same page".
Dr Fox also said any action would require international and regional support, but described Col Gaddafi's use of violence as "very worrying".
BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus said no decisions were likely to be taken at the Nato meeting, although contingency planning could be intensified.
Meanwhile, Mr Hague and his German counterpart, Guido Westerwelle, have urged the European Union to explore ways of imposing more sanctions on Libya.
In a letter to EU foreign affairs chief Baroness Ashton, they say Col Gaddafi "has to step aside to allow for a true democratic transformation of the country".
The letter continues: "The EU should agree to an ambitious, clear response with a series of concrete actions both for the short and longer term."
Sources at the Foreign Office say this does not mean cutting formal diplomatic ties with Libya, but consideration is being given to further ways to "isolate" Col Gaddafi.
Military action is not the only way to impose a no-fly zone on Libya, UK Defence Secretary Liam Fox has said.
His US counterpart Robert Gates has warned that forces would have to attack Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's defences in order to ground his planes.
But Dr Fox told BBC Radio 4's Today programme there were "alternatives".
Foreign Secretary William Hague is urging the EU to impose sanctions on Libya, as the Gaddafi regime continues to battle with rebel forces.
Earlier this month, Mr Gates rejected "loose talk" about taking steps which could amount to an act of war.
Dr Fox will meet fellow Nato defence ministers later to discuss the drafting of a UN resolution, being put together by the UK and France, which will call for an air exclusion zone over Libya.
Asked on Today whether such a move would require an attack on the country, he replied: "In Iraq that's not the way we carried out the no-fly zone. There are alternatives."
'Very worrying'
Dr Fox said that, rather than "taking out" air defences in a pre-emptive strike, Nato leaders could say that, if an enemy locked its air defence radar on Nato planes, they could "regard that as a hostile action and take subsequent action".
He added: "That's one military option but there are other military options that we have used."
The defence secretary said he and his Nato colleagues wanted to make sure that "we are all on the same page".
Dr Fox also said any action would require international and regional support, but described Col Gaddafi's use of violence as "very worrying".
BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus said no decisions were likely to be taken at the Nato meeting, although contingency planning could be intensified.
Meanwhile, Mr Hague and his German counterpart, Guido Westerwelle, have urged the European Union to explore ways of imposing more sanctions on Libya.
In a letter to EU foreign affairs chief Baroness Ashton, they say Col Gaddafi "has to step aside to allow for a true democratic transformation of the country".
The letter continues: "The EU should agree to an ambitious, clear response with a series of concrete actions both for the short and longer term."
Sources at the Foreign Office say this does not mean cutting formal diplomatic ties with Libya, but consideration is being given to further ways to "isolate" Col Gaddafi.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Wauw, wat een foto.quote:
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Bangladeshi refugees fleeing Libya wait to be registered in a refugee camp at the Tunisia-Libyan border, in Ras Ajdir, Tunisia, Tuesday March 8, 2011. The 20,000-capacity transit camp for thousands of migrant workers who have fled the fighting in Libya in the past two weeks is about seven kilometers (four miles) from the Libyan border and is expanding with each day of crisis in Libya. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)
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quote:10.59am: Opposition forces on the main front line between the Mediterranean oil port of Ras Lanouf and the city of Bin Jawwad, appear to have established better supply lines, bringing heavy weapons like multiple-rocket launcher trucks and small tanks to the battle, Reuters reports.
Youssef Fittori, a major in the opposition force, said a mix of defectors from Gadhafi's special forces and civilain rebels were fighting government forces about 12 miles west of Ras Lanouf on the main coastal road to Bin Jawwad.
"Today, God willing, we will take Bin Jawwad. We are moving forward," he said.
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bencnn Approaching Ras Lanuf checkpoint men say planes overhead, hearing loud booms from the other sides of Ras Lanuf10 so far #Libya
3 minutes ago via web
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There is only one religion
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Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch! Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.
Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch! Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.
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Waar lees je dit?quote:Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 12:24 schreef yavanna het volgende:
AJELive AJELive
Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch! Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.
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Gaat dit over die enge mevrouw?quote:
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Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch! Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulsequote:
Of je haalt gewoon een 15 killstreak in mw2.
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Rebels stop us on the way 2 #Brega asking us to report that if no decision on Nofly zone,they will lose the 2 oil ports in the next 17 hours
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Rebels stop us on the way 2 #Brega asking us to report that if no decision on Nofly zone,they will lose the 2 oil ports in the next 17 hours
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cmac0000 AlJazeera tweeting re "the witch is dead, which old witch, the wicked witch" Is Gadaffi gone? Curious! Even more curious-u cant RT AlJazeera
Twitter - 10 minuten geleden
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http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)-in-female-form.htmlquote:
Op https://twitter.com/#!/AJELive staat het er niet bij. Zeker snel verwijderd dan.
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quote:etharkamal RT @FrazYounis: Am I missing something? RT @AJELive: Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch! Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead. 15 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
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Bron?quote:
Pro New World Government forces zetten honderden kind soldaten in tegen de regering van Gaddafi.
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winkels weigeren open te gaan in tripoli , niet vanwege tekorten maar vanwege burgelijke ongehoorzaamheid tegen het regime
There is only one religion
Wat wordt er onder kind soldaten verstaan qua leeftijd en wat zouden zij dan doen? Bron zou idd fijn zijn.
Ik heb geen kinderen onder de ca 15 jaar gezien en die zaten, dacht ik, niet a.h front.
Van die menselijke schilden beschuldigen beiden partijen elkaar.
Ik heb geen kinderen onder de ca 15 jaar gezien en die zaten, dacht ik, niet a.h front.
Van die menselijke schilden beschuldigen beiden partijen elkaar.
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Joh.quote:Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 12:33 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
DING DONG! THE WITCH IS DEAD Lyrics
The wizard of Oz
AFC AJAX
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Tripoli again on lockdown ahead of Friday prayers. Despite gov assurances I guess "the situation" isn't resolved.
Tripoli again on lockdown ahead of Friday prayers. Despite gov assurances I guess "the situation" isn't resolved.
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1140: A Libyan news agency says it is in possession of a "grave" secret that could topple French President Nicolas Sarkozy, BBC Monitoring reports. "Al-Jamahiriyah news agency learnt today there is a grave secret that would definitely lead to the toppling of Sarkozy and perhaps his trial. The secret is related to the funding of his electoral campaign," said an urgent caption on Libyan TV.
1140: A Libyan news agency says it is in possession of a "grave" secret that could topple French President Nicolas Sarkozy, BBC Monitoring reports. "Al-Jamahiriyah news agency learnt today there is a grave secret that would definitely lead to the toppling of Sarkozy and perhaps his trial. The secret is related to the funding of his electoral campaign," said an urgent caption on Libyan TV.
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Wat ik nu zo vreemd vindt is dat ik elke dag weer Aljazeera hoor zeggen hoe goed het is dat deze lan/den Nationalistisch zijn.
Ik heb een hekel aan Nationalisten maar toch hoor ik alleen maar lovende verhalen over Aljazeera door mede linksen op dit forum.
Terwijl elke dag wordt gezegd dat het -GOED is dat er nu Nationalisme in de Arabische wereld is.
1 keer vertelden ze zelfs dat Gaddafi -geen egte Lybier is omdat hij een italiaanse vader of moe/der is puur racistisch maar toch geen negatief woord over aljazeera raar hoor.
Ik heb een hekel aan Nationalisten maar toch hoor ik alleen maar lovende verhalen over Aljazeera door mede linksen op dit forum.
Terwijl elke dag wordt gezegd dat het -GOED is dat er nu Nationalisme in de Arabische wereld is.
1 keer vertelden ze zelfs dat Gaddafi -geen egte Lybier is omdat hij een italiaanse vader of moe/der is puur racistisch maar toch geen negatief woord over aljazeera raar hoor.
Er zijn dus serieuze journo's actief die in serieuze problemen komen.quote:
Guardian correspondent missing in Libya
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#1144: Warplanes sent by forces loyal to Col Gaddafi have bombed the oil town of Brega - about 90 km (56 miles) east of Ras Lanuf - reports Reuters, extending attacks deeper into rebel-held territory in the east of Libya, rebels reported. Brega has not been targeted for several days.
#1145: Jeel Ghathub tweets: "#Libya's central bank has ordered banks to recirculate old currency. This is a sign that #Gaddafi is facing liquidity problems". (BBC)
#1145: Jeel Ghathub tweets: "#Libya's central bank has ordered banks to recirculate old currency. This is a sign that #Gaddafi is facing liquidity problems". (BBC)
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Omdat de regimes de opstandelingen ervan beschuldigen hun land kapot te willen maken, terwijl ze vechten tegen het regime.quote:
Wat ik nu zo vreemd vindt is dat ik elke dag weer Aljazeera hoor zeggen hoe goed het is dat deze lan/den Nationalistisch zijn.
Ik heb een hekel aan Nationalisten maar toch hoor ik alleen maar lovende verhalen over Aljazeera door mede linksen op dit forum.
Terwijl elke dag wordt gezegd dat het -GOED is dat er nu Nationalisme in de Arabische wereld is.
1 keer vertelden ze zelfs dat Gaddafi -geen egte Lybier is omdat hij een italiaanse vader of moe/der is puur racistisch maar toch geen negatief woord over aljazeera raar hoor.
Vandaar.
Woorden zijn heel belangrijk, propaganda enz.
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Haha, zou niet verbaasd zijn als idd blijkt dat Sarkozy geld heeft ontvangen van Gadaffi.quote:Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 12:42 schreef yavanna het volgende:
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1140: A Libyan news agency says it is in possession of a "grave" secret that could topple French President Nicolas Sarkozy, BBC Monitoring reports. "Al-Jamahiriyah news agency learnt today there is a grave secret that would definitely lead to the toppling of Sarkozy and perhaps his trial. The secret is related to the funding of his electoral campaign," said an urgent caption on Libyan TV.
Een nationalistisch land is een STERK land!quote:
Wat ik nu zo vreemd vindt is dat ik elke dag weer Aljazeera hoor zeggen hoe goed het is dat deze lan/den Nationalistisch zijn.
Ik heb een hekel aan Nationalisten maar toch hoor ik alleen maar lovende verhalen over Aljazeera door mede linksen op dit forum.
Terwijl elke dag wordt gezegd dat het -GOED is dat er nu Nationalisme in de Arabische wereld is.
1 keer vertelden ze zelfs dat Gaddafi -geen egte Lybier is omdat hij een italiaanse vader of moe/der is puur racistisch maar toch geen negatief woord over aljazeera raar hoor.
Yep.. Minder serieuze journalisten zouden ze een cappo voor z'n neus zetten op zo'n afstand dat ie er net niet bij kan. Of een cappu drinken voor z'n neus, of een hele vieze cappu aan hem gevenquote:
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Er zijn dus serieuze journo's actief die in serieuze problemen komen.
Deze journalist van the Guardian is blijkbaar in de omgeving van Zawiya geweest, dan vrees ik het ergste voor hem.
Wat gewoon is voor de spin, is chaos voor de vlieg.
#1148: Urgent efforts are under way to establish the whereabouts of the Guardian correspondent Ghaith Abdul-Ahad, the newspaper reports. He last made contact with the newspaper on Sunday. He was travelling with Andrei Netto of the Brazilian newspaper Estado de Sao Paulo, who is also missing. (BBC)quote:
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Er zijn dus serieuze journo's actief die in serieuze problemen komen.
Ghaith Abdul-Ahad has been reporting from western Libya for the past two weeks. Photograph: Martin Argles for the Guardian
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Dus als ik het -goed begrijp is Arabisch Nationalisme goed, maar Nationalisme in het Westen is slecht?quote:
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Omdat de regimes de opstandelingen ervan beschuldigen hun land kapot te willen maken, terwijl ze vechten tegen het regime.
Vandaar.
Woorden zijn heel belangrijk, propaganda enz.
Vuiile kutnazi jammer dat ze jouw zijn vergeten te executeren na de tweede wereld oorlog kut NSBérquote:
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Een nationalistisch land is een STERK land!
Of een dag voor niks in een hotel zitten wachten.quote:
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Yep.. Minder serieuze journalisten zouden ze een cappo voor z'n neus zetten op zo'n afstand dat ie er net niet bij kan. Of een cappu drinken voor z'n neus, of een hele vieze cappu aan hem geven
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quote:Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 12:55 schreef maartsp het volgende:
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Vuiile kutnazi jammer dat ze jouw zijn vergeten te executeren na de tweede wereld oorlog kut NSBér
AFC AJAX
wie zegt dat nationalisme in het westen slecht is? ik ben tegen eu en vindt een hoop dingen die echt nationalistisch zijn. ben een hollander geen europeaanquote:
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Dus als ik het -goed begrijp is Arabisch Nationalisme goed, maar Nationalisme in het Westen is slecht?
There is only one religion
Deze reeks is wel een kloonmagneet.quote:
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Vuiile kutnazi jammer dat ze jouw zijn vergeten te executeren na de tweede wereld oorlog kut NSBér
Nee, dat begrijp je verkeerd. Maar dan moet je mijn post nog een keer lezen, hij is heel duidelijk. Anders wil ik best met je in discussie in dit topic:quote:
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Dus als ik het -goed begrijp is Arabisch Nationalisme goed, maar Nationalisme in het Westen is slecht?
The rules of disinformation.
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De meeste moderne vliegtuigen zijn beschermd tegen EMP's, mja Gaddafi heeft vooral oudere Sovjet-kistenquote:
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We trekken idd flink de aandacht.quote:
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Deze reeks is wel een kloonmagneet.
Ik ben blij
TR gedaan iemand?
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quote:
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Vuiile kutnazi jammer dat ze jouw zijn vergeten te executeren na de tweede wereld oorlog kut NSBér
Kan hier een ban worden gegeven want dit slaat echt nergens op. Gewoon puur trollen. Mods?quote:
Opgeblazen gevoel of winderigheid? Zo opgelost met Rennie!
En die bescherming helpt maar een beetje. Kwestie van vooral alles extra aarden.quote:
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De meeste moderne vliegtuigen zijn beschermd tegen EMP's, mja Gaddafi heeft vooral oudere Sovjet-kisten
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wie is hier de NSB-erquote:
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Vuiile kutnazi jammer dat ze jouw zijn vergeten te executeren na de tweede wereld oorlog kut NSBér
There is only one religion
Ok nu begrijp ik het Aljazeera is dus wel -gewoon een propaganda zender van de New World Order en versprijd Disinformatie dank je dat je dat duidelijk maakt.quote:
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Nee, dat begrijp je verkeerd. Maar dan moet je mijn post nog een keer lezen, hij is heel duidelijk. Anders wil ik best met je in discussie in dit topic:
The rules of disinformation.
schrok ook de eerste keer nu lach ik eromquote:
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Kan hier een ban worden gegeven want dit slaat echt nergens op. Gewoon puur trollen. Mods?
There is only one religion
Ik schrik er niet van maar het haalt wel dit topic onderuit.quote:
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schrok ook de eerste keer nu lach ik erom
Opgeblazen gevoel of winderigheid? Zo opgelost met Rennie!
Nou nou, misschien kun je je eerst even inlezen in de 2e wereldoorlog, executies waren juist meer iets die de NSBers deden. Als je dan toch bezig bent, lees je dan ook ff in in de forumregels, de toestand in Libië en als je dan toch bezig bent pak er dan ook nog even een boek over sociale omgangsvormen bijquote:
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Vuiile kutnazi jammer dat ze jouw zijn vergeten te executeren na de tweede wereld oorlog kut NSBér
Wat gewoon is voor de spin, is chaos voor de vlieg.
