Demonstraties in Europa: Griekenland.

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Op maandag 6 juni 2011 14:53 schreef Tijger_m het volgende:

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Wat een gelul, een gewone lage ambtenaar is ineens elite? Laat me niet lachen.

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Op maandag 6 juni 2011 15:00 schreef qwerty_x het volgende:
Waar komt die ton per jaar vandaan ??

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Op maandag 6 juni 2011 15:44 schreef qwerty_x het volgende:

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Volgens de berichten gaat het om 4500 dooie ambtenaren en de jaarlijkse kosten zouden 16 miljoen zijn. Bij lange na geen ton per persoon dus.

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Op maandag 6 juni 2011 15:57 schreef Scorpie het volgende:
Papierversnipperaartje toch, die Grieken zijn zo corrupt als wat. Beter ga je het niet voor hun opnemen, dat volk moet hun eigen troep maar eens opruimen.

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Op maandag 6 juni 2011 15:55 schreef qwerty_x het volgende:

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In een interview zegt de minister van Arbeid, Katseli, dat bij een onderzoek bleek dat 4500 gepensioneerde ambtenaren allang overleden waren. De fout kostte meer dan 16 miljoen euro per jaar.

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http://www.spitsnieuws.nl(...)ren_bedolven_on.html
Naast de premies zijn er ook nog de extraatjes die het werken voor de Griekse overheid fijn maken. Medewerkers van de Griekse premier ontvangen zestien maandsalarissen per jaar. Een nachtwaker bij een staatsbedrijf kan jaarlijks 72.000 euro verdienen en werknemers bij datzelfde bedrijf mogen vijf dagen per jaar gratis op vakantie in een hotel naar keuze.

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Op maandag 6 juni 2011 14:54 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Lagere ambtenaren die een ton per jaar verdienen behoren tot de elite

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Op maandag 6 juni 2011 14:53 schreef Zienswijze het volgende:

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Begin je weer? Het is de taak van het volk om politici te controlen door middel van democratie. Dit hebben ze niet voldoende gedaan, jammer dan, eigen verantwoordelijkheid, dan gaat het volk er maar voor "boeten".

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Greek government faces revolt over second wave of austerity measures

Greek prime minister outlines programme of state sell-offs and further belt-tightening

With protests dividing his own party and tens of thousands taking to the streets, Greece's prime minister, George Papandreou, attempted on Monday to whip up support for a new wave of austerity.

As Athens sold a 10% stake in OTE, the state-owned Hellenic Organisation of Telecommunications, to Deutsche Telekom – launching one of Europe's biggest privatisation programmes ever – the socialist leader faced what could be his most critical week in office.

Gathering his cabinet on the eve of a crucial meeting of his increasingly fractious parliamentary group, he outlined the formula – a mid-term fiscal plan of state sell-offs, revenue increases and further belt-tightening – he believes will save Greece from insolvency.

Either they backed the programme or the country "sank" in a ¤340bn (£303bn) debt projected to hit 160% of GDP next year, he said.

Under immense pressure from the EU and IMF – the bodies that bailed Greece out to the tune of ¤110bn last year – Papandreou is in a race against time to pass the policies through parliament.

With Athens unable to borrow on capital markets because of prohibitively high interest rates, Greece's international creditors are locked in talks over a new aid package estimated by the German media at ¤100bn – enough to meet the country's financing needs in 2012 and 2013.

Lenders have made clear that without the ¤50bn privatisation drive and further reform, there will be no second bailout.

But with prominent MPs ideologically opposed to the policies – and many seeing default as the only way out – the ruling Pasok party is riven by dispute.

"There is a real risk of internal revolt [within Pasok]," said a senior Papandreou aide. "There is some discussion of the prime minister calling a referendum."

In the current climate few are convinced that the vote would pass.

Ordinary Greeks say they have already been brought to their knees by a series of unprecedented public spending cuts that have seen wages frozen, pensions dwindling, taxes soar and benefits lost.

Public opposition is such that on Sunday 80,000 protesters converged on Syntagma Square, the site of Athens' parliament, to denounce the fresh austerity as the equivalent of a "foreign occupation" with many demanding that the measures be put to popular vote.

"If we do what these institutions want there will be no Greece anymore," complained Elena Christolaki, who at the age of 60 said she was protesting for the first time. "They are demanding that we give up our dignity, sell everything, when it is those thieves in parliament who are to blame."

With corruption regarded as one of the main reasons for the dire state of the nation's public finances, Greeks are demanding that parliamentary immunity be lifted and politicians found guilty of transgress be punished in exemplary fashion.

In an increasingly explosive atmosphere, government ministers have launched an offensive against rot in the public sector.

On Monday, Louka Katselli, the labour minister, said an investigation was underway into the 4,500 dead pensioners "still claiming" benefits, and a "suspicious number" of centenarians on pension payrolls.

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Op dinsdag 7 juni 2011 15:20 schreef Zienswijze het volgende:

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Ja, politici zijn ook maar poppetjes voortkomend uit hetzelfde volk. Als je het ergens niet mee eens bent, kan je protesteren. Net zoals in het onderwijs geprotesteerd is, en nu deze week het OV in de 3 grote steden.

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Greek debt crisis deepens

As Greece teeters on the brink of bankruptcy, protesters blockade parliament while EU ministers seek to stem panic

The debt drama engulfing Greece deepened as Euro group finance ministers met in emergency session to discuss ways of resuscitating the country's ailing economy and protesters in Athens tried to thwart passage of further austerity measures by blockading parliament on the eve of a mass general strike.

Tensions escalated as George Papandreou's socialist government confronted negative polls and a relentless stream of demonstrations initially inspired by Spain's peaceful indignados three weeks ago, but now showing signs of becoming increasingly explosive.

"All it will take is one mistake and the joviality that has marked the protests so far will end in a second," said veteran photographer Spyros Tsakiris, sitting in the heart of the tent city that has formed in central Syntagma Square, site of the Greek parliament.

"The mood has changed noticeably. I watch these people and honestly, I am afraid. At any moment things could go wrong and Greece could go up."

With Europe's debt crisis intensifying by the day, fear appears to be the single biggest factor motivating those in charge of policy on the common currency. But as finance ministers from the 17 euro countries debated how to bail out Greece for a second time in a year, before an EU summit on 25 June, the signs are not promising.

In Athens, a day after Standard and Poor's gave Greece the lowest rating of any country it covers – lower even than Pakistan and Ecuador – the omens appeared to be particularly poor.

Differences over involvement of private investors in the rescue package – which is seen as the key to getting Europe's paymaster, Germany, to agree to it at all – this week pushed the cost of insuring Greek government debt against default up to 1,600 basis points, a record high even by the standards set so far.

More than ever, Papandreou appears stuck between a rock and a hard place. Faced with a ¤340bn (£300bn) debt projected to hit 160% of GDP by 2012, Greece is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy.

Although his government last year slashed the deficit by ¤12bn – through wage and pension cuts, tax increases and benefit losses – the steps have only exacerbated Greece's economic plight.

In a country plagued by a shadow economy that accounts for almost 30% of GDP, the medicine prescribed by the EU, IMF and ECB in exchange for ¤110bn of emergency loans last May, has resulted in a deeper than expected recession with further cost-cutting measures now seen as crucial if Greece is not only to rein in its debt but make it sustainable.

For many – including Papandreou's MPs – the prospect of more austerity is the tipping point. Tax increases announced last week – on everything from property to restaurant bills – in addition to the sale of state assets and closure of public utilities, have sparked outrage at a time when seven out of 10 pensioners are forced to live on ¤700 a month and civil servants, the bulk of the Greek labour force, have had a 20% pay cut.

With the employed at 16%, 42% of whom are aged between 20 and 35, the measures have sent thousands of Greeks who would normally never protest converging on city squares.

"The biggest challenge facing the ruling party is to convince Greeks that these measures are necessary, because there is no guarantee. A year ago people were told the same thing and look what happened," said political commentator Manolis Kapsis, of the nightly news show Mega TV. "The bailout failed."

But while Greeks say they are not prepared to bankrupt themselves to save their country from insolvency, Athens has been told that without further austerity there can be no more aid – not even a fifth instalment drawn down from the country's original bailout, which is vital to paying state pensions and wages this month.

Tomorrow's general strike by workers and civil servants will, say unionists, be the first step in a relentless wave of industrial action against the measures parliament is poised to debate. Next week, the country's biggest electric power company will begin rolling strikes.

Protesters say they will form a human chain around the parliament to prevent deputies from debating the measures and threatening legal action against those who vote in favour.

But Greece is also attracting help from unlikely places. On Tuesday, scores of Chinese business leaders, financiers, entrepreneurs and academics piled into a hotel in Athens for a "premier conference" aimed at increasing Chinese investment in Greece, where foreign direct investment remains among the lowest in Europe.

After taking over day-to-day running of Piraeus, the biggest harbour in the Med, China has signalled it wants to buy the loss-making railway company OSE, as well as other infrastructure projects.

Chinese officials admit they see Greece as the perfect gateway to markets in the Balkans and Europe beyond.

"One of the good things about this economic crisis," said Lefteris Anastassakis, a manager with the Greek cement giant Titan, who is learning Chinese, "is that it has made China's entry easier and also easier for us to accept. Ten years ago it would have seemed a science fiction that the Chinese would be the people who would help save Greece from economic collapse."

Some of the world's wealthiest financiers, bankers and real estate tycoons of Greek descent also arrived for a "power summit" aimed at exploring business opportunities. "There are a lot of people of Greek descent out there who would love to help this country," said Nikos Gitsis, a Greek American who co-founded South East Asia Airlines in the Philippines.

"Greece is virgin territory for investment," said Nikos Gitsis, a Greek American who co-founded South East Asia Airlines in the Philippines. "If it could guarantee fair play, rules and the eradication of corruption and bribery, we would be here helping it get out of this drama."