De War on Drugs in Mexico - hier verder

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 15:05 schreef Boris_Karloff het volgende:

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Steeds meer mensen worden wakker uit de droom die een drugsvrije wereld is en snappen dat de realiteit toch anders werkt.

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 17:15 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Maar wat doen we met de klootzakken die welbewust slechte wetten bedenken en handhaven?

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 17:38 schreef johnnylove het volgende:

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Wat als er niemand is die de wetten handhaaft, dan heb je er ook niks aan.

In Mexico heb je denk ook wetten tegen smokkel, moorden, ontvoeringen, overvallen enz. Zullen die ook stoppen?

Daarnaast is Mexico absoluut niet gebaat bij het legaliseren van drugs, omdat daarmee de problemen niet te overzien worden.

Deze bendes beschikken al over enorm veel macht en geld en dit uitbreiden naar de "bovenwereld"?

Hoe denk je dat hun invloed zal zijn over de "onschuldige burgers".

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 17:38 schreef johnnylove het volgende:

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Wat als er niemand is die de wetten handhaaft, dan heb je er ook niks aan.

In Mexico heb je denk ook wetten tegen smokkel, moorden, ontvoeringen, overvallen enz. Zullen die ook stoppen?

Daarnaast is Mexico absoluut niet gebaat bij het legaliseren van drugs, omdat daarmee de problemen niet te overzien worden.

Deze bendes beschikken al over enorm veel macht en geld en dit uitbreiden naar de "bovenwereld"?

Hoe denk je dat hun invloed zal zijn over de "onschuldige burgers".

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 17:47 schreef Boris_Karloff het volgende:

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Kijk naar de drooglegging in Amerika, die situatie is vergelijkbaar. Had je daarna de problemen die ze ten tijde van de drooglegging ook hadden?

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 17:53 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Dit zijn allemaal gevolgen van het verbod op drugs.

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 18:04 schreef johnnylove het volgende:


Deze uitspraak is al zo fout dat ik niet weet waar ik moet beginnen..

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Als je iedere misdadiger dood, zal er dan nooit meer een misdaad worden gepleegd?

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 18:52 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Begin toch maar want het is gewoon waar wat ik zeg.

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Het is makkelijker om alle wetten af te schaffen.

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 18:04 schreef johnnylove het volgende:

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Deze omstandigheden kun je echt niet met elkaar vergelijken, tenzij je drugs over de gehele wereld legaliseert (bijvoorbeeld via VN)

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 19:13 schreef arucard het volgende:

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Goed plan

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 18:04 schreef johnnylove het volgende:
Ik dacht dat we het over Mexico hadden en momenteel heeft legalisatie alleen maar negatieve effecten voor dit land.

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 19:07 schreef johnnylove het volgende:
b) Recht van de sterkste dan maar? Ken nog wel een aantal bevolkingsgroepen die dan heel gelukkig worden..

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 19:07 schreef johnnylove het volgende:
Begin toch maar want het is gewoon waar wat ik zeg.


b) Recht van de sterkste dan maar?

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Mexico: youth follows drug barons' fashion with Ralph Lauren polo shirts

Branded shirts worn by arrested barons have become a trend among youth who 'want to look like the bad guys'

Mexican drug traffickers in Ralph Lauren polo shirts have become unofficial promoters of the fashion among disaffected youth, much to the distress of the authorities.

The trend came to light in August 2010 with the capture of the capo Edgar Valdez Villarreal, aka La Barbie, who was brought before the press wearing an immovable smirk and one of the shirts in green.

Jose Jorge Balderas Garza, known as El JJ and accused of shooting Paraguayan football star Salvador Cabañas in a nightclub, was detained four months later wearing the same model in blue.

La Barbie and El JJ were associated with the same schism of the Beltran Leyva cartel but at least six alleged members of other organisations have been arrested in the same garment this year. They include three Zetas, one from the Southern Pacific cartel and another from the Independent cartel of Acapulco.

Originals sell for about $150 (£90), but knock-off versions are doing a roaring trade on the streets at a tenth of that price. "The kids want to look like the bad guys," said Maria del Carmen Martinez, one Mexico City vendor.

Oscar Galicia, a research psychologist from the Iberoamericana University in the capital, puts it more formally. "There is an aspirational crisis in Mexico today in which young people have lost faith in legal means for social advancement and see the 'narcos' as figures of respect." Galicia said the traffickers copied the style from the Mexican elite who began wearing the shirts several years ago. Urban-based criminals now see themselves as part of that elite and have eschewed the old image dominated by loud open neck shirts, crocodile skin boots, and large gold chains.

Last weekend, the governor of the Pacific coast state of Sinaloa said he was "enormously worried" about the number of young people wearing the shirts. "There are people who want to be like these false idols," he said, adding that he wished they would wear clothes with the images of traditional heroes such as Emiliano Zapata.

The new cross-cartel fashion also coincides with a trend towards semi-formal hitmen uniforms ranging from identical combat gear to matching trainers.

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 14:06 schreef StormWarning het volgende:
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/end_the_war_on_drugs/

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In days, we could finally see the beginning of the end of the ‘war on drugs’. This expensive war has completely failed to curb the plague of drug addiction, while costing countless lives, devastating communities, and funneling trillions of dollars into violent organized crime networks.

Experts all agree that the most sensible policy is to regulate, but politicians are afraid to touch the issue. In days, a global commission including former heads of state and foreign policy chiefs of the UN, EU, US, Brazil, Mexico and more will break the taboo and publicly call for new approaches including decriminalization and regulation of drugs.

This could be a once-in-a-generation tipping-point moment -- if enough of us call for an end to this madness. Politicians say they understand that the war on drugs has failed, but claim the public isn't ready for an alternative. Let's show them we not only accept a sane and humane policy -- we demand it. Sign the petition and share with everyone --if we reach 1 million voices, it will be personally delivered to world leaders by the global commission.

For 50 years current drug policies have failed everyone, everywhere but public debate is stuck in the mud of fear and misinformation. Everyone, even the UN Office on Drugs and Crime which is responsible for enforcing this approach agrees -- deploying militaries and police to burn drug farms, hunting down traffickers, and imprisoning dealers and addicts – is an expensive mistake. And with massive human cost -- from Afghanistan, to Mexico, to the USA the illegal drug trade is destroying countries around the world, while addiction, overdose deaths, and HIV/AIDS infections continue to rise.

Meanwhile, countries with less-harsh enforcement -- like Switzerland, Portugal, the Netherlands, and Australia -- have not seen the explosion in drug use that proponents of the drug war have darkly predicted. Instead, they have seen significant reductions in drug-related crime, addiction and deaths, and are able to focus squarely on dismantling criminal empires.

Powerful lobbies still stand in the way of change, including military, law enforcement, and prison departments whose budgets are at stake. And politicians fear that voters will throw them out of office if they support alternative approaches, as they will appear weak on law and order. But many former drug Ministers and Heads of State have come out in favour of reform since leaving office, and polls show that citizens across the world know the current approach is a catastrophe. Momentum is gathering towards new improved policies, particularly in regions that are ravaged by the drug trade.

If we can create a worldwide outcry in the next few days to support the bold calls of the Global Commission on Drug Policy, we can overpower the stale excuses for the status quo. Our voices hold the key to change -- Sign the petition and spread the word.

We have a chance to enter the closing chapter of this brutal 'war' that has destroyed millions of lives. Global public opinion will determine if this catastrophic policy is stopped or if politicians shy away from reform. Let's rally urgently to push our hesitating leaders from doubt and fear, over the edge, and into reason

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Verder stemde het congres ook voor een motie die het opheffen van het drugsverbod bepleit.

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Op donderdag 2 juni 2011 11:02 schreef El_Matador het volgende:
http://www.nu.nl/buitenla(...)satie-marihuana.html

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Op donderdag 2 juni 2011 11:02 schreef El_Matador het volgende:
http://www.nu.nl/buitenla(...)satie-marihuana.html

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Op donderdag 26 mei 2011 20:29 schreef JoaC het volgende:
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Help de wereld hier vanaf inderdaad.

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(CNN) -- The global war on drugs has failed, a high-level commission comprised of former presidents, public intellectuals and other leaders studying drug policies concluded in a report released Thursday.
International efforts to crack down on drug producers and consumers and to try to reduce demand have had "devastating consequences for individuals and societies around the world," the report from the Global Commission on Drug Policy said.
The commission, which includes former U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, Virgin Group founder Richard Branson and Nobel laureate Mario Vargas Llosa, challenges the conventional wisdom about drug markets and drug use.
Among the group's recommendations:
-- End of criminalization and stigmatization of people who use drugs but do not harm others
-- Encourage governments to experiment with drug legalization, especially marijuana
-- Offer more harm reduction measures, such as access to syringes
-- Ditch "just say no" and "zero tolerance" policies for youth in favor of other educational efforts.
The theory that increasing law enforcement action would lead to a shrinking drug market has not worked, the report says. To the contrary, illegal drug markets and the organized criminal organizations that traffic them have grown, the group found.
The report comes as countries such as Mexico suffer from widespread drug-related violence. More than 40,000 people have been killed in Mexico in the past four years as rival cartels battle each other over lucrative smuggling corridors and as the army fights the cartels.
The commission's findings add more high-profile voices to a growing movement calling for a radical approach to drugs. Other leaders, such as former Mexican President Vicente Fox, have called for drug legalization as part of a solution to his country's woes.