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Bloempje, ik zie helaas geen plaatje o.i.d. verschijnen in je post over Jermaine en het bewijs. Niet dat ik je niet geloof natuurlijk 
Maar het leek me leuk om te zien.
Inderdaad weer een raar bericht over die inbraak. Weird...
Maar het leek me leuk om te zien.Inderdaad weer een raar bericht over die inbraak. Weird...
Gefixt!quote:Op zondag 7 maart 2010 19:22 schreef gifkwal het volgende:
Bloempje, ik zie helaas geen plaatje o.i.d. verschijnen in je post over Jermaine en het bewijs. Niet dat ik je niet geloof natuurlijk
Inderdaad weer een raar bericht over die inbraak. Weird...
quote:Op zondag 7 maart 2010 18:02 schreef piepie het volgende:
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Jermaine komt pas na de voorrondes in beeld ...
Hihihi vandaar
Je hoeft niet te schreeuwen als je je punt niet kan onderbouwen. Ik hoor je namelijk toch niet. O+
Oke ik heb ook even die SBS meuk teruggekeken, jammer hoe dat soort autisten ons als MJ-fans een slechte naam bezorgen maar er zaten ook wel een aantal leuke personen tussen.
Ik zat trouwens eens te denken he... stel dat de Memorial op DVD uitgebracht zou worden, zouden jullie die dan willen hebben? Ik bedoel die in het Staples Center. Voor mezelf weet ik het niet, ik heb het ook nooit meer teruggekeken want te verdrietig, maar aan de andere kant was het wel heel mooi.
ikzelf zou het niet willen hebben, maar dat komt omdat ik niet zoveel met souveniers heb. Ik vind het zelf ook voor mij vreemd om een memorial opnieuw te kijken. Of ik ben niet fan genoeg om dat te willenquote:Op zondag 7 maart 2010 23:58 schreef gifkwal het volgende:
Ik zat trouwens eens te denken he... stel dat de Memorial op DVD uitgebracht zou worden, zouden jullie die dan willen hebben? Ik bedoel die in het Staples Center. Voor mezelf weet ik het niet, ik heb het ook nooit meer teruggekeken want te verdrietig, maar aan de andere kant was het wel heel mooi.
Je hoeft niet te schreeuwen als je je punt niet kan onderbouwen. Ik hoor je namelijk toch niet. O+
Ik heb de memorial nog steeds op de harde schijf van mijn DVD-recorder, maar terugkijken heb ik nog nooit gedaan.
Moonwalk, dat heeft denk ik niks met wel of niet fan zijn te maken hoor. Het kan toch gewoon dat je daar geen behoefte aan hebt. Ik voorlopig ook niet, maar omdat ik het wel een mooie memorial vond is het wellicht toch interessant om als geheel op dvd te hebben.
Ik weet nog toen ik het live keek, bij dat stukje dat de kist binnenkwam met dat liedje "We are going to see the king" oid, godver...
Dat hoef ik voorlopig ook niet terug te zien.
Ik weet nog toen ik het live keek, bij dat stukje dat de kist binnenkwam met dat liedje "We are going to see the king" oid, godver...
Dat hoef ik voorlopig ook niet terug te zien.
Ik zou het zéker kopen op dvd ja. Heb het al 2x compleet teruggezien en zo af en toe pak ik er een stukje uit. Dan wil ik opeens een bepaald stukje speech kijken ofzo, of een bepaald stukje lied.
You will allways be my hero...
Leuke dingen weer gepost, zoals Jermaine in het Anne Frank Huis 
Ik zou de Memorial niet op DVD kopen, maar dat is meer omdat je het al op YT kan vinden.
Heb het inmiddels ook al twee keer in zijn geheel teruggekeken, en kijk af en toe nog stukjes, zoals Usher met Gone too Soon...
Oh en heb inmiddels een fotoprint besteld: deze, hoe vinden jullie hem, met zijn pinkie?
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Ik zou de Memorial niet op DVD kopen, maar dat is meer omdat je het al op YT kan vinden.
Heb het inmiddels ook al twee keer in zijn geheel teruggekeken, en kijk af en toe nog stukjes, zoals Usher met Gone too Soon...
Oh en heb inmiddels een fotoprint besteld: deze, hoe vinden jullie hem, met zijn pinkie?
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Jaaaa, heel erg, dank je. We waren een weekendje naar Haarlem, en hebben veeeel, heel veel gelopen. Zoals een hofjeswandeling, de winkels natuurlijk, en het Frans Hals Museum.
Op de terugweg nog even uitgestapt in Amsterdam, waar het poepiedruk was, en we het alweer snel hadden gezien.
En het weer zat mee, was heerlijk weer! Echt lekker, zo af en toe even eruit
Op de terugweg nog even uitgestapt in Amsterdam, waar het poepiedruk was, en we het alweer snel hadden gezien.
En het weer zat mee, was heerlijk weer! Echt lekker, zo af en toe even eruit
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Oh jaaa, ben nog nooit in Madam Tussauds geweest, wil er binnenkort heen, Michael kijken. Heb jij em wel eens gezien daar?
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Wat leuk, Haarlem! Daar zou ik best kunnen wonen, klein maar niet te klein, en een mooi centrum.
Ik ben iets van 15 jaar geleden in Madame Tussaud's geweest. Volgens mij leek Michael's beeld toen wel aardig, maar ik kan me er weinig van herinneren behalve dat hij in een soort draaiende kast stond en werd afgewisseld met Madonna. Waarschijnlijk hebben ze ondertussen wel een nieuw beeld. Wat ik me wel erg goed kan herinneren (maakte veel indruk) was zijn handafdruk in brons die ze daar hebben. Die enorme handen
Ik ben iets van 15 jaar geleden in Madame Tussaud's geweest. Volgens mij leek Michael's beeld toen wel aardig, maar ik kan me er weinig van herinneren behalve dat hij in een soort draaiende kast stond en werd afgewisseld met Madonna. Waarschijnlijk hebben ze ondertussen wel een nieuw beeld. Wat ik me wel erg goed kan herinneren (maakte veel indruk) was zijn handafdruk in brons die ze daar hebben. Die enorme handen
Ja, Haarlem is een toffe stad. Ik woon in Amersfoort, maar de binnenstad met al zijn monumenten is in Haarlem net iets groter, en het winkelaanbod is er ook leuker, meer soorten winkels.quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 10:07 schreef gifkwal het volgende:
Wat leuk, Haarlem! Daar zou ik best kunnen wonen, klein maar niet te klein, en een mooi centrum.
Ik ben iets van 15 jaar geleden in Madame Tussaud's geweest. Volgens mij leek Michael's beeld toen wel aardig, maar ik kan me er weinig van herinneren behalve dat hij in een soort draaiende kast stond en werd afgewisseld met Madonna. Waarschijnlijk hebben ze ondertussen wel een nieuw beeld. Wat ik me wel erg goed kan herinneren (maakte veel indruk) was zijn handafdruk in brons die ze daar hebben. Die enorme handen
Waaah, alleen voor zijn handafdruk wil ik er al heen.
Hij was zo super expressief met zijn handen.Wat een ontzettend tof filmpje, nog niet gezien.
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Amersfoort is ook erg mooi! Nou ja, ben er 1 keer geweest (behalve en paar keer naar de dierentuin daar) maar vond het ook een mooi centrum hebben.
Hoe groot wordt die fotoprint eigenlijk? Gewoon foto-formaat of iets groter? Ik wil eigenlijk ook wel iets van MJ ophangen, kijken of mijn vriend dat kan waarderen...
Hoe groot wordt die fotoprint eigenlijk? Gewoon foto-formaat of iets groter? Ik wil eigenlijk ook wel iets van MJ ophangen, kijken of mijn vriend dat kan waarderen...
Jawel Amersfoort heeft ook zeker een mooi centrum, maar ik ben erop uitgekeken.quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 10:15 schreef gifkwal het volgende:
Amersfoort is ook erg mooi! Nou ja, ben er 1 keer geweest (behalve en paar keer naar de dierentuin daar) maar vond het ook een mooi centrum hebben.
Hoe groot wordt die fotoprint eigenlijk? Gewoon foto-formaat of iets groter? Ik wil eigenlijk ook wel iets van MJ ophangen, kijken of mijn vriend dat kan waarderen...
Zal wel komen omdat ik in mijn leven veel verhuisd ben, woon hier nu al veel te lang. De fotoprint is 46 bij 61cm. Dus een aardige maat. Als je wil kijken: allposters.com. Je kan er kiezen uit 11 verschillende maten.
En ach, je vriend heeft dat vast wel voor je over?
Dat laatste filmpje: heerlijk he. Had ie vaker moeten doen, zeggen: go to hell.
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Mooi hoor, zo groot. Ik ga in juni even kijken, als het goed is is ons appartement dan verbouwd en dan zoek ik even een mooi plekje. Zo groot gaat het niet worden denk ik, mijn vriend vindt me nu al geobsedeerd.
Ik heb overigens wel eens foto's op posterformaat laten printen gewoon bij de Hema en AH, dat ging ook prima!
Ik heb overigens wel eens foto's op posterformaat laten printen gewoon bij de Hema en AH, dat ging ook prima!
De formaten kunnen dus ook kleiner.quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 10:31 schreef gifkwal het volgende:
Mooi hoor, zo groot. Ik ga in juni even kijken, als het goed is is ons appartement dan verbouwd en dan zoek ik even een mooi plekje. Zo groot gaat het niet worden denk ik, mijn vriend vindt me nu al geobsedeerd.
Ik heb overigens wel eens foto's op posterformaat laten printen gewoon bij de Hema en AH, dat ging ook prima!
Ja, dat was ik eerst ook van plan, een foto van de Bad Tour op die manier laten printen, maar dan waren, weet ik veel, het aantal pixels weer te klein, en dan ging het niet.
Nou ja, nu heb ik in ieder geval een mooi exemplaar.
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Ja dat is altijd lastig met foto's die je op internet vindt. Vindt je man het wel leuk? Haha.
Dit had ik zelf nog nooit gezien trouwens, misschien doe ik er iemand een plezier mee:
Dit had ik zelf nog nooit gezien trouwens, misschien doe ik er iemand een plezier mee:
Ik ben gescheiden, en woon alleen met mijn Siamese katquote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 10:48 schreef gifkwal het volgende:
Ja dat is altijd lastig met foto's die je op internet vindt. Vindt je man het wel leuk? Haha.
Dit had ik zelf nog nooit gezien trouwens, misschien doe ik er iemand een plezier mee:
En ach weet je...ik heb jarenlang een poster van de Beatles aan de muur gehad, en dat vond ook niemand vervelend...mijn exman en vriendjes waren allemaal muziekliefhebbers.
Is jouw vriend geen MJ liefhebber?
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Siamese katten zijn de bom!! Miauwt die van jou ook zo raar?quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 10:51 schreef Robijn48 het volgende:
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Ik ben gescheiden, en woon alleen met mijn Siamese kat
En ach weet je...ik heb jarenlang een poster van de Beatles aan de muur gehad, en dat vond ook niemand vervelend...mijn exman en vriendjes waren allemaal muziekliefhebbers.
Is jouw vriend geen MJ liefhebber?
Mijn vriend is meer van AC/DC en dat soort herrie
Ach, een klein foto'tje moet toch kunnen.
Jaaaa, soms maakt ie me gek. Maar ja, dat hoort bij het soort. Verder is ie heel leukquote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 11:01 schreef gifkwal het volgende:
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Siamese katten zijn de bom!! Miauwt die van jou ook zo raar?
Mijn vriend is meer van AC/DC en dat soort herrie
AC/DC?
Aaargh 
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Dat gekke gemauw zit niet alleen in siamesen hoor. Ik heb er ook twee waarvan ik soms niet weet waar het geluid in vredesnaam vandaan komt. En dat zijn twee HTK-katten.quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 11:03 schreef Robijn48 het volgende:
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Jaaaa, soms maakt ie me gek. Maar ja, dat hoort bij het soort. Verder is ie heel leuk
AC/DC?
Maar ze blijven lief
Wat is een HTK kat?quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 11:22 schreef bloempje-moi het volgende:
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Dat gekke gemauw zit niet alleen in siamesen hoor. Ik heb er ook twee waarvan ik soms niet weet waar het geluid in vredesnaam vandaan komt. En dat zijn twee HTK-katten.
Maar ze blijven lief
We zijn trouwens aardig off topic
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Huis, tuin en keuken kat. Hoewel het bij mij alleen huis-katten zijn. De keuken plunderen ze en een tuin heb ik nietquote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 11:23 schreef Robijn48 het volgende:
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Wat is een HTK kat?
We zijn trouwens aardig off topic
Heulemaal niet off-topic! Heal the world en save the animals, kijk in de mirror, begin bij jezelf en neem katten.
Peace!
kattenquote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 12:15 schreef bloempje-moi het volgende:
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Huis, tuin en keuken kat. Hoewel het bij mij alleen huis-katten zijn. De keuken plunderen ze en een tuin heb ik niet
Heulemaal niet off-topic! Heal the world en save the animals, kijk in de mirror, begin bij jezelf en neem katten.
honden
tevens tvp
A man said to the universe: 'Sir, I exist.'
'However', replied the universe. 'This fact has not created in me a sense of obligation.'
'However', replied the universe. 'This fact has not created in me a sense of obligation.'
Wij vroegen ons van de siamees vroeger af of hij wellicht de katten-variant van het Downsyndroom onder de lederen had, zo raar was dat beest. Maar onzettend lief en grappig, het liefst wil ik later weer een siamees.
Maar ik zal dit topic even proberen te reden na deze topic-wending van keuvelende huisvrouwtjes over hun katten
Charles Thomson - Michael Jackson: It's Time For Outlets to Take Responsibility in Covering the Rock Star
Michael Jackson: It's Time For Outlets to Take Responsibility in Covering the Rock Star
Charles Thomson, Huffington Post March 2 2010
Last week Michael Jackson's guitarist discredited widely reported allegations about the star's behaviour on the road. So why is the media refusing to publish her comments? British writer Charles Thomson explores media bias against black music's biggest star.
Aging glam-rocker Gene Simmons made international headlines last month when he claimed to know that Michael Jackson had molested children. In an interview with Classic Rock, Simmons alleged that Jackson was on tape ordering alcohol for children and that during the star's 2005 trial a travel agent had testified to importing Brazilian boys for Jackson's amusement. He also claimed that a musician friend had quit a Jackson tour after seeing 'boys coming out of the hotel rooms.'
What followed was a classic example of copy and paste journalism. Within hours the story had been duplicated by hundreds of blogs, forums and news websites from Australia to India to the USA. None of them had fact-checked the story before they re-hosted it. Jackson was never on tape ordering alcohol for children. There was never any testimony during his trial about young Brazilian boys. Both of these claims were easily disproven by trial transcripts.
As a relative Jackson expert, I was also unaware of any musician ever leaving one of the singer's tours midway through. So when I sat down a fortnight ago for an interview with Jackson's long serving tour guitarist Jennifer Batten, I ran the story by her.
She told me that no musician had ever quit a Jackson tour. Two musicians had been fired but both were let go before the show hit the road, so they couldn't possibly have witnessed anything going on inside hotels.
When Sawf News published Batten's rebuttal I observed an all too familiar phenomenon. Although the story appeared on Google News and was picked up fairly swiftly by the Examiner, nobody else seemed willing to touch it. Whilst Simmons's speculative and ultimately baseless accusations had been reproduced the world over, Batten's expert rebuttal was being suppressed.
I soon began receiving emails from Jackson's fans telling me that they were sending the story to every celebrity news outlet they could think of, including several of those which published Simmons's initial allegations.
But more than 48 hours later, typing an exact quote from Simmons's rant into a search engine produced almost 350 webpages. The number of news outlets hosting Batten's rebuttal? Three.
This was not the first time I'd had a Jackson story suppressed. After Evan Chandler's suicide in November 2009 I was contacted by the Sun and asked to supply information about the 1993 allegations. I spent quite some time compiling my research, advising the newspaper of common myths and how to avoid them, being careful to source all of my facts from legal documents and audio/visual evidence.
When I read the finished article I was stunned to find that all of my information had been discarded and replaced with the very myths I had advised them to avoid. I alerted staff to the inaccuracies but my emails were not replied. The same inaccuracies appeared in every single article I read about the suicide.
The same bias manifested itself the following month when Jackson's FBI file was released. Across more than 300 pages of information there was not one piece of incriminating evidence -- but that's not the way the media told it.
A videotape seized at customs in West Palm Beach and analysed for child pornography was repeatedly referred to as belonging to Jackson. In actuality, files stated merely that the tape was 'connected' to Jackson and that connection appeared simply to be that somebody had written his name on the sticky label.
In another document the FBI logged a telephone call from a tipster claiming that the bureau had investigated Jackson during the 1980s for molesting two Mexican boys. The files made no other mention of the supposed investigation and the claim was ascribed no validity -- the call was merely noted. But the media persistently referred to the anonymous tipster's unsupported allegations as the FBI's own conclusions.
Jackson's FBI file overwhelmingly supported his innocence but its contents were routinely manipulated to give the opposite impression.
Many are quick to scoff when Jackson's fans speak of a media conspiracy to destroy the star's reputation and I used to scoff with them. As a member of the industry I prefer not to think of it as sinister and conspiratorial, but I find it increasingly difficult to explain away the bias with which Jackson is treated.
I wonder whether the problem is pride. When the 1993 allegations broke, the vast majority of information available was released, either officially or unofficially, by the prosecution. Jackson, meanwhile, remained characteristically silent.
Perhaps because the prosecution's version of events went almost completely unchallenged (although I imagine that drama and selling newspapers had something to do with it, too), the media primarily chose to portray Jackson as guilty.
But as the facts started to trickle out it became increasingly apparent that the case was full of holes. The allegations had been instigated not by the boy but by his father, who had demanded a scriptwriting deal from Jackson before he went to the police. He was on tape plotting to destroy Jackson's career and dismissing his son's wellbeing as 'irrelevant'. Then the boy told cops that Jackson was circumcised, but a police body search concluded that he was not.
Although Jackson's innocence looked increasingly likely, most news outlets had made their bed and to this day they seem unwilling to do anything but lie in it.
Whatever the motivation, be it pride, profit or plain old racism, the bias against Jackson is undeniable. The suppression of Batten's comments proves once more than when it comes to Jackson the media is interested not in fact or reason but negativity and sensationalism. Batten accompanied Jackson on all three of his world tours and was known for a decade as his 'right hand woman'. But Simmons -- who self-confessedly did not know Jackson -- has been given over 100 times more media coverage for his inaccurate ranting than Batten has for her firsthand experience.
It is time for outlets to assume responsibility for their own content. Websites should not re-host other publishers' stories unless they can be completely certain that the content is factual. Even if the media refuses to print the truth about Jackson, they should compromise by not printing the lies either. At least that way he can rest in peace.
Maar ik zal dit topic even proberen te reden na deze topic-wending van keuvelende huisvrouwtjes over hun katten
Charles Thomson - Michael Jackson: It's Time For Outlets to Take Responsibility in Covering the Rock Star
Michael Jackson: It's Time For Outlets to Take Responsibility in Covering the Rock Star
Charles Thomson, Huffington Post March 2 2010
Last week Michael Jackson's guitarist discredited widely reported allegations about the star's behaviour on the road. So why is the media refusing to publish her comments? British writer Charles Thomson explores media bias against black music's biggest star.
Aging glam-rocker Gene Simmons made international headlines last month when he claimed to know that Michael Jackson had molested children. In an interview with Classic Rock, Simmons alleged that Jackson was on tape ordering alcohol for children and that during the star's 2005 trial a travel agent had testified to importing Brazilian boys for Jackson's amusement. He also claimed that a musician friend had quit a Jackson tour after seeing 'boys coming out of the hotel rooms.'
What followed was a classic example of copy and paste journalism. Within hours the story had been duplicated by hundreds of blogs, forums and news websites from Australia to India to the USA. None of them had fact-checked the story before they re-hosted it. Jackson was never on tape ordering alcohol for children. There was never any testimony during his trial about young Brazilian boys. Both of these claims were easily disproven by trial transcripts.
As a relative Jackson expert, I was also unaware of any musician ever leaving one of the singer's tours midway through. So when I sat down a fortnight ago for an interview with Jackson's long serving tour guitarist Jennifer Batten, I ran the story by her.
She told me that no musician had ever quit a Jackson tour. Two musicians had been fired but both were let go before the show hit the road, so they couldn't possibly have witnessed anything going on inside hotels.
When Sawf News published Batten's rebuttal I observed an all too familiar phenomenon. Although the story appeared on Google News and was picked up fairly swiftly by the Examiner, nobody else seemed willing to touch it. Whilst Simmons's speculative and ultimately baseless accusations had been reproduced the world over, Batten's expert rebuttal was being suppressed.
I soon began receiving emails from Jackson's fans telling me that they were sending the story to every celebrity news outlet they could think of, including several of those which published Simmons's initial allegations.
But more than 48 hours later, typing an exact quote from Simmons's rant into a search engine produced almost 350 webpages. The number of news outlets hosting Batten's rebuttal? Three.
This was not the first time I'd had a Jackson story suppressed. After Evan Chandler's suicide in November 2009 I was contacted by the Sun and asked to supply information about the 1993 allegations. I spent quite some time compiling my research, advising the newspaper of common myths and how to avoid them, being careful to source all of my facts from legal documents and audio/visual evidence.
When I read the finished article I was stunned to find that all of my information had been discarded and replaced with the very myths I had advised them to avoid. I alerted staff to the inaccuracies but my emails were not replied. The same inaccuracies appeared in every single article I read about the suicide.
The same bias manifested itself the following month when Jackson's FBI file was released. Across more than 300 pages of information there was not one piece of incriminating evidence -- but that's not the way the media told it.
A videotape seized at customs in West Palm Beach and analysed for child pornography was repeatedly referred to as belonging to Jackson. In actuality, files stated merely that the tape was 'connected' to Jackson and that connection appeared simply to be that somebody had written his name on the sticky label.
In another document the FBI logged a telephone call from a tipster claiming that the bureau had investigated Jackson during the 1980s for molesting two Mexican boys. The files made no other mention of the supposed investigation and the claim was ascribed no validity -- the call was merely noted. But the media persistently referred to the anonymous tipster's unsupported allegations as the FBI's own conclusions.
Jackson's FBI file overwhelmingly supported his innocence but its contents were routinely manipulated to give the opposite impression.
Many are quick to scoff when Jackson's fans speak of a media conspiracy to destroy the star's reputation and I used to scoff with them. As a member of the industry I prefer not to think of it as sinister and conspiratorial, but I find it increasingly difficult to explain away the bias with which Jackson is treated.
I wonder whether the problem is pride. When the 1993 allegations broke, the vast majority of information available was released, either officially or unofficially, by the prosecution. Jackson, meanwhile, remained characteristically silent.
Perhaps because the prosecution's version of events went almost completely unchallenged (although I imagine that drama and selling newspapers had something to do with it, too), the media primarily chose to portray Jackson as guilty.
But as the facts started to trickle out it became increasingly apparent that the case was full of holes. The allegations had been instigated not by the boy but by his father, who had demanded a scriptwriting deal from Jackson before he went to the police. He was on tape plotting to destroy Jackson's career and dismissing his son's wellbeing as 'irrelevant'. Then the boy told cops that Jackson was circumcised, but a police body search concluded that he was not.
Although Jackson's innocence looked increasingly likely, most news outlets had made their bed and to this day they seem unwilling to do anything but lie in it.
Whatever the motivation, be it pride, profit or plain old racism, the bias against Jackson is undeniable. The suppression of Batten's comments proves once more than when it comes to Jackson the media is interested not in fact or reason but negativity and sensationalism. Batten accompanied Jackson on all three of his world tours and was known for a decade as his 'right hand woman'. But Simmons -- who self-confessedly did not know Jackson -- has been given over 100 times more media coverage for his inaccurate ranting than Batten has for her firsthand experience.
It is time for outlets to assume responsibility for their own content. Websites should not re-host other publishers' stories unless they can be completely certain that the content is factual. Even if the media refuses to print the truth about Jackson, they should compromise by not printing the lies either. At least that way he can rest in peace.
OOH ja, tuurlijk, een huis tuin en keuken kat.quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 12:15 schreef bloempje-moi het volgende:
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Huis, tuin en keuken kat. Hoewel het bij mij alleen huis-katten zijn. De keuken plunderen ze en een tuin heb ik niet
Heulemaal niet off-topic! Heal the world en save the animals, kijk in de mirror, begin bij jezelf en neem katten.
Om die laatste zin moest ik erg lachen
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Zo ging het dus, al die jaren. Arme Michael.quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 15:58 schreef gifkwal het volgende:
Wij vroegen ons van de siamees vroeger af of hij wellicht de katten-variant van het Downsyndroom onder de lederen had, zo raar was dat beest. Maar onzettend lief en grappig, het liefst wil ik later weer een siamees.
Maar ik zal dit topic even proberen te reden na deze topic-wending van keuvelende huisvrouwtjes over hun katten
Charles Thomson - Michael Jackson: It's Time For Outlets to Take Responsibility in Covering the Rock Star
Michael Jackson: It's Time For Outlets to Take Responsibility in Covering the Rock Star
Charles Thomson, Huffington Post March 2 2010
Last week Michael Jackson's guitarist discredited widely reported allegations about the star's behaviour on the road. So why is the media refusing to publish her comments? British writer Charles Thomson explores media bias against black music's biggest star.
Aging glam-rocker Gene Simmons made international headlines last month when he claimed to know that Michael Jackson had molested children. In an interview with Classic Rock, Simmons alleged that Jackson was on tape ordering alcohol for children and that during the star's 2005 trial a travel agent had testified to importing Brazilian boys for Jackson's amusement. He also claimed that a musician friend had quit a Jackson tour after seeing 'boys coming out of the hotel rooms.'
What followed was a classic example of copy and paste journalism. Within hours the story had been duplicated by hundreds of blogs, forums and news websites from Australia to India to the USA. None of them had fact-checked the story before they re-hosted it. Jackson was never on tape ordering alcohol for children. There was never any testimony during his trial about young Brazilian boys. Both of these claims were easily disproven by trial transcripts.
As a relative Jackson expert, I was also unaware of any musician ever leaving one of the singer's tours midway through. So when I sat down a fortnight ago for an interview with Jackson's long serving tour guitarist Jennifer Batten, I ran the story by her.
She told me that no musician had ever quit a Jackson tour. Two musicians had been fired but both were let go before the show hit the road, so they couldn't possibly have witnessed anything going on inside hotels.
When Sawf News published Batten's rebuttal I observed an all too familiar phenomenon. Although the story appeared on Google News and was picked up fairly swiftly by the Examiner, nobody else seemed willing to touch it. Whilst Simmons's speculative and ultimately baseless accusations had been reproduced the world over, Batten's expert rebuttal was being suppressed.
I soon began receiving emails from Jackson's fans telling me that they were sending the story to every celebrity news outlet they could think of, including several of those which published Simmons's initial allegations.
But more than 48 hours later, typing an exact quote from Simmons's rant into a search engine produced almost 350 webpages. The number of news outlets hosting Batten's rebuttal? Three.
This was not the first time I'd had a Jackson story suppressed. After Evan Chandler's suicide in November 2009 I was contacted by the Sun and asked to supply information about the 1993 allegations. I spent quite some time compiling my research, advising the newspaper of common myths and how to avoid them, being careful to source all of my facts from legal documents and audio/visual evidence.
When I read the finished article I was stunned to find that all of my information had been discarded and replaced with the very myths I had advised them to avoid. I alerted staff to the inaccuracies but my emails were not replied. The same inaccuracies appeared in every single article I read about the suicide.
The same bias manifested itself the following month when Jackson's FBI file was released. Across more than 300 pages of information there was not one piece of incriminating evidence -- but that's not the way the media told it.
A videotape seized at customs in West Palm Beach and analysed for child pornography was repeatedly referred to as belonging to Jackson. In actuality, files stated merely that the tape was 'connected' to Jackson and that connection appeared simply to be that somebody had written his name on the sticky label.
In another document the FBI logged a telephone call from a tipster claiming that the bureau had investigated Jackson during the 1980s for molesting two Mexican boys. The files made no other mention of the supposed investigation and the claim was ascribed no validity -- the call was merely noted. But the media persistently referred to the anonymous tipster's unsupported allegations as the FBI's own conclusions.
Jackson's FBI file overwhelmingly supported his innocence but its contents were routinely manipulated to give the opposite impression.
Many are quick to scoff when Jackson's fans speak of a media conspiracy to destroy the star's reputation and I used to scoff with them. As a member of the industry I prefer not to think of it as sinister and conspiratorial, but I find it increasingly difficult to explain away the bias with which Jackson is treated.
I wonder whether the problem is pride. When the 1993 allegations broke, the vast majority of information available was released, either officially or unofficially, by the prosecution. Jackson, meanwhile, remained characteristically silent.
Perhaps because the prosecution's version of events went almost completely unchallenged (although I imagine that drama and selling newspapers had something to do with it, too), the media primarily chose to portray Jackson as guilty.
But as the facts started to trickle out it became increasingly apparent that the case was full of holes. The allegations had been instigated not by the boy but by his father, who had demanded a scriptwriting deal from Jackson before he went to the police. He was on tape plotting to destroy Jackson's career and dismissing his son's wellbeing as 'irrelevant'. Then the boy told cops that Jackson was circumcised, but a police body search concluded that he was not.
Although Jackson's innocence looked increasingly likely, most news outlets had made their bed and to this day they seem unwilling to do anything but lie in it.
Whatever the motivation, be it pride, profit or plain old racism, the bias against Jackson is undeniable. The suppression of Batten's comments proves once more than when it comes to Jackson the media is interested not in fact or reason but negativity and sensationalism. Batten accompanied Jackson on all three of his world tours and was known for a decade as his 'right hand woman'. But Simmons -- who self-confessedly did not know Jackson -- has been given over 100 times more media coverage for his inaccurate ranting than Batten has for her firsthand experience.
It is time for outlets to assume responsibility for their own content. Websites should not re-host other publishers' stories unless they can be completely certain that the content is factual. Even if the media refuses to print the truth about Jackson, they should compromise by not printing the lies either. At least that way he can rest in peace.
Gene Simmons, dat was toch niet die frontman van Kiss, ook?
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Ja, dacht het wel. Hij daalt meteen met -10 op mijn sympathie-meterquote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 16:13 schreef Robijn48 het volgende:
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Zo ging het dus, al die jaren. Arme Michael.
Gene Simmons, dat was toch niet die frontman van Kiss, ook?
Wat bezielt het mensen toch om zulke verhalen de wereld in te brengen...
Morgen een interview met Michael's bodyguards op ABC. Op de site al wat voorproefjes.
quote:Jackson, who died June 25 after taking a lethal cocktail of prescription drugs and propofol, a powerful anesthetic typically used in the operating room, could also fly into rages, belying the soft-spoken demeanor he showed in public.
"He got so frustrated he threw my cell phone out the window, through the window and broke the glass," Whitfield said. "And he looked at me and said, 'Bill, you're going to need a new phone."
The bodyguards were also charged with protecting Jackson and his children from seeing images of the pop icon that were splashed across the front of magazines.
"I'll be ahead of him, because I know he's coming this way, and I'm looking at magazine racks that may have something about him on them and I'll turn it around," Whitfield said. "Sometimes he's seen them, and you would actually see him take it and turn them around so the kids didn't see them."
Wat gaafquote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 17:53 schreef gifkwal het volgende:
Morgen een interview met Michael's bodyguards op ABC. Op de site al wat voorproefjes.
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En dit valt misschien niet bij iedereen goed, maar ik lag helemaal in een deuk
Life is a waste of time, time is a waste of life. Get wasted all the time and you'll have the time of your life!
Gif, ontzettend bedankt hiervoor. Zulke dingen over Michael zijn juist heel interessant en zoek ik altijd naarquote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 17:53 schreef gifkwal het volgende:
Morgen een interview met Michael's bodyguards op ABC. Op de site al wat voorproefjes.
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(mits er de waarheid gesproken wordt natuurlijk, maar daar gaan we van uit)Kan me trouwens heel goed voorstellen dat hij af en toe zijn geduld verloor, hij was vaak veel te ingetogen om goed te zijn voor een mens...
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Vind het flauw, en zeer voor de hand liggend.quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 19:38 schreef JX het volgende:
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Wat gaaf
En dit valt misschien niet bij iedereen goed, maar ik lag helemaal in een deuk
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Michael was in 1996 of 1997 in Madame Tussaud. Iemand die ik toen kende was naar binnen gesneakt en Michael stond bij Vincent van Gogh. Zei vroeg aan Michael of hij hem kende. Toen zei hij een beetje verontwaardigd: I know my artquote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 09:55 schreef Robijn48 het volgende:
Oh jaaa, ben nog nooit in Madam Tussauds geweest, wil er binnenkort heen, Michael kijken. Heb jij em wel eens gezien daar?
You will allways be my hero...
Haha! Tja, hij scheen zelfs Jung en Heidegger en zo te lezen, volgens mij had hij wel veel verstand van dat soort dingen.quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 20:12 schreef MJ44ever het volgende:
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Michael was in 1996 of 1997 in Madame Tussaud. Iemand die ik toen kende was naar binnen gesneakt en Michael stond bij Vincent van Gogh. Zei vroeg aan Michael of hij hem kende. Toen zei hij een beetje verontwaardigd: I know my art
quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 10:17 schreef gifkwal het volgende:
Dit vind ik trouwens ook een heerlijk filmpje.. haha
Zo werkt de media dus, maar dat wisten we al.quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 16:55 schreef gifkwal het volgende:
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Ja, dacht het wel. Hij daalt meteen met -10 op mijn sympathie-meter
Ze nemen klakkeloos alles van elkaar over.
Arme Michael, the story of his live ..
En die Gene Simmons die moeten ze opsluiten in een gesticht, griezel ....
Goed tegenartikel was dat trouwens !!!
Haha, zei hij dat? Ja, ik geloof ook dat hij zeker wel het nodige van kunst afwist. Volgens Paris (als het waar is, he) wilde hij eind dit jaar een kunstopleiding beginnen...quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 20:12 schreef MJ44ever het volgende:
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Michael was in 1996 of 1997 in Madame Tussaud. Iemand die ik toen kende was naar binnen gesneakt en Michael stond bij Vincent van Gogh. Zei vroeg aan Michael of hij hem kende. Toen zei hij een beetje verontwaardigd: I know my art
Ben trouwens jaloers op die kennis van je.
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Tof!quote:Op maandag 8 maart 2010 09:41 schreef Robijn48 het volgende:
Leuke dingen weer gepost, zoals Jermaine in het Anne Frank Huis
Ik zou de Memorial niet op DVD kopen, maar dat is meer omdat je het al op YT kan vinden.
Heb het inmiddels ook al twee keer in zijn geheel teruggekeken, en kijk af en toe nog stukjes, zoals Usher met Gone too Soon...
Oh en heb inmiddels een fotoprint besteld: deze, hoe vinden jullie hem, met zijn pinkie?
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Op welke site heb je gezocht?
Dank je, de site is: www.allposters.comquote:Op dinsdag 9 maart 2010 01:13 schreef TheGeneral het volgende:
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Tof!
Op welke site heb je gezocht?
Zal misschien wel weer verwijderd worden, maar wat een grote jas
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Misschien had hij die net van een fan gekregen ofzoquote:Op dinsdag 9 maart 2010 11:30 schreef Robijn48 het volgende:
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Dank je, de site is: www.allposters.com
Zal misschien wel weer verwijderd worden, maar wat een grote jas
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"MAIKOOL MAIKOOL AI MEED THIS FOR YOE !"Dan is hij altijd wel zo leuk om het aan te trekken, aan te nemen enz hahahaha
Als die jas wel al van hem was vind ik het wel een beetje mal haha
Je hoeft niet te schreeuwen als je je punt niet kan onderbouwen. Ik hoor je namelijk toch niet. O+
Ik vind dat zo mooi he, hoe hij altijd toch even tijd maakte voor fans en cadeautjes aannam
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Af en toe blijf ik ff denken dat hij nog leeft 
Edit: ik schreef weer eens in tegenwoordige tijd
Af en toe blijf ik ff denken dat hij nog leeft
Life is a waste of time, time is a waste of life. Get wasted all the time and you'll have the time of your life!
Nog een leuk artikel.
Dale Dauten Arizona Daily Star | Posted: Tuesday, March 9, 2010 12:00 am
Michael Jackson: See a superb leader at work
"We're bringing things into this that haven't been developed. . . . We're working with scientists in the Netherlands . . . all trying to push boundaries, because that's what Michael is all about."
That's not a line from an R&D guy or a new-products engineer; it's from a wardrobe designer named Zaldy, talking about his work for Michael Jackson. It's in the recently released video of the documentary "This Is It." (If you haven't been paying attention, the documentary is made from footage of the rehearsals for what was to have been Jackson's touring show.) Watching it got me thinking about how fully Jackson fit the profile of great bosses that I've been developing throughout the past couple of decades. OK, his personal life was bizarre and misguided, and I suppose we could say it killed him, but there on stage, he was efficient, guided and guiding, a master at work - not just a master performer, but an uplifting manager.
Like all of the great managers I've studied, the ones I came to call "gifted bosses," he was conscious of creating something special. And he made everyone else fully conscious of it, too. There was never a "good enough" moment. Indeed, we get to watch as a choreographer and dancers have a lively exchange about how to properly do a crotch-grab during one dance number, and the choreographer, without irony, explains how a Baryshnikov would have done it.
And in another scene, we encounter another of our Great Moments in Management. Jackson is working with his musical director, who plays him a bit of a song. Jackson says: "Pretty good. Pretty good." And that is all it takes for it to be tossed out. Then the music director offers a new variation; Jackson opines that the rhythm needs to "simmer," to which the response is: "Let's add a bar. See what we get, simmerwise." And they experiment until it's just right.
I love that exchange, because it shows what happens when everyone is committed to creating the terrific. "Pretty good" is an insult. It's as if the team leader had said, "It's good enough for other people, but not us." And the team believes it, without question or apology. We see the same spirit when the pyrotechnics guy demonstrates the fireworks above the stage and the director says, "Can we do that, times 10?" And the answer is, with delight, 'Absolutely.' "
It would be easy for the fireworks tech to say, "Hey, that's what's in the specs" or, bigger picture, to say, "Hey, it's just a music concert." That would be as easy as telling Steve Jobs to relax, it's just a music player or cell phone that he's working on. But nowhere in "This Is It" is a hint of that "it's only" thinking. Every crotch-grab is important, every firework, every guitar solo. The wardrobe designer I mentioned earlier was working with scientists in the Netherlands on wearable lights. If they weren't there, would anyone notice and be disappointed? Of course not. What we see in the documentary, and what I've seen in the best workplaces, is a culture in which the work is not about the audience, market or customers; it's about taking talent and taking off with it, luring it into the unknown, playing with the extraordinary for the sheer joy of being part of something that's better than it has to be.
And that's exactly what elevates the best business endeavors - the joy of exploration into the frontier: better than it has to be.
Dale Dauten is co-founder of AgreementHouse.com Write to him in care of King Features Syndicate, 300 W. 57th St., 15th floor, New York, NY 10019, or at dale@dauten.com
Dale Dauten Arizona Daily Star | Posted: Tuesday, March 9, 2010 12:00 am
Michael Jackson: See a superb leader at work
"We're bringing things into this that haven't been developed. . . . We're working with scientists in the Netherlands . . . all trying to push boundaries, because that's what Michael is all about."
That's not a line from an R&D guy or a new-products engineer; it's from a wardrobe designer named Zaldy, talking about his work for Michael Jackson. It's in the recently released video of the documentary "This Is It." (If you haven't been paying attention, the documentary is made from footage of the rehearsals for what was to have been Jackson's touring show.) Watching it got me thinking about how fully Jackson fit the profile of great bosses that I've been developing throughout the past couple of decades. OK, his personal life was bizarre and misguided, and I suppose we could say it killed him, but there on stage, he was efficient, guided and guiding, a master at work - not just a master performer, but an uplifting manager.
Like all of the great managers I've studied, the ones I came to call "gifted bosses," he was conscious of creating something special. And he made everyone else fully conscious of it, too. There was never a "good enough" moment. Indeed, we get to watch as a choreographer and dancers have a lively exchange about how to properly do a crotch-grab during one dance number, and the choreographer, without irony, explains how a Baryshnikov would have done it.
And in another scene, we encounter another of our Great Moments in Management. Jackson is working with his musical director, who plays him a bit of a song. Jackson says: "Pretty good. Pretty good." And that is all it takes for it to be tossed out. Then the music director offers a new variation; Jackson opines that the rhythm needs to "simmer," to which the response is: "Let's add a bar. See what we get, simmerwise." And they experiment until it's just right.
I love that exchange, because it shows what happens when everyone is committed to creating the terrific. "Pretty good" is an insult. It's as if the team leader had said, "It's good enough for other people, but not us." And the team believes it, without question or apology. We see the same spirit when the pyrotechnics guy demonstrates the fireworks above the stage and the director says, "Can we do that, times 10?" And the answer is, with delight, 'Absolutely.' "
It would be easy for the fireworks tech to say, "Hey, that's what's in the specs" or, bigger picture, to say, "Hey, it's just a music concert." That would be as easy as telling Steve Jobs to relax, it's just a music player or cell phone that he's working on. But nowhere in "This Is It" is a hint of that "it's only" thinking. Every crotch-grab is important, every firework, every guitar solo. The wardrobe designer I mentioned earlier was working with scientists in the Netherlands on wearable lights. If they weren't there, would anyone notice and be disappointed? Of course not. What we see in the documentary, and what I've seen in the best workplaces, is a culture in which the work is not about the audience, market or customers; it's about taking talent and taking off with it, luring it into the unknown, playing with the extraordinary for the sheer joy of being part of something that's better than it has to be.
And that's exactly what elevates the best business endeavors - the joy of exploration into the frontier: better than it has to be.
Dale Dauten is co-founder of AgreementHouse.com Write to him in care of King Features Syndicate, 300 W. 57th St., 15th floor, New York, NY 10019, or at dale@dauten.com
Stom is dat he... Ik betrap mezelf er nog wel eens op dat ik denk "Als ik ooit MJ ontmoet..."quote:Op dinsdag 9 maart 2010 13:50 schreef JX het volgende:
Ik vind dat zo mooi he, hoe hij altijd toch even tijd maakte voor fans en cadeautjes aannam
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