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Dit zou de speech van Wilders geweest kunnen zijn:

GEERT WILDERS' SPEECH IN HOUSE OF LORDS IF HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BANNED FROM THE UNITED KINGDOM
vrijdag 13 februari 2009

London, Feb. 12, 2009

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much.

Thank you for inviting me. Thank you Lord Pearson and Lady Cox for showing Fitna, and for your gracious invitation. While others look away, you, seem to understand the true tradition of your country, and a flag that still stands for freedom.
This is no ordinary place. This is not just one of England’s tourist attractions. This is a sacred place. This is the mother of all Parliaments, and I am deeply humbled to speak before you.

The Houses of Parliament is where Winston Churchill stood firm, and warned – all throughout the 1930’s – for the dangers looming. Most of the time he stood alone.

In 1982 President Reagan came to the House of Commons, where he did a speech very few people liked. Reagan called upon the West to reject communism and defend freedom. He introduced a phrase: ‘evil empire’. Reagan’s speech stands out as a clarion call to preserve our liberties. I quote: If history teaches anything, it teaches self-delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly.

What Reagan meant is that you cannot run away from history, you cannot escape the dangers of ideologies that are out to destroy you. Denial is no option.

Communism was indeed left on the ash heap of history, just as Reagan predicted in his speech in the House of Commons. He lived to see the Berlin Wall coming down, just as Churchill witnessed the implosion of national-socialism.

Today, I come before you to warn of another great threat. It is called Islam. It poses as a religion, but its goals are very worldly: world domination, holy war, sharia law, the end of the separation of church and state, the end of democracy. It is not a religion, it is a political ideology. It demands your respect, but has no respect for you.

There might be moderate Muslims, but there is no moderate Islam. Islam will never change, because it is build on two rocks that are forever, two fundamental beliefs that will never change, and will never go away. First, there is Quran, Allah’s personal word, uncreated, forever, with orders that need to be fulfilled regardless of place or time. And second, there is al-insal al-kamil, the perfect man, Muhammad the role model, whose deeds are to be imitated by all Muslims. And since Muhammad was a warlord and a conqueror we know what to expect.

Islam means submission, so there cannot be any mistake about it’s goal. That’s a given. The question is whether the British people, with its glorious past, is longing for that submission.

We see Islam taking off in the West at an incredible speed. The United Kingdom has seen a rapid growth of the number of Muslims. Over the last ten years, the Muslim population has grown ten times as fast as the rest of society. This has put an enormous pressure on society. Thanks to British politicians who have forgotten about Winston Churchill, the English now have taken the path of least resistance. They give up. They give in.

Thank you very much for letting me into the country. I received a letter from the Secretary of State for the Home Department, kindly disinviting me. I would threaten community relations, and therefore public security in the UK, the letter stated.
For a moment I feared that I would be refused entrance. But I was confident the British government would never sacrifice free speech because of fear of Islam. Britannia rules the waves, and Islam will never rule Britain, so I was confident the Border Agency would let me through. And after all, you have invited stranger creatures than me. Two years ago the House of Commons welcomed Mahmoud Suliman Ahmed Abu Rideh, linked to Al Qaeda. He was invited to Westminster by Lord Ahmed, who met him at Regent’s Park mosque three weeks before. Mr. Rideh, suspected of being a money man for terror groups, was given a SECURITY sticker for his Parliamentary visit.

Well, if you let in this man, than an elected politician from a fellow EU country surely is welcome here too. By letting me speak today you show that Mr Churchill’s spirit is still very much alive. And you prove that the European Union truly is working; the free movement of persons is still one of the pillars of the European project.

But there is still much work to be done. Britain seems to have become a country ruled by fear. A country where civil servants cancel Christmas celebrations to please Muslims. A country where Sharia Courts are part of the legal system. A country where Islamic organizations asked to stop the commemoration of the Holocaust. A country where a primary school cancels a Christmas nativity play because it interfered with an Islamic festival. A country where a school removes the words Christmas and Easter from their calendar so as not to offend Muslims. A country where a teacher punishes two students for refusing to pray to Allah as part of their religious education class. A country where elected members of a town council are told not to eat during daylight hours in town hall meetings during the Ramadan. A country that excels in its hatred of Israel, still the only democracy in the Middle-East. A country whose capitol is becoming ‘Londonistan’.

I would not qualify myself as a free man. Four and a half years ago I lost my freedom. I am under guard permanently, courtesy to those who prefer violence to debate. But for the leftist fan club of islam, that is not enough. They started a legal procedure against me. Three weeks ago the Amsterdam Court of Appeal ordered my criminal prosecution for making ‘Fitna’ and for my views on Islam. I committed what George Orwell called a ‘thought crime’.

You might have seen my name on Fitna’s credit role, but I am not really responsible for that movie. It was made for me. It was actually produced by Muslim extremists, the Quran and Islam itself. If Fitna is considered ‘hate speech’, then how would the Court qualify the Quran, with all it’s calls for violence, and hatred against women and Jews?
Mr. Churchill himself compared the Quran to Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf. Well, I did exactly the same, and that is what they are prosecuting me for.

I wonder if the UK ever put Mr. Churchill on trail.

The Court’s decision and the letter I received form the Secretary of State for the Home Department are two major victories for all those who detest freedom of speech. They are doing Islam’s dirty work. Sharia by proxy. The differences between Saudi-Arabia and Jordan on one hand and Holland and Britain are blurring. Europe is now on the fast track of becoming Eurabia. That is apparently the price we have to pay for the project of mass immigration, and the multicultural project.

Ladies and gentlemen, the dearest of our many freedoms is under attack. In Europe, freedom of speech is no longer a given. What we once considered a natural component of our existence is now something we again have to fight for. That is what is at stake. Whether or not I end up in jail is not the most pressing issue. The question is: Will free speech be put behind bars?

We have to defend freedom of speech.

For the generation of my parents the word ‘London’ is synonymous with hope and freedom. When my country was occupied by the national-socialists the BBC offered a daily glimpse of hope, in the darkness of Nazi tyranny. Millions of my country men listened to it, illegally. The words ‘This Is London’ were a symbol for a better world coming soon. If only the British and Canadian and American soldiers were here.

What will be transmitted forty years from now? Will it still be ‘This Is London’? Or will it be ‘this is Londonistan’? Will it bring us hope, or will it signal the values of Mecca and Medina? Will Britain offer submission or perseverance? Freedom or slavery?

The choice is ours.

Ladies and gentlemen,

We will never apologize for being free. We will never give in. We will never surrender.

Freedom must prevail, and freedom will prevail.

Thank you very much.


Geert Wilders MP
Chairman, Party for Freedom (PVV)
The Netherlands

Hoe groot kan je gelijk zijn!!! en wat schijten de dhimmie's weer in hun pants
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 15:17 schreef Chadi het volgende:

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Vooral de domme en gefrustreerde reacties van PVV lui
Je had domme en gefrustreerde er echt niet bij hoeven zetten hoor, dat snappen wij nou ook wel.
  vrijdag 13 februari 2009 @ 15:29:15 #183
140043 Isdatzo
Born in the echoes.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 15:09 schreef Refragmental het volgende:

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Maarja, jij bent iemand van het principe "oog om oog, tand om tand" getuige je eerdere reactie in dit topic.
Je zult je daarom waarschijnlijk goed thuis voelen bij dat volk
"Oog om oog, tand om tand"? Leg eens uit.

Eerder: gelijke monniken, gelijke kappen.
Huilen dan.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 15:17 schreef Chadi het volgende:

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Vooral de domme en gefrustreerde reacties van PVV lui
Inderdaad, PVV lui uit London, Chennai, New York, Indonesie, West Yourshire, Florida, Quebec, Praag, Antalya, California, Georgia, Syrië, Koeweit, Puerto Rico, Schotland, Beunos Aires, India, St Maarten, Polen, Saudi Arabie, Toronto, Malysie, etc.

PVV is flink internationaal aan het groeien

God wat een domme reacties weer van de anti-wilders figuren
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 15:29 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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"Oog om oog, tand om tand"? Leg eens uit.

Eerder: gelijke monniken, gelijke kappen.
Zelfde principe, een principe waar je geen land mee kunt besturen.
  vrijdag 13 februari 2009 @ 15:50:43 #186
140043 Isdatzo
Born in the echoes.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 15:45 schreef Refragmental het volgende:

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Zelfde principe, een principe waar je geen land mee kunt besturen.
Voze opmerking.
Huilen dan.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 15:21 schreef buachaille het volgende:
Dit zou de speech van Wilders geweest kunnen zijn:

GEERT WILDERS' SPEECH IN HOUSE OF LORDS IF HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BANNED FROM THE UNITED KINGDOM
vrijdag 13 februari 2009

London, Feb. 12, 2009

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much.

Thank you for inviting me. Thank you Lord Pearson and Lady Cox for showing Fitna, and for your gracious invitation. While others look away, you, seem to understand the true tradition of your country, and a flag that still stands for freedom.
This is no ordinary place. This is not just one of England’s tourist attractions. This is a sacred place. This is the mother of all Parliaments, and I am deeply humbled to speak before you.

The Houses of Parliament is where Winston Churchill stood firm, and warned – all throughout the 1930’s – for the dangers looming. Most of the time he stood alone.

In 1982 President Reagan came to the House of Commons, where he did a speech very few people liked. Reagan called upon the West to reject communism and defend freedom. He introduced a phrase: ‘evil empire’. Reagan’s speech stands out as a clarion call to preserve our liberties. I quote: If history teaches anything, it teaches self-delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly.

What Reagan meant is that you cannot run away from history, you cannot escape the dangers of ideologies that are out to destroy you. Denial is no option.

Communism was indeed left on the ash heap of history, just as Reagan predicted in his speech in the House of Commons. He lived to see the Berlin Wall coming down, just as Churchill witnessed the implosion of national-socialism.

Today, I come before you to warn of another great threat. It is called Islam. It poses as a religion, but its goals are very worldly: world domination, holy war, sharia law, the end of the separation of church and state, the end of democracy. It is not a religion, it is a political ideology. It demands your respect, but has no respect for you.

There might be moderate Muslims, but there is no moderate Islam. Islam will never change, because it is build on two rocks that are forever, two fundamental beliefs that will never change, and will never go away. First, there is Quran, Allah’s personal word, uncreated, forever, with orders that need to be fulfilled regardless of place or time. And second, there is al-insal al-kamil, the perfect man, Muhammad the role model, whose deeds are to be imitated by all Muslims. And since Muhammad was a warlord and a conqueror we know what to expect.

Islam means submission, so there cannot be any mistake about it’s goal. That’s a given. The question is whether the British people, with its glorious past, is longing for that submission.

We see Islam taking off in the West at an incredible speed. The United Kingdom has seen a rapid growth of the number of Muslims. Over the last ten years, the Muslim population has grown ten times as fast as the rest of society. This has put an enormous pressure on society. Thanks to British politicians who have forgotten about Winston Churchill, the English now have taken the path of least resistance. They give up. They give in.

Thank you very much for letting me into the country. I received a letter from the Secretary of State for the Home Department, kindly disinviting me. I would threaten community relations, and therefore public security in the UK, the letter stated.
For a moment I feared that I would be refused entrance. But I was confident the British government would never sacrifice free speech because of fear of Islam. Britannia rules the waves, and Islam will never rule Britain, so I was confident the Border Agency would let me through. And after all, you have invited stranger creatures than me. Two years ago the House of Commons welcomed Mahmoud Suliman Ahmed Abu Rideh, linked to Al Qaeda. He was invited to Westminster by Lord Ahmed, who met him at Regent’s Park mosque three weeks before. Mr. Rideh, suspected of being a money man for terror groups, was given a SECURITY sticker for his Parliamentary visit.

Well, if you let in this man, than an elected politician from a fellow EU country surely is welcome here too. By letting me speak today you show that Mr Churchill’s spirit is still very much alive. And you prove that the European Union truly is working; the free movement of persons is still one of the pillars of the European project.

But there is still much work to be done. Britain seems to have become a country ruled by fear. A country where civil servants cancel Christmas celebrations to please Muslims. A country where Sharia Courts are part of the legal system. A country where Islamic organizations asked to stop the commemoration of the Holocaust. A country where a primary school cancels a Christmas nativity play because it interfered with an Islamic festival. A country where a school removes the words Christmas and Easter from their calendar so as not to offend Muslims. A country where a teacher punishes two students for refusing to pray to Allah as part of their religious education class. A country where elected members of a town council are told not to eat during daylight hours in town hall meetings during the Ramadan. A country that excels in its hatred of Israel, still the only democracy in the Middle-East. A country whose capitol is becoming ‘Londonistan’.

I would not qualify myself as a free man. Four and a half years ago I lost my freedom. I am under guard permanently, courtesy to those who prefer violence to debate. But for the leftist fan club of islam, that is not enough. They started a legal procedure against me. Three weeks ago the Amsterdam Court of Appeal ordered my criminal prosecution for making ‘Fitna’ and for my views on Islam. I committed what George Orwell called a ‘thought crime’.

You might have seen my name on Fitna’s credit role, but I am not really responsible for that movie. It was made for me. It was actually produced by Muslim extremists, the Quran and Islam itself. If Fitna is considered ‘hate speech’, then how would the Court qualify the Quran, with all it’s calls for violence, and hatred against women and Jews?
Mr. Churchill himself compared the Quran to Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf. Well, I did exactly the same, and that is what they are prosecuting me for.

I wonder if the UK ever put Mr. Churchill on trail.

The Court’s decision and the letter I received form the Secretary of State for the Home Department are two major victories for all those who detest freedom of speech. They are doing Islam’s dirty work. Sharia by proxy. The differences between Saudi-Arabia and Jordan on one hand and Holland and Britain are blurring. Europe is now on the fast track of becoming Eurabia. That is apparently the price we have to pay for the project of mass immigration, and the multicultural project.

Ladies and gentlemen, the dearest of our many freedoms is under attack. In Europe, freedom of speech is no longer a given. What we once considered a natural component of our existence is now something we again have to fight for. That is what is at stake. Whether or not I end up in jail is not the most pressing issue. The question is: Will free speech be put behind bars?

We have to defend freedom of speech.

For the generation of my parents the word ‘London’ is synonymous with hope and freedom. When my country was occupied by the national-socialists the BBC offered a daily glimpse of hope, in the darkness of Nazi tyranny. Millions of my country men listened to it, illegally. The words ‘This Is London’ were a symbol for a better world coming soon. If only the British and Canadian and American soldiers were here.

What will be transmitted forty years from now? Will it still be ‘This Is London’? Or will it be ‘this is Londonistan’? Will it bring us hope, or will it signal the values of Mecca and Medina? Will Britain offer submission or perseverance? Freedom or slavery?

The choice is ours.

Ladies and gentlemen,

We will never apologize for being free. We will never give in. We will never surrender.

Freedom must prevail, and freedom will prevail.

Thank you very much.


Geert Wilders MP
Chairman, Party for Freedom (PVV)
The Netherlands

Hoe groot kan je gelijk zijn!!! en wat schijten de dhimmie's weer in hun pants
Zou dat dus de speech zijn geweest als hij wel werd toegelaten?
Op zondag 23 maart 2008 02:16 schreef tyros-saver het volgende:
En PaasKonijn Ik heb het gemeld aan de Admin dat jij zei: Heb je typkanker.
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Ah geweest kunnen zijn.
Op zondag 23 maart 2008 02:16 schreef tyros-saver het volgende:
En PaasKonijn Ik heb het gemeld aan de Admin dat jij zei: Heb je typkanker.
  vrijdag 13 februari 2009 @ 15:57:19 #189
140043 Isdatzo
Born in the echoes.
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Of je quote even die hele lap tekst inderdaad.
Huilen dan.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 15:57 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:
Of je quote even die hele lap tekst inderdaad.
Anders ga je even in een hoekje zitten huilen.
Op zondag 23 maart 2008 02:16 schreef tyros-saver het volgende:
En PaasKonijn Ik heb het gemeld aan de Admin dat jij zei: Heb je typkanker.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 15:17 schreef Chadi het volgende:
Wat een lafaard zeg. Wel schreeuwen dat anderen in hun eigen vrijheid beperkt worden maar als hij een land niet in komt gaat ie als een klein kind rellen.
Ik zag hem ook al rellend op het vliegveld met twee middelvingers in de lucht gillend "hamas, hamas alle moslims aan het gas"
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:11 schreef Dr.Nikita het volgende:

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Ik zag hem ook al rellend op het vliegveld met twee middelvingers in de lucht gillend "hamas, hamas alle moslims aan het gas"
Dan vind ik jouw fantasie die van een achterlijke josti.
Op zondag 23 maart 2008 02:16 schreef tyros-saver het volgende:
En PaasKonijn Ik heb het gemeld aan de Admin dat jij zei: Heb je typkanker.
  vrijdag 13 februari 2009 @ 16:24:58 #193
140043 Isdatzo
Born in the echoes.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:06 schreef Paaskonijn het volgende:

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Anders ga je even in een hoekje zitten huilen.
Het is topic-verneukend, en heeft totaal geen toegevoegde waarde. Sowieso is het inhoudelijk reageren jou volkomen vreemd, dus dat verwacht ik ook niet van je. Maar is het dan wérkelijk zo moeilijk om het topic voor anderen wel leesbaar te houden?
Huilen dan.
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Had een super speech geweest.
Nu ga ik toch twijfelen of toelating toch niet beter was geweest. Wát een Verzet
Als ik lach met mijn lul, worden alle vrouwen gul.
Slepen ze me mee, hop naar de wc.
Spoelen maar, wat een mooi gebaar.
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Aan die haatspeech te zien is het maar goed dat ze die mafketel niet hebben binnen gelaten.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:31 schreef PDOA het volgende:
Aan die haatspeech te zien is het maar goed dat ze die mafketel niet hebben binnen gelaten.
Stel je voor, straks krijg je weer aanslagen op de burgerbevolking.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:24 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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Het is topic-verneukend, en heeft totaal geen toegevoegde waarde. Sowieso is het inhoudelijk reageren jou volkomen vreemd, dus dat verwacht ik ook niet van je. Maar is het dan wérkelijk zo moeilijk om het topic voor anderen wel leesbaar te houden?
Klopt het topic is nu onleesbaar geworden.
Op zondag 23 maart 2008 02:16 schreef tyros-saver het volgende:
En PaasKonijn Ik heb het gemeld aan de Admin dat jij zei: Heb je typkanker.
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Crosspost, omdat relevant.
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Op donderdag 12 februari 2009 22:16 schreef OldJeller het volgende:
Voor zo'n gelegenheid mag toch wel een passend plaatje gecreëerd worden.





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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:31 schreef PDOA het volgende:
Aan die haatspeech te zien is het maar goed dat ze die mafketel niet hebben binnen gelaten.
Haha, als je moeder roept dat je je tanden moet poetsen voordat je naar school gaat dan heb je zeker ook al haatgevoelens?
  vrijdag 13 februari 2009 @ 16:36:24 #200
140043 Isdatzo
Born in the echoes.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:35 schreef buachaille het volgende:

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Haha, als je moeder roept dat je je tanden moet poetsen voordat je naar school gaat dan heb je zeker ook al haatgevoelens?
Prima vergelijking natuurlijk.
Huilen dan.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:35 schreef buachaille het volgende:

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Haha, als je moeder roept dat je je tanden moet poetsen voordat je naar school gaat dan heb je zeker ook al haatgevoelens?
Prima bewijs dat Nederlandse tieners geen flauw benul hebben waar ze het over hebben en waar ze op stemmen.
  vrijdag 13 februari 2009 @ 16:41:18 #202
140043 Isdatzo
Born in the echoes.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:37 schreef PDOA het volgende:

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Prima bewijs dat Nederlandse tieners geen flauw benul hebben waar ze het over hebben en waar ze op stemmen.
Niet alleen tieners.

Schokkend hoeveel aanhang Wilders heeft met dat poplulistisch gewauwel.
Huilen dan.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:37 schreef PDOA het volgende:

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Prima bewijs dat Nederlandse tieners geen flauw benul hebben waar ze het over hebben en waar ze op stemmen.
Jij hebt wat mij betreft absoluut geen recht van spreken met je doodsverwensingen richting Wilders.
Wat mij betreft ben jij nog een grotere idioot dan Wilders
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:20 schreef Paaskonijn het volgende:

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Dan vind ik jouw fantasie die van een achterlijke josti.
sorry hoor dat ik op je teentjes trap, Ik wist niet dat er door moslims wettelijke octrooirechten gelden op het geloven in sprookjes
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:41 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

Niet alleen tieners.

Schokkend hoeveel aanhang Wilders heeft met dat poplulistisch gewauwel.
De extra aanhang van Wilders is rechtstreeks afkomstig van de andere populistische partijen
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:41 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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Niet alleen tieners.

Schokkend hoeveel aanhang Wilders heeft met dat poplulistisch gewauwel.
Ik vind het veel schokkender dat er figuren zijn die voorstander zijn apartheid.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:46 schreef Dr.Nikita het volgende:

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Ik vind het veel schokkender dat er figuren zijn die voorstander zijn apartheid.
Niet om het 1 of ander, maar dat ben jij toch ook als je achter Wilders staat ?
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:48 schreef gelly het volgende:

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Niet om het 1 of ander, maar dat ben jij toch ook als je achter Wilders staat ?
Nee, want ik onderschrijf niet alle punten wat wilders aandraagt.

en bij de weg, jij propageert toch zo nuances als het moslims betreft, waarom nu niet?
  vrijdag 13 februari 2009 @ 16:58:57 #209
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Hadden ze Wilders gewoon toegelaten, dan was de film vertoond, besproken en had hij weer naar huis kunnen gaan.

Nu vraagt elke Engelsman zich af waar die film dan over gaat dat een Nederlandse parlementarier het land niet in mag.

Wilders heeft nu meer mensen bereikt dan oorspronkelijk het geval zou zijn geweest.
  vrijdag 13 februari 2009 @ 17:08:32 #210
140043 Isdatzo
Born in the echoes.
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Op vrijdag 13 februari 2009 16:58 schreef Gia het volgende:
Hadden ze Wilders gewoon toegelaten, dan was de film vertoond, besproken en had hij weer naar huis kunnen gaan.

Nu vraagt elke Engelsman zich af waar die film dan over gaat dat een Nederlandse parlementarier het land niet in mag.

Wilders heeft nu meer mensen bereikt dan oorspronkelijk het geval zou zijn geweest.
En wilders kan nu weer lekker hard gaan roepen dat het een grof schandaal is.

Als je extremistische immams weigert kan je dat ook prima doen met een extremistische blonde schreeuwlelijk.

Anders zou je de haatzaaiende moslims ook onder de noemer van 'vrijheid van meningsuiting' de toegang tot het land niet kunnen ontzeggen.
Huilen dan.
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