Israel - Hamas: de oorlog deel 12

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:17 schreef Triggershot het volgende:

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Nee joh, het zijn joden.. van hun verwacht je dat juist!

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:15 schreef zoalshetis het volgende:

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hoezo 3 minuten? waar heb je het over. het is bekend en ze krijgen ruim de tijd om de omgeving te verlaten.

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nogmaals, al wordt het eentonig, israel wil nu de infrastructuur van hamas kapot maken en slaagt daar in. straks komen de grondtroepen die de leiders uit hun huizen gaat sleuren.

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:19 schreef Halcon het volgende:

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Nu komt je ware aard naar boven.

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:16 schreef HarryP het volgende:

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Persoonlijk denk ik niet dat ze de steden meteen zullen binnentrekken maar de controle over de gebieden die ze een aantal jaren geleden hebben opgegeven weer zullen innemen.

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Blauwe pijltjes en ik verwacht dat dat dit weekend al gaat gebeuren.

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:21 schreef IHVK het volgende:

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Het is ironisch dat je niet begrijpt dat een toespeling is op jouw uitspraken over Palestijnen.

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:19 schreef IHVK het volgende:

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Bekend? Ruim de tijd? Waar moeten ze heen? etc.

Zojuist op NOVA: Israëlische leger belt, zegt dat ze hun huizen binnen 3 minuten moeten verlaten, buren worden niet gewaarschuwd.
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Ik heb juist gelezen dat er meer raketten richting Israël vliegen.

Ik ben heeeel moe trouwens, hard gewerkt.

Ga nu lekker slapen.
Tot morgen.

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:21 schreef Triggershot het volgende:

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Dat moet het zijn ja.

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Anti-Defamation League, June 7, 2005.


Despite good faith efforts by government and the international community to counteract the anti-Semitism plaguing Europe, millions of Europeans continue to believe the classical anti-Semitic canards that have dogged Jews through the centuries, according to a new poll released by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today.

A survey of 12 European countries revealed that a plurality of Europeans believe Jews are not loyal to their country and that they have too much power in business and finance.
The opinion survey of 6,000 adults - 500 in each of the 12 European countries - found either minimal decline, no change or, in some cases, an increase in negative attitudes toward Jews from its 2004 findings.

The survey, Attitudes Toward Jews in Twelve European Countries, was released to coincide with the Conference on Anti-Semitism and on Other Forms of Intolerance sponsored by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), in Cordoba, Spain June 8-9.
The countries surveyed were: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Italy, Germany, The Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, and for the first time, Hungary and Poland.

Respondents across the continent were asked a series of indicator questions representing the most pernicious notions of anti-Semitism and whether or not they thought the following four statements were "probably true" or "probably false."

Jews are more loyal to Israel than to this country.
Jews have too much power in the business world.
Jews have too much power in international financial markets.
Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust.
Respondents were also asked whether they agree or disagree with the following statement:

The Jews are responsible for the death of Christ.
Finally, respondents were asked:
If their opinion of Jews was influenced by actions taken by the State of Israel and whether they believed the violence directed against European Jews was a result of anti-Jewish feelings or anti-Israel sentiment.


Findings Summary


A plurality of those surveyed across Europe, 43 percent, believe that Jews are more loyal to Israel than to their own country, with a majority of respondents in Italy, Germany, Poland and Spain saying they believe that this statement is "probably true."
Alarmingly high levels of those surveyed across Europe still believe in the traditional anti-Jewish canard that "Jews have too much power in the business world." Overall, nearly 30 percent of all respondents believe this stereotype to be true.
Similarly, European respondents still adhere to the notion that "Jews have too much power in international financial markets." Overall, 32 percent of those surveyed cling to the traditional stereotype.
Large portions of the European public continue to believe that Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust. Overall, 42 percent of those surveyed believe it is "probably true." In fact, a plurality of respondents in Austria, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Poland, Spain and Switzerland believe this notion to be true.
Overall, 20 percent of those surveyed across Europe continue to blame Jews for the death of Jesus.
Overall, 29 percent of those surveyed across Europe say that their opinion of Jews is influenced by the actions taken by the State of Israel.
Of those respondents whose opinions are influenced, a majority, 53 percent, say that their opinion of Jews is worse as a result of the actions taken by Israel.
"The findings of this survey demonstrate that individual governments, the EU and the OSCE, who have condemned anti-Semitism and sought ways to counteract it, are being challenged to find a formula that will break down the old stereotypes that die hard," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director.

"Millions of Europeans still accept a wide range of traditional anti-Semitic stereotypes, including the charge that Jews are more loyal to Israel than to their home country.
These attitudes help incite and legitimize anti-Semitism and, coupled with an atmosphere where violence against Jews is still prevalent, give us great cause for concern."


Country by Country Findings

In responding "probably true" to the statement, "Jews are more loyal to Israel than their own country," the 2005 survey found:

Austria - 38%, down from 46%
Belgium - 41%, down from 46%
Denmark - 43% up from 37%
France - 29%, up from 28%
Germany - 50%, no change
Italy - 55%, down from 57%
The Netherlands - 36%, down from 44%
Spain - 51%, up from 48%
Switzerland - 38%, down from 46%
The United Kingdom - 38% down from 40%
Hungary - 38%
Poland - 52%

In responding "probably true" to the statement, "Jews have too much power in the business world," the 2005 survey found:

Austria - 24%, down from 25% in 2004
Belgium - 33%, down from 37%
Denmark - 11% up from 9%
France - 25%, down from 33%
Germany - 20%, down from 24%
Italy - 33%, up from 29%
The Netherlands - 18% no change
Spain - 45%, down from 47%
Switzerland - 26%, down from 35%
The United Kingdom - 14% down from 20%
Hungary - 55%
Poland - 43%

In responding "probably true" to the statement "Jews have too much power in international final markets," the 2005 survey found:

Austria - 33%, down from 36% in 2004
Belgium - 33%, down from 36%
Denmark - 21% up from 18%
France - 24%, down from 29%
Germany - 24%, down from 27%
Italy - 32%, up from 31%
The Netherlands - 19% no change
Spain - 54%, up from 53%
Switzerland - 30%, down from 38%
The United Kingdom - 16% down from 18%
Hungary - 55%
Poland - 43%

In responding "probably true" to the statement "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust," the 2005 survey found:

Austria - 46%, down from 54% in 2004
Belgium - 41%, up from 40%
Denmark - 35% up from 29%
France - 34%, down from 35%
Germany - 48%, down from 56%
Italy - 49%, up from 44%
The Netherlands - 34%, down from 39%
Spain - 46%, up from 41%
Switzerland - 48%, down from 49%
The United Kingdom - 28% down from 31%
Hungary - 46%
Poland - 52%

Regarding Poland and Hungary, the two countries added to the survey who are now members of the EU, Mr. Foxman said, "We are not surprised to find that a high percentage of the respondents hold negative views of Jews, given each country's history of animus towards Jews. However, we are hopeful that, along with their other EU partners, they will take the necessary steps to make anti-Semitism unacceptable in their societies."
Barbara B. Balser, ADL National Chair, added, "These findings will help guide our deliberations on a European and country by country basis, as we continue the effort to combat anti-Semitism." We will be working with our European colleagues on a variety of initiatives to educate against anti-Semitism."

The ADL commissioned First International Resources to conduct the survey. Fielded in Europe by Taylor Nelson Sofres, which conducted a total of 6,000 telephone interviews - 500 in each of the 12 countries in the native language of each of the countries -- among the general population between April 11 - May 6, 2005. The margin of error for each country is +/-4.5% at 95% level of confidence.

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:20 schreef Triggershot het volgende:

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dier = die er - dwz -- de kleinere raketten.

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:21 schreef sp3c het volgende:

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lijkt me waarschijnlijk ja

maar die terroristen die zoalshetis wil pakken zullen niet langs die pijlen staan te wachten, dus wat wil Israel dan nog bereiken met een grondoffensief?

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:23 schreef zoalshetis het volgende:

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slaap maar lekker met de wetenschap dat israel de grote stoute wolf is. zal je vast heerlijk doen laten slapen. en drie minuten is heel erg veel tijd. dat ze überhaupt waarschuwen zegt al heel veel over de intentie van israel.

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:24 schreef sp3c het volgende:

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nog niet iig

niemand nog trouwens, of je moet om de 5000 meter een goalkeeper achtig systeem neerzetten
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goalkeeper

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Op vrijdag 2 januari 2009 20:17 schreef zoalshetis het volgende:

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je weet dat sinds hamas aan de macht is er al meer dan 400 israelische burgers zijn omgekomen?

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During the last seven years, 14 Israelis have been killed by mostly homemade rockets fired from the Gaza Strip, while more than 5,000 Palestinians were killed by Israel with some of the most advanced US-supplied armaments in the world. And while no rockets are fired from the West Bank, 45 Palestinians have died there at Israel's hands this year alone. The issue is of course not just the vast disparity in weapons and power, but that one side is the occupier, the other the occupied.

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:27 schreef IHVK het volgende:

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*zucht*

Zowel Hamas en Israël zijn fout bezig.
Grote slachtoffer is de Palestijnse bevolking.

En niemand is een boze wolf, bij een langlopend conflict is het onmogelijk één schuldige aan te wijzen. Toch zal ik wel rustig gaan slapen denkend aan mooie dingen.
cheers.

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:26 schreef zoalshetis het volgende:

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die ik wil pakken? hou nou eens op met mij de zwarte piet toeschuiven. ik heb het over mogelijke scenario's. persoonlijk worden doe je maar lekker tegen je vrienden.

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:29 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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Kun je daar nog even een bron van geven of hoe je aan 400+ komt?


In the guardian staat iets anders
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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:30 schreef sp3c het volgende:

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hey die toon zet je zelf in door iedere keer 'jij bent toch militair, ik snap niet dat je het niet met me eens bent' achter je posts te plakken

dus als jij dat lekker tegen je vrienden doet dan doe ik dat ook

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:32 schreef zoalshetis het volgende:

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iedere keer? ik zei het een keer. stel je niet aan man.

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:34 schreef sp3c het volgende:

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ik heb het zowieso al 2x gezien dus vond ik het wel mijn beurt eerlijk gezegd ... dat jij daar niet tegenkunt vind ik dan gezien je postgedrag wat vreemd

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Op zaterdag 3 januari 2009 00:37 schreef sp3c het volgende:
nou en jij wil die terroristen dead or alive ... dan klopt alles toch zo