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Iets, iets... Montov legt het altijd heel goed uit: Nee, het valt wel mee. Maar bij sommige peilingen zie je soms inderdaad wel eens een kleiner gat, maar let maar op wat er dan gebeurt: Obama blijft altijd zo rond de 50 a 52, het is McCain die fluctueert. Geen probleem.quote:Op dinsdag 28 oktober 2008 20:04 schreef Toad het volgende:
Nog een weekje...
McCain begint iets terug te komen zo te zien.
tvp 
"Would you guys stop it already?! Did you ever think that maybe there's more to life than being really, really, really, ridiculously good looking?"
Tax plan bij inkomen: $112,000 - $227,000
(15% of population) Obama $2,300 less McCain $3,200 less
Lijkt me duidelijk
McCain
http://www.suntimes.com/n(...)caintaxplans.article
(15% of population) Obama $2,300 less McCain $3,200 less
Lijkt me duidelijk
McCain
http://www.suntimes.com/n(...)caintaxplans.article
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En dan nog zal een fluctuatie van enkele procenten in de popular vote polls weinig invloed hebben op de gewonnen staten lijkt me.
2000 light years from home
Tvp. 
'De neiging rijke en machtige mensen te bewonderen, zelfs welhaast te aanbidden en mensen van arme of gewone komaf te verachten dan wel te negeren is de belangrijkste en meest universele oorzaak van de corruptie van ons morele besef' Adam Smith
quote:Op dinsdag 28 oktober 2008 21:12 schreef laforest het volgende:
Tax plan bij inkomen: $112,000 - $227,000
(15% of population) Obama $2,300 less McCain $3,200 less
Lijkt me duidelijk
McCain
http://www.suntimes.com/n(...)caintaxplans.article
De lage inkomens hebben wat meer aan een tax cut.
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Ja ach, ik denk ook niet dat McCain nu opeens een momentum heeft hoor. Hij heeft nog een flink gat in PA, VA, NV en CO.quote:Op dinsdag 28 oktober 2008 21:12 schreef Merkie het volgende:
En dan nog zal een fluctuatie van enkele procenten in de popular vote polls weinig invloed hebben op de gewonnen staten lijkt me.
Obama laat zich deze week ook meer zien in de media, vrijdag bijv. in The Situation Room.
Het zou ook wel gek wezen als McCain niet wat zou winnen na alle media-aandacht van de afgelopen week.
Morgen is ook de 30-minuten reclamespot van Obama op de networks toch?
Ik denk toch echt dat dit een algemeen bekend feit is dat niet klopt...quote:Op dinsdag 28 oktober 2008 20:59 schreef maartena het volgende:
En het is bijna elke verkiezing al gebleken dat de polls vaak niet kloppen.
...maar hoe dan ook:
Laat dat wijf toch lekker zuigen, ze heeft toch altijd gelijk, het is een soort openbaring die ze gehad heeft, iets redelijks gaat er toch niet uit komen.
Ik weet het ook niet
Het is natuurlijk een exacte wetenschap, maar goed opgezette polls kunnen het algemene beeld wel degelijk adequaat weergeven.quote:Op dinsdag 28 oktober 2008 21:17 schreef Monidique het volgende:
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Ik denk toch echt dat dit een algemeen bekend feit is dat niet klopt...
...maar hoe dan ook:
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Volkorenbrood: "Geen quotes meer in jullie sigs gaarne."
Ook leuk 
Palin draws Democrats with rallying cry
FREDERICKSBURG, Virginia (CNN) -- Lula Easterling and her friend Bill Hardenburgh have voted Democrat all their lives. But browsing through a pile of Sarah Palin t-shirts, baseball caps and other merchandise as they wait to gain access to the Republican vice-presidential candidate's campaign rally in Fredericksburg, the pair admit next week they will be casting their votes elsewhere.
"We're here to show our support for John McCain and Sarah Palin," Easterling tells me. "We like their strategy on the economy and everything they say. He's an honest man, he doesn't lie and she's the same."
Voor de rest van het verhaal lees:
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)tml?iref=mpstoryview
Palin draws Democrats with rallying cry
FREDERICKSBURG, Virginia (CNN) -- Lula Easterling and her friend Bill Hardenburgh have voted Democrat all their lives. But browsing through a pile of Sarah Palin t-shirts, baseball caps and other merchandise as they wait to gain access to the Republican vice-presidential candidate's campaign rally in Fredericksburg, the pair admit next week they will be casting their votes elsewhere.
"We're here to show our support for John McCain and Sarah Palin," Easterling tells me. "We like their strategy on the economy and everything they say. He's an honest man, he doesn't lie and she's the same."
Voor de rest van het verhaal lees:
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)tml?iref=mpstoryview
Jehovah=Power of God Lucifer=Light of God Satan=Love of God Jesus=Unity of God
http://www.nbc.com/Saturd(...)final-debate/768721/quote:Op dinsdag 28 oktober 2008 21:08 schreef laforest het volgende:
'Joe the Plumber' Backs Claim That Obama Would Bring 'Death to Israel'
Joe Wurzelbacher, on his first campaign trail appearance for John McCain, says he agrees that a vote for Barack Obama would be "a vote for the death to Israel."
Joe Wurzelbacher, a.k.a. "Joe the Plumber," on Tuesday twice agreed with a claim from an audience member at a John McCain rally that "a vote for Barack Obama is a vote for the death to Israel."
Wurzelbacher was hitting the campaign trail on behalf of McCain for the first time, joining former Rep. Rob Portman on a GOP bus tour through Ohio.
At a stop in Columbus, he fielded the question on Israel from a self-identified Jewish senior citizen.
The questioner said he was "concerned" with Barack Obama's associations and "It's my belief that a vote for Obama is a vote for the death to Israel."
Wurzelbacher responded: "I do know that."
The questioner then complained about Obama's tax policies and reiterated his Israel comment.
lees de rest zelf hier;
http://elections.foxnews.(...)-bring-death-israel/
SNL heeft het hier toch aardig voorspeld. Joe the plumber is zijn invisible little friend
Kom op zeg, gaat onze Joe ons vertellen hoe de buitenlandse politiek moet worden gevoerd
"Meisje kijk me aan en laat je tranen lopen.
Oog in oog met genialiteit sta je.
Hier had je toch niet op durven hopen.
Je gaat met Joey mee, want deze jongen komt zo hard."
Oog in oog met genialiteit sta je.
Hier had je toch niet op durven hopen.
Je gaat met Joey mee, want deze jongen komt zo hard."
Dostojewski: "Je kunt je niet van je eigen gezond verstand overtuigen door je buurman op te sluiten."
Geen exacte wetenschap?quote:Op dinsdag 28 oktober 2008 21:19 schreef Monolith het volgende:
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Het is natuurlijk een exacte wetenschap, maar goed opgezette polls kunnen het algemene beeld wel degelijk adequaat weergeven.
. Maar dat bedoel ik dus. Peilingen zitten er zo vaak zo naast (met als implicatie: je kunt er nu ook niet op vertrouwen). Dat is een algemeen bekend feit. Maar wel een algemeen bekend feit dat niet strookt met de realiteit.
Strategie??? Eerlijk??? Republikeinen???????????????quote:Op dinsdag 28 oktober 2008 21:20 schreef laforest het volgende:
Ook leuk
Palin draws Democrats with rallying cry
FREDERICKSBURG, Virginia (CNN) -- Lula Easterling and her friend Bill Hardenburgh have voted Democrat all their lives. But browsing through a pile of Sarah Palin t-shirts, baseball caps and other merchandise as they wait to gain access to the Republican vice-presidential candidate's campaign rally in Fredericksburg, the pair admit next week they will be casting their votes elsewhere.
"We're here to show our support for John McCain and Sarah Palin," Easterling tells me. "We like their strategy on the economy and everything they say. He's an honest man, he doesn't lie and she's the same."
Voor de rest van het verhaal lees:
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)tml?iref=mpstoryview
Ik weet het ook niet
Teen shot over vandalized McCain sign, police say
(CNN) -- A Warren Township, Ohio, man faces charges of felonious assault after authorities say he fired his rifle at two teens who were attempting to deface his McCain presidential campaign yard sign.
Kenneth Rowles, 50, pleaded not guilty to the charge Monday, according to CNN affiliate WBNS.
Bail was set at $10,000.
Rowles told police he was sitting on his porch Saturday when a tan SUV pulled up and a black youth jumped out and ran toward his house, screaming, "This is for Obama."
He said another male was hanging out of the passenger window screaming the same thing.
Rowles said he went inside, got his rifle and fired three shots to scare the youths away, according to a Warren Township police report.
He told officers he believes that the men "were the same two that have been destroying his McCain sign."
Just hours before the shooting, Rowles called police and said that a car had stopped in front of his house and that a black male "ran up and said something about Obama," according to the report, and "damaged his sign again."
One of the youths, 17-year-old Kyree Flowers, was shot in the arm, according to a police report. He and the second youth, Patrick Wise Jr., 16, told police they were in the car attempting to leave when Rowles fired at them.
"Kyree stated that he witnessed the homeowner trying to shoot Patrick but he was having trouble chambering a round," the police report said.
The teens admitted that they had defaced the McCain sign several times, Warren Township police Lt. Don Bishop told CNN.
Rowles' is the only McCain sign on a street full of Obama signs, he said.
Bishop said the teenagers probably will not be charged -- and are unlikely to damage campaign signs again, as the incident scared them.
Warren Township is in Trumbull County not far from Cleveland, Ohio.
Bron CNN updated 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)tml?iref=mpstoryview
(CNN) -- A Warren Township, Ohio, man faces charges of felonious assault after authorities say he fired his rifle at two teens who were attempting to deface his McCain presidential campaign yard sign.
Kenneth Rowles, 50, pleaded not guilty to the charge Monday, according to CNN affiliate WBNS.
Bail was set at $10,000.
Rowles told police he was sitting on his porch Saturday when a tan SUV pulled up and a black youth jumped out and ran toward his house, screaming, "This is for Obama."
He said another male was hanging out of the passenger window screaming the same thing.
Rowles said he went inside, got his rifle and fired three shots to scare the youths away, according to a Warren Township police report.
He told officers he believes that the men "were the same two that have been destroying his McCain sign."
Just hours before the shooting, Rowles called police and said that a car had stopped in front of his house and that a black male "ran up and said something about Obama," according to the report, and "damaged his sign again."
One of the youths, 17-year-old Kyree Flowers, was shot in the arm, according to a police report. He and the second youth, Patrick Wise Jr., 16, told police they were in the car attempting to leave when Rowles fired at them.
"Kyree stated that he witnessed the homeowner trying to shoot Patrick but he was having trouble chambering a round," the police report said.
The teens admitted that they had defaced the McCain sign several times, Warren Township police Lt. Don Bishop told CNN.
Rowles' is the only McCain sign on a street full of Obama signs, he said.
Bishop said the teenagers probably will not be charged -- and are unlikely to damage campaign signs again, as the incident scared them.
Warren Township is in Trumbull County not far from Cleveland, Ohio.
Bron CNN updated 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)tml?iref=mpstoryview
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Het is niet dat ik de McCain supporters weg wil hebben uit dit topic. Maar we hoeven het toch echt niet over dit soort sneue artikelen te hebben.
Nee dat doet Joe niet, het is wel handig voor de propaganda, nevertheless heb je wel de steun van de AIPAC nodig om president te worden (maw een positief Israel beleid)quote:Op dinsdag 28 oktober 2008 21:20 schreef JoeyT het volgende:
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http://www.nbc.com/Saturd(...)final-debate/768721/
SNL heeft het hier toch aardig voorspeld. Joe the plumber is zijn invisible little friend
Kom op zeg, gaat onze Joe ons vertellen hoe de buitenlandse politiek moet worden gevoerd
Jehovah=Power of God Lucifer=Light of God Satan=Love of God Jesus=Unity of God
Meen je dit soort troep nou serieus?quote:Op dinsdag 28 oktober 2008 21:22 schreef laforest het volgende:
Teen shot over vandalized McCain sign, police say
Pfff wat zet ik weer een gelul neer
"Meisje kijk me aan en laat je tranen lopen.
Oog in oog met genialiteit sta je.
Hier had je toch niet op durven hopen.
Je gaat met Joey mee, want deze jongen komt zo hard."
Oog in oog met genialiteit sta je.
Hier had je toch niet op durven hopen.
Je gaat met Joey mee, want deze jongen komt zo hard."
Feit is dat Palin stemmen van de Democrats afkaapt in Virginia en dat is cruciaal, daar gaat het om!quote:Op dinsdag 28 oktober 2008 21:22 schreef Dunckie het volgende:
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Strategie??? Eerlijk??? Republikeinen???????????????
Jehovah=Power of God Lucifer=Light of God Satan=Love of God Jesus=Unity of God
Het komt van CNN hoor, niet van Foxnewsquote:Op dinsdag 28 oktober 2008 21:24 schreef JoeyT het volgende:
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Meen je dit soort troep nou serieus?
En waarom is dit gelul? De persoon zit vast en een bail van 10000 dollar, lijkt me serieus.
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Was al eerder gepost trouwens.quote:Op dinsdag 28 oktober 2008 21:22 schreef laforest het volgende:
Teen shot over vandalized McCain sign, police say
(CNN) -- A Warren Township, Ohio, man faces charges of felonious assault after authorities say he fired his rifle at two teens who were attempting to deface his McCain presidential campaign yard sign.
Kenneth Rowles, 50, pleaded not guilty to the charge Monday, according to CNN affiliate WBNS.
Bail was set at $10,000.
Rowles told police he was sitting on his porch Saturday when a tan SUV pulled up and a black youth jumped out and ran toward his house, screaming, "This is for Obama."
He said another male was hanging out of the passenger window screaming the same thing.
Rowles said he went inside, got his rifle and fired three shots to scare the youths away, according to a Warren Township police report.
He told officers he believes that the men "were the same two that have been destroying his McCain sign."
Just hours before the shooting, Rowles called police and said that a car had stopped in front of his house and that a black male "ran up and said something about Obama," according to the report, and "damaged his sign again."
One of the youths, 17-year-old Kyree Flowers, was shot in the arm, according to a police report. He and the second youth, Patrick Wise Jr., 16, told police they were in the car attempting to leave when Rowles fired at them.
"Kyree stated that he witnessed the homeowner trying to shoot Patrick but he was having trouble chambering a round," the police report said.
The teens admitted that they had defaced the McCain sign several times, Warren Township police Lt. Don Bishop told CNN.
Rowles' is the only McCain sign on a street full of Obama signs, he said.
Bishop said the teenagers probably will not be charged -- and are unlikely to damage campaign signs again, as the incident scared them.
Warren Township is in Trumbull County not far from Cleveland, Ohio.
Bron CNN updated 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)tml?iref=mpstoryview
