Ik ga er niet aan voorbij.quote:quote:
Op maandag 1 september 2008 23:48 schreef Wheelgunner het volgende:
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Ook jij hebt het leuk over de keuzevrijheid van de vrouw, maar je gaat compleet voorbij aan de eventuele rechten van het ongeboren kind.
Mogelijk is uit de eerdere vega discussie al gebleken dat ik bovengemiddeld gevoelig ben voor recht op leven, maar daar kan ik ook wel rationeel over zijn hoor, en ook bij abortus denk ik dat het rationeel is om in ieder geval eventuele rechten van het ongeboren kind in beschouwing te nemen.
Nog even over dat grondig doorpluisen, ja, ook al staat het in een ander topic:quote:Op dinsdag 2 september 2008 00:44 schreef Wheelgunner het volgende:
Ik doe ook weer mee.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/212167.phpquote:We had heard hints of this. But just moments ago, Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC said that Republican lawyers are currently doing a vet of Sarah Palin up in Alaska. We'll get you the video shortly. But it seems that the really deep vet of Palin started after her selection was announced.
Alleen jammer dat ze dacht dat McCain pro choice was.quote:Op dinsdag 2 september 2008 02:18 schreef Toad het volgende:
Is deze al voorbij gekomen:
Toegegeven, hij is een beetje oud. Maar ai ai, wel enorm hilarisch.
http://www.nypost.com/sev(...)ughter_is_127025.htmquote:On his MySpace page, Johnston boasts, "I'm a fuckin' redneck" who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes.
"But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some shit and just fuckin' chillin' I guess."
"Ya fuckin with me I'll kick [your] ass," he added.
He also claims to be "in a relationship," but states, "I don't want kids.
bronquote:One Republican strategist with close ties to the campaign described the candidate's closest supporters as "keeping their fingers crossed" in hopes that additional information does not force McCain to revisit the decision. According to this Republican, who would discuss internal campaign strategizing only on condition of anonymity, the McCain team used little more than a Google Internet search as part of a rushed effort to review Palin's potential pitfalls. Just over a week ago, Palin was not on McCain's short list of potential running mates, the Republican said.
Prachtig dit verhaalquote:Op dinsdag 2 september 2008 06:14 schreef Caesu het volgende:
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http://www.nypost.com/sev(...)ughter_is_127025.htm
tijd voor een bezoek aan Jerry Springer die hele familie.
wat een drama.![]()
verder zal het lid zijn van en het toespreken van die Alaskan Independence Party nog wel een staartje krijgen.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/(...)members-of-frin.html
en dan zijn er nog een handvol andere gates.
quote:Op dinsdag 2 september 2008 04:13 schreef Fokski het volgende:
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Alleen jammer dat ze dacht dat McCain pro choice was.![]()
Dat is alleen maar goed, hoe langer McCain haar houdt hoe slechter het voor hem uitpakt. Zou de McCain-campagne inmiddels doorhebben dat Palin niet meer zo populair is op het internet?quote:Op dinsdag 2 september 2008 10:08 schreef Caesu het volgende:
de rechtse blogs zijn nog steeds vrij positief of McCain's keuze.
al wordt het wat minder.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/P(...)ngelicals/index.htmlquote:Evangelicals rally behind Palin after pregnancy news
ST. PAUL, Minnesota (CNN) -- Key evangelical leaders rallied to Sarah Palin's support Monday amid news that her 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, was having a child.
"Before, they were excited about her, with the Down syndrome baby," conservative, anti-tax activist Grover Norquist said. "But now with this, they are over the moon. It reinforces the fact that this family lives its pro-life values."
Palin and John McCain oppose abortion and have supported promoting abstinence in schools, which would seem to make Bristol Palin's pregnancy an inconveniently timed development.
But she is keeping the child, a fact that could make the Alaska governor -- whose candidacy has been enthusiastically embraced by evangelicals who regard her as one of their own -- even more popular among that key GOP voting bloc. Watch more on Palin's announcement »
"Fortunately, Bristol is following her mother and father's example of choosing life in the midst of a difficult situation," Family Research Council president Tony Perkins said. "We are committed to praying for Bristol and her husband-to-be and the entire Palin family as they walk through a very private matter in the eyes of the public."
Evangelical leader Richard Land also backed Palin completely.
"This is the pro-life choice. The fact that people will criticize her for this shows the astounding extent to which the secular critics of the pro-life movement just don't get it," Land said in a statement.
"Those who criticize the Palin family don't understand that we don't see babies as a punishment but as a blessing. Barack Obama said that if one of his daughters made a mistake and got pregnant out of wedlock, he wouldn't want her to be punished with a child. Pro-lifers don't see a child as punishment."
The immediate support of these major figures, who offered universal praise for the Palins' actions after learning their daughter was pregnant, provides the filter through which conservative Christian voters will process the development.
Most important for Palin, an elder statesman of the movement, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, released a statement lauding the Palins for acting in keeping with the group's policies and practices:
"We have always encouraged the parents to love and support their children and always advised the girls to see their pregnancies through, even though there will of course be challenges along the way. That is what the Palins are doing, and they should be commended once again for not just talking about their pro-life and pro-family values, but living them out even in the midst of trying circumstances.
"Being a Christian does not mean you're perfect. Nor does it mean your children are perfect. But it does mean there is forgiveness and restoration when we confess our imperfections to the Lord. I've been the beneficiary of that forgiveness and restoration in my own life countless times, as I'm sure the Palins have," Dobson said.
Some evangelicals gathered in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, for the Republican convention speculated that the news would pose more of a problem for Democrats than for the GOP ticket.
Speculation by some on blogs that Palin's son Trig was actually Bristol's child had led to outrage among conservatives.
Any comment by Democrats that is viewed as remotely critical could make both Sarah and Bristol Palin appear to be sympathetic victims of a political vendetta.
By Monday afternoon, evangelical leaders were circling the wagons.
"The media are already trying to spin this as evidence Gov. Palin is a 'hypocrite,' but all it really means is that she and her family are human," Dobson said. "They are in my prayers and those of millions of Americans."
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