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Clinton ziet alle resterende voorverkiezingen als examen voor de superdelegates... het haalt niet meer het nieuws, maar ze pikt er gestaag op (deze week 5)... het zou best kunnen dat Obama tot aan de zomer alleen nog maar North Carolina wint.quote:Op dinsdag 15 april 2008 20:25 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Het is sowieso raar wat Clinton doet. Obama wordt de kandidaat, klaar, zij kan niet meer winnen,
Ook hoopt men op nog meer "bitter gates", die Obama mogelijk treffen... waar de superdelegates ook huiverig voor zijn.
En men wacht nog op een eindconclusie over Florida en Michigan.
Want het is eigenlijk van de gekke dat 6000 caucus stemmers in Wyoming meer gewicht in de schaal leggen dan 2 miljoen aan de kant geschoven stemmen in Florida.. en November winnen zonder Florida, waar de mensen mogelijk zwaar gefrustreerd zijn door de Democratische Partij, lijkt schier onmogelijk....
Gaat het ooit nog lukken denk je, om de simpele Clintonbreintjes zover te krijgen dat ze snappen dat nu Florida "verliezen" van een andere democraat niet betekent dat je dan in november opeens automatisch ook verliest van een republikeinquote:Op woensdag 16 april 2008 03:40 schreef Perico het volgende:
...en November winnen zonder Florida, waar de mensen mogelijk zwaar gefrustreerd zijn door de Democratische Partij, lijkt schier onmogelijk....
Clinton, onbetrouwbaar
She has lost trust among voters, a majority of whom now view her as dishonest. Clinton is viewed as "honest and trustworthy" by just 39 percent of Americans, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, compared with 52 percent in May 2006. Nearly six in 10 said in the new poll that she is not honest and trustworthy. And now, compared with Obama, Clinton has a deep trust deficit among Democrats, trailing him by 23 points as the more honest, an area on which she once led both Obama and John Edwards.
Obama staat voor in 2 van de 3
Barack Obama is leading Hillary Clinton in two of the next three Democratic primaries, an advantage, if it holds, that would allow him to sew up the nomination. A new Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll of likely Democratic voters gives Clinton a 46 percent to 41 percent edge in Pennsylvania, and a similar 40 percent to 35 percent lead for Obama in Indiana. In North Carolina, Obama has a larger, 13- point advantage.
`To have a solid chance of winning the nomination she'd probably have to win all three'' and get ``a double-digit victory in Pennsylvania,'' says Tad Devine, a former strategist for Democrat John Kerry's 2004 presidential bid. ``If she wins just one of the three, it may be difficult if not impossible for her to continue'' and ``if she loses Pennsylvania, it's over.''
[ Bericht 9% gewijzigd door matthijst op 16-04-2008 08:09:10 ]
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
McCain koopt de verkiezing alvast.
McCain proposes consumer tax cuts to boost economy
McCain proposes consumer tax cuts to boost economy
Dit samen met het geld dat Bush de bevolking geeft laat de bevolking geen keus dan Republikeins te stemmen. Ook een prima manier om de dure benzine-prijzen aan te pakken: stimuleren meer benzine te gebruiken.quote:PITTSBURGH (Reuters) - Republican presidential hopeful John McCain proposed a summer gas tax reduction and other tax cuts on Tuesday in a bid to reassure voters he would help them navigate an ailing economy.
McCain, the expected Republican nominee for the November election, proposed the steps to boost the struggling U.S. economy, which has surpassed the Iraq war as voters' top concern.
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With gasoline prices expected to climb beyond a new high of $3.39 per gallon, he asked Congress to suspend the 18.4 cent federal gas tax and 24.4 cent diesel tax from the Memorial Day holiday at the end of May to Labor Day in early September.
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He also proposed relief for student loans and would double the personal tax exemption for dependents from $3,500 to $7,000.
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McCain said he would trim wasteful spending by $100 billion and use the savings to pay for a tax cut for corporations. He also proposed increased funding for the federal government's Medicare prescription drug program by requiring higher payments for couples who earn more than $160,000.
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
tvp 
DeLuna vindt me dik ;(
Op zondag 22 juni 2014 12:30 schreef 3rdRock het volgende:
pas als jullie gaan trouwen. nu ben je gewoon die Oom Rubber die met onze mama leuke dingen doet :)
Op zondag 22 juni 2014 12:30 schreef 3rdRock het volgende:
pas als jullie gaan trouwen. nu ben je gewoon die Oom Rubber die met onze mama leuke dingen doet :)
quote:Clinton Goes for the Knockout
Jennifer Rubin - 04.16.2008 - 8:42 AM
Hillary Clinton is now letting Barack Obama have it. Karl Rove, some think, could not have done a harsher ad on Snob-gate. She says in her latest ad that his “I don’t take money from oil companies” line is a lie, or at least an exaggeration, since no one can directly accept corporate money. (A little late, but she’s basically right.) Then, for good measure, she throws in that he voted for the Bush-Cheney energy bill.
This tells us a few things. First, Clinton thinks Obama’s brand (high-minded, honest, decent) is scuffed up and she’s going to make sure it gets permanently damaged. This is a character ad, the first one she’s used. Before learning about Snob-gate and Reverend Wright no one would have bought it. Now Clinton is hoping they will.
Second, she wants to win Pennsylvania by a healthy margin to give superdelegates something to think about. The morning after a convincing win, her refrain that Obama can’t win the big states and her argument that he can’t win working class voters will have some real oomph.
Third, she doesn’t much care if she echoes the same themes the McCain campaign is pursuing. She’s not above sinking her party in November. And if her polling (you know they poll this) says Obama is vulnerable on exactly the points the GOP is raising, then there is no reason, in her mind, to hold back.
So McCain doesn’t need his own money for an ad budget right now: he’s got Hillary’s. But if she by some miracle wins the nomination, she will be an infinitely more attractive candidate than the GOP anticipated to those critical Reagan Democrats. McCain better hope she wounds, but does not kill, her opponent. (The good news for him is that this is the most likely outcome.)
What are you going to do to me? You go fuck yourself - I say what I want.
- Oriana Fallaci 1929-2006
- Oriana Fallaci 1929-2006
Obamanieuws...
He got a vote of confidence on Wednesday from rock megastar Bruce Springsteen, who said the Illinois senator's comments on working-class voters had been ripped out of context.
"I've been following the campaign and I have now seen and heard enough to know where I stand. Senator Obama, in my view, is head and shoulders above the rest," Springsteen wrote on his website. "He speaks to the America I've envisioned in my music for the past 35 years, a generous nation with a citizenry willing to tackle nuanced and complex problems."
Obama also won backing from the American Hunters and Shooters Association, a newly formed rival to the zealously pro-gun National Rifle Association.
The AHSA endorsed Obama for president, citing his vote in 2006 for a law that forbids authorities from confiscating legally owned firearms during a Hurricane Katrina-type disaster.
"We believe recent attacks on Senator Obama's stand on the (constitutional gun rights) Second Amendment... are unfair," association president Ray Schoenke told reporters on a conference call.
"We know Senator Obama gets it. To say he is an elitist is patently ridiculous," he said, noting that Clinton had voted against the 2006 law and arguing that McCain had "flip-flopped all over the place" on gun rights.
He got a vote of confidence on Wednesday from rock megastar Bruce Springsteen, who said the Illinois senator's comments on working-class voters had been ripped out of context.
"I've been following the campaign and I have now seen and heard enough to know where I stand. Senator Obama, in my view, is head and shoulders above the rest," Springsteen wrote on his website. "He speaks to the America I've envisioned in my music for the past 35 years, a generous nation with a citizenry willing to tackle nuanced and complex problems."
Obama also won backing from the American Hunters and Shooters Association, a newly formed rival to the zealously pro-gun National Rifle Association.
The AHSA endorsed Obama for president, citing his vote in 2006 for a law that forbids authorities from confiscating legally owned firearms during a Hurricane Katrina-type disaster.
"We believe recent attacks on Senator Obama's stand on the (constitutional gun rights) Second Amendment... are unfair," association president Ray Schoenke told reporters on a conference call.
"We know Senator Obama gets it. To say he is an elitist is patently ridiculous," he said, noting that Clinton had voted against the 2006 law and arguing that McCain had "flip-flopped all over the place" on gun rights.
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
Ik ben nog aan het wachten op beelden van een gewapende Clinton en / of Obama op een schietbaan! Dat zit er zeker aan te komen nu 
John Stewart haalde eergisteren dat hele elitist gezeur wel mooi onderuit. 
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
Laat het maar aan de media over om Obama's blunders weg te poetsen.quote:Op woensdag 16 april 2008 22:13 schreef popolon het volgende:
John Stewart haalde eergisteren dat hele elitist gezeur wel mooi onderuit.
Good intentions and tender feelings may do credit to those who possess them, but they often lead to ineffective — or positively destructive — policies ... Kevin D. Williamson
Het debat is al een klein uur aan de gang, te zien via www.abclocal.go.com/wpvi
Eerste half uur zat vol vuurwerk, eindelijk wat kritische vragen voor Obama over Wright en zelfs zijn associatie met terrorist William Ayers en het niet dragen van een flag pin, terwijl Clinton nog eens Bosnia voor de kiezen kreeg.
Eerste half uur zat vol vuurwerk, eindelijk wat kritische vragen voor Obama over Wright en zelfs zijn associatie met terrorist William Ayers en het niet dragen van een flag pin, terwijl Clinton nog eens Bosnia voor de kiezen kreeg.
Ah gut.quote:Op woensdag 16 april 2008 23:54 schreef Lyrebird het volgende:
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Laat het maar aan de media over om Obama's blunders weg te poetsen.
't Zal wel weer te liberaal zijn. Nou als conservatief rechts ook nog iets leuks heeft op tv houd ik me in ieder geval aanbevolen. Zal zoeken worden denk ik.
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
Glenn Beck op CNN (communist network)? Die is conservatief maar verder heel redelijk.quote:Op donderdag 17 april 2008 03:11 schreef popolon het volgende:
Nou als conservatief rechts ook nog iets leuks heeft op tv houd ik me in ieder geval aanbevolen.
Good intentions and tender feelings may do credit to those who possess them, but they often lead to ineffective — or positively destructive — policies ... Kevin D. Williamson
Tjemig Lyre, CNN een commie network noemen, ik dacht dat alleen de sjonnies en andere simpele zielen onder de GOP'ers dat deden.
't Debat is zoals altijd vrij saai. Ik ga weer sport kijken.
't Debat is zoals altijd vrij saai. Ik ga weer sport kijken.
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
Tja, ik ben er eentje van het gewone volk. Not another Obama.quote:Op donderdag 17 april 2008 03:32 schreef popolon het volgende:
Tjemig Lyre, CNN een commie network noemen, ik dacht dat alleen de sjonnies en andere simpele zielen onder de GOP'ers dat deden.
't Debat is zoals altijd vrij saai. Ik ga weer sport kijken.
Good intentions and tender feelings may do credit to those who possess them, but they often lead to ineffective — or positively destructive — policies ... Kevin D. Williamson
Red Sox staan achter tegen de Yankees.
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
Darn. Yankees suck.quote:Op donderdag 17 april 2008 04:48 schreef popolon het volgende:
Red Sox staan achter tegen de Yankees.
Ik heb geen enkele Yankee of Red Sox in m'n fantasy team.
Good intentions and tender feelings may do credit to those who possess them, but they often lead to ineffective — or positively destructive — policies ... Kevin D. Williamson
Toch is Dick Cheney best grappig. Nu op Fox: Dick Cheney speaks at annual radio & tv correspondents dinner.
Good intentions and tender feelings may do credit to those who possess them, but they often lead to ineffective — or positively destructive — policies ... Kevin D. Williamson
Ach gut, Clinton stapt van haar standaard bullshitlijntje af: Hillary said Wednesday night that Barack Obama can win the White House this fall, undercutting her efforts to deny him the Democratic presidential nomination by suggesting he would lead the party to defeat.
"Yes, yes, yes," she said.
"Yes, yes, yes," she said.
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
Ach, dat krijgen ze in de herfst wel terugbetaald. Kom er maar in, Karl.quote:Op woensdag 16 april 2008 23:54 schreef Lyrebird het volgende:
Laat het maar aan de media over om Obama's blunders weg te poetsen.
What are you going to do to me? You go fuck yourself - I say what I want.
- Oriana Fallaci 1929-2006
- Oriana Fallaci 1929-2006
Ik moet zeggen, Republikeinen hebben een aparte vorm van humor. George W. Bush vindt het leuk grapjes te maken over niet gevonden massavernietigingswapens, terwijl daarom honderdduizenden mensen zijn afgeslacht; John McCain vindt het erg grappig om te zingen over een land bombarderen; en Dick Cheney krijgt de hele zaal plat door een grap te maken over een incident waarbij het slachtoffer bijna overleden is.quote:Op donderdag 17 april 2008 06:46 schreef Lyrebird het volgende:
Toch is Dick Cheney best grappig. Nu op Fox: Dick Cheney speaks at annual radio & tv correspondents dinner.
Best grappig.
quote:Op donderdag 17 april 2008 07:21 schreef WammesWaggel het volgende:
Linkje naar het laatste debat? op Youtube staat hij niet
http://www.editorandpubli(...)ontent_id=1003790556quote:In perhaps the most embarrassing performance by the media in a major presidential debate in years, ABC News hosts Charles Gibson and George Stephanopolous focused mainly on trivial issues as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama faced off in Philadelphia.
Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the health care and mortgage crises, the overall state of the economy and dozens of other pressing issues had to wait for their few moments in the sun as Obama was pressed to explain his recent "bitter" gaffe and relationship with Rev. Wright (seemingly a dead issue) and not wearing a flag pin while Clinton had to answer again for her Bosnia trip exaggerations.
Then it was back to Obama to defend his slim association with a former '60s radical -- a question that came out of rightwing talk radio and Sean Hannity on TV, but delivered by former Bill Clinton aide Stephanopolous. This approach led to a claim that Clinton's husband pardoned two other '60s radicals. And so on.
More time was spent on all of this than segments on getting out of Iraq and keeping people from losing their homes and other key issues. Gibson only got excited when he complained about anyone daring to raise taxes on his capital gains.
Yet neither candidate had the courage to ask the moderators to turn to those far more important issues. But some in the crowd did -- booing Gibson near the end.
To top it off, here is David Brooks' review at The New York Times: "I thought the questions were excellent." He gave ABC an "A."
