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  Moderator / Redactie Sport / Weblog woensdag 26 maart 2008 @ 16:14:43 #51
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In Volendam hoef je bijvoorbeeld maar 2 generaties terug om te concluderen dat iedereen familie is
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Op zondag 22 juni 2014 12:30 schreef 3rdRock het volgende:
pas als jullie gaan trouwen. nu ben je gewoon die Oom Rubber die met onze mama leuke dingen doet :)
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Op woensdag 26 maart 2008 12:21 schreef Klopkoek het volgende:

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In de VS heeft de ELITE het voor het zeggen.
Obama and Bush are 10th cousins, once removed, linked by Samuel Hinkley, who died in 1662.
  woensdag 26 maart 2008 @ 16:49:27 #53
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...en Hillary is gerelateerd aan Madonna, Angelina Jolie en Celine Dion
Vandaar haar vreemde keuze voor haar theme-song die overigens vrij snel weer afgeserveerd werd
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Op woensdag 26 maart 2008 12:21 schreef Klopkoek het volgende:

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In de VS heeft de ELITE het voor het zeggen.
  woensdag 26 maart 2008 @ 22:35:27 #55
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THROW GRANDMA UNDER THE BUS
March 19, 2008


Obama gave a nice speech, except for everything he said about race. He apparently believes we're not talking enough about race. This is like hearing Britney Spears say we're not talking enough about pop-tarts with substance-abuse problems.

By now, the country has spent more time talking about race than John Kerry has talked about Vietnam, John McCain has talked about being a POW, John Edwards has talked about his dead son, and Al Franken has talked about his USO tours.

But the "post-racial candidate" thinks we need to talk yet more about race. How much more? I had had my fill by around 1974. How long must we all marinate in the angry resentment of black people?

As an authentic post-racial American, I will not patronize blacks by pretending Obama's pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is anything other than a raving racist loon. If a white pastor had said what Rev. Wright said -- not about black people, but literally, the exact same things -- I think we'd notice that he's crazier than Ward Churchill and David Duke's love child. (Indeed, both Churchill and the Rev. Wright referred to the attacks of 9/11 as the chickens coming "home to roost.")

Imagine a white pastor saying: "Racism is the American way. Racism is how this country was founded, and how this country is still run. ... We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority. And believe it more than we believe in God."

Imagine a white pastor calling Condoleezza Rice, "Condoskeezza Rice."

Imagine a white pastor saying: "No, no, no, God damn America -- that's in the Bible for killing innocent people! God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human! God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme!"

We treat blacks like children, constantly talking about their temper tantrums right in front of them with airy phrases about black anger. I will not pat blacks on the head and say, "Isn't that cute?" As a post-racial American, I do not believe "the legacy of slavery" gives black people the right to be permanently ill-mannered.

Obama tried to justify Wright's deranged rants by explaining that "legalized discrimination" is the "reality in which Rev. Wright and other African-Americans of his generation grew up." He said that a "lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one's family, contributed to the erosion of black families."

That may accurately describe the libretto of "Porgy and Bess," but it has no connection to reality. By Rev. Wright's own account, he was 12 years old and was attending an integrated school in Philadelphia when Brown v. Board of Education was announced, ending "separate but equal" schooling.

Meanwhile, at least since the Supreme Court's decision in University of California v. Bakke in 1978 -- and obviously long before that, or there wouldn't have been a case or controversy for the court to consider -- it has been legal for the government to discriminate against whites on the basis of their race.

Consequently, any white person 30 years old or younger has lived, since the day he was born, in an America where it is legal to discriminate against white people. In many cases it's not just legal, but mandatory, for example, in education, in hiring and in Academy Award nominations.

So for half of Rev. Wright's 66 years, discrimination against blacks was legal -- though he never experienced it personally because it existed in a part of the country where he did not live. For the second half of Wright's life, discrimination against whites was legal throughout the land.

Discrimination has become so openly accepted that -- in a speech meant to tamp down his association with a black racist -- Obama felt perfectly comfortable throwing his white grandmother under the bus. He used her as the white racist counterpart to his black racist "old uncle," Rev. Wright.

First of all, Wright is not Obama's uncle. The only reason we indulge crazy uncles is that everyone understands that people don't choose their relatives the way they choose, for example, their pastors and mentors. No one quarrels with the idea that you can't be expected to publicly denounce your blood relatives.

But Wright is not a relative of Obama's at all. Yet Obama cravenly compared Wright's racist invective to his actual grandmother, who "once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

Rev. Wright accuses white people of inventing AIDS to kill black men, but Obama's grandmother -- who raised him, cooked his food, tucked him in at night, and paid for his clothes and books and private school -- has expressed the same feelings about passing black men on the street that Jesse Jackson has.

Unlike his "old uncle" -- who is not his uncle -- Obama had no excuses for his grandmother. Obama's grandmother never felt the lash of discrimination! Crazy grandma doesn't get the same pass as the crazy uncle; she's white. Denounce the racist!

Fine. Can we move on now?

No, of course, not. It never ends. To be fair, Obama hinted that we might have one way out: If we elect him president, then maybe, just maybe, we can stop talking about race.
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Van wie is dat (prima) stuk, PJO?
Good intentions and tender feelings may do credit to those who possess them, but they often lead to ineffective — or positively destructive — policies ... Kevin D. Williamson
  woensdag 26 maart 2008 @ 22:56:52 #57
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Op woensdag 26 maart 2008 22:53 schreef Lyrebird het volgende:
Van wie is dat (prima) stuk, PJO?
Ann Coulter. Serieus.
What are you going to do to me? You go fuck yourself - I say what I want.
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Op woensdag 26 maart 2008 22:56 schreef PJORourke het volgende:

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Ann Coulter. Serieus.
Pluimpje voor Ann.
Good intentions and tender feelings may do credit to those who possess them, but they often lead to ineffective — or positively destructive — policies ... Kevin D. Williamson
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Hillary is "een robot ontstaan uit marktonderzoek" . P&W nu .
Op maandag 30 november 2009 19:30 schreef Ian_Nick het volgende:
Pietje's hobby is puzzelen en misschien ben jij wel het laatste stukje O+
  woensdag 26 maart 2008 @ 23:19:35 #60
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Fetchez la vache!
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Ann 'crazy ass bitch' Coulter.

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to christianity". Die Ann Coulter.

[ Bericht 32% gewijzigd door popolon op 26-03-2008 23:26:35 ]
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
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Op woensdag 26 maart 2008 23:19 schreef popolon het volgende:
Ann 'crazy ass bitch' Coulter.

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to christianity". Die Ann Coulter.
Ik zeg niet dat ik het altijd met haar eens ben, maar dit is gewoon een goed stuk.
Good intentions and tender feelings may do credit to those who possess them, but they often lead to ineffective — or positively destructive — policies ... Kevin D. Williamson
  woensdag 26 maart 2008 @ 23:55:34 #62
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En meer Wright:
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(CNSNews.com) - Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., pastor emeritus of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago where Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) has been a member for two decades, slurred Italians in a piece published in the most recent issue of Trumpet Newsmagazine.

"(Jesus') enemies had their opinion about Him," Wright wrote in a eulogy of the late scholar Asa Hilliard in the November/December 2007 issue. "The Italians for the most part looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans."

Wright continued, "From the circumstances surrounding Jesus' birth (in a barn in a township that was under the Apartheid Roman government that said his daddy had to be in), up to and including the circumstances surrounding Jesus' death on a cross, a Roman cross, public lynching Italian style. ...

"He refused to be defined by others and Dr. Asa Hilliard also refused to be defined by others. The government runs everything from the White House to the schoolhouse, from the Capitol to the Klan, white supremacy is clearly in charge, but Asa, like Jesus, refused to be defined by an oppressive government because Asa got his identity from an Omnipotent God."
Wat een crackpot.
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  donderdag 27 maart 2008 @ 03:35:14 #63
171097 Charles.Darwin
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Elke mening is te koop, en een dreigement werkt ook altijd:
Clinton Donors Ask Pelosi to Back Off

Waar is de democratie?
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Op donderdag 27 maart 2008 03:35 schreef Charles.Darwin het volgende:
Elke mening is te koop, en een dreigement werkt ook altijd:
Clinton Donors Ask Pelosi to Back Off

Waar is de democratie?
Wat is het probleem dan?
  donderdag 27 maart 2008 @ 13:29:50 #65
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Op donderdag 27 maart 2008 13:13 schreef Evil_Jur het volgende:

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Wat is het probleem dan?
Geldschieters van Hillary die dreigen hun donatie aan de democratische partij te stoppen als Pelosi haar standpunt betreffende delegates en superdelagates niet aanpast. Hillary maakt alleen nog maar een kans als delegates (mogen) switchen tijdens de democratische conventie in augustus.

Het probleem is dat een klein groepje rijke mensen kan bepalen wie er president wordt. Als Pelosi niet krachtig afstand neemt van deze mensen, zie ik dat als de doodsteek voor de democratie in de VS.
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  donderdag 27 maart 2008 @ 13:32:10 #66
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Fetchez la vache!
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Op woensdag 26 maart 2008 23:45 schreef Lyrebird het volgende:

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Ik zeg niet dat ik het altijd met haar eens ben, maar dit is gewoon een goed stuk.
Zij heeft al zoveel dubieuze, er zijn velen die zullen zeggen nazistische, uitspraken gedaan dat ik op tilt sla als ik haar zie Lyre. Ik kan die feeks niet uitstaan.
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
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Ann Coulter is een van de vele Jeremiah Wrights van rechts-conservatief Amerika, alleen hoef je bij haar niet in een archief van dertig jaar te zoeken om vijf minuten extremistisch gebazel op Youtube te kunnen zetten...
  donderdag 27 maart 2008 @ 13:37:55 #68
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Op donderdag 27 maart 2008 13:36 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Ann Coulter is een van de vele Jeremiah Wrights van rechts-conservatief Amerika, alleen hoef je bij haar niet in een archief van dertig jaar te zoeken om vijf minuten extremistisch gebazel op Youtube te kunnen zetten...


't Is wel zo, ze steekt 't niet onder stoelen of banken.
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
  donderdag 27 maart 2008 @ 14:08:13 #69
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Op donderdag 27 maart 2008 13:36 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Ann Coulter is een van de vele Jeremiah Wrights van rechts-conservatief Amerika, alleen hoef je bij haar niet in een archief van dertig jaar te zoeken om vijf minuten extremistisch gebazel op Youtube te kunnen zetten...
Maar ze steunt Billary...
What are you going to do to me? You go fuck yourself - I say what I want.
- Oriana Fallaci 1929-2006
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Op donderdag 27 maart 2008 14:08 schreef PJORourke het volgende:

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Maar ze steunt Billary...
Waarom eigenlijk, is McCain niet gestoord christelijk genoeg ofzo?
Volkorenbrood: "Geen quotes meer in jullie sigs gaarne."
  donderdag 27 maart 2008 @ 15:02:12 #71
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Op donderdag 27 maart 2008 13:29 schreef Charles.Darwin het volgende:

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Geldschieters van Hillary die dreigen hun donatie aan de democratische partij te stoppen als Pelosi haar standpunt betreffende delegates en superdelagates niet aanpast. Hillary maakt alleen nog maar een kans als delegates (mogen) switchen tijdens de democratische conventie in augustus.
De superdelegates zijn in 1984 ingesteld als stok achter de deur om nog een keer een McGovern of Mondale te voorkomen, die nauwelijks 1 staat wonnen.

Het zou van de gekke zijn als die als klapvee met zijn 800-en alleen voor de degene met de meeste pledged delegates zouden moeten stemmen, als in de statuten staat dat ze vrij zijn te kiezen wie ze willen (zeker nu de race zo close is).

Pelosi moet in deze dus neutraal blijven, want haar huidige standpunt is een verkapte endorsement van Obama.
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Als je dan toch een provocerend stukje over Obama's priestertje wilt schrijven:
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It's been more than a month since I began warning Sen. Barack Obama that he would become answerable for his revolting choice of a family priest. But never mind that; the astonishing thing is that it's at least 11 months since he himself has known precisely the same thing. "If Barack gets past the primary," said the Rev. Jeremiah Wright to the New York Times in April of last year, "he might have to publicly distance himself from me. I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen." Pause just for a moment, if only to admire the sheer calculating self-confidence of this. Sen. Obama has long known perfectly well, in other words, that he'd one day have to put some daylight between himself and a bigmouth Farrakhan fan. But he felt he needed his South Side Chicago "base" in the meantime. So he coldly decided to double-cross that bridge when he came to it. And now we are all supposed to marvel at the silky success of the maneuver.

You often hear it said, of some political or other opportunist, that he would sell his own grandmother if it would suit his interests. But you seldom, if ever, see this notorious transaction actually being performed, which is why I am slightly surprised that Obama got away with it so easily. (Yet why do I say I am surprised? He still gets away with absolutely everything.)

Looking for a moral equivalent to a professional demagogue who thinks that AIDS and drugs are the result of a conspiracy by the white man, Obama settled on an 85-year-old lady named Madelyn Dunham, who spent a good deal of her youth helping to raise him and who now lives alone and unwell in a condo in Honolulu. It would be interesting to know whether her charismatic grandson made her aware that he was about to touch her with his grace and make her famous in this way. By sheer good fortune, she, too, could be a part of it all and serve her turn in the great enhancement.

This flabbergasting process, made up of glibness and ruthlessness in equal proportions, rolls on unstoppably with a phalanx of reporters and men of the cloth as its accomplices. Look at the accepted choice of words for the ravings of Jeremiah Wright: controversial, incendiary, inflammatory. These are adjectives that might have been—and were—applied to many eloquent speakers of the early civil rights movement. (In the Washington Post, for Good Friday last, the liberal Catholic apologist E.J. Dionne lamely attempted to stretch this very comparison.) But is it "inflammatory" to say that AIDS and drugs are wrecking the black community because the white power structure wishes it? No. Nor is it "controversial." It is wicked and stupid and false to say such a thing. And it not unimportantly negates everything that Obama says he stands for by way of advocating dignity and responsibility over the sick cults of paranoia and victimhood.

That same supposed message of his is also contradicted in a different way by trying to put Geraldine Ferraro on all fours with a thug like Obama's family "pastor." Ferraro may have sounded sour when she asserted that there can be political advantages to being black in the United States—and she said the selfsame thing about Jesse Jackson in 1984—but it's perfectly arguable that what she said is, in fact, true, and even if it isn't true, it's absurd to try and classify it as a racist remark. No doubt Obama's slick people were looking for a revenge for Samantha Power (who, incidentally, ought never to have been let go for the useful and indeed audacious truths that she uttered in Britain), but their news-cycle solution was to cover their own queasy cowardice in that case by feigning outrage in the Ferraro matter. The consequence, which you can already feel, is an inchoate resentment among many white voters who are damned if they will be called bigots by a man who associates with Jeremiah Wright. So here we go with all that again. And this is the fresh, clean, new post-racial politics?

Now, by way of which vent or orifice is this venom creeping back into our national bloodstream? Where is hatred and tribalism and ignorance most commonly incubated, and from which platform is it most commonly yelled? If you answered "the churches" and "the pulpits," you got both answers right. The Ku Klux Klan (originally a Protestant identity movement, as many people prefer to forget) and the Nation of Islam (a black sectarian mutation of Quranic teaching) may be weak these days, but bigotry of all sorts is freely available, and openly inculcated into children, by any otherwise unemployable dirtbag who can perform the easy feat of putting Reverend in front of his name. And this clerical vileness has now reached the point of disfiguring the campaigns of both leading candidates for our presidency. If you think Jeremiah Wright is gruesome, wait until you get a load of the next Chicago "Reverend," one James Meeks, another South Side horror show with a special sideline in the baiting of homosexuals. He, too, has been an Obama supporter, and his church has been an occasional recipient of Obama's patronage. And perhaps he, too, can hope to be called "controversial" for his use of the term house nigger to describe those he doesn't like and for his view that it was "the Hollywood Jews" who brought us Brokeback Mountain. Meanwhile, the Republican nominee adorns himself with two further reverends: one named John Hagee, who thinks that the pope is the Antichrist, and another named Rod Parsley, who has declared that the United States has a mission to obliterate Islam. Is it conceivable that such repellent dolts would be allowed into public life if they were not in tax-free clerical garb? How true it is that religion poisons everything.

And what a shame. I assume you all have your copies of The Audacity of Hope in paperback breviary form. If you turn to the chapter entitled "Faith," beginning on Page 195, and read as far as Page 208, I think that even if you don't concur with my reading, you may suspect that I am onto something. In these pages, Sen. Obama is telling us that he doesn't really have any profound religious belief, but that in his early Chicago days he felt he needed to acquire some spiritual "street cred." The most excruciatingly embarrassing endorsement of this same viewpoint came last week from Abigail Thernstrom at National Review Online. Overcome by "the speech" that the divine one had given in Philadelphia, she urged us to be understanding. "Obama's description of the parishioners in his church gave white listeners a glimpse of a world of faith (with 'raucous laughter and sometimes bawdy humor … dancing, clapping, screaming, and shouting') that has been the primary means of black survival and uplift." A glimpse, huh? What the hell next? A tribute to the African-American sense of rhythm?

To have accepted Obama's smooth apologetics is to have lowered one's own pre-existing standards for what might constitute a post-racial or a post-racist future. It is to have put that quite sober and realistic hope, meanwhile, into untrustworthy and unscrupulous hands. And it is to have done this, furthermore, in the service of blind faith. Mark my words: This disappointment is only the first of many that are still to come.
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  donderdag 27 maart 2008 @ 15:24:49 #73
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Op donderdag 27 maart 2008 15:02 schreef Perico het volgende:

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De superdelegates zijn in 1984 ingesteld als stok achter de deur om nog een keer een McGovern of Mondale te voorkomen, die nauwelijks 1 staat wonnen.

Het zou van de gekke zijn als die als klapvee met zijn 800-en alleen voor de degene met de meeste pledged delegates zouden moeten stemmen, als in de statuten staat dat ze vrij zijn te kiezen wie ze willen (zeker nu de race zo close is).

Pelosi moet in deze dus neutraal blijven, want haar huidige standpunt is een verkapte endorsement van Obama.
Deze brief impliceert dat Pelosi moet zeggen dat juist de pleged delegates mogen switchen van kandidaat tijdens het congres, in plaats van netjes te stemmen op de keuze van de kiezer. De superdelegates zijn in alle gevallen vrij om te doen wat ze zelf willen, en zelfs met de superdelegates gaat Hillary het verliezen. Vandaar dat ze nu zo krampachtig probeert het democratische proces te ondermijnen.

In mijn ogen sterken al deze actie's de nieuwe politiek die Obama predikt: Een schone lei, weg met de vriendjespolitiek en verandering. Maar mijn ogen zijn niet de ogen van de gemiddelde Amerikaan, dat heb ik vier jaar geleden al ondervonden bij de herverkiezing van Bush :/
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  donderdag 27 maart 2008 @ 15:33:38 #74
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Op donderdag 27 maart 2008 15:24 schreef Charles.Darwin het volgende:

De superdelegates zijn in alle gevallen vrij om te doen wat ze zelf willen, en zelfs met de superdelegates gaat Hillary het verliezen. Vandaar dat ze nu zo krampachtig probeert het democratische proces te ondermijnen.
Dat vind ik vreemd, er zijn 796 superdelegates en na alle primaries staat ze misschien minder dan 100 pledged delegates achter en dan weet je nu al dat ze het daarop zou verliezen?

Je ziet wat er deze maand met het settlen van de stemmen in Iowa is gebeurd, Obama heeft er een paar delegates bij gekregen, omdat ze een paar Edwards delegates zover hebben gekregen. Die zijn bestookt met telefoontjes door beide kampen. Deze week gaat men de gedelegeerden van Texas seaten, gewone burgers, die soms bij toeval delegate zijn geworden en beinvloedbaar zijn.

Het is dus politieke realiteit dat er aan iedereen wordt getrokken, net zoals Groen Links een Eerste Kamerlid minder heeft door een fout van een Statenlid bij het stemmen. Daar loeren de Obama en Clinton campagne ook op.
  donderdag 27 maart 2008 @ 15:49:36 #75
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Op donderdag 27 maart 2008 15:33 schreef Perico het volgende:

Het is dus politieke realiteit dat er aan iedereen wordt getrokken, net zoals Groen Links een Eerste Kamerlid minder heeft door een fout van een Statenlid bij het stemmen.
Het was overigens de PvdD die een zetel misliep door de fout van een Groenlinkse.
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