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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 02:15 schreef WallOfStars het volgende:
this is from 2005, overflights

http://community.webshots.com/album/263351571mCGylP

But not the entire island en some angels need to be changed.
Thx, but i was looking for the area of the v/d Sloot place, there is a building construction site there now but i wanted to know how this was back in 2005. Would be a good place to burry a body...
  † In Memoriam † woensdag 13 februari 2008 @ 02:36:20 #102
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@Observer

If you can copy and paste my posts on FOK onto SM (selective however) maybe you can also give me an answer on my question

Was this looked into?

FBI statement Whatley



WHATLEY advised the security guard at the hotel were suspicious during their stau n Aruba. While WHATLEY, LEE ASHFORD, MCVEIGH, and HOLLOWAY were taking a nap one afternoon, someone tried to open the sliding glass door to the hotel room. The curtain was half drawn on the door when they saw an arm pulling on the door, she told he others ahe saw a "dark uniform go around a corner". WHATLEY advised the security guards at the hotel wore dark uniforms.

WHATLEY advised their was a weird message on the phone of their horel room. A woman voice left a message and called twice for "ROSEMARY", one of the girls on the trip. The message said ROSEMARY was scheduled for a massage of the hotel property.
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I have not studied anthropology to know what that bone was,so I told you exactly what was reported. First it was a simian(Monkey Bone)then it was a human prop,now the Venezuelan Authorities say a pelican bone. Whatever it was it is long gone now,but there was another pic on the net and those certainly appear to be fingers and not a hoov like the picture you showed or whatever it is called. Certainly appears to be a primate if you ask me as well as many others.

As for the tarp I have no idea like I stated if it has anything to do with this case. In the very beginning of 2005,3 seperate people claimed to see a woman wrapped in a blue tarp and a white pickup truck being used the day she dissapeared. One of those people claimed to even help bury her. That is why I showed that picture. I have no clue what is in that tarp if anything.
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
  woensdag 13 februari 2008 @ 02:46:05 #104
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These are my search results when I search for 'pelican bone' sorry I couldn't find a more clear photo.. but here you can see the fingers, so the other picture must have had some parts missing or something.
Now you're talkin' Jackanese.
  † In Memoriam † woensdag 13 februari 2008 @ 02:50:14 #105
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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 02:37 schreef observer777 het volgende:
I have not studied anthropology to know what that bone was,so I told you exactly what was reported. First it was a simian(Monkey Bone)then it was a human prop,now the Venezuelan Authorities say a pelican bone. Whatever it was it is long gone now,but there was another pic on the net and those certainly appear to be fingers and not a hoov like the picture you showed or whatever it is called. Certainly appears to be a primate if you ask me as well as many others.

As for the tarp I have no idea like I stated if it has anything to do with this case. In the very beginning of 2005,3 seperate people claimed to see a woman wrapped in a blue tarp and a white pickup truck being used the day she dissapeared. One of those people claimed to even help bury her. That is why I showed that picture. I have no clue what is in that tarp if anything.
What's a hoov? The pic I showed is a pelican bone

I hope you don't feel "attacked" again by my post because I do feel an undertone here... I really just wanted to know if you knew (or SM for that matter) what was in that tarp? But hey, you don't know. Anyway, thanks for answering my question
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BwennieBren

You clearly have another agenda and it is quite obvious. Yes I copied Mr.Van Nie's post that you took from his website and translated it,which I have done in the past from his website. I am sure that statement was looked into,what the results were I have no clue. I do not work for the FBI,ALE or KLPD. I would like to know the what the results were of that PV myself. I think the phone call is very strange.

I would also like to know who Natalee had lunch with,and if that person is related to one of the suspects or witnesses. As well as about a hundred unanswered questions,like if that is PVDS seen at the casino talking to Natalee hours before she vanished.

"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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Just a question: is valium the same as GHB or rohypnoll?
  woensdag 13 februari 2008 @ 03:00:13 #108
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Welcome Mr. President, How can we serve you,
  † In Memoriam † woensdag 13 februari 2008 @ 03:01:41 #109
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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 02:52 schreef observer777 het volgende:
BwennieBren

You clearly have another agenda and it is quite obvious. Yes I copied Mr.Van Nie's post that you took from his website and translated it,which I have done in the past from his website. I am sure that statement was looked into,what the results were I have no clue. I do not work for the FBI,ALE or KLPD. I would like to know the what the results were of that PV myself. I think the phone call is very strange.

I would also like to know who Natalee had lunch with,and if that person is related to one of the suspects or witnesses. As well as about a hundred unanswered questions,like if that is PVDS seen at the casino talking to Natalee hours before she vanished.

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Jeeez come on Observer, I am just like you said you are: sceptical and I cannot agree with all your findings but some of them are interesting. Pffff.... I wrote that down,.... I guess 4 times now?FYI, I also would like to see this case solved. Wel;, in that we agree right? However, if you think I clearly have another agenda, well dear,.... whatever rocks your world
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  † In Memoriam † woensdag 13 februari 2008 @ 03:02:23 #110
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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 02:59 schreef letsgetthiscasesolved het volgende:
Just a question: is valium the same as GHB or rohypnoll?
Nope, definitely not. Why do you ask?
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  woensdag 13 februari 2008 @ 03:05:17 #111
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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 02:59 schreef letsgetthiscasesolved het volgende:
Just a question: is valium the same as GHB or rohypnoll?
Close to Rohypnol :

As a date rape drug
The drug has been referred to in the media as a date rape drug, in much the same way as alcohol and Rohypnol. As it is colourless and odorless,[23] it has been described as "very easy to add to drinks".[23] GHB has been used in many cases of drug-related sexual assault, usually when the victim is vulnerable due to intoxication with a sedative, generally alcohol or more rarely cannabis, and as such are less likely to notice a strange taste to his or her drink.[24] However it is difficult to establish how often GHB is used to facilitate rape as it is difficult to detect in a urine sample after a day, and many victims may not recall the rape until some time after this.[25] GHB produced as a sodium salt (sodium oxybate) may provide a noticeable salty character to the drink, although individual sensitivity to the taste of salt varies[26]. GHB can also be produced as different salts, some of which may not have a taste as distinctive as the sodium salt (e.g., magnesium oxybate), or much less commonly in the unstable free-acid form.[27]

Source Wikipedia
Welcome Mr. President, How can we serve you,
  † In Memoriam † woensdag 13 februari 2008 @ 03:05:46 #112
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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 02:59 schreef letsgetthiscasesolved het volgende:
Just a question: is valium the same as GHB or rohypnoll?
In Dutch

GHB = http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-hydroxybutaanzuur

Valium = http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diazepam

Rohypnol = http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flunitrazepam
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  woensdag 13 februari 2008 @ 03:10:49 #113
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Factual, I think.
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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 03:05 schreef WallOfStars het volgende:

Close to Rohypnol :

As a date rape drug
The drug has been referred to in the media as a date rape drug, in much the same way as alcohol and Rohypnol. As it is colourless and odorless,[23] it has been described as "very easy to add to drinks".[23] GHB has been used in many cases of drug-related sexual assault, usually when the victim is vulnerable due to intoxication with a sedative, generally alcohol or more rarely cannabis, and as such are less likely to notice a strange taste to his or her drink.[24] However it is difficult to establish how often GHB is used to facilitate rape as it is difficult to detect in a urine sample after a day, and many victims may not recall the rape until some time after this.[25] GHB produced as a sodium salt (sodium oxybate) may provide a noticeable salty character to the drink, although individual sensitivity to the taste of salt varies[26]. GHB can also be produced as different salts, some of which may not have a taste as distinctive as the sodium salt (e.g., magnesium oxybate), or much less commonly in the unstable free-acid form.[27]

Source Wikipedia
Don't be daft.
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
  † In Memoriam † woensdag 13 februari 2008 @ 03:11:33 #114
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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 02:46 schreef I.B het volgende:
[ afbeelding ]

These are my search results when I search for 'pelican bone' sorry I couldn't find a more clear photo.. but here you can see the fingers, so the other picture must have had some parts missing or something.
Thanks a pelican feet has 4 fingers, so I see...
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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 02:59 schreef letsgetthiscasesolved het volgende:
Just a question: is valium the same as GHB or rohypnoll?
Well, they differ quite a bit. With Valium being the least powerful and Rohypnoll being the most effective rape drug of the three as it can cause short term memory loss. GHB tends to be liquid instead of in pill form, so it's easier to get an overdose from GHB then from Rohypnol. They can all be pretty lethal and/or cause seizures in combination with alcohol.

[ Bericht 3% gewijzigd door Gabry op 13-02-2008 03:20:46 ]
Dan hoopt gij vurige kolen op zijn hoofd.
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Excellent video from dutch show aboard the persistence.

http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=6472985



[ Bericht 22% gewijzigd door observer777 op 13-02-2008 03:53:52 ]
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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Ok all, thanks I'm just looking for some clues about the Johan Stellingwerf case and Joran Van der sloot, JS was always called the ghb raper and now they call him the Valium rapist in dutch newspapers some hours ago.
Some coincidenses:
-He , JoHan never claimed he did it
-Not only his dad but also his mother is a lawyer
-JoHan is agressive, has a two persons in one kind of appereance.
-and so on

He is convicted to prison for 10 years.The thing is, all(well let's say most they still search for his story about one girl which died) are still alive and they could say:'That's the guy who did this to me'
This case needs IMO just only one person who says: Yes, I went out with ... and next morning I was a mess and I cant remember a thing, and my friends saw the unit I was with last night before I left...
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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 01:22 schreef Caesu het volgende:

[..]

i don't necessarily think that is going to happen.
i am just saying in that region there are a lot more interests than just joran van der sloot.

it is not the quietest part of the world.

if aruba was lying just of the coast of antarctica it would have been an whole different story.
just yesterday chávez was threatening to cut the oil supply to the usa for example.

i am sure chávez has never heard about joran. but IF all of a sudden a corruption scandal comes to light on aruba, i am sure he will take notice.

maybe i am writing in a way that i think that this is really going to happen.
well, i doubt that is going to happen - because it is in a lot of parties interest that it is NOT going to happen.

governments have always a lot of plans ready in case something is going happen.
like contingency plans in case this happens, and that party does that - and then this etc.

for example, the usa had since 1930 'war plan red' ready to attack canada!
http://www.washingtonpost(...)005122901412_pf.html
top-secret: declassified in the seventies.

i am sure countries, especially in volatile regions have a lot of contingency plans ready for all kind of scenario's.
remember venezuela is part of the 'beyond the axis of evil' group.
the usa is waging a so called 'war on drugs' in colombia.

to quote joran: "Joran Forc@ Barc@!! Schaak Master, altijd 1 stap voor"

i am just trying to think how this could turn out.
I think this has the makings of an 'unsolved crime'. There are a lot of these crimes. As there are a lot of suspisious disappearances. Sometimes they are solved, sometimes they're not.
I´m back.
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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 03:39 schreef letsgetthiscasesolved het volgende:
Ok all, thanks I'm just looking for some clues about the Johan Stellingwerf case and Joran Van der sloot, JS was always called the ghb raper and now they call him the Valium rapist in dutch newspapers some hours ago.
Some coincidenses:
-He , JoHan never claimed he did it
-Not only his dad but also his mother is a lawyer
-JoHan is agressive, has a two persons in one kind of appereance.
-and so on

He is convicted to prison for 10 years.The thing is, all(well let's say most they still search for his story about one girl which died) are still alive and they could say:'That's the guy who did this to me'
This case needs IMO just only one person who says: Yes, I went out with ... and next morning I was a mess and I cant remember a thing, and my friends saw the unit I was with last night before I left...
Observer777..will you ask this to the SM board? I'm not Adrian Monk but I read more about girls in this state at SM, that's why I am figuring if...
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Is there btw any statement of Geert Wilders known on this subject?
I´m back.
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Sorry, I said this too direct, 'more about girls in this state at SM, that's why I am figuring if...' means I read stories about girls that had the same experience on ...please 'aruba' or a cruiseship or so...or...
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Ryan3:LOL..he should..roversnest
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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 04:26 schreef letsgetthiscasesolved het volgende:
Ryan3:LOL..he should..roversnest
Yeah, sure everything that isn't Western to the bone is a 'roversnest' or are potential terrorists for all Geertje cares, I know, but what I'm interested in is whether Wilders made the same connection Ceasu made. That when push comes to shovel in this case, Balkenende IV'll fall and he'll be the next prime ministre of Holland.
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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 04:11 schreef letsgetthiscasesolved het volgende:

[..]

Observer777..will you ask this to the SM board? I'm not Adrian Monk but I read more about girls in this state at SM, that's why I am figuring if...
Hi,What would you like me to ask them? What stae of mind? You mean under a date rape drug? They won't be familiar with that other Dutch case.

We had a guy here in the states called Andrew Luster that was a heir to a large cosmetic company. He drugged and filmed many women using GHB and eventually he got caught and fled to Mexico. He will serve the rest of his days in Prison. He never killed anyone but had plenty of video tapes and evidence to put him away for life.

http://www.crimelibrary.c(...)andrew_luster/2.html
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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well, ther aresome reports:

Happy reading!

http://www.tni.org/detail_page.phtml?page=archives_tblick_aruba


Or: the banks of Aruba on- the under and upper-ground:...
Title:The Rothschilds of the Mafia on Aruba
Quote:
'"A magnificent washing-machine is sold here, its trademark is Aruba. The machine is an Aruban-Colombian product, its model called Cartel. The brand is well-known for its good performance in the United States and Europe. It is recommended by former ministers, members of Parliament, owners of casinos, supermarkets, cosmetics manufacturers and importers of cars and batteries. The washing-machine fits everybody who has become inexplicably rich from one day to another."

please read ifyou want to know about aruba and the timeplan..
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