Natalee Holloway (in the rebound) #4

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 23:55 schreef Atreidez het volgende:
It could have been meant that he confessed the story of being dropped off with her alone at the beach, instead of the HI story. I do however think that JvS knows more about this case then he was willing to pursue. Weren't all interrogations filmed and taped btw, I think I red this somewhere.

The confession was real and all over the American media on most every major news station,I could provide like 30 links for the 10th and 11th. And even more links the next day when they were retrieving her body. Natalee's family was already grieving and was told by the FBI she was not alive. Mass confusion,mis-information..etc..But Deputy Chief Dompig andThe Minister of Defense Office(David Croes)said there was a confession and they were leading them to the body. As you can see the next day that all changed. Many of the video/text links no longer work or were updated. But it was a AP story,CNN,FOX and other MSM and of course all over the blogs. Yes,I do believe interrogations were filmed,at least that is what we were told.

Witnessed by Diario Reporter


“They Buried Natalee in the neighborhood of Fishermen huts"

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1260

According to information that DIARIO is receiving, when Joran van der Sloot was detained he started crying during interrogation and he even told officers that they buried Natalee in the neighborhood of Fishermen hutsIt could be deduced that he doesn’t remember precisely where, but in the neighborhood of Fishermen huts, the elder Kalpoe brother buried Natalee. He told police that he would cooperate but that didn’t last long.

As for the Kalpoe Brothers, they also made fun of our authority because they simply told the cops: “No Body means No Case”.
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Natalee Holloway Is Dead

A reliable source from Aruba throughout my reporting has informed me that Natalee Holloway has now been confirmed as deceased, her Father is traveling to the location of the body. My thoughts and prayers go out to the family.

http://www.riehlworldview(...)rvative/2005/week23/
AP is correcting that they did not confess , just said something bad has happenned to her.

One of the teenage suspects confessed to killing Natalee Holloway and they are looking for the body now. One of the suspects is taking them to the body now.

From CNN

Karl Penhaul is reporting

STORY ON CNN

One of three young suspects arrested Thursday in the investigation into the disappearance of an Alabama teenager has confessed to her murder, a senior police official said late Friday.

The suspect has agreed to lead police to the body of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway, the police official said.

Police did not say which of the three teenagers confessed.

The three have been identified as brothers Satish Kalpoe, 18, and Depak Kalpoe, 21, and their friend, 17-year-old Joran Van Der Sloot, the son of a judge

AP: ORANJESTAD, Aruba - One of three young men who took an Alabama high school student to the beach during her class trip to Aruba confessed he killed her, police say. Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that the man was leading police late Friday to the scene of the crime.

WBRC

Local Birmingham TV is reporting that the family is going to the lighthouse area to look for the body. Mai Martinez reporting live says that they were at the lighthouse but now are heading to police station nord.

MSNBC

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - One of three young men who took a missing Alabama honors student to the beach confessed that “something bad” happened to the 18-year-old American, police say.

1 AM : Aruba Girl in the comments is reporting that they are going to Canashito, a rock quarry. During the massive search (the one where the civil servants got off), they spotted suspcious activity by a white van in the area. The cops went to check it out, but found nothing.

Yahoo

An unidentified friend of Natalee Holloway signs a ‘wall of hope’ erected for the missing Alabama teen in Mountain Brook, Ala., on Friday, June 10, 2005. Holloway disappeared in Aruba on May 30 during a senior graduation trip to the Dutch Caribbean island. (AP Photo/Jay Reeves)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/11/breaking/
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/10/missing.teen/index.html
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- One of three young men who took an Alabama teenager to the beach during a high school graduation trip to Aruba said "something bad happened" to her, police said Friday.

Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that the man was leading police late Friday to the scene. He refused to identify which young man had made the statement.

Fox news is reporting that one of the men arrested in the Natalee Holloway disappearance arrested yesterday has confessed to killing her and said he will lead police to her body.

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Confusion Reigns in Natalee Holloway Case
A barrage of conflicting reports from Aruban officials over the weekend concerning the fate of Alabama honor student Natalee Holloway sent news reporters scrambling to determine whether or not the teenager's death has been confirmed and her body located. Her family denies that the body has been found.

Saturday afternoon Fox News quoted Aruban Minister of Justice Edward Croes confirming Holloway's death and saying authorities know the location of her body. Reportedly, Natalee's father was with investigators looking for her body. However, a few hours later Fox News reported that same official denied making that statement.

Croes said that he was the victim of a "misinformation campaign."

It was Croes who called late Friday reports 'lies" that one of the three men who took Alabama teen Natalee Holloway to the beach the night she disappeared confessed that "something bad" happened to the teen and would lead authorities to her body.

The Associated Press reported late Friday night that Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig said that the man was leading police to the scene of the crime. The report did not say which of the three students confessed. CNN "confirmed" this report and continued to report the confession throughout the day.

Dompig said one of the three admitted that "something bad" had happened to the honor student who was in Aruba with her senior class. She disappeared May 30 when she failed to show up for a return flight home.

Conflicting Reports

Then Justice Minister Rudy Croes told reporters early Saturday morning that the rumor that one of the students had confessed was a lie, throwing the media on the island into confusion and prompting conflicting news alerts from the Caribbean. Croes emphatically denied that any confession had been made.

Three men who admitted they were with Holloway on the night she disappeared in Aruba were arrested Thursday in connection with the case. The three are Satish Kalpoe, 18, and his brother, Deepak, 21, and Joran Andreas Petrus Van Der Sloot, 17.

The three men appeared in court Saturday and a judge determined that there was enough evidence to continue to hold them in custody.

Meanwhile, another report said a sixth man had been arrested in connection with the case, but later reports said that arrest had nothing to do with the Holloway disappearance.

http://crime.about.com/b/(...)ee-holloway-case.htm

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/US_teen_missing_in_Aruba_feared_dead
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ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- A judge ruled Saturday to keep in custody three youths arrested earlier this week in connection with the disappearance of an Alabama teenager, a government official said.

The decision allows police and prosecutors eight days to continue their investigation into 18-year-old Natalee Holloway's disappearance, the official said.

The judge was flown in from the neighboring island of Curacao, a step not considered unusual in high-profile cases, said Aruba government spokesman Rueben Trappenberg. He explained that government officials want to ensure everything is done properly.

Defense attorneys have come to the defense of the young men, saying they have maintained their innocence.

"My client keeps on saying he is not guilty," said attorney David Kock, who represents 18-year-old Satish Kalpoe. He added that as far as he knew, none of the three have admitted guilt.

Kock said, "There's a girl missing, so everybody assumes that a crime has been committed."

Antonio Carlo represents Joran Van Der Sloot, the son of an Aruban judge. Carlo said the teen "has admitted to no crime whatsoever. My client has maintained that he is innocent."

Asked how Van Der Sloot was faring, Carlo said, "He is a 17-year-old boy. His detention is, of course, having an effect on him emotionally, but he is holding strong."

He said Van Der Sloot had been in contact with his mother and was assisting in the investigation. Both attorneys refused to comment on details of the investigation.

Van der Sloot, Kalpoe and Kalpoe's 21-year-old brother Depak were the last to be seen with Holloway. They were spotted leaving the popular Carlos'N Charlie's nightclub in the early hours of May 30.

A senior police official told CNN there had been "a breakthrough amounting to a confession, or some sort of confession" in relation to the case, but did not say who made it.

Prosecutors refused to confirm or deny reports of a confession.

Law enforcement sources close to the investigation said there has not been a confession, but that cracks are appearing in the three suspects' stories.

Spokeswoman Vivian Van Der Biezen said only that the investigation was at a "very crucial" point.

Aruba Prime Minister Nelson Oduber said no one had informed him of a confession, but noted that type of information is not something he would learn of during this stage of investigation.

He said early Saturday that there was no search for a body or remains.

"Investigators will continue early in the morning doing their job," Oduber said.

Late Friday, a senior police official told CNN that one of the three youths police took into custody Thursday had confessed to killing Holloway.

The Mountain Brook, Alabama, resident was in Aruba with more than 100 classmates and seven chaperones celebrating high school graduation.

[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door observer777 op 09-02-2008 01:06:33 ]

Ex-commissioner Stanley Zaandam in his new book KPA-Quo Vadis 2,3
To exculpate the son of Paul vd Sloot, the commissioner and fiscal falsely arrested two ex security guards

Bon Dia Aruba
9/19/2005

ORANJESTAD – The police corps committed a blunder in the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. According to ex-commissioner Stanley Zaandam, who dedicates attention to the case here and also in his upcoming publication.

According to Zaandam, the nominations - of among others Commissioners Bernardina, Dompig, Hassel and Richardson, along with 34 high-rank 1st class inspectors - which are against the law and hierarchy of the KPA [police corps], have serious consequences for the quality and integrity of work in KPA.

Accoding to Zaandam, none of the high-ranked commissioners has the qualifications nor experience to conduct a judicial investigation.

Police at the top of political list

According to Zaandam, Commissioner Dompig is under the instruction of Minister Rudy Croes, of MEP.
He also states that 20 other policemen were ranked high on a political list. Five others (…) among them Commissioner Hassell, according to Zaandam.

He also claims this is how Commissioner vd Straten was appointed to this case. However, according to Zaandam, this should not be work for a commissioner.

BLUNDER

Zaandam continues talking about the blunder under which the 3 youngsters were questioned, which should have been a simple case, but one that resulted in KPA’s biggest blunder, due to the deceiptfulness of JvdS, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, they remained free another 12 days.

FALSE ARREST

Zaandam keeps on saying in his book, two days after 5/29, the body of Natalee H. may have already been found and Cvp [police commissioner] looked the other way to do a favour for Paul vd Sloot (ex of chief staff of Cabinet PG [prosecutor general] J. Zwinkels). To exculpate the son of Paul, the CvP and fiscal chief prosecutor Karen Jansen made the false arrest of two ex-security guards, Jones and John , called this a ‘tactical maneuver’ , and denied them their freedom for another 10 days.

This, continues Zaandam in his book, is the issue here. However, he has much more to tell regarding the case of Natalee Holloway.

[translated by Getagrip]

// posted by Getagrip @ 9/19/2005 12:18:00 PM

http://getagripmonkey.blo(...)pmonkey_archive.html

Paulus van der Sloot
Pauw & Witteman Show
January 11, 2008

Paulus: Well look uhhhh… Mister De Vries can’t hear that good… If he would have listened carefully he would have heard that Joran said that he didn’t have any confidence in the OM (public pros.)! That’s what Joran has said. Joran didn’t talk about the judicial authorities. What you see now.., what has happened is that luckely we have judicial authorities… And we sit here again! So in the end it’s because of the judicial authorities that all has ended well.
Translation: EURobert - SM FP Poster/Monkey
http://scaredmonkeys.net/(...);topicseen#msg328035


Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
October 4, 2005

GRACE: … Jossy, regarding the connection, what I perceived to be a close connection between the judge, Paulus Van Der Sloot and the retired chief of police who initially handled Natalee`s case, Van Der Stratten, were they friends?

MANSUR: Of course, they were friends. It stands to reason they were friends because Paul Van Der Sloot had many friends within the police department; he had many friends within the Department of Justice. And he had many friends with -- and he was friendly with all the judges in Aruba. He worked out of the same office as they did and did the same work.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html


Paulus van der Sloot
NOVA - TWAN HUYS
June 28, 2005

VAN DER SLOOT: That gives a feeling of absurdity. It is indeed almost unimaginable that by someone you actually know very well, where you worked together with for a long time, that that one comes to tell you that you are suspected of complicity to murder.

HUYS: Who was that in your case?

VAN DER SLOOT: That was, in this case, that was the leader of the team of police commissioners.

HUYS: Jan van der Straaten.

VAN DER SLOOT: That was Jan van der Straaten, yes.

HUYS: And you know each other very well?

VAN DER SLOOT: Yes


Paulus van der Sloot
NOVA
June 28, 2005

JUDICIARY

Reporter (Twan Huys): Which function do you have here at the island? Because many stories go around about that. What is your function?

Paulus van der Sloot: I am a replacing member of the joint court of justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba [1] and I am appointed for a period of three years, from January the first, 2003, until January the first, 2006.

Reporter (Twan Huys): So, you are replacement judge?

Paulus van der Sloot: Yes.


PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE

Reporter (Twan Huys): Do you know the people very well, for example, the people here from the public prosecutors' office that ordered your detention?

Paulus van der Sloot: Yes, for sure, because, before that, I have worked for eight years as chief of the cabinet of the prosecutor general [2].

Reporter (Twan Huys): So, you also know the current prosecutor general?

Paulus van der Sloot: Yes.

Reporter (Twan Huys): Mrs. Croes.

Paulus van der Sloot: Yes.


ARUBAN LAW ENFORCEMENT

Reporter (Twan Huys): Yes, and what does that mean when your colleagues stop by to arrest you?

Paulus van der Sloot: That gives a feeling of absurdity. It is indeed almost unimaginable that by someone you actually know very well, where you worked together with for a long time, that that one comes to tell you that you are suspected of complicity to murder.

Reporter (Twan Huys): Who was that in your case?

Paulus van der Sloot: That was, in this case, that was the leader of the team of police commissioners.

Reporter (Twan Huys): Jan van der Straaten.

Paulus van der Sloot: That was Jan van der Straaten, yes.

Reporter (Twan Huys): And you know each other very well?

Paulus van der Sloot: Yes.

Translation Credit: Dugo - Riehl Worldview

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Op zaterdag 9 februari 2008 02:00 schreef -MyLove- het volgende:

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Geef maar kudos aan een paar gekken met te veel tijd en een eigen radiostation. De twin tower maniakken hebben dat ook ... een obsessie is nooit goed.

Thankyou Caesu! If we had given up then it would of all been forgotten,Natalee would never be found and there would be no justice. We are up against a Govt spending millions in a misinformation/slander campaign against this victim and her family. If we don't try and help who will?

Your exacly right NS! There was one of the parents and friend of the family who was in Aruba the first few days and a teacher told them that Joran hit Natalee in the head with a baseball bat..No idea if true or not..But Interesting..We also learned those first few days Joran was sleeping at his school and not his home. As I posted there is several references from PJK2 about her hitting her head,It very well could be what Joran means if they find the girl,they will see the shit. We know Deepak says to him if they find the girl you will get 15 years! Why 15 years? In Satish's PV he does not go to school and sleeps until 1pm and the first thing he asked his brother Deepak is hows the girl? I tend to believe Satish went home and Deepak was there and saw everything. PVDS was on the computer researching drugs and alcohol that first night also. Not suprising the computer had a virus and most everything was erased and damaged. We did see that someone logged in as Val at 3am on x-plane,so he could have been the alibi on the computer or perhaps someone else. All of this on a school night on a sunday?

Yes,The brain injury could cause convulsions. Add in the reports of blood in the car and the missing shoes and that very well may be a piece of the puzzle. If she died of a natural death or OD why did they lie,cover up and hide the body forever. Why didn't they call a ambulance?

Blood in Deepak's car was announced by the Minsiter of Justice Rudy Croes,Prime Minsiter Oduber,FBI and ALE..We know later they said it turned out to be chocolate. How could so many people mistake blood for chocolate,how could the neat freak Deepak allow chocolate all over his car? The FBI says there was blood in the trunk of the vehicle as well,we were told later that it turned out to be rust. A PI for the family found out Deepak was looking into long term storage for this vehicle and there is eye witnesses that saw Deepak and two others franticly washing and cleaning the car at 3AM in a very strange part of the house shortly after NH vanished.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2016.0

We know they cut squares out of one of those cars on the seat and headliner. We also saw the Aruban Newspaper article that blood was found in one of the sloot vehicles. Not sure if the article was a typo or not.
The "Diario," a local daily newspaper, is reporting that a human blood sample found in a car at the residence of one of the teens in custody — the 17-year-old son of a high-ranking island judicuary official — is now being sent to the U.S. and will be tested for a possible match to Natalee, whose mother gave a blood sample to investigators.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html

Back to Beth Twitty, Natalee`s mom. I want to talk to you about the prime minister`s statement, the Aruban prime minister, who went public and stated there was blood found in the car. Remember?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Yes, absolutely.

GRACE: What happened?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Absolutely. That`s what I would love to know. On June 11, he states on international media in front of me -- I had no idea what he was about to disclose -- that there was blood in the Kalpoes` vehicle, there was DNA, there was blood. Where is that? Even (INAUDIBLE) went so far to cut interior portions from the car -- the back seat, the ceiling. You know, what happened with that?

Somebody -- you know, that`s the reason there`s no evidence. Had they gone to the -- and impounded that car that day -- the FBI told us there was blood all in the car. The prosecutor said the FBI said there was blood in the car. But for some reason or another, when they sent it off, they say now it`s all cleaning fluid. Well, who knows. I know they had nine days to clean the car.

Natalee Holloway: ... BLOOD WAS FOUND IN THE TRUNK OF THE CAR. ... of the suspect's cars to see if it was Holloway's blood. ...ABC NEWS

Authorities were overheard on a police frequency Sunday evening issuing a bulletin to stop a rented white Toyota in connection with the disappearance of the 5-foot-4-inch blonde. Dompig declined to confirm it.

Art Wood, a retired Secret Service agent helping the Holloway family investigate the case, said: "That blood was sent to Holland and it came back as being cleaning fluid and chocolate. That's what the test results show. But an Aruban police officer who worked on the investigation told me there was definitely blood in that car. I think the wrong sample was deliberately sent to Holland.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159711,00.html
Aruban officials did ask the FBI, however, to analyze a DNA sample from the backseat of one of the suspect's cars to see if it was Holloway's blood. The blood was flown to the FBI crime lab in Quantico, Va., but tests came back negative for blood.

An FBI spokeswoman also confirmed that Aruban officials have not requested more evidence processing at the Quantico lab. However, FBI agents are being included in police briefings, and one agent is being allowed to observe interviews with the suspects through a live video feed or through glass.
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Search for blood in Deepak Kalpoe's carJune 9, 2005

3 page report
Divisie Centrale Recherche, Aruba
Laboratory Report (blood sample)


June 9, 2005
Blood Samples
COMPARISON FBI – Quantico

The "Diario," a local daily newspaper, is reporting that a human blood sample found in a car at the residence of one of the teens in custody — the 17-year-old son of a high-ranking island judicuary official — is now being sent to the U.S. and will be tested for a possible match to Natalee, whose mother gave a blood sample to investigators.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html


The next day, June 10, 2005, DNA samples were taken from Beth Twitty and Dave Holloway in Aruba. June 10, 2005 brought us another important occurrence in this case – a confession was made by one of the suspects arrested the previous day.


Chief of Police, Gerold Dompig
CBS NEWS
June 10, 2005
http://www.cbsnews.com/st(...)nal/main700829.shtml


Holloway's family rushed late Friday to an old stone lighthouse beside Arisha beach after Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that one of three young men in custody admitted that "something bad happened" to Holloway and was leading police to the scene of the alleged crime.


Paul Reynolds - Natalee Holloway's Uncle
'Scarborough Country'
July 12, 2005
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8551822

PAUL REYNOLDS, UNCLE OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: I know that my sister had a meeting with the FBI June 10, Friday. And from that meeting, she became convinced that Natalee was no longer alive. She called her mother and told her that. And our family was—was—began the grieving process. However, if Aruban spokespeople were to be believed, there was not blood, but rather cleaning fluid found inside Deepak’s car – and the confession was merely a “misinformation campaign.”


FOX NEWS
June 11, 2005
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html

David Cruz, a spokesman for the Aruban Minister of Justice (search) told FOX News Natalee Holloway (search), who was on vacation with friends with a graduation trip when she disappeared, was confirmed dead and that authorities knew the location of her body. However, Cruz later retracted the statement, saying he was a victim of a "misinformation campaign."

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Op zaterdag 9 februari 2008 02:58 schreef THEFXR het volgende:
i think, val= valentine, the younger brother of joran, but i cannot imagine he is awake in the middle of the night, someone just used his account.

Yes,could be..We don't even know for sure that he wasn't in holland with the mom and younger brother. There were rumors that Freddy stayed the night at the sloot house also. I do not know if that is true or not. Somewhere in all of this is Guido. He is also involved. His arrest for suspicion of heavy battery and murder in 2006 is very interesting.MO