[PS5#1] Waar de eerste geruchten aankomen

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Op vrijdag 9 maart 2018 01:55 schreef Jimbo het volgende:

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ach jij bent de eerste 30 jaar ook compleet nutteloos geweest..alles heeft zo zn charme

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Quick Summary of Playstation 5 article:

-Uses AMD's Navi as its base architecture, not specifically using Navi.
-CPU is Zen
-Large amount of devkits have apparently gone out.
-Author suggests 2018 release of PS5 is not out of the question based on the amount of devkits released
-VR "goodies" baked in at the Silicon level (Sony not giving up on PSVR any time soon is what I think).

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PS5 And Next Xbox Are "Minimum Of Two Years" Away, Ubisoft Predicts

"As Sony launched PlayStation 4 Pro last year and Microsoft Xbox One X this year, we think we still have a minimum of two years in front of us before something new is coming," Guillemot stated. "But that's our perception, we don't have any confidential information on that front."

_{Bron een artikel van 8-11-2017: https://www.gamespot.com/(...)way-ub/1100-6454781/}

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Op donderdag 5 april 2018 10:12 schreef Dopekoe het volgende:
Wat zou een launch titel kunnen zijn ?

Knack 3

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Op donderdag 5 april 2018 10:35 schreef StateOfMind het volgende:

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Waren Days Gone en Death Stranding niet een jaar uitgesteld?
Zou een verklaring kunnen zijn voor dat uitstel.

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Op donderdag 5 april 2018 10:12 schreef Dopekoe het volgende:
Wat zou een launch titel kunnen zijn ?

Knack 3

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CPU : AMD “Zen”, 8 cores
o Single-chip custom processor

• GPU : 14.20 TFLOPS, AMD “Navi” based graphics engine
o AMD new generation graphics system

• Memory : 32 GB GDDR6 technology
o 1T SSD storage

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Op maandag 9 april 2018 07:43 schreef DKUp het volgende:
Er gaat een document rond over de mogelijke specs van de PS5 devkit

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Klinkt te mooi om waar te zijn eigenlijk
Ik zet in op fake-news

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Op maandag 9 april 2018 08:02 schreef StateOfMind het volgende:

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Ik ben niet zo thuis in de hardware wereld, maar die processor en graphische kaart, waar staan die in het spectrum?

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The PlayStation 5 release is very unlikely to happen later this year, according to Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter.

Earlier today, we reported on the very first PlayStation 5 rumors, which implied that Sony’s next-gen console could launch as soon as this year. We already said that this release frame is “extremely unlikely” due to various reasons, and this view appears to be supported by Pachter.

We asked the well-known technology analyst about the possibility of the PS5 releasing this year, and he replied that a release later this year has ”very low probability”. According to Pachter, Sony’s PS4 successor will most likely release in 2020, although a release in 2019 shouldn’t be totally ruled out. “25% [probability] next year and 75% in 2020”, he told us.

Bron: https://wccftech.com/playstation-5-release-2018-unlikely/

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Op maandag 9 april 2018 16:40 schreef Goudenvis het volgende:
2018 zou natuurlijk raar zijn met alle grote releases dit najaar. Denk dat we hem in t najaar van 2019 gaan zien met tlou2, days gone en death stranding.

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Op maandag 9 april 2018 16:27 schreef DKUp het volgende:
Analist Michael Pachter verwacht de PS5 niet in 2018

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Op maandag 9 april 2018 21:11 schreef Notorious_Roy het volgende:

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2018 CONFIRMED

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Sources: The PlayStation 5 Is Still A Ways Off

A recent online rumor got people buzzing about a possible 2018 release of PlayStation 5, but that’s probably not going to happen. In fact, from what we’ve heard, the next PlayStation is a ways away—it may not arrive until 2020.

It’s been nearly five years since the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One launched, which has triggered bouts of nervousness and excitement among video game fans who want to know when they’ll have to start hoarding pennies for a new generation of consoles. The PS4 launched seven years after the PS3, the Xbox One eight years after the Xbox 360. It’s not unreasonable to be thinking about the next generation. We don’t have a concrete answer just yet, but we have been asking around, and what we’ve heard is a whole lot of uncertainty.

Over the past month, I’ve spoken to dozens of game developers, across a variety of disciplines and studios, about the next generation of consoles. Of those, two people said they were directly familiar with plans for Sony’s new console. Those two people both told me that the next PlayStation is unlikely to release in 2019, let alone 2018, although they were careful to be clear that these plans are always shifting. “On a multi-year project, a lot can happen to shift schedules both forward and backward,” one person said. “At some point, Sony’s probably looked at every possible date. It’s all about what they think is the best sweet spot in terms of hardware.” A surprise move by Microsoft or another competitor, for example, could trigger a change in plans.

Most of the developers I spoke to, via phone and email and text, said they had not heard anything about plans for a new PlayStation. Even employees at Sony’s first-party studios said they have not yet been briefed on the existence of a PlayStation 5. People across all the disciplines (design, art, engineering, etc.) at major studios working on games scheduled for 2019 and beyond have told me that if there is information about the PS5 at their companies, they haven’t heard about it. (Those people said they haven’t heard about a new Xbox, either.)

In summary: There is information about the PlayStation 5 floating around at both first- and third-party companies, but it’s far more limited than it would be if the console’s release was imminent.

Last week, an article from a website called Semiaccurate alleged that a large number of PlayStation 5 development kits had gone out to game makers. The article also speculated that the console could be out by the end of 2018. This article is behind a paywall—“Pricing is $1,000 for a year’s worth of access”—but ResetEra rounded up some of the details. When I showed those details to one person familiar with Sony’s plans, they laughed. For the PlayStation 5 to be out this fall, they said, it would already be in manufacturing. (And if that was the case, it’d come as a big surprise to a lot of people who are making games for this fall and beyond.)

PlayStation 5 development kits are another question. A development kit is a proprietary piece of hardware that allows game-makers to build and optimize games for a specific console. It usually comes with proprietary software, too, such as a console’s operating system and other “debug” features that allow developers more access to the hardware than they’d have with a retail device. It’s possible to replicate a console’s development environment by using software on a computer, and these days, game engines like Unity and Unreal can facilitate that process, but in order to release games on the PlayStation, developers will ultimately need the tools and licenses provided by devkits. These development kits are especially useful for debugging and preparing for certification, the process that Sony uses to test and approve of new games.

But the term can be misleading. To say that “PS5 devkits” are out in the wild could mean several different things. “Super early devkits are often PCs with the CPU and GPU,” said a source familiar with Sony’s console development, referring to the processor and graphics card of the future machine. Early “development kits” might not resemble a PlayStation at all.

An early devkit “is a literal desktop tower—it doesn’t look like anything,” the source said. “First devkits are almost always that. They might have a custom motherboard or might literally be a PC. You want to get one or two of those out to the lead graphics programmer [of a studio] so they can see what’s possible, start planning what they can do in their game based on that. That’s early devkit stuff.”

As a result, before a new console is released, studios will typically work with multiple versions of development kits. One person who worked in a high role at a major game developer said that their company had received proper PS4 devkits, then code-named Orbis, about a year before the console launched in November 2013. Another person who worked for a major game studio said they were working with PCs dressed up as development kits around 18-24 months before the PS4 came out. The PlayStation 4, unlike its predecessor, was built with PC architecture, allowing more flexibility there.

If these early PS5 devkits are out at game studios now, they are likely extremely well-hidden. With earlier PlayStations, sources said, Sony had worked hard to keep development kits secret, even sometimes asking game studios to lock them in rooms where access was restricted to a select group of people.

Making things more complicated is the existence of Xbox One X and PlayStation 4 Pro, upgraded versions of each respective console that have their own dedicated development kits. These “mid-generation” hardware refreshes suggest that Microsoft and Sony have taken a different approach to the current cycle of consoles, and it’s fair to wonder how they might influence future consoles. Those mid-gen upgraded consoles are still new. The Pro came out in November 2016, while Xbox One X released in November 2017.

What we’re hearing from developers is that most people expect Sony’s next console to be a PlayStation 5, a machine that runs games that won’t run on PS4, but that they don’t expect it for a while. At the Game Developers Conference in San Francisco last month, secondhand rumors I heard also suggested a 2020 release. Word from a few people was that in meetings between Sony and developers, representatives for the publisher had dropped vague hints about that 2020 timeframe. But it’s worth reiterating: When it comes to hardware, anything can change.

Sony did not respond to a request for comment.

_{Bron: https://kotaku.com/source(...)-ways-off-1825152206}

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:42 schreef DKUp het volgende:

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 22:02 schreef Notorious_Roy het volgende:

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Naja, 2019 kan dus prima. Vroeger was het jaar X-2 geruchten, X-1 onthulling, X release.

De laatste tijd steeds vaker geruchten in X-1 en dan onthulling en release in hetzelfde jaar.

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Op woensdag 11 april 2018 15:30 schreef DKUp het volgende:
PS5 Leak Looks Totally Fake, But You Be the Judge
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Bron: https://www.psu.com/news/(...)ut-you-be-the-judge/

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Op donderdag 12 april 2018 11:40 schreef Bananenpap het volgende:
Volgens de reviews is God of War een extreem goede game.

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Op donderdag 12 april 2018 11:50 schreef Bananenpap het volgende:
Oh lol.

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PS5: Architecture, price, BC, launch window, etc.

-Sony's technical roadmap wasn't completely ready when they talked to the devs about the PS5 but the technical basis is clear: 4K/60fps
-Sony told devs to go crazy with visual fidelity and AI, as the console will be powerful enough to handle it
-Games are actively being developed for the PS5 launch
-Unreal Engine is being ported/optimized for the PS5
-Don't expect a 'stratospheric leap' - PS5 is the continuation of what's been done before: more visual comfort but not a game-changing revolution - However, this will have advantages as to backwards compatibility or price
-Launch window: Games currently being developed for the PS5 have been given an 18-month goal (for development time), which means late 2019-early 2020
-Final dev kits arent being shared with developers yet, at least not third-party devs
-They're working on powerful PCs with specs roughly equivalent to the PS5
-Projects like (the PS5) can evolve quickly in one way or another (they can be accelerated or delayed) depending on various factors - competition, market, price evolution, etc, but don't expect a 2018 launch/announcement anymore
-2020 release expected but it isn't set in stone - could be 2019. Chičze expects Christmas 2019/1st half of 2020
-Consoles usually come out around the holiday period but he reminds us the Switch and the PS2 came out in March
-Reminds us Sony's been working on patents related to backwards compatibility, recently
-Devs told Chičze the PS5 will have BC, they're 100% confident about that
-PS5 architecture won't be radically different from PS4 - backwards compatibility will be much easier to implement as a result, no longer on a game-by-game basis
-VR is at the core of the PS5/Sony doesn't want to abandon VR. New controllers (with integrated analog sticks). New PS VR in the works to take advantage of the PS5's capabilities
-Anything is possible regarding an announcement date. Depends on the competition. Chičze's personal opinion: Not at this E3 (2018 is the year when they want to push PS4 Pro and PS VR) 2018 will be the last big holiday season for PS4. 2019 is when we'll start being teased about what's next.
-Sony is adopting a three-year cycle: 2013 -> PS4, 2016 -> PS4 Pro, 2019 -> PS5 - The PS5 might not come out in 2019 per se, but Chičze expects Sony to start communicating/teasing about it in 2019.
-Chičze expects Sony to keep the ¤399 price (same as PS4 then PS4 Pro). Consumers are used to that price, would be logical
-Chičze expects high-profile titles (e.g. Death Stranding, The Last of Us Part 2) to have a release cycle similar to what Nintendo did with Wii U/Switch: normal release (on PS4/PS4 Pro) then 'optimized' release on PS5. Thinks they're late-generation titles so they can't not have a PS4/PS4 Pro release (they were advertised as such)

Gevonden op Resetera:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/julien-chičze-ex-gameblog-s-info-on-the-ps5-architecture-price-bc-launch-window-etc.35891/

Officiële bron in het Frans:

PS5, MES INFOS : puissance, fenÃĒtre de lancement, VR sur PlayStation 5

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Op donderdag 26 april 2018 19:40 schreef Jimbo het volgende:
huehue DKup kan hier niet posten

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Op zaterdag 28 april 2018 11:41 schreef Elvi het volgende:
Ik heb nog niet eens een PS4

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PS5 Progress May Be Boosted With Top News From Chip Manufacturer

Seems like full production of the PS5 might not be too far away. The Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company has started high volume production of chips using the 7nm process technology.

These chips adopt the 7nm (CLN7FF) process technology which is likely going to power the PS5. The fact that these chips are now being created in ‘high volume’ suggests that they’ve got big buyer ready to snap them up!

PS5 Development Gets a Boost
There’s further clues that these are the chips being used for PS5. In a financial conference call, President of TMCS C. C. Wei mentions “gaming”:

“More than 50 products tape-outs has been planned by end of this year from applications across mobile, server CPU, network processor, gaming, GPU, PGA, cryptocurrency, automotive and AI. Our 7nm is already in volume production.”

It’s likely that Sony will use the next iteration of the AMD Accelerated Processing Unit (APU) that is currently in the PS4. This may well be AMD’s next generation of graphics chips called Navi, and it’s rumoured that the PS4 CPU will be powered by AMD’s Zen 2.

Both AMD’s next-gen CPU and GPU need these 7nm chips. Once they land, it’s all systems go for PS5. And with chip production now ramping up to high volume, it seems that the job of putting the parts of the PS5 together ready for release is not too far away.

The PS5 specs were allegedly leaked earlier this month, and it’s rumored that development kits are now in the hands of the PS4 game makers.Other rumors suggest that PS5 may be backwards compatible with PS4 games, and a release date will be no sooner than 2020.

_{Bron: https://www.psu.com/news/(...)m-chip-manufacturer/}

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Op maandag 30 april 2018 14:14 schreef FlippingCoin het volgende:
700 euro vind ik wat te gek worden

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Op maandag 30 april 2018 14:12 schreef RickoKun het volgende:


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Backwards compability erin? Denken jullie dat echt? Als ik al zie hoeveel faalhazen in het ps4 topic het ene na de andere remaster kopen; dan gaan ze echt niet zomaar “gratis” die backwards compability erin stoppen. Verdienen ze veel te veel mee.

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Op maandag 30 april 2018 15:39 schreef Jimbo het volgende:

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Ahjoh het is maar geld.. ( )

Kostte de ps2/3 in het begin ook niet 1000eur + ofzo ?

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Op maandag 30 april 2018 15:06 schreef poezenvanger_van_hamelen het volgende:

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Sony gaat echt niet zo ver achter blijven tov Microsoft op dat gebied. Kan ze op lang termijn veel meer geld kosten dan die paar remasters.

De ps5 gaat zeker BC worden.

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Op maandag 30 april 2018 14:45 schreef DKUp het volgende:

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Na het ¤/$599,- drama
Gewoon ¤399-499,- eind 2019 of ergens in 2020.

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Op maandag 30 april 2018 15:52 schreef FlippingCoin het volgende:

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Wat was dat drama dan?

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Op maandag 30 april 2018 15:52 schreef DKUp het volgende:

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PS3 launch

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PlayStation 5 pas in 2021 in de schappen

PlayStation fans moeten nog een paar jaar wachten op de PlayStation 5: Sony meldt dat ze nog minimaal drie jaar nodig hebben voordat de opvolger van de PlayStation 4 in de schappen ligt. Dat vertelt Sony-topman Tsuyoshi Kodera aan The Wall Street Journal.

De nieuwe PlayStation 5 zal op zijn vroegst in 2021 uitgebracht worden. Kodera: ,,We gaan ons de komende drie jaar voorbereiden op de volgende stap."

Volgens hem gaat Sony de komende jaren 'kruipen, zodat het bedrijf in de toekomst hoog kan gaan springen'.

Kwartaalcijfers
Sony presenteerde eind april kwartaalcijfers, waaruit bleek dat er een miljoen PlayStation 4-consoles minder werden verkocht dan in hetzelfde kwartaal een jaar geleden. Het aantal verkochte spelcomputers was gedaald naar 19 miljoen en het techbedrijf verwacht dat deze trend doorzet. In totaal zijn er meer dan 76 miljoen PlayStation 4-consoles verkocht.

De PlayStation 4 werd in 2013 voor het eerst uitgebracht, wat betekent dat console minimaal acht jaar in de schappen zal liggen. Er waren geruchten dat de PlayStation 5 er al binnen aan jaar aan zou komen. Dit bericht werd echter al snel weerlegd door Sony.

Bron: https://www.ad.nl/digitaa(...)e-schappen~a44521b8/

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Op donderdag 8 maart 2018 18:51 schreef Notorious_Roy het volgende:
Meh, ik stap later wel in. De PS4 was de eerste drie jaar ook totaal nutteloos.

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Op maandag 30 april 2018 14:12 schreef RickoKun het volgende:

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Backwards compability erin? Denken jullie dat echt? Als ik al zie hoeveel faalhazen in het ps4 topic het ene na de andere remaster kopen; dan gaan ze echt niet zomaar “gratis” die backwards compability erin stoppen. Verdienen ze veel te veel mee.

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Op woensdag 13 juni 2018 15:24 schreef Ang3l het volgende:

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Dit. Die luie remasters leveren extra geld op. Waarom zouden ze in godsnaam backward compatible er in stoppen? Dat hadden de 3 en de 4 ook niet, zal de 5 ook niet krijgen.

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Op woensdag 13 juni 2018 15:24 schreef Ang3l het volgende:

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Dit. Die luie remasters leveren extra geld op. Waarom zouden ze in godsnaam backward compatible er in stoppen? Dat hadden de 3 en de 4 ook niet, zal de 5 ook niet krijgen.

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Op maandag 30 april 2018 14:45 schreef DKUp het volgende:

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Na het ¤/$599,- drama
Gewoon ¤399-499,- eind 2019 of ergens in 2020.

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Op woensdag 27 juni 2018 19:14 schreef RickoKun het volgende:

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Dan ook niet huilen dat niets het doet op 60 fps

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Op woensdag 27 juni 2018 19:23 schreef DKUp het volgende:

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Nooit over 60fps gejankt

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Op woensdag 27 juni 2018 19:23 schreef DKUp het volgende:

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Nooit over 60fps gejankt

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Op woensdag 27 juni 2018 19:34 schreef MMaRsu het volgende:

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Als cod ineens 30fps zou zijn wel

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Op maandag 27 augustus 2018 19:57 schreef DKUp het volgende:

Cyberpunk 2077 Gameplay Reveal — 48-minute walkthrough

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Op maandag 27 augustus 2018 19:59 schreef Noppie2000 het volgende:

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Die komt natuurlijk gewoon naar PS4 ook, maar een PS5 crossgen port moet haast wel

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Op maandag 27 augustus 2018 20:08 schreef DKUp het volgende:

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Ik kies dan wel voor de PS5-versie.

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Op maandag 27 augustus 2018 20:18 schreef RickoKun het volgende:
Ik denk dat ik de volgende gen weer ga overstappen naar PC. Al vind ik wel dat er deze gen sublieme exclusives op de PS4 waren!

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Op maandag 27 augustus 2018 20:25 schreef Notorious_Roy het volgende:

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En dan Henk? Niemand wordt gelukkig van gamen op een pc.

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Op maandag 27 augustus 2018 23:41 schreef Jimbo het volgende:

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Eigenlijk niet echt te vergelijk een pc en een console. Bij de een chill je op de bank met je bro's en een biertje. Bij de ander zit je in een stoel met een schwanz in de hand

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Op dinsdag 28 augustus 2018 00:12 schreef Jimbo het volgende:

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zou wel ziek zijn, of ze melden hem aan op de PSX, zou opzich wel te 'verwachten' zijn.. of op de E3, maar sony is steeds minder van de E3.. en zou ook wel bizar zijn als ze dan nog een 2019 launch doen.. aanmelden in juli en de release in nov :/