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  zondag 15 juni 2008 @ 12:40:27 #101
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Goedemiddag Suko! (En de rest natuurlijk!)

Ik las het, wanneer is er nu precies voor het laatst een up-date gegeven over het onderzoek naar Maddy? Het is net alsof alle partijen zich aan het ingraven zijn voor het slotoffensief.....
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Madeleine McCann And Lenore Skenazy’s Son
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann

NY Sun columnist Lenore Skenazy allows her nine-year-old to walk about New York on his own. In that paper, she tells us:

I trusted him to figure out that he should take the Lexington Avenue subway down, and the 34th Street crosstown bus home. If he couldn’t do that, I trusted him to ask a stranger. And then I even trusted that stranger not to think, “Gee, I was about to catch my train home, but now I think I’ll abduct this adorable child instead.” Long story short: My son got home, ecstatic with independence.

SUNDAY MAIL: “So Would You Let Your Nine-Year-Old Travel Home Solo In City Rush Hour?”

To Glasgow, where the paper is investigating is this is wrong or not so wrong?

SCOTS psychologist Ros Taylor insists Lenore did nothing wrong - and “we should all be preparing our kids to become independent adults”. You can trust the word of a sports psychologist.

“We all think about Madeleine McCann and hear of kids being locked in a basement for years. But they’re actually at greater risk of being in a car accident - yet we insist on driving them everywhere.”

McCann and Fritzl. It’s Tabloid Bingo.

And cars are dangerous. Cars are paedos on wheels with leatherette interiors. And let’s not get started on paedos in cars…
Rondje Anorak, tja same old same old......

http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/184894.html
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Hoi Kahaarin, ik denk dat de PJ bezig is de aanklacht voor te bereiden, dit heeft ook alles te maken met het feit wanneer de files worden vrijgegeven, ik dacht halverwege volgende maand of begin augustus, not sure. Weet je veel, misschien worden een aantal Tapas-luitjes ook formeel verdachten zoals mogelijk is gebleken tijdens de recente verhoren in de UK. Kan zijn dat ze eerdere statements hebben ingetrokken en/of hebben geweigerd een aantal vragen te beantwoorden nu ze omgeven waren met advocaten. Beachy legde het al uit, het heeft tijd nodig. Ik weet niet hoe de Portugese wetten zijn maar vormfouten zoals we die in Nederland kennen moeten natuurlijk vermeden worden, stel je voor dat ze om die reden worden vrijgesteld van rechtsvervolging... Ook de Portugese pers is verrekte stil, Jonana Morais is al sinds 4 juni heel zwijgzaam, alleen meldt 24 Horas wat over dat Amber Alert systeem en verder:
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"Even because they still have hope of finding their daughter alive. "The Spanish agency M3 continues to work with other European investigation agencies searching for clues that may lead to Madeleine McCann", says Clarence Mitchell. And the findmadeleine.com fund is not short of money. "The fund is healthy with the money paid by the British papers as compensation. It is that money that makes it possible for us to pay the lawyers and the search teams" explains Clarence."

HOLIDAYS:
The McCann couple will go on holiday after the visit to Strasbourg. "The days and location will not
be disclosed " says the spokesman.

DOOR(?):
The McCanns believe that only in mid-August will the secrecy of justie be lifted and they will
stop being arguidos.
Bron Met andere woorden, de McCanns gaan na het bezoek in Strassbourg op vakantie (lekker belangrijk), is er nog geld genoeg om Metodo 3 en de advocaten te betalen, halverwege agustus worden de files vrijgegeven en zijn dan vervolgens geen formeel verdachten meer, geloven ze....

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In aanvulling op het bovenstaande bericht wat betreft dit stukje: "The fund is healthy with the money paid by the British papers as compensation. It is that money that makes it possible for us to pay the lawyers and the search teams" explains Clarence." Daar heb ik ff in de gauwigheid overheen gelezen, 'k ben meer gefocust op een eventuele aanklacht, gelukkig leest Nigel ook de 'verborgen' info uit het 24 Horas-artikel, hij schrijft:
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Clarence Mitchell clearly states that Madeleine's Fund is being used to pay lawyers. This is in direct contradiction to the statement released by the board of Madeleine's Fund following the McCanns arguido status:

Statement by the Board of

Madeleine’s Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited


12 September 2007

The Fund would like to thank everyone for their kindness, support and generosity.
Madeleine's Fund was set up to:

1. Find Madeleine;

2. Support the Family; and

3. Bring the abductor or abductors to justice

and subject to that to help other missing children

With the sudden dramatic and unexpected turn of events at the weekend the directors had to consider whether legal defence costs could be paid for by the Fund.

The Board has taken advice from Bates Wells & Braithwaite London LLP and Christopher McCall QC. The Board has been advised that payment of Gerry and Kate's legal defence costs would be legally permissible subject to conditions about repayment in the event of a guilty conviction.

The directors of the Fund discussed this today. The two family directors, Brian Kennedy and John McCann withdrew from the meeting when the decision was made. Esther McVey chaired the meeting. The Fund directors realise that there is not only a legal answer and recognise the spirit which underlies the generous donations to Madeleine's Fund, which it is the directors' responsibility to steer.

For this reason the Fund directors have decided not to pay for Gerry and Kate's legal defence costs. We stress that Gerry and Kate have not asked for these costs to be paid. However, people have already called in offering their financial support. Any such fund to pay legal defence costs would have to be separately set up and administered.


At the heart of this campaign and Fund is a little girl confused, lonely and in need of her parents. This Fund's money will be focused on finding that little girl and leaving no stone unturned.
Maar dat al al de gedachte eigenlijk, alleen staat het nu in de pers. Fonds-geld voor top-advocaten en wat Metodo 3 ism other European investigation agencies doet is vooralsnog volstrekt onduidelijk.

En verder menen diverse posters op fora dat de McCanns na het bezoek aan Strassbourg wel eens de benen zouden kunnen nemen omdat ze dan direct op vakantie gaan, naar een land wat geen uitleveringsverdrag heeft met de UK of ook Portugal, want als er berecht wordt dan is dat in het laast genoemde land. Het ontlopen dus van een Europees aanhoudingsbevel of wel een EAW. Pure speculation of course omdat de McCanns onder die top-advocaten Caplan hebben ingehuurd, die (destijds samen met UK Home Secretary, Jack Straw) heeft voorkomen dat moordenaar Pinochet kon worden uitgeleverd. Zie BBC-artikel: Safe pair of hands for McCanns . Ook met de huidige Foreign Secretary Davis Miliband onderhouden de McCanns warme contacten sinds september 2007 dus dat zit mogelijk wel snor. Zie ook deze eerdere post over de bescherming van de McCanns.

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  maandag 16 juni 2008 @ 12:03:27 #104
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Tja Suko, Goedendag trouwens , laten we maar hopen dat de PJ de zaak aan het rondbreien is, zoals het nu lijkt wordt er op alle oud nieuws slakjes zout gelegd en komt er ondertussen niets nieuws meer binnen, wederom afwachten dus.......

Anorak wordt steeds meliger en stekeliger, al is het ook moeilijk een straight upper lip te houden bij sommige domme enormiteiten die worden bericht, zoals dit:
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Madeleine McCann: EastEnders Reacts, Evil GP And Relocated
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann

The newspapers’ hunt for Madeleine McCann has passed. The missing child now serves as a point of reference for anyone looking to add realism to a work of fiction:

PEOPLE: “I’m having a BLAST in EastEnders - EXCLUSIVE As evil GP Mad May is back to terrorise Walford actress Amanda Drew lifts lid on her return”

Eastenders’ “Mad May” is one of the most sinister psychos to grace Walford. The evil GP vanished last year after trying to steal her love rival’s baby.

A female doctor, like Kate McCann?

In an exclusive chat with The People, Amanda, 38, talks about being single, her friendship with Catherine Tate and why she was relieved when scriptwriters changed her storylines at the time Madeleine McCann went missing.


Firth things first:

Q When you left last year your storylines were rewritten because it was too similar to the Madeleine McCann disappearance.

How did you feel about it?

A As soon as Madeleine went missing I thought “no”. I was very worried and really relieved when they changed it. It was too raw a topic to be dealing with on a soap.

Because the typical soap watcher cannot differentiate between fact and a fiction?

In response to that script change Anorak was invited on the BBC’s Jeremy Vine show. The BBC produces EastEnders but no-one from the show arrived to comment on the decision to alter the script and then tell the world about it.

DAILY TELEGRAPH: “Relocated: chilling, vivid and unnervingly topical - Charles Spencer is unnerved but impressed by Relocated at the Royal Court”

The theatre’s knack of keeping its finger on the pulse of our troubled times is displayed yet again with Relocated, a deeply disconcerting new play by Anthony Neilson. I saw it on Friday night and it’s been nagging away in my head all weekend, like a half-remembered nightmare that taints your waking hours… This unsettling piece taps into a great fear of the age -…

Global warming? Terrorism? Being fat? Appearing on the Jeremy Kyle show?

…the abduction and abuse of children.

Indeed, ’tis every parents worst nightmare. The papers tell us so. But this play, isn’t it a game of Tabloid Bingo!

The play has clearly been inspired by the recently discovered activities of Herr Fritzl in that terrible basement in Austria, in which he fathered children on his own daughter and kept them in captivity.

But you also catch echoes of the Soham murders and Maxine Carr’s complicity with Ian Huntley, and of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

At the finale Shannon Matthews comes out dressed in a duvet cover and singing Climb Every Mountain in Portuguese
http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/184926.html

Dat zijjn een boel steken onderwater in zo'n klein stukje, me like!
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Mogguh Kahaarin en de rest. Ik heb nota bene jarenlang Eastenders gekeken maar sinds vorig jaar niet meer, qua saai, dus heb ik die kennelijk maffe May gemist. Toch een beetje zorgelijk, iedereen schiet in een soort McCann-mode als het ook maar enigszins gaat over gekte, kids, dokters, kan eigenlijk niet schelen wát, lijkt wel of bijna alles naar Madeleine leidt...komische zeker maar ook ietwat tragisch. Anyway, 24 Horas komt met een artikel, vertaald door Joana Morais:
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McCanns will be able to access the evidence - 24 Horas

Maddie process becomes public in July

McCanns will be able to see all the evidence

From July onwards, the [Maddie case] process will stop being under judicial secrecy and can be consulted by all the interested parties.” The statement was made yesterday to 24Horas by Pinto Monteiro, the Republic’s General Prosecutor.

The most senior officer responsible for the investigations into the disappearance of the little British girl, on the 3rd of May 2007, from an apartment in Praia da Luz, near Lagos, in the Algarve, only failed to name the precise date: “I don’t know the exact day, but in July the process stops being covered by the judicial secrecy”. According to what 24Horas was able to establish, it will be on the 14th of July that the process becomes public – one day before the judicial holidays.

The prosecutor also insisted in adding that this fact will not effect the investigations. “We won’t rest until the child is found. The fact that the judicial secrecy is lifted has nothing to do with the development of the investigations”, he stated, adding: “Until there is, either from the Public Ministry or from the judicial magistracy, a decision towards an accusation or an archiving, the process will continue, and so will the mission that has been given to the Polícia Judiciária, to clarify the case”.

In practical terms it will be August

Meanwhile, Rogério Alves, the McCanns’ lawyer, does not hide his pessimism: “I’m not going to comment on the case, but the information that we have is that we will only have access to the process in August.”

He may be correct, given the fact that the judicial holidays begin on the 15th of July and end one month later. During that period, the courts work only with shift judges. Which means that only the priority processes, with detained arguidos, will be forwarded.

“The Maddie case is not a priority. There are no detained persons. There are indices of a crime of neglect and child abandonment, but that accusation can wait”, said a senior officer at the Court in Portimão, where Maddie’s disappearance is being investigated.

Deadlines have run out

The process about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is being run at the Criminal Court in Portimão. The judicial secrecy on the case expires, according to what 24Horas was able to establish, on the 14th of July, and according to the new legislation, cannot be extended any further, given the fact that such has already happened twice – 90 days each – at the request of prosecutor Magalhães e Menezes. He is one of the persons that are responsible for the investigation, which is being carried out by the PJ.

Judicial authorities that were heard by 24Horas admit that with the deadlines on the judicial secrecy running out, the general prosecutor in Évora, Luís Bilro Verão, who was nominated to direct the process, has nothing solid in his hands that will allow for the child to be traced…
Zoals ik het begrijp is dat 14 juli de files openbaar worden, ook voor het publiek is voor mij niet duidelijk, daarna begint ook de vakantie in Portugal tot half augustus en worden alleen bestaande zaken, met vastzittende verdachten, behandeld. Het onderzoek zelf gaat gewoon door. De advocaat van de McCanns Rogério Alves zegt dat pas half augustus de files openbaar worden. Waarom zou hij dat nou beweren???

Zo, zal mij benieuwen óf er een aanklacht komt en indien ja, wat de inhoud zal zijn. Ook ben ik benieuwd wáár de McCanns op 14 juli verblijven. Of dat er tegen die tijd een enorme publiciteit van het een of ander in de pers komt (om eventueel slecht nieuws te overschaduwen, iets wat ze wel vaker flikken) over dat volstrekt overbodige Amber Alert systeem of zo. Nou al staan de kranten er vol van. Daar hebben Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis nog een interessant aanvullend artikel over: European missing children alert system being developed since 2006 + Just ignorance?
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[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Suko op 17-06-2008 10:05:30 (typo's) ]
  dinsdag 17 juni 2008 @ 17:24:19 #106
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Op dinsdag 17 juni 2008 09:57 schreef Suko het volgende:
Mogguh Kahaarin en de rest. Ik heb nota bene jarenlang Eastenders gekeken maar sinds vorig jaar niet meer, qua saai, dus heb ik die kennelijk maffe May gemist. Toch een beetje zorgelijk, iedereen schiet in een soort McCann-mode als het ook maar enigszins gaat over gekte, kids, dokters, kan eigenlijk niet schelen wát, lijkt wel of bijna alles naar Madeleine leidt...komische zeker maar ook ietwat tragisch. Anyway, 24 Horas komt met een artikel, vertaald door Joana Morais:
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Idd, wat een gedoe om de tere hartjes van de ouders, laat iedereen nu eens zoveel inkt verspillen aan het oproepen naar mensen die eventueel iets gezien hebben, ik vind het nog steeds zo raar dat ze gewoon van de aardbodem is verdwenen, dat kan toch bijna niet zo zijn zou je denken.
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Zoals ik het begrijp is dat 14 juli de files openbaar worden, ook voor het publiek is voor mij niet duidelijk, daarna begint ook de vakantie in Portugal tot half augustus en worden alleen bestaande zaken, met vastzittende verdachten, behandeld. Het onderzoek zelf gaat gewoon door. De advocaat van de McCanns Rogério Alves zegt dat pas half augustus de files openbaar worden. Waarom zou hij dat nou beweren???
Vanaf 14 juli zijn de stukken volgens mij opvraagbaar voor de McCanns/hun advocaat, als de PJ dan vervelend wil doen dan raakt die aanvraag ook een half jaar "kwijt".
Ik denk dat de PJ de stukken niet openbaar wil maken en de McCanns ook pas na rijp beraad en selectie van de stukken die ze vrij wensen te geven, schone konte Suko, schone konten!
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Zo, zal mij benieuwen óf er een aanklacht komt en indien ja, wat de inhoud zal zijn. Ook ben ik benieuwd wáár de McCanns op 14 juli verblijven. Of dat er tegen die tijd een enorme publiciteit van het een of ander in de pers komt (om eventueel slecht nieuws te overschaduwen, iets wat ze wel vaker flikken) over dat volstrekt overbodige Amber Alert systeem of zo. Nou al staan de kranten er vol van. Daar hebben Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis nog een interessant aanvullend artikel over: European missing children alert system being developed since 2006 + Just ignorance?
Een aanklacht komt er, dat kan door al dat circus bijna niet anders, nu alleen afwachten wat er uit komt.

Over dat Amber alert:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/n(...)stem-89520-20610859/
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Madeleine McCann’s parents today held a series of meetings with MEPs in Strasbourg in a renewed effort to secure backing for a Europe-wide child abduction alert system.

Gerry and Kate McCann need 393 signatures to ensure the written declaration proposal is sent to the EU President and published.

So far they have obtained 225 signatures, leaving them another 168 to collect before the plenary session closes on July 24.

Among those the couple were due to lobby were members of the UK Independence Party (UKIP).

The Euro-sceptic party refuses to sign declarations on a point of principle, but Mr and Mrs McCann hope it will make an exception in their case.

Speaking after their arrival at the parliament building, Mr McCann said: "This is an important issue and Europe needs to work together. We want to get as many signatures as possible but there's limited time left."

Het gaat dus niet zo goed met de handtekeningen......
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Op dinsdag 17 juni 2008 17:24 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Idd, wat een gedoe om de tere hartjes van de ouders, laat iedereen nu eens zoveel inkt verspillen aan het oproepen naar mensen die eventueel iets gezien hebben, ik vind het nog steeds zo raar dat ze gewoon van de aardbodem is verdwenen, dat kan toch bijna niet zo zijn zou je denken.
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Vanaf 14 juli zijn de stukken volgens mij opvraagbaar voor de McCanns/hun advocaat, als de PJ dan vervelend wil doen dan raakt die aanvraag ook een half jaar "kwijt".
Ik denk dat de PJ de stukken niet openbaar wil maken en de McCanns ook pas na rijp beraad en selectie van de stukken die ze vrij wensen te geven, schone konte Suko, schone konten!
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Een aanklacht komt er, dat kan door al dat circus bijna niet anders, nu alleen afwachten wat er uit komt.

Over dat Amber alert:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/n(...)stem-89520-20610859/
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Het gaat dus niet zo goed met de handtekeningen......
Ik heb inmiddels ook begrepen dat de stukken alleen voor de betrokkenen zijn in te zien, en ja wie weet wordt niet alles vrijgegeven....de PJ is echt niet achterlijk en indeed, desnoods maar ff kwijt raken.... En stel dat het team McCann alleen iets vrijgeeft dat hen wel uitkomt, dan hebben we altijd Robert Murat nog. Hij zit in een andere positie dan de McCanns. The Times: "Robert Murat, 34, the other official suspect, will also have access to the evidence which he hopes will clear his name." Maar goed, deze krant schrijft ook dat ze álle stukken krijgen: "This will mean that the thousands of pages of witness statements and other evidence will be made available to the McCanns and their lawyers before being opened to the press and public" Dus na verloop van tijd krijgt het publiek ook mogelijke wat info. Zal de status van Murat als Arguido worden opgeheven? Ik lees daar niks over. En verder zal waarschijnlijk voormalig cop Amaral ook iets sappigs hebben mede te delen, hij is een enorme informatiebron en dat aangekondigde boek zal nu wel spoedig uitkomen! Wat dat artikel in The Mirror betreft, dat is imo een jankverhaal van Gerry. M.a.w als dat (overbodige) systeem (zonder enige rechtsgeldigheid omdat zoiets al in voorbereiding is siinds 2006) er niet komt is het de schuld van de MP's, de McCanns hebben er alles aan gedaan, behalve zoeken naar hun eigen kind....maar dat is al nooit hun prioriteit geweest.

Ha ha, is lees net van Astro (eveneens Portugees, die ook artikelen schrijft én vertaald op de site van Joana Morais) wat betreft de inzage van de files: " I've checked the Portuguese Penal Process Code, the revised version of September 2007, articles 86 - 90, and my understanding is that once the judicial secrecy is lifted, anyone can file a request, specifying for what motives one wants to access the files, and then one is either granted a consultation date - or not. So grab your sleeping bags and thermos cans, and get into the queue at the Portimão Courthouse. Don't forget some tranquilisers - you're up against Portuguese bureaucracy. Good luck!" 3arguidoforum

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Niet te geloven. Een poster schreef dat Kate McCann op de persconferentie vanavond in Strassbourg heeft beweerd dat als dat Amber Alert systeem al in werking was geweest voordat Madeleine werd vermist: "then especially in the first hours people would have taken the case more seriously and......wait for it.........
.............. THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE HELP FROM THE PUBLIC!!!"

Dat vrouwmens Kate is echt gestoord. Vakantiegangers in Praia da Laz en de bewoners hebben een week lang alles afgestruind terwijl de McCanns niets hebben ondernomen, (eerst de hele nacht gebeden meldden ze onlangs, dat schiet lekker op) behalve dan beppen met de pers, dag en nacht mobileren (met wie...), daarna fotoshoots gedaan, joggen, vrienden en familie ontvangen, campagne/reizen plannen, website mede hekpen opzetten etc etc etc. Zie eerdere post, qua transscript interview met Jane Hill < daar zeggen ze niks over dat bidden trouwens.

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En verder tijdens de persconferentie weer de pijnlijke vraag waarom ze Madeleine alleen lieten, een poster schrijft:
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Found this on Portugal Diario, http://diario.iol.pt/soci(...)401-4071.html,Google translation - faites attention! "McCann react badly to questions"
Parents of Madeleine liked not to be questioned about the fact that they left the girl alone

The parents of Madeleine McCann reacted badly, this Tuesday in Strasbourg, on the issues that have left his daughter alone on the night of the disappearance, claiming that the "real issue" is the abduction, the Lusa news.

Kate and Gerry McCann participated in a press conference in the European Parliament (EP) to promote a petition launched two months ago in Brussels with a view to establishing, at Community level, a system of alert for missing children.

When questioned about the fact that on the night in which disappeared in May last year, the Algarve, Madeleine McCann find itself alone in the apartment, the child's parents British - made defendants in Portugal - said to be tired of that question, saying that people should be focusing on the crime committed.

"Do not abandoned or neglected the Madeleine. Someone entered the apartment and took a child. That is the question. Frankly(?) this matter is really very boring," said Gerry McCann. Kate McCann also said that "the real issue is that a child was kidnapped and there is a criminal who still goes out there."

"We must concentrate on the real issue. No aid is to continue to raise this issue. Nothing has changed in the last 14 months and not understand that once again we talk about it," he said.
Dat antwoord gaven ze ook al onlangs in het programma Breakfast van de BBC, té pijnlijk zeker?!

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Scherp van Beachy: "Madeleine's case would not even have qualified for an AMBER alert. Under the guidelines for issuing an AMBER alert, the police have to verify that an abduction has occurred before the alert can be issued: http://www.amberalert.gov/guidelines.htm

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Ook de Liverpool Daily Post durft de pijnlijke vraag van een reporter tijdens de persconferentie in Strassbourg vanavond te publiceren: "At the press conference, the couple faced more questions from the Portuguese media about their actions on the night Madeleine vanished.

Responding to a television reporter's suggestion that they could face child neglect charges, Mr McCann said: "We didn't abandon or neglect Madeleine. Someone went into an apartment and stole a child. "You have gone over old ground. It’s really quite boring. We want to focus on issues that can make a difference." Ook op Sky News.Hoe afstandelijk:
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Someone went into an apartment and stole a child.
Maar dan blijft natuurlijk de vraag, niet alleen abandon or neglect van Madeleine, maar ook zeker dat door deze houding Madeleine niet meer leeft. Het onderzoek omvat derhalve nog steeds: In the judgement from the Tribunal da Relação de Évora, by Judge Fernando Ribeiro Cardoso on 29 April, it was revealed that the McCanns were being investigated for allegedly neglecting their daughter and that the police inquiry covered the possibilities of homicide, abandonment, concealment of a corpse and abduction. <<< Take note Gerry McCann.

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Toch wel frappant dat ook Nigel (net als ik in een eerdere post) dat fragment even toelicht waar Kate McCann op de persconferentie gisteravond in Strassbourg het publiek een enorm verwijt maakt door te stellen dat het niet voldoende heeft gezocht in de eerste uren dat Madeleine werd 'vermist.'
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Madeleine's Mum On Alert Campaign, 17 June 2008
Jun 17, 2008
Madeleine McCann's parents have made a new attempt to win support for their Europe-wide alert system for abducted children. The missing girl's mother Kate McCann spoke about whether or not the scheme would have helped find Madeleine.

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Transcript:

Kate McCann: "I believe it would have given us a greater chance. Errm... I think the awareness early on in the critical hours would have been greater and hence I think there would have been more help from the public... errm, at that crucial time and potentially Madeleine may have been retrieved. We'll never know but there is a possibility, yes."

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A reminder of the help the public gave, whilst Kate remained in the McCanns apartment ringing relatives and friends, and praying:

British girl missing on Algarve holiday Independent

Friday, 4 May 2007

Holidaymakers and police were desperately searching today for a young British girl who went missing while on holiday in Portugal.

Three-year-old Madeleine McCann vanished from her parents' rented apartment in the Algarve last night as they dined nearby.

Tourists joined resort staff in a "frantic" all-night search for the little girl, who was described by a neighbour as "happy-go-lucky" and idolised by her "protective" parents, Gerry and Kate.

Today the manager at the Ocean Club - a holiday resort run by British travel firm Mark Warner in the south west seaside village of Praia Da Luz - said the couple, both doctors from Leicester, were "distraught".

John Hill said: "It was a very emotional and very frantic night and everyone did a fantastic job of getting involved and trying to search the area.

"As you can imagine, Madeleine's parents are distraught and not doing very well at all."

Around 60 staff and guests at the purpose-built complex searched until 4.30am while police notified border police, Spanish police and airports.

Sniffer dogs were brought in by Portuguese detectives to comb the area but as the hours went by, hopes that Madeleine merely wandered off were fading.

The first interview with Jane Hill from the BBC - 25 May 2007, Kate admits never actually 'physically searching' for Madeleine

Jane Hill: "I met people who didn't go to work for more than a week because everyday they were down on the beach, searching the streets. Did you, as a mother Kate, just sometimes think 'I've got to go and be out there with them. I want to go and just physically look as well."

Kate: (Pause) I mean, I did. Errm... (Long Pause) Errm, we'd been working really hard really. Apart... I mean, the first 48 hours, as Gerry said, are incredibly difficult and we were almost non-functioning, I'd say, errm, but after that you get strength from somewhere. We've certainly had loads of support and that's given us strength and its been able to make us focus really so we have actually, in our own way, it might not be physically searching but we've been working really hard and doing absolutely everything we can really to get Madeleine back."
Op de site van Nigel staat ook een filmpje, ik kan dat niet zien, misschien anderen wel...

En ook op deze site (Friday 25th May 2007) geeft Kate McCann toe: "Kate spoke for the fist time – “I did want to go and look for Maddie myself – and we’ve been working really hard every day – the first 48 hrs were the most difficult we were almost non-functioning to begin with – but the support and strength from others has really helped – we may not have been physically searching but we have been very busy.”

Opvallend trouwens dat het bezoek aan Strassbourg+persconferentie vandaag nergens de Britse headlines (papieren versies) heeft gehaald, ook niet gisteravond en vanmorgen op BBC-news > tv.

Overigens lijkt de missie van de McCanns nog niet echt suksesvol: "The remarks were considered by several Members of European Parliament a “diplomatic answer” to the McCann strong critics to the European Parliament project. The parents of Madeleine McCann went to Strasbourg today, trying to get the support of more 182 MEPs, for a “written declaration” that appeals for a system similar to the American Amber alert to be set up in EU, but they only managed to get 15 more signatures and are far from the 393 needed." http://gazetadigitalmadel(...)-jacques-barrot.html

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Als reactie op het nieuws dat het team McCann de files binnenkort kan inzien, zie ik deze twee veelzeggende commentaren staan, onder het artikel in de The Herald:
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Come on Herald - let's see some serious reporting on this case. Ask the real questions. Quote | Report this postPosted by: Murray, UK on 12:49am today

Have to agree with JamesM, there is obviously a huge, as yet, untold story here. Are the Herald brave enough to really investigate it?You may be the last newspaper in Britain with the courage to do so. I hope so anyway.


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Veel is al gepost over het gebeuren van gisteren maar toch maar even dit artikel. 24 Horas vat het nog even samen in een vertaling van Astro op de site van Joana Morais:
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Kate and Gerry at the European Parliament, to speak about missing children

The McCanns were in Strasbourg yesterday to take care of a petition and ended up reacting, in an irritated manner, to questions from the journalists about the evening of the 3rd of May 2007


McCanns lose their calm

Kate and Gerry were in Strasbourg yesterday, where they convinced 225 MEPs to sign the petition for the creation of an European alert system for missing children. The problem, for the McCanns, was the press conference that they gave in the late afternoon. The journalists’ favourite dish was not the petition, but rather the couple’s behaviour on the evening of the 3rd of May 2007, when Madeleine disappeared in Praia da Luz, Algarve.

One of the questions was why they left their daughter alone on the fateful night. The McCanns reacted with a bad temper. The “real issue”, they underlined, is the abduction. “We did not abandon or neglect Madeleine. Someone entered the apartment and took a child. That is the issue. To go over that matter is very boring”, Gerry McCann said. Kate supported her husband, with the same irritation: “The real issue is that a child was abducted and there is a criminal who is still out there”.

Gerry insisted. “We need to focus on the real issue. Continuously raising that question is unhelpful. Nothing has changed over the last 14 months and I don’t understand why we are talking about that, again”.

The couple only calmed down when they were allowed to speak again about the issue that was on their agenda: the petition to create a European alert system for missing children. Kate and Gerry thanked the 225 MEPs that have already signed the petition, and exhorted others to do it.

They remembered that 393 signatures are necessary, half of the hemicycle, until the end of July, in order for the text to be sent to the European Commission and for the communitarian executive to present a proposal in that sense to the Council. In Brussels’ hallways, there are some who accuse the McCanns of a “media maneuver” with this initiative.

“What is the use of this petition? There is already a European law proposal for the creation of such an alert system. It is on its way to being approved in Strasbourg, and then to be taken before the European Commission. That proposal, which has been worked upon for quite some time, will then have to be approved by each member state”, a source in Brussels criticized.

“Media maneuver”

The same source remembered that the McCanns have “associated themselves to an initiative that belongs to the European Commission, in a media maneuver”. One of the main promoters of that initiative was Margarida Sousa Uva, the wife of the president of the European Union, Durão Barroso.

In March, Sousa Uva alerted in Brussels to the “lack of political will” within the 27 to create an effective alert system. One month later, in April, the McCanns met with a group of MEPs that wrote the text about the European alert. It was then that they started speaking about the petition.

Numbers

14 of July is the date from which the Maddie process ceases to be covered by the judicial secrecy. The McCanns heard about that date through 24Horas, yesterday.

4 is the number of European Union member states that have an alert system: Germany, France, Greece and the United Kingdom. The proposal intends to widen it on 27.
Variant op de foto...gezien op het 3arguidoforum, kon het even niet laten.



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  woensdag 18 juni 2008 @ 19:21:53 #113
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Foei!

Hey Suko en de rest, goedenavond!
Goed het rondje Anorak, er broeit iets heb ik het idee......Kijk maar:

http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/185001.html
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Madeleine McCann: Speculation As Fact, Newspapers Speak With One Voice And OAP Dead
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann



The newspapers continue to rely on press releases and Gerry McCann’s blog for their investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

THE SUN: “Maddie police files to open”

KATE and Gerry McCann will soon have access to police files covering the search for missing daughter Maddie

This is presented as a fact.

Says the McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell: “We’ve heard nothing officially, but if it’s true judicial secrecy has been lifted we welcome it.”

So how does the Sun know about the police files?

THE STAR: “MADDIE COPS TO SHOW MCCANNS EVIDENCE”

Gerry and Kate McCann will be given full access to confidential case files, Portugal’s top law officer revealed yesterday.

Portugal’s top legal eagle told them? But how does the Star know?

DAILY MAIL: “MCCANNS TO FINALLY FIND OUT ‘EVIDENCE’ MADELEINE POLICE HAVE AGAINST THEM”

Attorney general Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro told daily newspaper 24 Horas: “From July, the (Madeleine) case will cease to be covered by judicial secrecy, and will be available to consultation by all parties involved. I do not know which date, but in July the case ceases to be covered by judicial secrecy.”

That’s right – this latest McCann story is rooted in an opinion voiced in a Portuguese newspaper.

Says the Mail: “24 Horas speculated the judicial secrecy will end on July 14 - more than 10 months after the couple were named suspects.”

Speculated? But what of the facts? Well, here they are:

The McCanns, both 40-year-old doctors from Rothley, Leics, were made official suspects last September but have never been arrested or charged and vigorously deny any wrongdoing.

Such are the facts.

DAILY TELEGRAPH: “Madeleine McCann: evidence against parents to be revealed
Facts:

The McCanns, both 40-year-old doctors from Rothley, Leics, were made official suspects last September but have never been arrested or charged and vigorously deny any wrongdoing.

Is the Telegraph reading the Mail, or vice versa?

THE TIMES: Kate and Gerry McCann to be told why police made them suspects in disappearance of Maddy

The announcement came as Mr and Mrs McCann embarked on a series of meetings with MEPs in Strasbourg in a renewed effort to secure backing for a Europe-wide child abduction alert system.

The couple have until July 24 - the close of the plenary session - to collect the signatures needed to ensure that their proposal, in the form of a written declaration, is sent to the EU President and published.

They have chalked up 225 signatures so far, leaving them another 168 to collect.

Mr McCann said: “This is an important issue and Europe needs to work together. We want to get as many signatures as possible but there’s limited time left.”

DAILY RECORD: “Dolina Cops Find Grave In Woods”

POLICE searching for missing OAP Dolina Maclean yesterday found a shallow grave in woods. The grim discovery was made in a dense pine forest near the village of Dunning in Perthshire.

Forensic experts, including officers who worked on the Madeleine McCann and Moira Jones cases, spent the day combing the area for evidence.

Madeleine McCann – Press f9 for an easy reference to any story
Het muggenziften, vingerwijzen en kontenpoetsen is weer begonnen, wordt vervolgd dus....
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Hoooooi Kahaarin, yep, het tij lijkt te keren, ook gezien de hier eerder geplaatste artikelen van gisteren en vandaag. Het feit dat de McCanns kritische vragen van journo's maar 'boring' vinden (waarom ze hun kids alleen lieten) heeft kwaad bloed gezet. Ook die enorme tik van Kate McCann (die zelf niet eens ging zoeken) naar het publiek dat ze niet echt hebben gezocht de eerste uren is op z'n zachts gezegd een vette blunder En natuurlijk de weigering om aan de reconstructie deel te nemen zijn de mensen ook niet vergeten. Opvallend ook dat Sky News de vaak kritische commentaren nu voorlopig ongemoeid laat, maar zijn inmiddels voor de zekerheid wel verzameld door het 3arguidoforum. SKY RUNNING THE MCCANN STORY WITH YOUR COMMENTS Er is al gepost op het Sky forum met vragen om de meeste commentaren te verwijderen, wie zouden dan nou zijn....

En om het nog even duidelijk te krijgen, een fragment uit het artikel van de journo's Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis:
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“EU Vice-President Jacques Barrot REJECTS McCann's project of a European Amber alert”, was the headline. It doesn't say that Barroso and Barrot are against the idea of a rapid response alert, just that they don't support the McCann's “recent” idea, launched with the help of five Members of European Parliament. What Barrot said is very clear, I think: The EU will proceed with it's own legislative process of setting up a missing children alert system, following the formal decisions already taken, since 2006 (among others, a legal decision approved in the beginning of this year by the European Parliament). The EU Commission has it's own project of a rapid response scheme, since 2006. And that is the project that EU and Barrot are willing to set up - not the McCann's inspired proposal of doing something vague and similar as the USA have done, with the Amber Alert. Check what Carlos Coelho, a Portuguese MEP from PSD said: "The McCann couple launched a public relations campaign, trying to "seize" a policy that is already being enforced..." (and watch the exasperation of Kate and Gerry McCann, when questioned by journalists about the fact they left three children alone...)
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Nog even iets opmerkelijks op het 3arguidoforum gelezen, het valt al op dat The Mirror mogelijk een ommezwaai maakt tav de McCanns. Sobere berichtgeving e.d. En nu dit: "With over 2 dozen pages on which to accommodate it's report entitled 'McCanns to see cops' Maddy files' the Mirror sees fit to place it slap bang adjacent to a report on an arrest for murder after 9 years, within which is the paragraph: 'Detectives also found a note that appeared to list ways of disposing a body. It read:"1) By sea 2) Acid 3) Landfill 4) Burning." Too much of a coincidence it would appear. Simply astounding."

En aangezien een krant met de opmaak van een pagina niets aan het toeval overlaat, klik op de foto voor de details, kijk aan de rechterkant.



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Op woensdag 18 juni 2008 23:49 schreef Suko het volgende:
Nog even iets opmerkelijks op het 3arguidoforum gelezen, het valt al op dat The Mirror mogelijk een ommezwaai maakt tav de McCanns. Sobere berichtgeving e.d. En nu dit: "With over 2 dozen pages on which to accommodate it's report entitled 'McCanns to see cops' Maddy files' the Mirror sees fit to place it slap bang adjacent to a report on an arrest for murder after 9 years, within which is the paragraph: 'Detectives also found a note that appeared to list ways of disposing a body. It read:"1) By sea 2) Acid 3) Landfill 4) Burning." Too much of a coincidence it would appear. Simply astounding."

En aangezien een krant met de opmaak van een pagina niets aan het toeval overlaat, klik op de foto voor de details, kijk aan de rechterkant.
Komen we misschien wéér bij
Och dat komt uit de koker van CM, nu kan hij weer zielig lopen doen en zijn clienten afschilderen als engeltje eerste klas.
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Madeleine McCann: Marie Claire’s Web Traffic And Eoin Ryan Knows
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann

Marie Claire: “McCanns finally see Madeleine files”

Or not. Kate and Gerry McCann have not seen the police files on them. But no matter – the headline should get some good web traffic for the women’s glossy…

HERALD (Ireland): “McCanns are innocent says Ryan”

It’s Ireland top detective MEP Eoin Ryan.

The Fianna Fail politician was speaking in the wake of a private meeting with Kate and Gerry McCann in Strasbourg.

Referring to previous allegations, he said: “I don’t think anyone believes that.”

He said those allegations have been “poo-pooed”.

Maybe he’s seen the police files..?
Rondje Anorak: http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/185038.html
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Op donderdag 19 juni 2008 11:14 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Och dat komt uit de koker van CM, nu kan hij weer zielig lopen doen en zijn clienten afschilderen als engeltje eerste klas.
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Rondje Anorak: http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/185038.html
Denk 't niet Kahaarin, mogguh trouwens, want dat artikel naast die van de McCanns gaat over iets anders maar betreft wel hoe mogelijk een body is 'kwijt' gemaakt en dát is niet toevallig naast de McCanns geplaatst. Sowieso is de stemming in de kranten aan het veranderen, de kritische commentaren in bv Sky News staan er nog steeds en ook in de Schotse krant The Herald naast de eerdere twee die ik eerder plaatste. Verder weinig nieuws behalve dat mogelijk de periode wordt verlengd om de handtekeningen van nog meer MP's te verkrijgen ivm dat Amber Alert, zie > sosmaddie.be + Liverpool Daily Post, of benne dat weer Clarrie-sprookjes... Oja. een heerlijk topic op het 3arguidoforum, that'll be the day...Is'nt It?! Maar het leest prettig weg....
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  vrijdag 20 juni 2008 @ 18:01:12 #118
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Goedemiddag!
En maar blijven zeuren dat zo'n systeem Maddy had kunnen redden, de politie was er helemaal niet van overtuigd dat ze ontvoerd was, er was geen dader aan te wijzen en hoe zou een Amber alert in godsnaam hebben kunnen helpen?

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To activate the AMBER Alert Notification Plan in Illinois, law enforcement agencies must ensure the following criteria
are met:

1. Law enforcement must confirm a child has been abducted.

2. The child must be under the age of 16 or have a proven mental or physical disability.

3. Law enforcement must believe the child is in danger of serious bodily harm or death.

4. There is enough descriptive information about the child, abductor, and/or suspect’s vehicle to believe an immediate broadcast alert will help.


http://www.amberillinois.org/

Er zou helemaal geen Amber alert uitgevaardigd zijn geweest want er is geen beschrijving van de dader, geen 100% zekerheid dat ze is ontvoerd en geen indicatie dat ze in gevaar zou zijn, maar goed.......

Info over Amber:
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In 1996, nine-year-old Amber Hagerman was abducted while playing near her home in Arlington, Texas, and later found murdered. In response to community concern, the Texas Association of Radio Managers, with the assistance of Texas’ local area law enforcement, created the first AMBER Plan. All fifty states now have similar plans.

The Illinois AMBER Alert Notification Plan is a voluntary partnership between law enforcement agencies, broadcasters, and the National Weather Service to activate an urgent bulletin in the most serious child abduction cases. This is the same concept used during severe weather emergencies. The goal of the AMBER Alert is to instantly galvanize the entire community to assist in the search for and safe return of the child.

Het lijkt er op dat het gaat lukken, ze moeten nog maar 85 handtekeningen:
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MORE MEPS SIGN UP FOR MCCANN SCHEME


Kate and Gerry McCann "encouraged" by child alert system support
Friday June 20,2008


More MEPs have signed up to a campaign by the parents of Madeleine McCann for a Europe-wide child abduction alert scheme.

Gerry and Kate McCann visited the European Parliament in Strasbourg on Tuesday needing another 182 signatures for their proposal to be considered by commissioners.

They are now just 85 short of the number needed following a day-long visit that included a series of meetings with leading MEPs.

And the extra names collected in the past 24 hours, giving them 308 in total, are set to buy them more time.

The McCanns, from Rothley in Leicestershire, travelled to Strasbourg needing a total of 393 signatures by July 24 - the end of the current plenary session - for their written declaration to be published and sent to the European Commission president.

But the couple have since been told that if they pass the 300 mark they will be given until the end of the September plenary to get the support they need.

Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, said: "Kate and Gerry McCann are very pleased with the support of MEPs since their visit. Clearly 85 more MEPs need to be convinced and that work will be continuing very much behind the scenes.

"Kate and Gerry are very hopeful that they can achieve those signatures before the deadline of July 24."

A declaration signed by a majority of MEPs would carry no legal weight but it would indicate a political will to see such a scheme implemented.

The McCanns launched their drive for the US-style Amber Alert in Brussels in April. Madeleine went missing from her family's holiday apartment, in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3 last year.
http://www.express.co.uk/(...)up-for-McCann-scheme

En ja hoor, de Sun noemt het al het Maddy-alert........
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Maddie alert wins backing

MORE MEPs signed up to a campaign by the parents of Madeleine McCann for a Europe-wide child abduction alert scheme, the couple’s spokesman said today.

Gerry and Kate McCann visited the European Parliament in Strasbourg on Tuesday needing another 182 signatures for their proposal to be considered by commissioners.

Today, they are just 85 short of the number needed following a day-long visit that included a series of meetings with leading MEPs.

And the extra names collected in the past 24 hours, giving them 308 in total, are set to buy them more time.

The McCanns, from Rothley in Leicestershire, travelled to Strasbourg needing a total of 393 signatures by July 24 - the end of the current plenary session - for their written declaration to be published and sent to the European Commission president.


Declaration

But the couple have since been told that if they pass the 300 mark they will be given until the end of the September plenary to get the support they need.

Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesman, said: “Kate and Gerry McCann are very pleased with the support of MEPs since their visit.

“Clearly 85 more MEPs need to be convinced and that work will be continuing very much behind the scenes.

“Kate and Gerry are very hopeful that they can achieve those signatures before the deadline of July 24.”

A declaration signed by a majority of MEPs would carry no legal weight but it would indicate a political will to see such a scheme implemented.

The McCanns launched their drive for the US-style Amber Alert in Brussels in April.

Madeleine went missing from her family’s holiday apartment, in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3 last year.

The McCanns believe a European version of Amber Alert - which notifies the public via media across the US when police confirm a child has been abducted - would have helped the search for their daughter, then aged three, in the crucial hours after her disappearance.

MEPs sponsoring the declaration include European Parliament Vice-President Edward McMillan-Scott, Glenys Kinnock and Evelyne Gebhardt.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/s(...)e/article1319195.ece

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Hoi Kahaarin, yep zoals al vaker is gesteld, dat Amber Alert systeem zou niet voor Madeleine in werking zijn getreden gezien de gegeven voorwaarden. En Maddy alert, zum kotzen, en zo voorspelbaar. De McCanns hebben zich zo ingegraven en omgeven met mensen van enig importantie dat het moeilijk lijkt te worden hen nog te aanklagen voor op z'n minst neglect indien men het milde scènario hanteert. IMO allemaal vooropgezet. De 'wider agenda' zoals Gerry Mccann al liet zien op 16 juni vorig jaar. En dat terwijl er al sinds 2006 wordt gewerkt aan zo'n systeem, ze hebben het gewoon naar zich toegetrokken en nogmaals: "The “written declaration” to which McMilan-Scott agreed to associate Kate and Gerry McCann thus does not contain anything new, when compared with the legislative project of the European institutions." Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis, die ook een variant hebben bedacht: "McCann Alert” En verder interesseert mij dat hele gedoe echt niet meer. What ever happend to Madeleine....? Ben alleen nog benieuwd wat half juli gaat opbrengen, als de secrecy op de files wordt opgeheven, voor de rest is het bollocks aka schone konten vegen/halen, they don't give a damn, not at all!

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Mmm, wat te denken van dit bericht in de telegraph:
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Madeleine McCann: parents' court bid for information
by Gordon Rayner, Chief Reporter
Last Updated: 7:26PM BST 20/06/2008

Kate and Gerry McCann are to ask a High Court judge to order the release of police documents which they hope will kick-start the search for their missing daughter Madeleine, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

The McCanns hope their application to Mrs Justice Hogg will result in Leicestershire Police opening their files on scores of reported sightings of Madeleine, most of which have been passed on to them by police in Portugal, where the four-year-old disappeared in May last year.

Until now police in Leicestershire, the McCanns' home county, have refused the couple's requests for information about sightings, saying they are bound by the terms of an agreement with Portuguese police. But Mr and Mrs McCann, who retain the services of a Spanish-based detective agency, are anxious to make sure that every possible lead has been checked out, which they believe the Portuguese police, whose investigation is gradually being wound down, may not be able to do.

The Telegraph can also disclose that Madeleine was made a ward of court last summer at the request of the McCanns, to empower judges to act in her best interests in any legal dispute such as the case which is about to be heard. Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesman, said: “I can state that on the instigation of Gerry and Kate McCann Madeleine is a ward of the High Court of England and Wales.

“An application has been made on Madeleine’s behalf by her parents for disclosure of certain documents. The hearing is currently scheduled for July 7 in the High Court in London. “It has been the stated intention of Gerry and Kate McCann to leave no stone unturned in doing everything necessary to search for their daughter, as would any parent.

“This application is just part of their search for Madeleine.” Madeleine’s status as a ward of court has never been disclosed by her parents, who quietly made a wardship application in the High Court just weeks after she went missing.

The couple’s legal team had advised them to ask for Madeleine to be made a ward of court because wardship status gives the courts certain statutory powers to act on her behalf in legal disputes such as the one which has arisen with Leicestershire police.

They still believe their daughter is alive and hope the police files may contain information which could yet lead to a breakthrough. The case is listed to be heard in open court on July 7 in the Family Division of the High Court in London, and is expected to be contested by Leicestershire Police, according to legal sources.

Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, said: "Kate and Gerry have always said that they will do whatever is necessary to find Madeleine and that they will leave no stone unturned in their search for their daughter. "They will take whatever legal steps are necessary if there is information out there that can assist their private investigation into finding Madeleine. Beyond that I cannot make any comment."

Mr Mitchell said the hearing would not involve any attempt by the McCanns to clear their names by proving they were not involved in their daughter's disappearance from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz. They remain official suspects, or arguidos, in Portugal. In recent months the couple have become increasingly frustrated at the slow progress of the Portuguese investigation, and they suspect that many possible sightings of Madeleine have not been followed up at all.

If they are given access to the police files on reported sightings, each one will be looked into by private investigators retained by the couple. For the past year the McCanns have employed Metodo 3, a Barcelona-based detective agency, to carry out an investigation in parallel with the Portuguese police inquiry.

The agency has checked out sightings as far afield as North Africa and South America – all of which have proved to be false – using either its own staff or affiliated firms, which it says it can do far more quickly than the police.

In one instance earlier this year, the agency ruled out a sighting of Madeleine in Chile within three hours of receiving a tip-off, by employing local investigators to track down the girl concerned. The agency argues that police would have taken days to achieve a similar result because they would have been hampered by bureaucracy and official procedure.

Earlier this week Portugal's Attorney General suggested that police files may be opened up at the end of July, but the McCanns fear his comments may prove to be another false dawn.

Their case is being heard in the Family Division because it involves the welfare of a child. Mrs Justice Hogg, a specialist in child welfare cases, is the sister of former cabinet minister Douglas Hogg and the daughter of former Lord Chancellor Lord Hailsham.
Nou vind ik alles wat met wetgeving te maken heeft al lastig te begrijpen, maar sommige suggereren dat dit meer om de tweeling gaat (social services qua wat gaan we doen met die 2 als er een aanklacht komt?) dan om het zoeken naar Madeleine en namens haar files te bemachtigen. Mogelijk moet ik begrijpen dat Madeleine onder curatele wordt geplaatst, iets wat de McCanns al vorig jaar zomer hadden ingezet op advies van hun advocaten. En dat die onderzoeks-documenten dan in handen worden gegeven van Metodo 3 is helemaal grof. Alleen maar om nog meer getuigen te intimideren? Het gerechtshof zal daar echt niet intrappen. Opmerkelijk ook dat ze in de clinch gaan met de Leicestershire politie, wat steekt hier nou weer achter... behalve dat de PJ in wezen eigenaar is van de files en derhalve de Portigese wet daarop van kracht is, ook in de UK.

Eén van de vele commenteren op het 3arguidofrorum: "Ward of court - A minor (under 18) who is the subject of a wardship order. The order ensures that the court has custody, with day-to-day care carried out by an individual(s) or local authority. As long as the minor remains a ward of court, all decisions regarding the minor's upbringing must be approved by the court Sounds to me like the court acted (probably when they became arguidos) and Clarence has been keeping it very quiet until now."

En iemand anders geeft er een heel andere draai aan: "Read that statement again slowly. It paraphrases Clarence's statement quite nicely. And it makes NO SENSE at all. A ward of court decision is there to decide things such as which parent a kid should live with, or to agree arrangements for its welfare. It is NOT there to get the courts to try and overrule the police in a criminal investigation.

This is a blatant spin. He had next to no material to spin with. The UK cops don't even have the statements about sightings - they will be in the Portuguese dossier. The McCanns requested she become a ward of court. PUHHLEEEEEZE......."

Nog een suggestïe: "This is what I think...I think there was a Family Court case scheduled re: the McCanns for July 7. It may well have been to do with the twins.

I think the news was about to break that both the twins and Madeleine were made wards of the court back in the summer when Social Services got involved. I think the McCanns / lawyers hurriedly got involved and asked for some minor request for information, which they knew would guarantee secrecy - and they probably asked for the request to be combined with the case on July 7, thereby guaranteeing that whatever was going to be heard, would be heard in secrecy. Either that, or the request for information is a diversion from another court case, which deals with the twins. Possibly they're both being held on the same day?"

Ook een goeie: "As an ex social worker I would think it quite possible all three children were made wards of the court based on the parental behaviour. Nothing is ever made public by social services even when the public is trashing them for not doing anything when in fact they have. It would certainly explain to me why they did not return England and chose to stay in Portugal until they faced arrest. They could have been afraid social services would take the twins as soon as they hit British soil."

Pfff...ha ha. Anyway, verschillende zienswijzen wát er precies in dit artikel staat en waarom nu op 7 juli, vlak voordat mogelijk de files half juli of zo mogen worden ingekeken oid?

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[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door Suko op 21-06-2008 09:00:53 (typo's+extra commentaar) ]
  zondag 22 juni 2008 @ 00:17:55 #121
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Hallo Suko & Kahaarin,
Ik vraag me een ding af; als ze de stukken willen inzien kan dat dan in de UK of moeten ze dan naar Portugal ?
FOK!'s rode weduwe.
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Mogguh Tmaatje en de rest. Nee hoor, die stukken zijn ook in de UK in te zien, maar hoe en wat en wanneer wordt door de PJ bepaald. Vermoedelijk willen de McCanns vookomen dat de files voor het publiek openbaar worden gemaakt. Als Madeleine Ward of Court wordt verklaard (iets wat een paar weken na de vermissing al speelde) dan valt ze onder bescherming van een rechter en die zal ten alle tijden haar beschermen en worden er geen dingen openbaar gemaakt. Dat is natuurlijk is het voordeel van de McCanns. Overigens is er verschil in wat de telegaph schrijft en de Daily Mail, typisch Clarrie-talk

"Mr Mitchell said the hearing would not involve any attempt by the McCanns to clear their names by proving they were not involved in their daughter's disappearance from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz. They remain official suspects, or arguidos, in Portugal." (Telegraph)

"Access to the files will allow the McCanns - desperate to clear their status as 'arguidos' or official suspects - to begin building a defence and demand that they are cleared." (Daily Mail)

Anyway hoe het precies allemaal zit weet ik niet echt, er wordt veel over geschreven, zelfs dat ook de tweeling Wards of Courts worden verklaard, ter voorkoming dat Social Services de kinderen in care stopt. Dat is ook misschien de reden dat opeens foto's van de tweeling werden geblurd. Wat wel de algemene mening is dat de McCanns in het nauw zitten, waarom nu de files vragen terwijl die waarschijnlijk binnenkort openbaar voor ze worden??? Ze willen dat juist voorkomen dus, want vermoedelijk staan er dingen over Madeleine in die niemand mag weten. Hád ze bv toch een aandoening nav haar oog, is Gerry McCann wel de echte vader, iets wat mogelijk uit het DNA-onderzoek is gebleken. Maarrrrrr het kan ook nog zo zijn dat dit verzoek niet van de McCanns komt maar van Social Services zelf en dat de McCanns dan niet gerechtigd zijn de files in te zien en dát de reden is van dit nieuws-artikel. Mogelijk wordt binnenkort duidelijk wát dit alles gaat betekenen, something's cooking!

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Ha ha, dit artikeltje in The Mirror doet vermoeden dat het nieuws uit de telegraph en de Daily Mail (zie post hierboven) over die Ward of Court-kwestie eigenlijk niet zo lekker ligt, sommige posters op de bekende fora schreven al dat mogelijk een journo er achter was gekomen wat er op 7 juli a.s. echt aan de orde komt, dus wat bakt The Mirror er van....
quote:
McCANNS' BID Kate and Gerry McCann will ask a High Court judge to order police to release files which they believe will help the search for their missing daughter Madeleine. The couple hope their application on July 7 will force Leicestershire Police to hand over information on hundreds of sightings. Until now Leicestershire, their local force, has claimed to be bound by a secrecy agreement with Portuguese police. But the McCanns fear many sightings of their little girl have not been followed up in the year since she went missing."
Ach ja, wáár liggen de prioriteiten bij deze krant... Overigens schreef iemand al, de McCanns kunnen ook ff googlelen wat die sightings betreft, genoeg te vinden...

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Clarence Mitchell wordt te oud, panic buttons en zo meer, als (oud) nieuws in The People:
quote:
FEARFUL MCCANNS GET PANIC ALARMS
EXCLUSIVE Security beefed up after evil threats
By Tom Latchem And Tracey Kandohla Tom.Latchem@People.Co.Uk
Maddie McCann's anguished parents have installed panic alarms at their home after a wave of vile threats. Kate and Gerry McCann got offensive and menacing letters and emails - including two that threatened to kill them.

The couple have installed a state-of-the-art security system at their £600,000 detached home. The gear, costing "several thousand" pounds, is understood to include CCTV and panic buttons in most rooms to alert cops in an emergency.

Police are examining the threats in a bid to track down the senders. One of the most disturbing messages suggested an intruder would target five-year-old Maddie's bedroom. Doctors Kate, 40, and Gerry, 3 9, have left the room unchanged since their daughter vanished from their holiday flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, nearly 14 months ago.

A source close to the couple said yesterday: "They have had threats made against them which they find both very worrying and upsetting. "Unfortunately there are some lunatics out there. There have been lots of offensive and vicious letters, with at least two talking about killing them.

"Security surrounding Kate and Gerry has been reviewed. It means they can sleep better at night. They will not let these people break them down."

There was a surge in abusive mail arriving at the McCanns' home in Rothley, Leics, after they appeared in an ITV documentary last month. The source said it is feared the couple's high-profile visit to Strasbourg last week will trigger more.

Kate and Gerry were in the French city to campaign for a Europe-wide alert system for abducted children. The strain of the couple's ordeal was obvious in Kate's gaunt features. A Leicestershire police spokesman said: "Several letters have been passed to us. We are investigating threats made against the McCanns."
Maar wat lazen wij eerder:
quote:
"Meanwhile Kate and Gerry are having panic buttons installed at home as police step down the round-the-clock vigil outside their house.The couple have had a constant police guard since arriving back from Portugal seven weeks ago." The Mirror 28/10/2007
En twee maanden later:
quote:
"Kate spends most of her time with the twins at their £500,000 house in the village where panic buttons, linked to the local police station, have been fitted after a number of threatening letters arrived in the post." Daily Mail december 2007
Loosing your touch Clarence Mitchell? Begging for some sympathy, for the true victims > the McCanns, from the public...

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  Redactie Frontpage zondag 22 juni 2008 @ 12:51:49 #125
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Leuker wordt het niet
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Suko kun je even een korte samenvatting geven? Ik vind die engelse lappen tekst wat ingewikkeld, ben wel benieuwd naar de gang van zaken.
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