Rondje Anorak, tja same old same old......quote:Madeleine McCann And Lenore Skenazy’s Son
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
NY Sun columnist Lenore Skenazy allows her nine-year-old to walk about New York on his own. In that paper, she tells us:
I trusted him to figure out that he should take the Lexington Avenue subway down, and the 34th Street crosstown bus home. If he couldn’t do that, I trusted him to ask a stranger. And then I even trusted that stranger not to think, “Gee, I was about to catch my train home, but now I think I’ll abduct this adorable child instead.” Long story short: My son got home, ecstatic with independence.
SUNDAY MAIL: “So Would You Let Your Nine-Year-Old Travel Home Solo In City Rush Hour?”
To Glasgow, where the paper is investigating is this is wrong or not so wrong?
SCOTS psychologist Ros Taylor insists Lenore did nothing wrong - and “we should all be preparing our kids to become independent adults”. You can trust the word of a sports psychologist.
“We all think about Madeleine McCann and hear of kids being locked in a basement for years. But they’re actually at greater risk of being in a car accident - yet we insist on driving them everywhere.”
McCann and Fritzl. It’s Tabloid Bingo.
And cars are dangerous. Cars are paedos on wheels with leatherette interiors. And let’s not get started on paedos in cars…
Bron Met andere woorden, de McCanns gaan na het bezoek in Strassbourg op vakantie (lekker belangrijk), is er nog geld genoeg om Metodo 3 en de advocaten te betalen, halverwege agustus worden de files vrijgegeven en zijn dan vervolgens geen formeel verdachten meer, geloven ze....quote:"Even because they still have hope of finding their daughter alive. "The Spanish agency M3 continues to work with other European investigation agencies searching for clues that may lead to Madeleine McCann", says Clarence Mitchell. And the findmadeleine.com fund is not short of money. "The fund is healthy with the money paid by the British papers as compensation. It is that money that makes it possible for us to pay the lawyers and the search teams" explains Clarence."
HOLIDAYS:
The McCann couple will go on holiday after the visit to Strasbourg. "The days and location will not
be disclosed " says the spokesman.
DOOR(?):
The McCanns believe that only in mid-August will the secrecy of justie be lifted and they will
stop being arguidos.
Maar dat al al de gedachte eigenlijk, alleen staat het nu in de pers. Fonds-geld voor top-advocaten en wat Metodo 3 ism other European investigation agencies doet is vooralsnog volstrekt onduidelijk.quote:Clarence Mitchell clearly states that Madeleine's Fund is being used to pay lawyers. This is in direct contradiction to the statement released by the board of Madeleine's Fund following the McCanns arguido status:
Statement by the Board of
Madeleine’s Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited
12 September 2007
The Fund would like to thank everyone for their kindness, support and generosity.
Madeleine's Fund was set up to:
1. Find Madeleine;
2. Support the Family; and
3. Bring the abductor or abductors to justice
and subject to that to help other missing children
With the sudden dramatic and unexpected turn of events at the weekend the directors had to consider whether legal defence costs could be paid for by the Fund.
The Board has taken advice from Bates Wells & Braithwaite London LLP and Christopher McCall QC. The Board has been advised that payment of Gerry and Kate's legal defence costs would be legally permissible subject to conditions about repayment in the event of a guilty conviction.
The directors of the Fund discussed this today. The two family directors, Brian Kennedy and John McCann withdrew from the meeting when the decision was made. Esther McVey chaired the meeting. The Fund directors realise that there is not only a legal answer and recognise the spirit which underlies the generous donations to Madeleine's Fund, which it is the directors' responsibility to steer.
For this reason the Fund directors have decided not to pay for Gerry and Kate's legal defence costs. We stress that Gerry and Kate have not asked for these costs to be paid. However, people have already called in offering their financial support. Any such fund to pay legal defence costs would have to be separately set up and administered.
At the heart of this campaign and Fund is a little girl confused, lonely and in need of her parents. This Fund's money will be focused on finding that little girl and leaving no stone unturned.
http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/184926.htmlquote:Madeleine McCann: EastEnders Reacts, Evil GP And Relocated
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
The newspapers’ hunt for Madeleine McCann has passed. The missing child now serves as a point of reference for anyone looking to add realism to a work of fiction:
PEOPLE: “I’m having a BLAST in EastEnders - EXCLUSIVE As evil GP Mad May is back to terrorise Walford actress Amanda Drew lifts lid on her return”
Eastenders’ “Mad May” is one of the most sinister psychos to grace Walford. The evil GP vanished last year after trying to steal her love rival’s baby.
A female doctor, like Kate McCann?
In an exclusive chat with The People, Amanda, 38, talks about being single, her friendship with Catherine Tate and why she was relieved when scriptwriters changed her storylines at the time Madeleine McCann went missing.
Firth things first:
Q When you left last year your storylines were rewritten because it was too similar to the Madeleine McCann disappearance.
How did you feel about it?
A As soon as Madeleine went missing I thought “no”. I was very worried and really relieved when they changed it. It was too raw a topic to be dealing with on a soap.
Because the typical soap watcher cannot differentiate between fact and a fiction?
In response to that script change Anorak was invited on the BBC’s Jeremy Vine show. The BBC produces EastEnders but no-one from the show arrived to comment on the decision to alter the script and then tell the world about it.
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “Relocated: chilling, vivid and unnervingly topical - Charles Spencer is unnerved but impressed by Relocated at the Royal Court”
The theatre’s knack of keeping its finger on the pulse of our troubled times is displayed yet again with Relocated, a deeply disconcerting new play by Anthony Neilson. I saw it on Friday night and it’s been nagging away in my head all weekend, like a half-remembered nightmare that taints your waking hours… This unsettling piece taps into a great fear of the age -…
Global warming? Terrorism? Being fat? Appearing on the Jeremy Kyle show?
…the abduction and abuse of children.
Indeed, ’tis every parents worst nightmare. The papers tell us so. But this play, isn’t it a game of Tabloid Bingo!
The play has clearly been inspired by the recently discovered activities of Herr Fritzl in that terrible basement in Austria, in which he fathered children on his own daughter and kept them in captivity.
But you also catch echoes of the Soham murders and Maxine Carr’s complicity with Ian Huntley, and of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
At the finale Shannon Matthews comes out dressed in a duvet cover and singing Climb Every Mountain in Portuguese…
Zoals ik het begrijp is dat 14 juli de files openbaar worden, ook voor het publiek is voor mij niet duidelijk, daarna begint ook de vakantie in Portugal tot half augustus en worden alleen bestaande zaken, met vastzittende verdachten, behandeld. Het onderzoek zelf gaat gewoon door. De advocaat van de McCanns Rogério Alves zegt dat pas half augustus de files openbaar worden. Waarom zou hij dat nou beweren???quote:McCanns will be able to access the evidence - 24 Horas
Maddie process becomes public in July
McCanns will be able to see all the evidence
From July onwards, the [Maddie case] process will stop being under judicial secrecy and can be consulted by all the interested parties.” The statement was made yesterday to 24Horas by Pinto Monteiro, the Republic’s General Prosecutor.
The most senior officer responsible for the investigations into the disappearance of the little British girl, on the 3rd of May 2007, from an apartment in Praia da Luz, near Lagos, in the Algarve, only failed to name the precise date: “I don’t know the exact day, but in July the process stops being covered by the judicial secrecy”. According to what 24Horas was able to establish, it will be on the 14th of July that the process becomes public – one day before the judicial holidays.
The prosecutor also insisted in adding that this fact will not effect the investigations. “We won’t rest until the child is found. The fact that the judicial secrecy is lifted has nothing to do with the development of the investigations”, he stated, adding: “Until there is, either from the Public Ministry or from the judicial magistracy, a decision towards an accusation or an archiving, the process will continue, and so will the mission that has been given to the Polícia Judiciária, to clarify the case”.
In practical terms it will be August
Meanwhile, Rogério Alves, the McCanns’ lawyer, does not hide his pessimism: “I’m not going to comment on the case, but the information that we have is that we will only have access to the process in August.”
He may be correct, given the fact that the judicial holidays begin on the 15th of July and end one month later. During that period, the courts work only with shift judges. Which means that only the priority processes, with detained arguidos, will be forwarded.
“The Maddie case is not a priority. There are no detained persons. There are indices of a crime of neglect and child abandonment, but that accusation can wait”, said a senior officer at the Court in Portimão, where Maddie’s disappearance is being investigated.
Deadlines have run out
The process about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is being run at the Criminal Court in Portimão. The judicial secrecy on the case expires, according to what 24Horas was able to establish, on the 14th of July, and according to the new legislation, cannot be extended any further, given the fact that such has already happened twice – 90 days each – at the request of prosecutor Magalhães e Menezes. He is one of the persons that are responsible for the investigation, which is being carried out by the PJ.
Judicial authorities that were heard by 24Horas admit that with the deadlines on the judicial secrecy running out, the general prosecutor in Évora, Luís Bilro Verão, who was nominated to direct the process, has nothing solid in his hands that will allow for the child to be traced…
Idd, wat een gedoe om de tere hartjes van de ouders, laat iedereen nu eens zoveel inkt verspillen aan het oproepen naar mensen die eventueel iets gezien hebben, ik vind het nog steeds zo raar dat ze gewoon van de aardbodem is verdwenen, dat kan toch bijna niet zo zijn zou je denken.quote:Op dinsdag 17 juni 2008 09:57 schreef Suko het volgende:
Mogguh Kahaarin en de rest.Ik heb nota bene jarenlang Eastenders gekeken maar sinds vorig jaar niet meer, qua saai, dus heb ik die kennelijk maffe May gemist.
Toch een beetje zorgelijk, iedereen schiet in een soort McCann-mode als het ook maar enigszins gaat over gekte, kids, dokters, kan eigenlijk niet schelen wát, lijkt wel of bijna alles naar Madeleine leidt...komische zeker maar ook ietwat tragisch. Anyway, 24 Horas komt met een artikel, vertaald door Joana Morais:
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Vanaf 14 juli zijn de stukken volgens mij opvraagbaar voor de McCanns/hun advocaat, als de PJ dan vervelend wil doen dan raakt die aanvraag ook een half jaar "kwijt".quote:Zoals ik het begrijp is dat 14 juli de files openbaar worden, ook voor het publiek is voor mij niet duidelijk, daarna begint ook de vakantie in Portugal tot half augustus en worden alleen bestaande zaken, met vastzittende verdachten, behandeld. Het onderzoek zelf gaat gewoon door. De advocaat van de McCanns Rogério Alves zegt dat pas half augustus de files openbaar worden. Waarom zou hij dat nou beweren???
Een aanklacht komt er, dat kan door al dat circus bijna niet anders, nu alleen afwachten wat er uit komt.quote:Zo, zal mij benieuwen óf er een aanklacht komt en indien ja, wat de inhoud zal zijn. Ook ben ik benieuwd wáár de McCanns op 14 juli verblijven. Of dat er tegen die tijd een enorme publiciteit van het een of ander in de pers komt (om eventueel slecht nieuws te overschaduwen, iets wat ze wel vaker flikken) over dat volstrekt overbodige Amber Alert systeem of zo. Nou al staan de kranten er vol van. Daar hebben Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis nog een interessant aanvullend artikel over: European missing children alert system being developed since 2006 + Just ignorance?
quote:Madeleine McCann’s parents today held a series of meetings with MEPs in Strasbourg in a renewed effort to secure backing for a Europe-wide child abduction alert system.
Gerry and Kate McCann need 393 signatures to ensure the written declaration proposal is sent to the EU President and published.
So far they have obtained 225 signatures, leaving them another 168 to collect before the plenary session closes on July 24.
Among those the couple were due to lobby were members of the UK Independence Party (UKIP).
The Euro-sceptic party refuses to sign declarations on a point of principle, but Mr and Mrs McCann hope it will make an exception in their case.
Speaking after their arrival at the parliament building, Mr McCann said: "This is an important issue and Europe needs to work together. We want to get as many signatures as possible but there's limited time left."
Ik heb inmiddels ook begrepen dat de stukken alleen voor de betrokkenen zijn in te zien, en ja wie weet wordt niet alles vrijgegeven....de PJ is echt niet achterlijk en indeed, desnoods maar ff kwijt raken....quote:Op dinsdag 17 juni 2008 17:24 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
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Idd, wat een gedoe om de tere hartjes van de ouders, laat iedereen nu eens zoveel inkt verspillen aan het oproepen naar mensen die eventueel iets gezien hebben, ik vind het nog steeds zo raar dat ze gewoon van de aardbodem is verdwenen, dat kan toch bijna niet zo zijn zou je denken.
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Vanaf 14 juli zijn de stukken volgens mij opvraagbaar voor de McCanns/hun advocaat, als de PJ dan vervelend wil doen dan raakt die aanvraag ook een half jaar "kwijt".![]()
Ik denk dat de PJ de stukken niet openbaar wil maken en de McCanns ook pas na rijp beraad en selectie van de stukken die ze vrij wensen te geven, schone konte Suko, schone konten!![]()
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Een aanklacht komt er, dat kan door al dat circus bijna niet anders, nu alleen afwachten wat er uit komt.
Over dat Amber alert:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/n(...)stem-89520-20610859/
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Het gaat dus niet zo goed met de handtekeningen......![]()
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Dat antwoord gaven ze ook al onlangs in het programma Breakfast van de BBC, té pijnlijk zeker?!quote:Found this on Portugal Diario, http://diario.iol.pt/soci(...)401-4071.html,Google translation - faites attention! "McCann react badly to questions"
Parents of Madeleine liked not to be questioned about the fact that they left the girl alone
The parents of Madeleine McCann reacted badly, this Tuesday in Strasbourg, on the issues that have left his daughter alone on the night of the disappearance, claiming that the "real issue" is the abduction, the Lusa news.
Kate and Gerry McCann participated in a press conference in the European Parliament (EP) to promote a petition launched two months ago in Brussels with a view to establishing, at Community level, a system of alert for missing children.
When questioned about the fact that on the night in which disappeared in May last year, the Algarve, Madeleine McCann find itself alone in the apartment, the child's parents British - made defendants in Portugal - said to be tired of that question, saying that people should be focusing on the crime committed.
"Do not abandoned or neglected the Madeleine. Someone entered the apartment and took a child. That is the question. Frankly(?) this matter is really very boring," said Gerry McCann. Kate McCann also said that "the real issue is that a child was kidnapped and there is a criminal who still goes out there."
"We must concentrate on the real issue. No aid is to continue to raise this issue. Nothing has changed in the last 14 months and not understand that once again we talk about it," he said.
Maar dan blijft natuurlijk de vraag, niet alleen abandon or neglect van Madeleine, maar ook zeker dat door deze houding Madeleine niet meer leeft. Het onderzoek omvat derhalve nog steeds: In the judgement from the Tribunal da Relação de Évora, by Judge Fernando Ribeiro Cardoso on 29 April, it was revealed that the McCanns were being investigated for allegedly neglecting their daughter and that the police inquiry covered the possibilities of homicide, abandonment, concealment of a corpse and abduction. <<< Take note Gerry McCann.quote:Someone went into an apartment and stole a child.
Op de site van Nigel staat ook een filmpje, ik kan dat niet zien, misschien anderen wel...quote:Madeleine's Mum On Alert Campaign, 17 June 2008
Jun 17, 2008
Madeleine McCann's parents have made a new attempt to win support for their Europe-wide alert system for abducted children. The missing girl's mother Kate McCann spoke about whether or not the scheme would have helped find Madeleine.
00:00:22
Transcript:
Kate McCann: "I believe it would have given us a greater chance. Errm... I think the awareness early on in the critical hours would have been greater and hence I think there would have been more help from the public... errm, at that crucial time and potentially Madeleine may have been retrieved. We'll never know but there is a possibility, yes."
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A reminder of the help the public gave, whilst Kate remained in the McCanns apartment ringing relatives and friends, and praying:
British girl missing on Algarve holiday Independent
Friday, 4 May 2007
Holidaymakers and police were desperately searching today for a young British girl who went missing while on holiday in Portugal.
Three-year-old Madeleine McCann vanished from her parents' rented apartment in the Algarve last night as they dined nearby.
Tourists joined resort staff in a "frantic" all-night search for the little girl, who was described by a neighbour as "happy-go-lucky" and idolised by her "protective" parents, Gerry and Kate.
Today the manager at the Ocean Club - a holiday resort run by British travel firm Mark Warner in the south west seaside village of Praia Da Luz - said the couple, both doctors from Leicester, were "distraught".
John Hill said: "It was a very emotional and very frantic night and everyone did a fantastic job of getting involved and trying to search the area.
"As you can imagine, Madeleine's parents are distraught and not doing very well at all."
Around 60 staff and guests at the purpose-built complex searched until 4.30am while police notified border police, Spanish police and airports.
Sniffer dogs were brought in by Portuguese detectives to comb the area but as the hours went by, hopes that Madeleine merely wandered off were fading.
The first interview with Jane Hill from the BBC - 25 May 2007, Kate admits never actually 'physically searching' for Madeleine
Jane Hill: "I met people who didn't go to work for more than a week because everyday they were down on the beach, searching the streets. Did you, as a mother Kate, just sometimes think 'I've got to go and be out there with them. I want to go and just physically look as well."
Kate: (Pause) I mean, I did. Errm... (Long Pause) Errm, we'd been working really hard really. Apart... I mean, the first 48 hours, as Gerry said, are incredibly difficult and we were almost non-functioning, I'd say, errm, but after that you get strength from somewhere. We've certainly had loads of support and that's given us strength and its been able to make us focus really so we have actually, in our own way, it might not be physically searching but we've been working really hard and doing absolutely everything we can really to get Madeleine back."
quote:Come on Herald - let's see some serious reporting on this case. Ask the real questions. Quote | Report this postPosted by: Murray, UK on 12:49am today
Have to agree with JamesM, there is obviously a huge, as yet, untold story here. Are the Herald brave enough to really investigate it?You may be the last newspaper in Britain with the courage to do so. I hope so anyway.
Variant op de foto...gezien op het 3arguidoforum, kon het even niet laten.quote:
Kate and Gerry at the European Parliament, to speak about missing children
The McCanns were in Strasbourg yesterday to take care of a petition and ended up reacting, in an irritated manner, to questions from the journalists about the evening of the 3rd of May 2007
McCanns lose their calm
Kate and Gerry were in Strasbourg yesterday, where they convinced 225 MEPs to sign the petition for the creation of an European alert system for missing children. The problem, for the McCanns, was the press conference that they gave in the late afternoon. The journalists’ favourite dish was not the petition, but rather the couple’s behaviour on the evening of the 3rd of May 2007, when Madeleine disappeared in Praia da Luz, Algarve.
One of the questions was why they left their daughter alone on the fateful night. The McCanns reacted with a bad temper. The “real issue”, they underlined, is the abduction. “We did not abandon or neglect Madeleine. Someone entered the apartment and took a child. That is the issue. To go over that matter is very boring”, Gerry McCann said. Kate supported her husband, with the same irritation: “The real issue is that a child was abducted and there is a criminal who is still out there”.
Gerry insisted. “We need to focus on the real issue. Continuously raising that question is unhelpful. Nothing has changed over the last 14 months and I don’t understand why we are talking about that, again”.
The couple only calmed down when they were allowed to speak again about the issue that was on their agenda: the petition to create a European alert system for missing children. Kate and Gerry thanked the 225 MEPs that have already signed the petition, and exhorted others to do it.
They remembered that 393 signatures are necessary, half of the hemicycle, until the end of July, in order for the text to be sent to the European Commission and for the communitarian executive to present a proposal in that sense to the Council. In Brussels’ hallways, there are some who accuse the McCanns of a “media maneuver” with this initiative.
“What is the use of this petition? There is already a European law proposal for the creation of such an alert system. It is on its way to being approved in Strasbourg, and then to be taken before the European Commission. That proposal, which has been worked upon for quite some time, will then have to be approved by each member state”, a source in Brussels criticized.
“Media maneuver”
The same source remembered that the McCanns have “associated themselves to an initiative that belongs to the European Commission, in a media maneuver”. One of the main promoters of that initiative was Margarida Sousa Uva, the wife of the president of the European Union, Durão Barroso.
In March, Sousa Uva alerted in Brussels to the “lack of political will” within the 27 to create an effective alert system. One month later, in April, the McCanns met with a group of MEPs that wrote the text about the European alert. It was then that they started speaking about the petition.
Numbers
14 of July is the date from which the Maddie process ceases to be covered by the judicial secrecy. The McCanns heard about that date through 24Horas, yesterday.
4 is the number of European Union member states that have an alert system: Germany, France, Greece and the United Kingdom. The proposal intends to widen it on 27.
Het muggenziften, vingerwijzen en kontenpoetsen is weer begonnen, wordt vervolgd dus....quote:Madeleine McCann: Speculation As Fact, Newspapers Speak With One Voice And OAP Dead
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
The newspapers continue to rely on press releases and Gerry McCann’s blog for their investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
THE SUN: “Maddie police files to open”
KATE and Gerry McCann will soon have access to police files covering the search for missing daughter Maddie
This is presented as a fact.
Says the McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell: “We’ve heard nothing officially, but if it’s true judicial secrecy has been lifted we welcome it.”
So how does the Sun know about the police files?
THE STAR: “MADDIE COPS TO SHOW MCCANNS EVIDENCE”
Gerry and Kate McCann will be given full access to confidential case files, Portugal’s top law officer revealed yesterday.
Portugal’s top legal eagle told them? But how does the Star know?
DAILY MAIL: “MCCANNS TO FINALLY FIND OUT ‘EVIDENCE’ MADELEINE POLICE HAVE AGAINST THEM”
Attorney general Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro told daily newspaper 24 Horas: “From July, the (Madeleine) case will cease to be covered by judicial secrecy, and will be available to consultation by all parties involved. I do not know which date, but in July the case ceases to be covered by judicial secrecy.”
That’s right – this latest McCann story is rooted in an opinion voiced in a Portuguese newspaper.
Says the Mail: “24 Horas speculated the judicial secrecy will end on July 14 - more than 10 months after the couple were named suspects.”
Speculated? But what of the facts? Well, here they are:
The McCanns, both 40-year-old doctors from Rothley, Leics, were made official suspects last September but have never been arrested or charged and vigorously deny any wrongdoing.
Such are the facts.
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “Madeleine McCann: evidence against parents to be revealed
Facts:
The McCanns, both 40-year-old doctors from Rothley, Leics, were made official suspects last September but have never been arrested or charged and vigorously deny any wrongdoing.
Is the Telegraph reading the Mail, or vice versa?
THE TIMES: Kate and Gerry McCann to be told why police made them suspects in disappearance of Maddy
The announcement came as Mr and Mrs McCann embarked on a series of meetings with MEPs in Strasbourg in a renewed effort to secure backing for a Europe-wide child abduction alert system.
The couple have until July 24 - the close of the plenary session - to collect the signatures needed to ensure that their proposal, in the form of a written declaration, is sent to the EU President and published.
They have chalked up 225 signatures so far, leaving them another 168 to collect.
Mr McCann said: “This is an important issue and Europe needs to work together. We want to get as many signatures as possible but there’s limited time left.”
DAILY RECORD: “Dolina Cops Find Grave In Woods”
POLICE searching for missing OAP Dolina Maclean yesterday found a shallow grave in woods. The grim discovery was made in a dense pine forest near the village of Dunning in Perthshire.
Forensic experts, including officers who worked on the Madeleine McCann and Moira Jones cases, spent the day combing the area for evidence.
Madeleine McCann – Press f9 for an easy reference to any story…
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------quote:“EU Vice-President Jacques Barrot REJECTS McCann's project of a European Amber alert”, was the headline. It doesn't say that Barroso and Barrot are against the idea of a rapid response alert, just that they don't support the McCann's “recent” idea, launched with the help of five Members of European Parliament. What Barrot said is very clear, I think: The EU will proceed with it's own legislative process of setting up a missing children alert system, following the formal decisions already taken, since 2006 (among others, a legal decision approved in the beginning of this year by the European Parliament). The EU Commission has it's own project of a rapid response scheme, since 2006. And that is the project that EU and Barrot are willing to set up - not the McCann's inspired proposal of doing something vague and similar as the USA have done, with the Amber Alert. Check what Carlos Coelho, a Portuguese MEP from PSD said: "The McCann couple launched a public relations campaign, trying to "seize" a policy that is already being enforced..." (and watch the exasperation of Kate and Gerry McCann, when questioned by journalists about the fact they left three children alone...)
Och dat komt uit de koker van CM, nu kan hij weer zielig lopen doen en zijn clienten afschilderen als engeltje eerste klas.quote:Op woensdag 18 juni 2008 23:49 schreef Suko het volgende:
Nog even iets opmerkelijks op het 3arguidoforum gelezen, het valt al op dat The Mirror mogelijk een ommezwaai maakt tav de McCanns. Sobere berichtgeving e.d. En nu dit: "With over 2 dozen pages on which to accommodate it's report entitled 'McCanns to see cops' Maddy files' the Mirror sees fit to place it slap bang adjacent to a report on an arrest for murder after 9 years, within which is the paragraph: 'Detectives also found a note that appeared to list ways of disposing a body. It read:"1) By sea 2) Acid 3) Landfill 4) Burning." Too much of a coincidence it would appear. Simply astounding."
En aangezien een krant met de opmaak van een pagina niets aan het toeval overlaat, klik op de foto voor de details, kijk aan de rechterkant.![]()
Komen we misschien wéér bij
Rondje Anorak: http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/185038.htmlquote:Madeleine McCann: Marie Claire’s Web Traffic And Eoin Ryan Knows
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
Marie Claire: “McCanns finally see Madeleine files”
Or not. Kate and Gerry McCann have not seen the police files on them. But no matter – the headline should get some good web traffic for the women’s glossy…
HERALD (Ireland): “McCanns are innocent says Ryan”
It’s Ireland top detective MEP Eoin Ryan.
The Fianna Fail politician was speaking in the wake of a private meeting with Kate and Gerry McCann in Strasbourg.
Referring to previous allegations, he said: “I don’t think anyone believes that.”
He said those allegations have been “poo-pooed”.
Maybe he’s seen the police files..?
Denk 't niet Kahaarin, mogguh trouwens, want dat artikel naast die van de McCanns gaat over iets anders maar betreft wel hoe mogelijk een body is 'kwijt' gemaakt en dát is niet toevallig naast de McCanns geplaatst. Sowieso is de stemming in de kranten aan het veranderen, de kritische commentaren in bv Sky News staan er nog steeds en ook in de Schotse krant The Herald naast de eerdere twee die ik eerder plaatste. Verder weinig nieuws behalve dat mogelijk de periode wordt verlengd om de handtekeningen van nog meer MP's te verkrijgen ivm dat Amber Alert, zie > sosmaddie.be + Liverpool Daily Post, of benne dat weer Clarrie-sprookjes...quote:Op donderdag 19 juni 2008 11:14 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
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Rondje Anorak: http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/185038.html
quote:To activate the AMBER Alert Notification Plan in Illinois, law enforcement agencies must ensure the following criteria
are met:
1. Law enforcement must confirm a child has been abducted.
2. The child must be under the age of 16 or have a proven mental or physical disability.
3. Law enforcement must believe the child is in danger of serious bodily harm or death.
4. There is enough descriptive information about the child, abductor, and/or suspect’s vehicle to believe an immediate broadcast alert will help.
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In 1996, nine-year-old Amber Hagerman was abducted while playing near her home in Arlington, Texas, and later found murdered. In response to community concern, the Texas Association of Radio Managers, with the assistance of Texas’ local area law enforcement, created the first AMBER Plan. All fifty states now have similar plans.
The Illinois AMBER Alert Notification Plan is a voluntary partnership between law enforcement agencies, broadcasters, and the National Weather Service to activate an urgent bulletin in the most serious child abduction cases. This is the same concept used during severe weather emergencies. The goal of the AMBER Alert is to instantly galvanize the entire community to assist in the search for and safe return of the child.
http://www.express.co.uk/(...)up-for-McCann-schemequote:MORE MEPS SIGN UP FOR MCCANN SCHEME
Kate and Gerry McCann "encouraged" by child alert system support
Friday June 20,2008
More MEPs have signed up to a campaign by the parents of Madeleine McCann for a Europe-wide child abduction alert scheme.
Gerry and Kate McCann visited the European Parliament in Strasbourg on Tuesday needing another 182 signatures for their proposal to be considered by commissioners.
They are now just 85 short of the number needed following a day-long visit that included a series of meetings with leading MEPs.
And the extra names collected in the past 24 hours, giving them 308 in total, are set to buy them more time.
The McCanns, from Rothley in Leicestershire, travelled to Strasbourg needing a total of 393 signatures by July 24 - the end of the current plenary session - for their written declaration to be published and sent to the European Commission president.
But the couple have since been told that if they pass the 300 mark they will be given until the end of the September plenary to get the support they need.
Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, said: "Kate and Gerry McCann are very pleased with the support of MEPs since their visit. Clearly 85 more MEPs need to be convinced and that work will be continuing very much behind the scenes.
"Kate and Gerry are very hopeful that they can achieve those signatures before the deadline of July 24."
A declaration signed by a majority of MEPs would carry no legal weight but it would indicate a political will to see such a scheme implemented.
The McCanns launched their drive for the US-style Amber Alert in Brussels in April. Madeleine went missing from her family's holiday apartment, in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3 last year.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/s(...)e/article1319195.ecequote:Maddie alert wins backing
MORE MEPs signed up to a campaign by the parents of Madeleine McCann for a Europe-wide child abduction alert scheme, the couple’s spokesman said today.
Gerry and Kate McCann visited the European Parliament in Strasbourg on Tuesday needing another 182 signatures for their proposal to be considered by commissioners.
Today, they are just 85 short of the number needed following a day-long visit that included a series of meetings with leading MEPs.
And the extra names collected in the past 24 hours, giving them 308 in total, are set to buy them more time.
The McCanns, from Rothley in Leicestershire, travelled to Strasbourg needing a total of 393 signatures by July 24 - the end of the current plenary session - for their written declaration to be published and sent to the European Commission president.
Declaration
But the couple have since been told that if they pass the 300 mark they will be given until the end of the September plenary to get the support they need.
Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesman, said: “Kate and Gerry McCann are very pleased with the support of MEPs since their visit.
“Clearly 85 more MEPs need to be convinced and that work will be continuing very much behind the scenes.
“Kate and Gerry are very hopeful that they can achieve those signatures before the deadline of July 24.”
A declaration signed by a majority of MEPs would carry no legal weight but it would indicate a political will to see such a scheme implemented.
The McCanns launched their drive for the US-style Amber Alert in Brussels in April.
Madeleine went missing from her family’s holiday apartment, in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3 last year.
The McCanns believe a European version of Amber Alert - which notifies the public via media across the US when police confirm a child has been abducted - would have helped the search for their daughter, then aged three, in the crucial hours after her disappearance.
MEPs sponsoring the declaration include European Parliament Vice-President Edward McMillan-Scott, Glenys Kinnock and Evelyne Gebhardt.
Nou vind ik alles wat met wetgeving te maken heeft al lastig te begrijpen, maar sommige suggereren dat dit meer om de tweeling gaat (social services qua wat gaan we doen met die 2 als er een aanklacht komt?) dan om het zoeken naar Madeleine en namens haar files te bemachtigen. Mogelijk moet ik begrijpen dat Madeleine onder curatele wordt geplaatst, iets wat de McCanns al vorig jaar zomer hadden ingezet op advies van hun advocaten. En dat die onderzoeks-documenten dan in handen worden gegeven van Metodo 3 is helemaal grof. Alleen maar om nog meer getuigen te intimideren? Het gerechtshof zal daar echt niet intrappen. Opmerkelijk ook dat ze in de clinch gaan met de Leicestershire politie, wat steekt hier nou weer achter... behalve dat de PJ in wezen eigenaar is van de files en derhalve de Portigese wet daarop van kracht is, ook in de UK.quote:Madeleine McCann: parents' court bid for information
by Gordon Rayner, Chief Reporter
Last Updated: 7:26PM BST 20/06/2008
Kate and Gerry McCann are to ask a High Court judge to order the release of police documents which they hope will kick-start the search for their missing daughter Madeleine, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.
The McCanns hope their application to Mrs Justice Hogg will result in Leicestershire Police opening their files on scores of reported sightings of Madeleine, most of which have been passed on to them by police in Portugal, where the four-year-old disappeared in May last year.
Until now police in Leicestershire, the McCanns' home county, have refused the couple's requests for information about sightings, saying they are bound by the terms of an agreement with Portuguese police. But Mr and Mrs McCann, who retain the services of a Spanish-based detective agency, are anxious to make sure that every possible lead has been checked out, which they believe the Portuguese police, whose investigation is gradually being wound down, may not be able to do.
The Telegraph can also disclose that Madeleine was made a ward of court last summer at the request of the McCanns, to empower judges to act in her best interests in any legal dispute such as the case which is about to be heard. Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesman, said: “I can state that on the instigation of Gerry and Kate McCann Madeleine is a ward of the High Court of England and Wales.
“An application has been made on Madeleine’s behalf by her parents for disclosure of certain documents. The hearing is currently scheduled for July 7 in the High Court in London. “It has been the stated intention of Gerry and Kate McCann to leave no stone unturned in doing everything necessary to search for their daughter, as would any parent.
“This application is just part of their search for Madeleine.” Madeleine’s status as a ward of court has never been disclosed by her parents, who quietly made a wardship application in the High Court just weeks after she went missing.
The couple’s legal team had advised them to ask for Madeleine to be made a ward of court because wardship status gives the courts certain statutory powers to act on her behalf in legal disputes such as the one which has arisen with Leicestershire police.
They still believe their daughter is alive and hope the police files may contain information which could yet lead to a breakthrough. The case is listed to be heard in open court on July 7 in the Family Division of the High Court in London, and is expected to be contested by Leicestershire Police, according to legal sources.
Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, said: "Kate and Gerry have always said that they will do whatever is necessary to find Madeleine and that they will leave no stone unturned in their search for their daughter. "They will take whatever legal steps are necessary if there is information out there that can assist their private investigation into finding Madeleine. Beyond that I cannot make any comment."
Mr Mitchell said the hearing would not involve any attempt by the McCanns to clear their names by proving they were not involved in their daughter's disappearance from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz. They remain official suspects, or arguidos, in Portugal. In recent months the couple have become increasingly frustrated at the slow progress of the Portuguese investigation, and they suspect that many possible sightings of Madeleine have not been followed up at all.
If they are given access to the police files on reported sightings, each one will be looked into by private investigators retained by the couple. For the past year the McCanns have employed Metodo 3, a Barcelona-based detective agency, to carry out an investigation in parallel with the Portuguese police inquiry.
The agency has checked out sightings as far afield as North Africa and South America – all of which have proved to be false – using either its own staff or affiliated firms, which it says it can do far more quickly than the police.
In one instance earlier this year, the agency ruled out a sighting of Madeleine in Chile within three hours of receiving a tip-off, by employing local investigators to track down the girl concerned. The agency argues that police would have taken days to achieve a similar result because they would have been hampered by bureaucracy and official procedure.
Earlier this week Portugal's Attorney General suggested that police files may be opened up at the end of July, but the McCanns fear his comments may prove to be another false dawn.
Their case is being heard in the Family Division because it involves the welfare of a child. Mrs Justice Hogg, a specialist in child welfare cases, is the sister of former cabinet minister Douglas Hogg and the daughter of former Lord Chancellor Lord Hailsham.
Ach ja, wáár liggen de prioriteiten bij deze krant...quote:McCANNS' BID Kate and Gerry McCann will ask a High Court judge to order police to release files which they believe will help the search for their missing daughter Madeleine. The couple hope their application on July 7 will force Leicestershire Police to hand over information on hundreds of sightings. Until now Leicestershire, their local force, has claimed to be bound by a secrecy agreement with Portuguese police. But the McCanns fear many sightings of their little girl have not been followed up in the year since she went missing."
Maar wat lazen wij eerder:quote:FEARFUL MCCANNS GET PANIC ALARMS
EXCLUSIVE Security beefed up after evil threats
By Tom Latchem And Tracey Kandohla Tom.Latchem@People.Co.Uk
Maddie McCann's anguished parents have installed panic alarms at their home after a wave of vile threats. Kate and Gerry McCann got offensive and menacing letters and emails - including two that threatened to kill them.
The couple have installed a state-of-the-art security system at their £600,000 detached home. The gear, costing "several thousand" pounds, is understood to include CCTV and panic buttons in most rooms to alert cops in an emergency.
Police are examining the threats in a bid to track down the senders. One of the most disturbing messages suggested an intruder would target five-year-old Maddie's bedroom. Doctors Kate, 40, and Gerry, 3 9, have left the room unchanged since their daughter vanished from their holiday flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, nearly 14 months ago.
A source close to the couple said yesterday: "They have had threats made against them which they find both very worrying and upsetting. "Unfortunately there are some lunatics out there. There have been lots of offensive and vicious letters, with at least two talking about killing them.
"Security surrounding Kate and Gerry has been reviewed. It means they can sleep better at night. They will not let these people break them down."
There was a surge in abusive mail arriving at the McCanns' home in Rothley, Leics, after they appeared in an ITV documentary last month. The source said it is feared the couple's high-profile visit to Strasbourg last week will trigger more.
Kate and Gerry were in the French city to campaign for a Europe-wide alert system for abducted children. The strain of the couple's ordeal was obvious in Kate's gaunt features. A Leicestershire police spokesman said: "Several letters have been passed to us. We are investigating threats made against the McCanns."
En twee maanden later:quote:"Meanwhile Kate and Gerry are having panic buttons installed at home as police step down the round-the-clock vigil outside their house.The couple have had a constant police guard since arriving back from Portugal seven weeks ago." The Mirror 28/10/2007
Loosing your touch Clarence Mitchell? Begging for some sympathy, for the true victims > the McCanns, from the public...quote:"Kate spends most of her time with the twins at their £500,000 house in the village where panic buttons, linked to the local police station, have been fitted after a number of threatening letters arrived in the post." Daily Mail december 2007
No worries.quote:
Hmm maar mogen ze kinderen wel meenemen naar het buitenland als ze onder toezicht staan of is dat niet wat er bedoeld wordt met Ward of the Court?quote:Op zondag 22 juni 2008 13:44 schreef Suko het volgende:
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No worries.Overigens kan dat verhaal in de People mogelijk ook betekenen dat ze toch een runner doen, met als smoes dat ze bang zijn, naar een land zonder uitleveringsverdrag met Portugal of de UK. Nee toch....?!
Volgens posters op het 3arguidoforum moet daar idd toestemming voor worden gevraagd, áls het zo is dat de tweeling ook Ward of Court worden verklaard. Maar zoals deze poster al zegt over deze wettelijke bepalingen: "Sometimes, it's almost an insult to one's intelligence."quote:Op zondag 22 juni 2008 22:42 schreef Tmaatje het volgende:
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Hmm maar mogen ze kinderen wel meenemen naar het buitenland als ze onder toezicht staan of is dat niet wat er bedoeld wordt met Ward of the Court?
Ik dacht inderdaad aan termen van onder curatele stellen maar dat kunnen ouders hier ook zelf doen, als hun kind geestelijk en/of lichamelijk niet in staat is zelf beslissingen te nemen. Maar ook kan Jeugdzorg (in de UK Social Services) die procedure opstarten, of zoiets vergelijkbaar is in de UK en met name dan over een kind wat (voor nu althans) 'vermist' is...? Daar hebben die advocaten van de McCanns vast goed over nagedacht wat voor hen de voordelen hiervan kunnen zijn. In ieder geval de geheimhouding (ter bescherming) van/over het betreffende kind áls de bevoegdheid bij de rechtbank komt te liggen, how clever. Afijn, tot zover, bedtijd.quote:Op zondag 22 juni 2008 23:29 schreef Tmaatje het volgende:
Suko, ik weet dat hier in Nederland ook derden een ondertoezichtsstelling kunnen aanvragen als bewezen is dat het kind met de "zedelijke ondergang"bedreigt wordt..Misschien is dat in dit geval ook wel gebeurt.
Goedemorgen, sorry druk weekeinde gehad....quote:Op maandag 23 juni 2008 00:04 schreef Suko het volgende:
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Ik dacht inderdaad aan termen van onder curatele stellen maar dat kunnen ouders hier ook zelf doen, als hun kind geestelijk en/of lichamelijk niet in staat is zelf beslissingen te nemen. Maar ook kan Jeugdzorg (in de UK Social Services) die procedure opstarten, of zoiets vergelijkbaar is in de UK en met name dan over een kind wat (voor nu althans) 'vermist' is...? Daar hebben die advocaten van de McCanns vast goed over nagedacht wat voor hen de voordelen hiervan kunnen zijn. In ieder geval de geheimhouding (ter bescherming) van/over het betreffende kind áls de bevoegdheid bij de rechtbank komt te liggen, how clever. Afijn, tot zover, bedtijd.![]()
'The rights' van de McCanns zijn nog niet 'terminated' maar als dat wel gebeurt, door een veroordeling zijn ze immers niet in staat om voor de tweeling te zorgen, dan is er alvast een 'guardian'.quote:A ward of the court is someone under the protection of the courts. The ward of the court may have a guardian appointed by the court. The legal guardian is not personally liable for the ward's expenses and is not liable to third parties for the ward's debts.
Although a ward of the court can have a legal guardian, having a legal guardian does not automatically make the child a ward of the court. A legal guardian can be appointed by parental consent through a power of attorney. A legal guardian must have been appointed by the court and the parent's rights terminated for the child to be a ward of the court. When a guardian is appointed by the court and the parent's rights terminated, the parent no longer has the authority to revoke the guardianship.
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/?search=madeleine&searchheadlines=1quote:Madeleine McCann's parents install panic alarms
Jun 23 2008 Caroline Innes, Liverpool Echo
MADELEINE McCann’s parents have installed panic alarms at their home after receiving threats.
Liverpool-born Kate McCann and husband Gerry are understood to have received offensive and menacing letters and emails, including two that threatened to kill them.
The couple have installed a state-of-the-art the security system at their £600,000 detached home in Rothley, Leicestershire.
The equipment, costing several thousand pounds, is understood to include CCTV and panic buttons in most rooms to alert police in an emergency.
Police are examining the threats to try to track down the senders. One of the most disturbing messages suggested an intruder would target five-year-old Madeleine’s bedroom.
Doctors Kate, 40, and Gerry, 39, have left the room unchanged since their daughter vanished from their holiday flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, nearly 14 months ago.
A source close to the couple said yesterday: “They have had threats made against them which they find both very worrying and upsetting.
“Unfortunately there are some lunatics out there. There have been lots of offensive and vicious letters, with at least two talking about killing them.
“Security surrounding Kate and Gerry has been reviewed.
“It means they can sleep better at night. They will not let these people break them down.”
There was a surge in abusive mail arriving at the McCanns’ home , after they appeared in an ITV documentary last month.
The source said it is feared the couple’s high-profile visit to Strasbourg last week will trigger more.
Former Notre Dame high school pupil Kate and Gerry were in the French city to campaign for a Europe- wide alert system for abducted children.
A Leicestershire police spokesman said: “Several letters have been passed to us.
“We are investigating threats made against the McCanns.”
Middag Kahaarin en overigen.quote:Op maandag 23 juni 2008 11:46 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Volgens mij krijgen ze op het moment te weinig aandacht, ik kan me namelijk herinneren dat ze al eerder over dit soort mails hebben bericht, dat er nu in de pers moet dat ze een panic alert hebben geinstalleerd doet mij vermoeden dat er iets aan zit te komen uit Portugal, noem mij achterdochtig/paranoide maar dat is wat me al vaker is opgevallen, op het moment dat de McConns een boel stof doen opwaaien moet er iets onder het kleed.![]()
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http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/?search=madeleine&searchheadlines=1
Dit lijkt me echt een gevalletje van proactief reageren want anders komen we enkel negatief in het nieuws, schone achterwerken dus wederom.
IMO zijn ze echt bang voor wat er bekend wordt gemaakt over Madeleine en mogelijk dat door deze constructie zulks deels geheim blijft ter bescherming van Madeleine (althans, zo is de wet bedoelt maar wij weten wel beter waarom de McCanns dat willen) en misschien ook de tweeling, letterlijk is niet duidelijk wát er precies op 7 juli wordt besproken/beslist. Zeker is dat de McCanns deze files zelf eerder willen hebben met de smoes dat genoemde sightings mogelijk niet goed zijn onderzocht, bull! Ongelofelijk blijft het dat vlak na de vermissing, de Daily Mail schrijft een paar weken, dat Madeleine toen al Ward of Court werd verklaard, daarover werd niets bekend gemaakt, hoe vooruit kun je denken...quote:Madeleine under judicial supervision of the Court "The documents do not find Madeleine, but the disclosure of their content is posing a serious risk the outcome of the investigation," said a British officer in Enderby stressing that "in these documents it yal'identité of all witnesses heard the United Kingdom and its statements, as well as the results of expertise made by the FSS (Forensic Science Service). Their premature revelation is seriously concerned opportunities outcome of the investigation. " According to the spokesman for McCann, Clarence Mitchell, the request was made by Kate and Gerry McCann acting "on behalf of Madeleine" to "disclosure of certain documents."
Arriving in the United Kingdom in September, after their hasty departure of Portugal, Kate and Gerry McCann saw Madeleine be placed under judicial supervision of the Supreme Court of England and Wales - statute intended to protect the interests of Child despite his disappearance.
According to Clarence Mitchell, former head of the Unit for media monitoring and current spokesman for McCann, placing under judicial supervision Madeleine could have been made under the "instigation" of the couple, but a source of Leicestershire County Council , Contacted by telephone, refused to confirm this version saying that "the authorities have acted in the exclusive interest of Madeleine." On 10 September 2007, officials of the Police and Leicestershire County Council analyzed, meeting, the situation of the couple, twins and the disappearance of Madeleine. A few days later, those responsible for social services have met the couple at Rothley.
Het gaat er imho niet om wat er goed ligt in de publieke opinie maar om het feit dat de McCanns vantevoren vast willen hebben liggen waar Sean en Amelie naar toe gaan als zij vast komen te zitten, of dat nu Kate's moeder is of 1 van de broers of zusters van het stel dat maakt dan niet zo veel uit.quote:Op maandag 23 juni 2008 12:44 schreef Suko het volgende:
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Middag Kahaarin en overigen.Tjonge en dit non-verhaal brengt the Liverpool Daily Post als Breaking News, iets wat gisteren als een Exclusive in The People verscheen, inderdaad waren er vorig jaar al berichten over die bedreigingen en dus extra beveiliging. zie post van gisteren. Wat een enorme pers-armoede. Overigens vermoed ik niet dat de familie enig aandeel krijgt in de zorg van de kids. Zeker de moeder van Kate niet, zij is echt niet op goede voet met Gerry McCann en bovendien speelt de familie niet zo'n beste rol in deze tragedie. Ze zijn te actief bezig geweest allerlei statements rond te strooien en sommige hebben banden/zitting in het fonds, mogelijk fraudeus. Volgens mij mogen de kids waarschijnlijk (tot wanneer....?) bij de McCanns blijven maar elke beslissing van enig importantie moet worden voorgelegd aan een daartoe bevoegde instantie, bv een rechtbank of in overleg met Social Services. En verder Op sosmaddie.be staat ook een interessant stukje:
En precies dit soort verhalen zijn zo makkelijk rondgestrooid in deze zaak dat het gissen blijft, er is zoveel rook opgeworpen dat niemand er meer een touw aan vast kan knopen.quote:IMO zijn ze echt bang voor wat er bekend wordt gemaakt over Madeleine en mogelijk dat door deze constructie zulks deels geheim blijft ter bescherming van Madeleine (althans, zo is de wet bedoelt maar wij weten wel beter waarom de McCanns dat willen) en misschien ook de tweeling, letterlijk is niet duidelijk wát er precies op 7 juli wordt besproken/beslist. Zeker is dat de McCanns deze files zelf eerder willen hebben met de smoes dat genoemde sightings mogelijk niet goed zijn onderzocht, bull! Ongelofelijk blijft het dat vlak na de vermissing, de Daily Mail schrijft een paar weken, dat Madeleine toen al Ward of Court werd verklaard, daarover werd niets bekend gemaakt, hoe vooruit kun je denken...
Dat zal dan wel, het vloeit natuurlijk voort uit de zaak.quote:Op maandag 23 juni 2008 13:32 schreef Suko het volgende:
Ik zou wel eens willen weten of die beveiliging-kosten uit het fonds worden betaald, net zoals dat het geval is met die dure top-advocaten en Metrodo 3, iets wat Clarence Mitchell tussen neus en lippen verklaarde maar wederom ondergesneeuwd is door veel non-nieuws. "And the findmadeleine.com fund is not short of money. "The fund is healthy with the money paid by the British papers as compensation. It is that money that makes it possible for us to pay the lawyers and the search teams" explains Clarence." 24 Horas van onlangs. Geld wat eigenlijk alleen gebruikt mag worden voor de zoektocht naar Madeleine en eventueel kosten van levensonderhoud indien nodig. Maar dat zal de meerderheid van het publiek niet weten aangezien dat alleen in Portugal is gepubliceerd...mogelijk dat er dan ook geen cent meer binnenkomt, althans niet van goedgelovige burgers.
Thnx for the reminder.quote:Reminder:
Fund Objectives
1.1 The full objects of the Fund are:
1.1.1 To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann who was abducted in Praia da Luz, Portugal on Thursday 3rd May 2007;
1.1.2 To procure that Madeleine’s abduction is thoroughly investigated and that her abductors, as well as those who played or play any part in assisting them, are identified and brought to justice; and
1.1.3 To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine’s family.
1.2 If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.
@ Kahaarin, ik lees zo je post, mot ff een paar uurtjes 'aan de slag' zoals dat tegenwoordig kennelijk móet heten...![]()
Natuurlijk, de zaak gaat over Kate en Gerry maar dit is natuurlijk allemaal om Maddy terug te vinden, echt waar hoor.......quote:McCanns in bid for release of files
Jun 23 2008
Gerry and Kate McCann are to ask a High Court judge to order the release of police files on their daughter's disappearance.
Madeleine McCann went missing from the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in May last year but the country's secrecy laws have left her parents in the dark on much of the police investigation since then.
The McCanns and the private detective agency they are employing want to examine the potential lines of inquiry as part of their own search.
However, police in their home county of Leicestershire, who lead the British arm of the official investigation, have so far stuck to an agreement with their Portuguese counterparts on the non-disclosure of information.
The couple made their daughter a ward of court, which empowers judges to act in the little girl's best interests in a legal dispute.
They hope their application to Mrs Justice Hogg, listed for the Family Division of the High Court on July 7, will give them access to the police files on various reported sightings.
Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, said: "An application has been made on Madeleine's behalf by her parents for the disclosure of certain documents.
"The case and the judgment may be in public and this will be a matter for the court to decide.
"It has been the stated intention of Gerry and Kate to leave no stone unturned in doing everything necessary in the search for their daughter, as would any other parent.
"This application is just part of their search for Madeleine."
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breaking/index.aspx?c=world&jp=mhgbqlkfkfgbquote:Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesman, said: “I am limited in what I can say as matters are sub judice and relate to a minor.
“I can state that, on the instigation of Gerry and Kate McCann, Madeleine is a ward of the High Court of England and Wales.
“An application has been made on Madeleine’s behalf by her parents for the disclosure of certain documents.
“The case and the judgment may be in public and this will be a matter for the court to decide.
Dat zou zo maar eens kunnen, het zou idd verklaren waarom dit zo stilletjes en zonder statement van de McCanns is gedaan, het is in principe toch een headline of 2 waard, die arme tweeling die anders gebrandmerkt gaat worden als sibblings van....quote:Op maandag 23 juni 2008 20:46 schreef Suko het volgende:
Ha ha, Kahaarin, jij bent niet de enige die het spoor bijster is, de rest ook hoor. Dat verhaal staat nu ook op de site van de BBC. En ook Sky News, meldt 't, inmiddels ook op de vertrouwde NewsNow Ik heb net wel een kleine zoektocht gehouden wat betreft afbeeldingen van Sean en Amelie McCann. Iemand meldde dat de twee nu al tijden geblurd zijn en dat kan verband houden met het feit dat ze mogelijk ook Ward of Court zijn. De laatste foto dateert van ongeveer 3 oktober in een artikel in de Daily Mail, terwijl daarvoor dat helemaal geen probleem was, foto's zat. De McCanns hebben vlak na hun aankomst in Rothley, ik meen 10 september, bezoek gehad van Social Services, kan best zijn dat na een paar weken is besloten dat de tweeling niet meer met gezichtjes in beeld mogen, iets wat je ook zag in die ITV-docu, de koppies waren niet in beeld. Mogelijk een restrictie van SS of de rechtbank.
Ik denk ook niet dat ze die files krijgen, zeker niet als verdachten zijnde, de Britse politie die op zoek is naar Maddy heeft meer kans, die zullen misschien in de luwte ook wel een verzoek doen. Dan is dit natuurlijk een heel mooi rookgordijn, al denk ik niet dat ze het kunnen maken dit direct aan de McConns te geven, maar ik denk wel dat er dan "a person close to the investigation" een paar mooie foto's gaat maken.quote:Ik denk dat spin een grote rol speelt in deze, wát precies weet ik niet maar mogelijk is dit alles niet op intiatief van de McCanns. Kan men dan als formeel verdachte je kind Ward of Court verklaren? Ik heb een donkerbruin vermoeden dat zoiets wordt opgelegd in geval van een mogelijk misdrijf van de ouders. Opvallend verder ook dat eerst (zaterdag) de telegraph en toen de Daily Mail met dit nieuws kwam en nu de rest. Clarence Mitchell, slimme jongen hoor. Dat moeten wij denken dat het eergisteren echt nieuws was, maar nee, de copietjes werden vandaag weer netjes verdeeld en gepubliceerd. Kan best iets anders betekenen. Toch iets regelen voor het geval dát...Geef de lezers (en bloggers/fora) een kluifje, gerechtelijke termen zoals Ward of Court snapt toch zowat niemand, benadruk de zoektocht naar Madeleine en laat de rechtbank voor zo'n mooie reden de files overhandigen aan de McCanns, niks aan de hand toch?! Pfff. Als het goed is trapt daar de rechtbank niet in, maar ik geloof dus meer dat dit onderwerp niet eens aan de orde komt. Overigens meldt iemand dat niet alles qua files wordt vrijgegeven volgende maand. Getuigenissen staat er bv niet in, dat is waarschijnlijk ook dé reden waarom de McCanns die oproepen doen om getuigen (al of niet gehoord) zich bij hen te melden...het kwartje valt! En verder is er ook geen nieuws van Bloggers.
Aluminium hoedje anyone?quote:Overigens meldt iemand op websleuths dat het ook een verzekeringspolis van Madeleine kan betreffen..."BUT...the McCanns can still be named the beneficiary of any LIFE INSURANCE POLICY they had previously taken out on Madeleine regardless of their parental status....AND, being a ward of the state, the process of declaring Madeleine legally dead will be much quicker, not to mention a decision made by the court, and not the McCanns." Ohw, da's wel erg ver gezocht, dacht ik...nog een theorietje: "With the family court case - could it be that this is all about the twins. Could the PJ and Police be covering the fact that the Mccanns may be planning a very long holiday, and have decided to made a WOC of the twins. After reading the posts, it was mentioned that if a child is made WOC then a Court Hearing would be heard with a parent present. By making the twins WOC, then it would prevent them being taken oversea's and also if charges were going to be made, would have guardianship etc. legally in place. CM is good at spinning us off in one different direction - when maybe we should be considering another." En nog een opinie op deze site: JUSTICE FOR MADDIE AND THE TWINS
ROTFLMAO!quote:Ge begrijpt, niemand weet echt wat er op 7 juli beslist wordt, daar heeft 'onze' Clarence, zoals ook velen constateren, goed voor gezorgd, je zult maar met hem getrouwd zijn, djeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez, hij weet zich er altijd wel uit te l*llen....
Ohhhhhh, erg, solly....(no i'm not)(bron)
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Ik denk ook niet dat de McCanns op 7 juli dat verzoek om files-inzage beloond zien worden, en overigens denk ik dat de Britse cops alle info in hun bezit hebben, ook Social Services heeft een heel dossier over de McCanns.quote:Op maandag 23 juni 2008 20:58 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
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Ik denk ook niet dat ze die files krijgen, zeker niet als verdachten zijnde, de Britse politie die op zoek is naar Maddy heeft meer kans, die zullen misschien in de luwte ook wel een verzoek doen. Dan is dit natuurlijk een heel mooi rookgordijn, al denk ik niet dat ze het kunnen maken dit direct aan de McConns te geven, maar ik denk wel dat er dan "a person close to the investigation" een paar mooie foto's gaat maken.![]()
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Hoe dan ook Tmaatje, vermoedelijk zijn ze idd bang, alleen zij (en de PJ) weten alleen echt waarvoor....quote:Op maandag 23 juni 2008 22:06 schreef Tmaatje het volgende:
Een soort toeziend voogd benoemen voor een vermist kind?? Men dit deugt echt niet... als het voor de tweeling geregeld was zou ik zeggen ze zijn bang voor de toekomst nu zeg ik ze zijn bang voor wat al gebeurd is..wat een ouders..![]()
Kan best ook iets van waarheid inzitten. Ik postte ook al eerder dat één van de redenen van die Tapas-vrienden zou kunnen zijn om niet naar die reconstructie in Praia da Luz te gaan dat iemand aldaar één of meerdere van hen zou kunnen herkennen op plaatsen waar dat verdacht zou kunnen zijn. Afijn, we wachten het maar weer af...quote:"leaving aside the Ward of Court business for a moment, I am puzzled as to the nature of the reported sightings the McCanns expect to find in the Leicestershire police files what sort of reports are the PJ likely to have passed over? - sightings of UK residents in PDL who were behaving suspiciously? there have never been any actual reports of any such
and not of Murat, who comes under the PJ's juridiction
could it be that they are interested in sightings of any of the Tapas7, which might well have been passed to Leicestershire police for further investigation, even if the people reporting did not realise they had seen one of the Tapas7, as their photos were not in the press for months after M went missing?"
Dus er bestaat een kans dat ze sommige dingen al gehoord/gezien hebben, ze kunnen er alleen niets mee want officieel mogen ze het niet zien.....quote:Op maandag 23 juni 2008 23:10 schreef Suko het volgende:
Ik denk ook niet dat de McCanns op 7 juli dat verzoek om files-inzage beloond zien worden, en overigens denk ik dat de Britse cops alle info in hun bezit hebben, ook Social Services heeft een heel dossier over de McCanns.
Dat zou idd kunnen, al denk ik niet dat het waarschinlijk is, als 1 van de tapas7 verantwoordrlijk zou zijn dan denk ik dat het wel eerder uitgekomen zou zijn.quote:Anyway, ik las net nog een interessante invalshoek wat betreft die sithings waar de McCanns info over willen hebben die mogelijk in de files (die ze nu kennelijk eerder willen hebben dan de officiele inzage volgende maand) zijn beschreven, áls ze die pagina's tenminste te zien krijgen, iemand schreef:
Oh maar dat zou me daarintegen weer niets verbazen, het zou best kunnen dat het groepje helemaal niet zo dicht op elkaar heeft gezeten die avond, dan zouden de statements gewoon niet kloppen, ik denk dat de McCanns heel erg moeten vertrouwen op de statements van de tapas gang, en daar kon nog wel eens de schoen knellen.quote:Kan best ook iets van waarheid inzitten. Ik postte ook al eerder dat één van de redenen van die Tapas-vrienden zou kunnen zijn om niet naar die reconstructie in Praia da Luz te gaan dat iemand aldaar één of meerdere van hen zou kunnen herkennen op plaatsen waar dat verdacht zou kunnen zijn. Afijn, we wachten het maar weer af...
Stel dat de British High Court hun verzoek mogelijk gaat inwilligen, dan zou dat een ongelofelijke brute klap zijn voor de PJ, die de datum van het opheffen van de secrecy heeft bepaald, pakweg 14 july, daar dient de Britse politie zich ook aan te houden. Maar gezien de eerdere tegenwerkingen van de UK zou het best mogelijk zijn dat ze deze dreun uitdelen....Overigens geloof ik er niks van dat het team McCann zegt dat ze pas de documenten in augustus krijgen ivm de Portugese vakantietijd. Kan best zijn dat het publiek even niet mag weten dat ze die inzage wel halverwege juli krijgen maar om tactische redenen dat even geheim willen houden...imo.quote:Maddie’s parents have asked a British court to have access to documents
McCanns want evidence
Kate and Gerry want to consult the process, in order to find out everything about the sightings. The British High Court will decide
The McCanns can’t be bothered to wait for the date on which the Maddie process becomes public and have advanced a special request to the British judicial system. The request will be analysed on the 7th of July in the family section of the British High Court and essentially targets the access to documents that are related to sightings of Maddie.
According to what 24Horas was able to establish, the McCanns intend to pass the information about the sightings on to the detective agency that they hired, Spanish Metodo 3. If the court decides that the release of said documents does not harm the investigation, it will then be the Leicestershire police that will deliver the data to the McCanns.
Until now, the police in this city – the region in central England where the couple lives – has not made any details of the process public, at the request of the Portuguese Polícia Judiciária. According to what was revealed by the site of British channel Sky News, this diligence by the McCanns was only possible because Kate and Gerry placed the case of their missing daughter under the guardianship of the High Court, which confers the judges the right to act in the child’s best interest.
Normally, this decision is made when a child is at risk, but in this case, the process was started at the request of Madeleine’s parents, several months ago.
“Leave no stone unturned”
The McCanns’ spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, has confirmed the date of the hearing to Lusa Agency (July 7) and that the couple has requested access to “certain documents”. He refused to offer any further details.
“It was always Gerry and Kate McCann’s intention to leave no stone unturned in order to do the necessary to find their daughter”, Mitchell underlined. “This request is only a part of their search for Madeleine”.
The 5-year-old girl disappeared on the 3rd of May of 2007, while sleeping in a bedroom at a hotel in Praia da Luz, Algarve, while her parents dined in the nearby Tapas Bar. Kate and Gerry McCann remain arguidos.
One year later, the Public Ministry has not produced any accusation against them.
Secrecy is ending
The McCanns’ diligence with the British justice is practically useless, because the judicial secrecy on the Maddie case will be lifted in July, according to what the Republic’s General Prosecutor himself, Pinto Monteiro, has confirmed to 24Horas (in the edition of June 17, 2008). According to the calculations that we did, at that time, it will be on the 14th of July that the process becomes public – one day before the judicial holidays.
According to what Rogério Alves, the McCanns’ lawyer, told us then, the couple is only counting on access to the process in August, which could be due to the judicial holidays – which are from July 15 until August 15. During that period, the courts function only with shift judges. Which means that only priority processes, with detained arguidos, are worked upon. “The Maddie case is not a priority”, a senior official at the Portimão court has guaranteed.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------quote:"This whole thing seems to me to be a nonsense generated by Clarrie to get everyone in a speculative lather to detract from the fact that the Portuguese investigative and judicial processes in this case are grinding on regardless of what he says and the English legal team do and that they have no control over what happens. What I understand is that at some point last year the surviving children were made wards of court as opposed to having a protection order made, which would have meant they were put into the care of the local authority on returning to the UK. As wards they are allowed to remain with their parents but their welfare is the concern of the court, and this hearing is to alter or remove, at the parents' or social services request, some part of the original order. The parents can't use this court to somehow demand access to confidential evidence held in a foreign judiciary, however Clarrie tries to spin it - away from what is related to the issue of gross neglect and over to the 'persecuted by swarthy foreigners who are setting us up who are totally innocent of everything' mularkey with which we have become so familiar over the last year. Clarrie is trading on the general ignorance of legal procedures and exploiting that ignorance as best he can. IMO the macs are desperate to keep the fact that this case will come to trial away from the British public for as long as possible so that the dosh keeps trickling into the Fund for as long as possible."
Goedemorgen, net zoals gisteren, the TImes, the Sun, whatever, breaking yesterday's news, en al die ouwe koeien, de sloot zal zo langzamerhand wel leeg zijn nu.....quote:Op donderdag 26 juni 2008 09:06 schreef Suko het volgende:
Mogguh!Het is tamelijk rustig aan de 'overkant' van de Noordzee...alle neuzen in de juridische documentjes???Anyway, de Tapas-vriendjes ruiken ook geld, ach ja, dat leidt ook weer even de aandacht af van de McCanns, en wat eurootjes extra kunnen ze misschien wel gebruiken....
Ook Murat had dat al aangekondigd maar die heeft daar meer recht op, hij is echt door de Briste pers in de riolen van de smear en slur getrokken, inclusief treitercampagnes van het team McCann cq Metodo 3.
Tapas 7 threatening to sue the Express Group, 25 June 2008
Private Eye (No online link, appears in paper version only)
It's groundhog day at the Daily Express and Daily Star. Four months after settling in a libel action from Kate and Gerry McCann by giving them £550,000 in damages plus an amazing front page apology, Dirty Des's rags are facing another legal complaint over their coverage of the Madeleine saga.
Last week they received solicitors' letters from the so called 'tapas 7', the McCanns holiday companions, threatening to sue "in relation to a number of articles".
Once again Dirty Des's legal department has issued an urgent edict that all Maddy-related material on the papers' websites must be "removed forthwith". And once again, hacks are bracing themselves for a bumper payout and an abject grovel. Bron (Dirty Des = Richard Desmond, de baas van de Express-group) Zie 3arguidoforum: Tapas 7 threat to sue DE (Private eye today) En verder laat Anorak het ook een beetje afweten, niets over het nieuws wat betreft Ward of Court, gemiste kans.![]()
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Nieuws/info is te lezen op o.a.Three Arguidos Forum + Joana Morais + mccannfiles
http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/185287.htmlquote:Madeleine McCann: A Solicitor Writes To The Express
LITTLE news in the Express of the paper’s once ubiquitous missing cover girl Madeleine McCann.
One reason could be that Express Newspapers have received a solicitor’s letter from the so-called Tapas 7 threatening to sue the paper in relation to “a number of articles”.
All ‘Our Maddie’ related content has been purged from the newspapers’ websites.
Can we expect another generous donation to the McCann fighting fund soon, and Madeleine to reappear on the papers’ front pages, albeit for one day only?
Hooooi Kahaarin, zou best eens kunnen, aan de andere zijn er jammer genoeg zat bladen die wel non-nieuws plaatsen, zelfs af en aan de BBC. Oude DE-artikelen, gewoon...om te pesten!quote:Op vrijdag 27 juni 2008 18:18 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Aha! Kijk nu eens, nu snap ik waarom de pers zo tam is, er komt een nieuwe claim.....
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http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/185287.html
Weet je, het zou me idd niets verbazen dat men dit afwacht en ondertussen de McConns geen pers meer gunnen, misschien slecht gedacht maar ik denk dat ik als krant hetzelfde gedaan zou hebben, geen echt nieuws, lastig doen, dan geen pers, screw het Amber-alert maar.
Dit klopt toch helemaal niet? We hebben foto's gezien van die shutters, niks smashed, gewoon een beetje stuk, en ze hadden de deur toch niet op slot vanwege eventueel brandgevaar? Waarom snap ik dit nu even niet? Deze man heeft met Kate gepraat nauwelijks uren nadat het hele circus in gang is gezet, het lijkt me dat dit juist de bewijzen zijn die de PJ heeft, het klopt niet, de tijdslijn niet en de verklaringen niet.quote:Kate rings another close friend, Jon Corner, at 03:00am
Jon Corner, a close friend of Mrs McCann and godparent of the twins, said Kate telephoned him in the middle of the night distraught.
He said: "She just blurted out that Madeleine had been abducted. She told me, 'They have broken the shutter on the window and taken my little girl.'
"They had left the apartment locked while they were having their meal, but when they went back the last time they saw the damage."
After speaking to her a second time, he repeated his earlier account, but this time in stronger language
He told how tearful Kate sobbed down the phone early yesterday: "Someone has taken my little girl."
He continued: "She was in an absolutely hysterical state - very, very distressed. She blurted out Madeleine had been abducted.
"Kate said the shutters of the room were smashed. Madeleine was missing It looks as though someone had gone straight past the twins to get to her. Kate was incredibly upset. I've spoken to her since, and she's still completely devastated.
"She's also very upset that the police don't seem to be doing more to find Madeleine. She thinks there's too little happening."
van Wiki.quote:Pseudologia phantastica, (Grieks: pseudo = vals, logos = spreken, woorden) ook wel (eigenlijk onjuist) genoemd pseudologica phantastica of Confabulatie, is een psychische ziekte waarbij herinneringsvervalsingen zodanig een eigen leven gaan leiden, dat ze duidelijk niet meer overeenkomen met de waarheid. Voor de lijder is het echter wel waarheid, hij gelooft erin en zal heftig zijn eigen onwaarheden bevestigen en verdedigen.
Iedere persoon stelt zaken achteraf beter voor dan ze zijn. De wegens dysfunctioneren ontslagen werknemer houdt zichzelf en anderen voor dat hij en zijn werkgever er samen een punt achter hebben gezet omdat de verhouding verstoord was. De afgewezen verliefde houdt zichzelf voor dat zijn geliefde hem niet afwees, maar er nog niet klaar voor was. Door zichzelf dit maar vaak genoeg voor te houden, gaat men in de eigen leugen geloven, en wordt de leugen waarheid.
Voor de pseudologische leugenaar loopt dit proces volledig uit de hand. De geflipte medische student maakt zichzelf wijs dat hij een goede dokter is, de afgehaakte juridische student denkt een advocaat te zijn. Het extreemste voorbeeld is een lijder die zichzelf inbeeldde een beroemd psychiater te zijn, en een congres voor psychiaters wist binnen te komen. Stuk voor stuk geloofden ze hem. Een ander geval was een in zijn carrière gefrustreerd persoon, die zich inbeeldde van allerlei vorsten en koningen, waaronder de Capetingers, af te stammen. Hiervoor knutselde hij zelfs een stamboom in elkaar. Voor buitenstaanders al dan niet doorzichtige leugens worden vaak tot vervelens toe herhaald. Door het zelfvertrouwen dat ze uitstralen doordat ze niet beseffen dat ze liegen kunnen uit deze patiënten oplichters en kwakzalvers voortkomen.
Resultaat is dat een aantal mensen uiteindelijk ook wel gelooft in de verhalen van de persoon, maar dat er ook een aantal is die er dwars doorheen prikt. De pseudologia-phantastica-patiënt zal namelijk niet aarzelen om werkelijk ieder middel te gebruiken om zijn verhalen te ondersteunen, ook de middelen die zeer eenvoudig te controleren zijn. Iemand die in de waan is een hoogleraar te zijn, zou bijvoorbeeld kunnen beweren vele boeken geschreven te hebben. Dit soort dingen zijn eenvoudig na te kijken via bijvoorbeeld het Internet. Mensen die dit dus doen en die niet weten dat de patiënt lijdt aan pseudologia fantastica zullen dit dus als glashard liegen ondervinden, wat een zeer negatief effect op de omgang met elkaar kan hebben.
Deze ziekte dient niet te worden verward met pathologisch liegen, een psychische ziekte waarbij men de onbedwingbare drang heeft te liegen. De pathologische leugenaar weet dat hij liegt, de pseudologische leugenaar zegt slechts dat wat voor hem de waarheid is.
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