[9/11]Wie? Waarom? Hoe?

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Op vrijdag 6 oktober 2006 14:35 schreef mgerben het volgende:

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Ik ben onder de indruk - dit ben ik met tijden lang spitten nog niet tegengekomen.
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Mwoa, ik vind het beter klinken dan alle andere dingen in dit forum (vooral vanwege de focus op details) tot nu toe.
Ik ben het totaal met je oneens, maar je hoeft niet te zeggen dat je bewering niet sluitend is.

Er zijn eigenlijk maar weinig websites die peak oil en 9/11 aan elkaar koppelen en deze krijgen verder ook totaal geen aandacht in de media en ook vrij weinig in de 9/11 truth movement, welke zichzelf omzeep brengt met speculaties, hoaxen en onderlinge ruzies.

De naar mijn mening beste websites zijn:

www.fromthewilderness.com
http://cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
http://www.oilempire.us/911.html

De laatstgenoemde houd zich ook bezig met het scheiden van de goede en slechte theorieen omtrent 9/11. (iets naar beneden scrollen naar de eerste tabel)

De site is echter erg chaotisch, er zit echter wel structuur in, maar echt overzichtelijk is het niet.

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Op zaterdag 14 oktober 2006 00:08 schreef Beezz het volgende:

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Wisten we dit al?

tvp

Deze had ik nog niet gelezen. Wel probeer ik een beetje op de hoogte te blijven van wat er in Venezuela gebeurd. En eigenlijk wil ik binnen nu en drie jaar een keer voor een paar maanden in Zuid Amerika verblijven om zelf met de mensen daar te spreken en wat cultuur op te doen.

Ik kan mij in de volgende beschrijvingen redelijk vinden.


from Nicholas Levis, summeroftruth.org:

"Staging 9/11 as an inside job is going to work best (in fact, is likely to work only) if there actually exists an active network of anti-American terrorists who are deeply committed to killing Americans in response to U.S. policy. In other words, those who would blame Qaeda need a (relatively) real Qaeda. A partly-real enemy is much better than an entirely fabricated one.

"The most robust way for insider masterminds to stage 9/11 and get away with it is to arrange for their agents to infiltrate among "real foreign terrorists." Let them come up with their own plots (or plant plots among them), choose a plot that will produce the results desired by the masterminds, and see that through to fruition. At some point, the masterminds and their agents will hijack the plot from the would-be hijackers, to make sure it happens. You won't risk the whole game on the ability of amateurs to get away with it, you will help them along or even replace them (with a remote control hijacking, for example). But it's best to have "real terrorists" in play. They leave a more solid trail of evidence internationally. Cops and agents and academics of two dozen countries can honestly confirm the existence of an al-Qaeda network. That way there is less need to initiate outside observers into the plot and you don't have to hope they are all stupid, as they would have to be to fall for a complete fabrication of "Qaeda." (Qaeda at this point is just a term of convenience for the Islamist extremist networks.)

"The best result would be for a whole bunch of Islamist extremists running around believing that their crew pulled off 9/11 all by themselves (how inspiring for them!). The patsies should believe they actually did it.


Peeling the Onion of 9/11

Dear Friends,

I have always reserved this email list for information related to low frequency active sonar. Today, however, is a very different day in so many ways that I have decided to share with you a message I received.
As some of you may know, I served as legal counsel at the Christic Institute during the 1980s. The major case we pursued was a racketeering case against the private, off-the-shelf, covert operators conducting the Iran-contra operation [orchestrated by George Bush].

During that litigation, I got a good look at the dark side of the U.S. democratic experiment. To summarize that perspective, the commitment to democracy unleashed great creative potential for innovation that in turn produced massive wealth. The commitment to democracy then got lost in the pursuit of materialism. The large corporations received recognition in the law as persons, their contributions polluted the democratic process, the government became an extension of their blind advocacy of an unlimited right to devour the Earth's resources, and the military-industrial-intelligence complex became a second government within the government holding more power than the publicly presented government.

To preserve and enhance the national security state, things were done supposedly in the interest of the American people that the people knew nothing about and not have approved had they known. Death squads, assassinations, subversion of indigenous movements, overthrow of democratically elected governments, and other manifestations of the national security state agenda took place out of sight. Only occasionally did these actions surface, such as Cointelpro conducted by the FBI to discredit and destroy dissenting groups.

A dream image captured the essence of what was happening. I was watching people sitting on the ground picnicking with their families while a band played happy music in a nearby bandstand. Behind the picnickers was a high, black wall that the people did not notice. Every now and then, a figure would slip out from under the wall, go out into the world and perform some abominable act, and then slip back again - all without anyone noticing. That is what U.S. history looks like when you step back and objectively observe what has been done. Outside dreamtime, our investigation into the history of U.S. covert operations revealed the patterns of behavior that manifest in such events as Iran-contra.

During the Iran-contra involvement, I met various people inside the intelligence establishment who continued to struggle to prevent the abuses that were bringing the U.S. into disrepute throughout the world. This evening, I received a message from one of those people regarding the events unfolding today. I neither reject nor embrace the analysis set forth in the message. Ever since the Iran-contra investigation, I have kept an open mind regarding how to interpret unfolding events that are often very different from what they seem on the surface.

I send you this message to provide you with a perspective that you will not hear or see on CNN or any other major media outlet. In times like these, it is even more important to keep our wits about us and not be sucked into anyone else's script, even this one.

Aloha,
Lanny Sinkin
11:00 p.m.; 9/11/01


Response

"Aloha to you my friend,

I know that the many discoveries and lessons we shared during the Christic investigation are still fresh in your memory. I have applied our analytical technique to the events unfolding today and thought you might enjoy the musings that resulted.

There is always the onion. You peel off one layer and there is another layer underneath. I think Warren Christopher sought to encourage such peeling on CNN today. He said that while we may rush to conclude the bin Laden is the author of the events, it is important to dig deeper than that surface analysis to find the true perpetrators. As with most of the liberal Democrats, Christopher is not going to come right out and say what he thinks he knows. After all, during Iran-contra, when Congressman Jack Brooks of Texas asked Oliver North about his plan to suspend the U.S. Constitution (hatched inside FEMA), it was liberal Democrat Daniel Inouye who cut off the question and shuffled that subject off into executive session.

Let's start with the Taliban. Russia invades Afghanistan. The CIA is loosed to fight them. Actually, as you know, the CIA is simply the visible agency for the much larger group of agencies that conduct U.S. covert policies and that are in turn part of an international network of covert organizations pursuing common policies in many instances. The CIA looks for a group that will meet certain criteria, such as fanatical enough to conduct a guerilla war, disciplined, hardy, and amenable to outside support to fulfill their perceived mission. Enter the Taliban, a relatively obscure group preaching a fanatical version of Islam that bears little resemblance to the actual religious teachings and is rejected by most Islamic movements. The value of their beliefs is that the Russians fit their model of the unbeliever, who must be destroyed. On the border near Pakistan, they are available. Kissinger had already put the "tilt toward Pakistan" in motion. So the onion now has three layers - U.S./CIA, Pakistan, Taliban. Arming, training, and supplying the Taliban through Pakistan, the CIA experiences a rare success. The Taliban and others inflict so much damage on the Russian forces that Russian public opinion (similar to U.S. public opinion during Vietnam) turns against the war and forces Russia to withdraw.

Now armed and dangerous, the Taliban turn their guns on competing groups within Afghanistan and rise to national dominance. Women, foreign missionaries, and other groups not holding a sufficiently holy place to be considered righteous become targets of Taliban fanaticism. Ben Laden is considered a true believer with the resources to do a lot of harm to the unrighteous and finds a home in Afghanistan.


To the onion now has four layers: U.S./CIA; Pakistan; Taliban; Ben Laden.

The final layer of the onion is the semi-independent cells with the Laden network. Even better would be to have sent recruits in to Laden to form such cells that would actually operate under control external to Laden.

Enter Bush and Company. With practically all the judges on the federal bench now appointees of Nixon, Reagan, and Bush (the elder), stealing an election through the Supreme Court is a piece of cake. The Iran-contra gang comes storming back into power. The appointment of Richard Armitage as Deputy Secretary of State is like a rooster crowing in terms of announcing who is in charge. Colin Powell is window dressing.

The old gang sets about doing what they always wanted to do (loot and pillage) and undoing what they always wanted undone (environmental protection, civil rights, etc.) They follow the old axiom of do everything controversial you can in the first months of office to give people time to forget. Withdrawing from the Kyoto Treaty, leaving arsenic in the water, violating and then withdrawing from the ABM treaty, promulgating a "reward your friends" energy policy, etc. all will predictably lead to an alienation of the electorate.

Sure enough, the opposition begins to strengthen. Your campaign to stop deployment of low frequency active sonar is only one of many campaigns that have mobilized people, fattened the coffers of opposition organizations, and produced a greater willingness to challenge the actions of the government.

The next step is to powerfully impact the emotional body of the electorate and cause the nation to rally behind the President and the military. The Gulf War model is not readily available. You remember how U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie told Hussein that the dispute between Kuwait and Iraq was a local matter and how Hussein swallowed that fly like a hungry trout. Then Bush (the elder) got to unite the world to drive Hussein out of Kuwait. Those types of manipulation are not so easy to find. So back to the onion.

The terrorist bin Laden or elements of his network are available as a surrogate. Only this time the purpose of the surrogate is not to fight someone else. The purpose is to terrorize the U.S. population into embracing Bush and Company.

Laden's big actions to date have generally involved getting a bomb into some place where it can cause harm, such as a truck aimed at an embassy gate or a small boat aimed at a large ship. This time, however, he will make a great leap forward into being able to recruit four teams that are capable of hijacking four different airplanes from three different airports, conducting the hijacking with such swiftness that none of the legitimate crew can punch in the hijack code, flying those airplanes without the crew in place, navigating those airplanes to separate targets with high impact potential (Trade Center innocents, military hq, and presidential retreat plus the passengers), and impacting three of the four targets in a very short period of time, thereby inflicting the damage in such a way as to have the most emotional impact on the population.

The onion provides plausible deniability. Assistance will be provided through cooperating elements of Pakistani intelligence and then through cooperating elements in the Taliban to bin Laden and perhaps on to elements of Laden's network operating without his direct control. The network cell conducting the operation will be suicide squads, perhaps recruited from the Palestinian population. Deniability for everyone and obliteration for the perpetrators. Pretty clean all around.

Laden will never know that he is a pawn of the U.S. national security state. He will believe that Allah has suddenly blessed him with resources and capability that previously eluded him. He will be the trout. Once he takes the bait, he will be the new demon, the country will rally behind the President and the military to exorcise their fears, and everyone will forget all the terrible things Bush and Company did since January. I would assume that you will have a very hard time getting anyone to pay any attention to low frequency active sonar, particularly as your position can be painted as impeding military preparedness at a time when terrorists and rogue nations are on a rampage. Sorry about the whales.

As you may have noted, President Bush (the younger) appointed his campaign manager head of FEMA. While being given charge of an agency that provides financial and other assistance in time of flood and other natural disaster may not seem like much of a reward for returning the White House to the national security state, there are still all those pesky little executive orders that essentially turn the country over to FEMA in times of national instability. As events unfolded today, FEMA took charge.

Once the deed is done, tracks are to be covered. An amusing CNN story today was the "leak" from law enforcement that the FBI intended to execute search warrants tomorrow in Hollywood and Daytona Beach, Florida. Of course, law enforcement, particularly in highly sensitive cases, always broadcasts in advance to potential suspects their intent to conduct a search the next day. CNN, which would almost certainly withhold a story about a planned military action during wartime, somehow cannot contain itself and breaks the news to the perpetrators that a trail needs to be covered. Alternatively, the search sites need to be sown with the necessary evidence to continue pointing the finger in the "right" direction. Perhaps they will find a diary of one of the perpetrators detailing their service to Allah against the U.S. Satan and their allegiance to bin Laden. The FBI will find whatever it is that others want them to find.

It will be interesting to watch as the cover up continues. Will evidence be lost? Will evidence be fabricated? Witnesses die mysteriously? Stay tuned if you can stomach it all.

Well color me cynical if you will. I have seen enough of how these guys operate to find this entire episode simply too useful politically and too perfect in execution. I hope you enjoy these musings. No need to reply."


Bron: http://www.oilempire.us/qaeda.html#onion

Ik stel dat je 9/11 en de gebeurtenissen die daarna volgden pas goed kan zien wanneer je het bekijkt in een grote context. Nog zonder 9/11 als een inside job te zien.

De belangrijkste kennis die je naar mijn mening moet hebben is:
- de geschiedenis van het midden oosten en de westerse bemoeienissen
- globalisatie, wereldhandel en wereldeconomie
- Belangen van de US en opkomende machten als China en India, voornamelijk geopolitieke belangen zoals economie en energie (met op de achtergrond de belangen van Europa en Rusland)
- Algemene kennis van politieke filosofie en geopolitiek


Essentiele boeken

- The Grand Chessboard van Zbigniew Brzezinski
- Project for the New American Century: Rebuilding America's Defenses
- The Pentagon's New Map: War and Peace in the Twenty-first Century van Thomas P.M. Barnett
- Blueprint for Action: A Future Worth Creating van Thomas P.M. Barnett

Dit zijn de werken van de strategen achter het beleid van de VS van op zijn minst de afgelopen 10 jaar met hun visie voor de toekomst.


Essentiele documentaires

De documentaires hieronder genoemd zijn mainstream op een enkele na.

Er zijn op internet twee lezingen van Thomas Barnett beschikbaar die zeer de moeite waard zijn.

De titels zijn ongeveer als volgt:
CSPAN - Thomas Barnett - Pentagon's New Map (2 uur 45 min)
CSPAN - Thomas Barnett - National Security Strategy (1 uur 15 min)

De documentaire serie van de BBC getiteld The Power of Nightmares is ook erg goed voor het beter begrijpen van de huidige wereld en de ideologie achter zowel de Bush administratie als de radicale moslims in het Midden Oosten.


Michael Rupperts presentatie van het boek The Grand Chessboard uit zijn lezing the Truth and Lies of 9/11

Michael Ruppert - The Grand Chessboard.avi (14 min)


De BBC documentaire The War for Oil geeft de geopolitieke en economische belangen in de oorlog met Iraq goed weer.

BBC Money Programme - The War For Oil Part 1 (10 min)
BBC Money Programme - The War For Oil Part 2 (10 min)
BBC Money Programme - The War For Oil Part 3 (9 min)


De onderstaande stukjes uit de documentaire The Oil Factor gaan dieper in op de oliebelangen in het Midden Oosten.

The Oil Factor Part 1 (4 min)
The Oil Factor Part 2 (3 min)
The Oil Factor Part 3 (4 min)


Een documentaire meer gericht op de geschiedenis van de schaduw regering van de VS is de documentaire van PBS. Er is voor zover ik weet alleen een edit versie beschikbaar van 22 minuten. De volledige uitzending zou 1 uur en 30 minuten lang zijn.

PBS - Bill Moyers - The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis (22 min)

[ Bericht 4% gewijzigd door OpenYourMind op 29-10-2006 10:11:39 ]

Hehe ik dacht even dat het om een post van Pietje ging...

Alhoewel Pietjes theorieen toch nog een stuk meer op waarheid gebasseerd zijn en naar betere informatie leiden.

Anyway bedankt voor de bump.