Israël, Libanon/Gaza, oorlog #50

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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 09:28 schreef venomsnake het volgende:
tvp... deel 50 alweer... pff.

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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 10:08 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Gaza, Libanon en Irak. Afghanistan ook. Straks nog Iran en Syrië. Ik zie een patroon, en het is genocide.

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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 10:17 schreef venomsnake het volgende:
De war on terror heet dat....

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A year after his “Axis of Evil” speech before the U.S. Congress, President Bush met with three Iraqi Americans, one of whom became postwar Iraq’s first representative to the United States. The three described what they thought would be the political situation after the fall of Saddam Hussein. During their conversation with the President, Galbraith claims, it became apparent to them that Bush was unfamiliar with the distinction between Sunnis and Shiites.

Galbraith reports that the three of them spent some time explaining to Bush that there are two different sects in Islam--to which the President allegedly responded, “I thought the Iraqis were Muslims!”

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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 10:08 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Gaza, Libanon en Irak. Afghanistan ook. Straks nog Iran en Syrië. Ik zie een patroon, en het is genocide.

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Instead of having a basis in careful planning, the war on Lebanon seems to be built upon the grandiose schemes outlined in 1996 by a group of US foreign policy hawks in a paper titled "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm." That strategy paper advocated the abandonment of the Arab-Israeli peace process and overthrowing regional regimes, including that of Saddam Hussein. Following this line of thinking, the current war-mongering US administration has made a clean break from the honorable American tradition of promoting peace and has openly embraced the path of destruction.

Fools rush in to another quagmire

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In 1996 a group of then opposition U.S. policy agitators, including Richard Perle and Douglas Feith, presented a paper entitled "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" to incoming Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The "clean break" was from the prevailing peace process, advocating that Israel pursue a combination of roll-back, destabilization and containment in the region, including striking at Syria and removing Saddam Hussein from power in favor of "Hashemite control in Iraq." The Israeli horse they backed then was not up to the task.

Finding themselves somewhat bogged down in the Iraqi quagmire, the neoconservatives are reveling in the latest crisis, displaying their customary hubris in re-seizing the initiative. The U.S. press and blogosphere is awash with neocon-inspired calls for indefinite shooting, no talking and extension of hostilities to Syria and Iran, with Gingrich calling this a third world war to "defend civilization."

Haaretz - Ending the neoconservative nightmare

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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 10:47 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Maar... hoe... kan... dat... vraagt u zich af. Ja, de Grote Leider faalt immers niet.
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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 11:12 schreef Godslasteraar het volgende:

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Nu is het jammer dat regeringen in de VS niet voortijdig naar huis gestuurd kunnen worden. Terwijl volgens mij dé oplossing voor de benarde positie van de VS het simpelweg volledig wegtrekken van de troepen uit Irak is. En een Unilateral Disengagement van het Westen tov de islamitische wereld.

Wegwezen uit het Midden-Oosten


planting seeds!

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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 11:12 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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Mr. Olmert said the Israeli attacks had isolated Hezbollah from the rest of the Lebanese population by inflicting widespread damage for which its radical tactics would be blamed. There was initial criticism by many Lebanese, but this appears to have subsided because of the havoc caused by the Israeli attacks. In an event that would have been unthinkable a few months ago, in this country where politics is locked into religious lines, the Maronite Catholic patriarch — the spiritual leader of the most pro-Western populace — convened a meeting this week of religious leaders of other communities, Shiite and Sunni Muslims and several varieties of Christians, resulting in a statement of solidarity and photographs in Wednesday’s newspapers. Their joint statement, condemning the Israeli “aggression,” hailed “the resistance, mainly led by Hezbollah, which represents one of the sections of society.”

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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 11:16 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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Olie, hè. En nooit-meer-Bosnië. Of Rwanda of de Holocaust of wat het ook was.

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Raketten boven Tyrus in Libanon

Tel Aviv, 5 aug. Bij Israëlische bombardementen in Libanon, onder andere bij de havenstad Tyrus zijn gisteren zeker veertig burgers om het leven gekomen.bij dit artikelnieuws - Beiroet geïsoleerd, raket op Hadera

Hezbollah bestookte gisteravond de Israëlische kustplaats Hadera, bijna veertig kilometer ten noorden van Tel Aviv. Daar werd alleen een leegstaande landbouwschuur vernield, maar nog niet eerder reikten Hezbollah-raketten zo ver – 80 kilometer over de grens – in Israël. Een dag eerder had Hezbollah-leider Nasrallah aangekondigd dat de Israëlische metropool Tel Aviv zou worden aangevallen als Israël de luchtaanvallen op Beiroet zou voortzetten. Dat gebeurde gisteren op omvangrijke schaal.
http://www.nrc.nl/buitenland/article408975.ece

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Libanon door conflict ook getroffen door milieuramp

(Novum/AP) - Sinds Israël twee weken geleden de Jiyeh-elektriciteitscentrale ten zuiden van Beiroet beschoot, is al zeker vijftienduizend ton olie de Middellandse Zee ingestroomd. Dat heeft de burgemeester van Beiroet, Abdel Monem Ariss, vrijdag gezegd. Het zou gaan om de grootste milieuramp uit de Libanese geschiedenis.
Van de ooit zo mooie Libanese kust is nu 130 kilometer besmeurd met diepzwarte olie, en het ziet ernaar dat dat ook wel even zo blijft. Vanuit Koeweit zijn tien vrachtwagens met spullen om de olie op te ruimen aangekomen, maar de schoonmaakwerkzaamheden kunnen niet beginnen door de aanhoudende Israëlische bombardementen.
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http://www.trouw.nl/laats(...)ffen_door_milieuramp

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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 11:30 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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"Doe mij een toppertje en een breezer-ananas en doe er ook maar een dubbele whisky bij."

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The neocons' next war

By secretly providing NSA intelligence to Israel and undermining the hapless Condi Rice, hardliners in the Bush administration are trying to widen the Middle East conflict to Iran and Syria, not stop it.

The National Security Agency is providing signal intelligence to Israel to monitor whether Syria and Iran are supplying new armaments to Hezbollah as it fires hundreds of missiles into northern Israel, according to a national security official with direct knowledge of the operation. President Bush has approved the secret program.

Inside the administration, neoconservatives on Vice President Dick Cheney's national security staff and Elliott Abrams, the neoconservative senior director for the Near East on the National Security Council, are prime movers behind sharing NSA intelligence with Israel, and they have discussed Syrian and Iranian supply activities as a potential pretext for Israeli bombing of both countries, the source privy to conversations about the program says. (Intelligence, including that gathered by the NSA, has been provided to Israel in the past for various purposes.) The neoconservatives are described as enthusiastic about the possibility of using NSA intelligence as a lever to widen the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah and Israel and Hamas into a four-front war.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is said to have been "briefed" and to be "on board," but she is not a central actor in pushing the covert neoconservative scenario. Her "briefing" appears to be an aspect of an internal struggle to intimidate and marginalize her. Recently she has come under fire from prominent neoconservatives who oppose her support for diplomatic negotiations with Iran to prevent its development of nuclear weaponry.

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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 11:24 schreef B4CO het volgende:

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In order to try to understand the neoconservative road map, senior national security professionals have begun circulating among themselves a 1996 neocon manifesto against the Middle East peace process. Titled "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," its half-dozen authors included neoconservatives highly influential with the Bush administration -- Richard Perle, first-term chairman of the Defense Policy Board; Douglas Feith, former undersecretary of defense; and David Wurmser, Cheney's chief Middle East aide.

"A Clean Break" was written at the request of incoming Likud Party Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and intended to provide "a new set of ideas" for jettisoning the policies of assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. Instead of trading "land for peace," the neocons advocated tossing aside the Oslo agreements that established negotiations and demanding unconditional Palestinian acceptance of Likud's terms, "peace for peace." Rather than negotiations with Syria, they proposed "weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria." They also advanced a wild scenario to "redefine Iraq." Then King Hussein of Jordan would somehow become its ruler; and somehow this Sunni monarch would gain "control" of the Iraqi Shiites, and through them "wean the south Lebanese Shia away from Hezbollah, Iran, and Syria.

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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 12:56 schreef Evil_Jur het volgende:
Wat voegt dat allemaal ontzettend weinig toe aan het topic.

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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 13:06 schreef Mutant01 het volgende:
Dit zijn maar Christenen, daar hebben we wel genoeg van.

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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 13:09 schreef venomsnake het volgende:

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Die zijn daar neergelegd door hizbollah, sommigen leven zelfs nog en doen net alsof ze dood zijn.

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Op zaterdag 5 augustus 2006 13:10 schreef Yildiz het volgende:

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Ja, en rechts zie je iemand met een beetje groene kleding lopen!
En iets van een helm! [afbeelding]