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Op zondag 25 juni 2006 23:02 schreef Yildiz het volgende:
We kunnen nog een hoop leren van Zwitserland, en ik ga pitten.
Ik denk eerder van Duitsland. Aangezien zij de resultaten hebben en Zwitserland niet echt .

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  zondag 25 juni 2006 @ 23:07:02 #102
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Een boodschap van Ayaan's collega.
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The Washington Post

Outlook

By Richard Perle
Sunday, June 25, 2006; B01

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran knows what he wants: nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them; suppression of freedom at home and the spread of terrorism abroad; and the "shattering and fall of the ideology and thoughts of the liberal democratic systems."

President Bush, too, knows what he wants: an irreversible end to Iran's nuclear weapons program, the "expansion of freedom in all the world" and victory in the war on terrorism.

The State Department and its European counterparts know what they want: negotiations.

For more than five years, the administration has dithered. Bush gave soaring speeches, the Iranians issued extravagant threats and, in 2003, the State Department handed the keys to the impasse to the British, French and Germans (the "E.U.-3"), who offered diplomatic valet parking to an administration befuddled by contradiction and indecision. And now, on May 31, the administration offered to join talks with Iran on its nuclear program.

How is it that Bush, who vowed that on his watch "the worst weapons will not fall into the worst hands," has chosen to beat such an ignominious retreat?

Proximity is critical in politics and policy. And the geography of this administration has changed. Condoleezza Rice has moved from the White House to Foggy Bottom, a mere mile or so away. What matters is not that she is further removed from the Oval Office; Rice's influence on the president is undiminished. It is, rather, that she is now in the midst of -- and increasingly represents -- a diplomatic establishment that is driven to accommodate its allies even when (or, it seems, especially when) such allies counsel the appeasement of our adversaries.

The president knows that the Iranians are undermining us in Iraq. He knows that the mullahs are working to sink any prospect of peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians, backing Hamas and its goal of wiping Israel off the map. He knows that for years Iran has concealed and lied about its nuclear weapons program. He knows that Iran leads the world in support for terrorism. And he knows that freedom and liberty in Iran are brutally suppressed.

The president knew all this in 2003 when he learned of Natanz, Arak and other concealed Iranian nuclear facilities. After the International Atomic Energy Agency became aware of Iran's hidden infrastructure in June of that year, we could have referred the matter to the U.N. Security Council and demanded immediate action. But neither our allies nor our diplomats nor the State Department experts assigned to the White House desired confrontation. It would be better, they argued (as always) to buy time, even though diplomatic time for them was weapons-building time for Iran.

So, after declaring that a nuclear Iran was "unacceptable," Bush blinked and authorized the E.U.-3 to approach Tehran with proposals to reward the mullahs if they promised to end their nuclear weapons program.

During these three years, the Iranians have advanced steadily toward acquiring nuclear weapons, defiantly announcing milestones along the way. At the end of May, with Ahmadinejad stridently reiterating Iran's "right" to enrich the uranium necessary for nuclear weapons, the administration blinked again.

The mullahs don't blink -- they glare. Two weeks ago, the secretary of Iran's Expediency Council, dismissing the United States as a paper tiger, said: "Something very important is happening. . . . The Americans are no longer saying that Iran must be deprived of its nuclear rights forever. Iran has accomplished a great thing."

The "great thing" Mohsen Rezai sees is a weakened U.S. position, with Washington backing away from the brave words of the past, and Rice offering to substitute the United States for the E.U.-3. Just last week, Ahmadinejad said that Iran will need nearly three months to respond to our latest offer. (How time flies when you're having fun.)

Twenty years ago, I watched U.S. diplomats conspire with their diffident European counterparts to discourage President Ronald Reagan from a political, economic and moral assault on the Soviet Union aimed at, well, regime change. Well-meaning diplomats pleaded for flexibility at the negotiating table, hoping to steer U.S. policy back toward d?tente. But Reagan knew a slippery slope when he saw one. At the defining moments, he refused the advice of the State Department and intelligence community and earned his place in history.

It is not clear whether Bush recognizes the perils of the course he has been persuaded to take. What has been presented to Ahmadinejad as a simple take-it-or-leave-it deal -- stop the activities that could enable you to acquire nuclear weapons and we will reward you, or continue them and we will punish you -- is nothing of the sort. Neither the activities nor the carrots and sticks are clearly defined or settled with our allies, much less with Russia and China. If the punishments require approval by the U.N. Security Council, the United States would need an unlikely combination of approvals and abstentions from council members. The new policy, undoubtedly pitched to the president as a means of enticing the E.U.-3 to support ending Iran's program, is likely to diminish pressure on Iran and allow the mullahs more time to develop the weapons they have paid dearly to pursue.

No U.S. administration since 1979 has had a serious political strategy regarding Iran. That has been especially evident in the past decade, when the bloom was off the rose of the Islamic revolution, the Revolutionary Guard joined the baby boomers in middle age and the Islamic republic sank into political, economic and social decline. Opponents of the regime have been calling for a referendum on whether to continue as an Islamic theocracy or join the world of modern, secular democracies. They are sure of the outcome.

The failure of successive U.S. administrations, including this one, to give moral and political support to the regime's opponents is a tragedy. Iran is a country of young people, most of whom wish to live in freedom and admire the liberal democracies that Ahmadinejad loathes and fears. The brave men and women among them need, want and deserve our support. They reject the jaundiced view of tired bureaucrats who believe that their cause is hopeless or that U.S. support will worsen their situation.

In his second inaugural address, Bush said, "All who live in tyranny and hopelessness can know: The United States will not ignore your oppression, or excuse your oppressors. When you stand for liberty, we will stand with you."

Iranians were heartened by those words, much as the dissidents of the Soviet Union were heartened by Reagan's "evil empire" speech in 1983. A few days ago, I spoke with Amir Abbas Fakhravar, an Iranian dissident student leader who escaped first from Tehran's notorious Evin prison, then, after months in hiding, from Iran.

Fakhravar heard this president's words, and he took them to heart. But now, as he pleads for help for his fellow citizens, he is apprehensive. He wonders whether the administration's new approach to the mullahs will silence the president's voice, whether the proponents of accommodation with Tehran will regard the struggle for freedom in Iran as an obstacle to their new diplomacy.

Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) tried two weeks ago to pass the Iran Freedom Support Act, which would have increased the administration's too-little-too-late support for democracy and human rights in Iran. But the State Department opposed it, arguing that it "runs counter to our efforts . . . it would limit our diplomatic flexibility."

I hope it is not too late for Fakhravar and his friends. I know it is not too late for us, not too late to give substance to Bush's words, not too late to redeem our honor.

rperle@aei.org

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7713
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Op zondag 25 juni 2006 15:11 schreef MrX1982 het volgende:
De voorgeschiedenis van Nederland - Portugal is niet gunstig voor Nederland. Ik denk dat het moeilijk gaat worden. Ik hoop dat Nederland wint maar het zou me niet verbazen als Portugal wint.
Wat een voetbal inzicht.
  zondag 25 juni 2006 @ 23:10:23 #104
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Op zondag 25 juni 2006 23:09 schreef MrX1982 het volgende:

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Wat een voetbal inzicht.
Het zou je vak maar zijn.
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Op zondag 25 juni 2006 23:10 schreef Finder_elf_towns het volgende:
Het zou je vak maar zijn.
Misschien heb ik een nieuwe roeping gevonden .
  zondag 25 juni 2006 @ 23:13:43 #106
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Freedom or loyalty?
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Op zondag 25 juni 2006 23:04 schreef MrX1982 het volgende:

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Ik denk eerder van Duitsland. Aangezien zij de resultaten hebben en Zwitserland niet echt .

Slaapse .
Nou, de punten van poule G:
Zwitserland 7
Frankrijk 5
Zuid-Korea 4
Togo 0
Laten wat anders zien. Plus dat ik nog nooit zo mooi, snel, en toch netjes voetbal als Zwitserland gezien heb. Ook nooit zeuren als ze een gele kaart krijgen ofzo, een héél verschil. Wonderbaarlijk eigenlijk. Maarja, dat zei ik al eerder.

Ik ga die 1/8 finale van ze zéker kijken.
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Ja Zwitserland - Oekraïne, kan wel een leuke wedstrijd worden.
  zondag 25 juni 2006 @ 23:19:45 #108
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Dhaka - Tension was mounting in a northern suburb of the Bangladesh capital Dhaka Saturday after an Islamic militant group threatened to blow up a mosque of members of the minority Ahmadiya Muslim sect, officials said.

The Sunni Islamic group Khatme Nabuyut Movement called a 48-hour strike in the capital city's Uttara suburb following fierce clashes between riot police and Islamic militants marching on the Ahmadiya mosque in a bid to capture it.

'The Ahmadiyas are kafirs (non-believers) and must be declared non-Muslims by the government,' Noor Hossain Nurani, a senior member of the anti-Ahmadiya movement, told a gathering of an estimated 1,000 activists before an overnight attempt to seize the mosque.

Nurani warned the government that his supporters would destroy the heavily guarded mosque if the Ahmadiyas were not officially declared non-Muslims by Sunday.

Religious differences between the overwhelming Sunni majority and the Ahmadiyas (also known as the Qadiyanis) over the status of Islam's Prophet Mohammed have triggered violent attacks on the minority sect's worshipping sites and other property across Bangladesh.

On Friday, police used batons and teargas to protect the Masjid-e-Baitul Huda, the Ahmadiya mosque under siege in Uttara suburb, from suspected Sunni attackers who had also smashed vehicles and blocked access roads to the nearby international airport.

The overnight clashes left at least 15 people critically wounded and road transport disrupted for hours, witnesses said.

The 48-hour shutdown in the area was expected to begin from early Sunday, Nurani said.

There are about a quarter of a million Ahmadiyas in Bangladesh which has a population of 130 million dominated by Sunni Muslims.
http://news.monstersandcr(...)aten_Ahmadiya_mosque

Goed, nu weten we ook hoeveel waarde we moeten hechten aan Beatrix' bezoek aan een vergelijkbare moskee: helemaal niets.
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Tjemig...ik heb me wel vermaakt hoor.
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Jack is trouwens helemaal tekeer gegaan. Gelijk een wild beest.
  zondag 25 juni 2006 @ 23:39:10 #111
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Op zondag 25 juni 2006 23:30 schreef Autodidact het volgende:
Jack is trouwens helemaal tekeer gegaan. Gelijk een wild beest.
hij is de anti-grist
Ingenieur in de ornithologische huisvesting <- Urbanus :P
Good ol' Buck : http://youtube.com/watch?v=VmxXIS2ot8w <- Fun
N.W.O : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOeCpMwZo6o <- Pol
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Wat een poepwedstrijd.
Allah Al Watan Al Malik
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Tegen wie moeten we nu?
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Op zondag 25 juni 2006 23:44 schreef HenriOsewoudt het volgende:
Tegen wie moeten we nu?
Tegen de geesten.
Allah Al Watan Al Malik
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Dat kunnen we wel winnen denk ik.
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'T is allemaal de schuld van de overheid
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Tsja, misschien waren WimLex en Balkenende er wel.
  zondag 25 juni 2006 @ 23:55:46 #118
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De Euro. Mislukt vanaf dag 1.
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20 gele kaarten
Allah Al Watan Al Malik
  maandag 26 juni 2006 @ 00:05:54 #120
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De Euro. Mislukt vanaf dag 1.
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Nederland tolerant vooral na een verloren wedstrijd .
  maandag 26 juni 2006 @ 00:30:34 #123
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Op maandag 26 juni 2006 00:26 schreef MrX1982 het volgende:
Nederland tolerant vooral na een verloren wedstrijd .
Welke Balkenende verdient de schuld, denk je?
Ingenieur in de ornithologische huisvesting <- Urbanus :P
Good ol' Buck : http://youtube.com/watch?v=VmxXIS2ot8w <- Fun
N.W.O : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOeCpMwZo6o <- Pol
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Op maandag 26 juni 2006 00:00 schreef WEST het volgende:

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eerlijk?

Figo moeten ze gaan stroppen in GTST daar kan hij mischien nog wel een bijrol in doen Figo moet niet in nederland komen net als de rest van die portugezen ze krijgen 1 voor 1 de kogel
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Op maandag 26 juni 2006 00:04 schreef Aequabilitas het volgende:
Vies goor kutvolk!
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Op maandag 26 juni 2006 00:23 schreef OFfSprngr het volgende:
Vuile kankerhond.
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Op maandag 26 juni 2006 00:25 schreef DarKZeN het volgende:
laf kutportugal,
hopen dat engeland ze inmaakt de volgende ronde
chr. ronaldo is een huilie en die figo is een smerige kkhond
Voor de rest de threads en reacties spreken verder voor zich .
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Op maandag 26 juni 2006 00:30 schreef Harry_Sack het volgende:
Welke Balkenende verdient de schuld, denk je?
Ik denk dat hij er nog een campagne waarden en normen tegen aan moet gooien.
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