Roadmap to war against Iran #04

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Op donderdag 20 april 2006 10:45 schreef RuL0R het volgende:

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Iran heeft 40.000 zelfmoordterroristen klaarstaan om doelen in "het Westen" aan te vallen als de VS Iran aanvalt. Goeie kans dat Frankrijk (en wij) daar dan ook het slachtoffer van zouden worden en terugmeppen met kernwapens zou ik misschien ook doen.
Zo heel ver weg is het dus misschien niet.

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Op donderdag 20 april 2006 11:48 schreef MrX1982 het volgende:

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Chirac kan niet eens de eigen bevolking onder de duim houden en ze zwichten voor wat stakende studenten. Als je van een land geen spierenballen hoeft te verwachten is het wel Frankrijk. Die zwaaien al met de witte vlag voordat er een schot is gelost.

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737 tt-EEN 737 do 20 apr 14:31:41

NIEUWS
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STRENGE KLEDINGVOORSCHRIFTEN IN IRAN

Wie in Iran slordig omspringt met de
islamitische kledingvoorschriften ris-
keert een boete van 60 euro of een cel-
straf van 2 maanden.

De nieuwe wet wil mensen bestraffen die
"de sociale omgeving onzeker maken" Ook
mannen met een 'vreemd' kapsel kunnen
bestraft worden.

Loszittend sjaals of strakkere mantels
in vrolijke kleuren waren de laatste
jaren steeds meer ingeburgerd bij mode-
bewuste Iraanse vrouwen. Het huidige
regime wil daar komaf mee maken.

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Op donderdag 20 april 2006 19:26 schreef Yildiz het volgende:

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Was het niet 'gewoon' een hittezoekende raket afgeschoten door een boer?

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Op donderdag 20 april 2006 23:17 schreef Evil_Jur het volgende:
Kom op, een land waar verkrachte vrouwen gestenigd worden, vertrouwen met kernwapens? Daar heb ik geen onderzoek voor nodig.

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Op donderdag 20 april 2006 23:24 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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Maar dit is ook weer niet echt waar. Wat betreft militairisme en bereidheid het land, of landgenoten, te verdedigen met alle mogelijke middelen als men van mening is dat er een dreiging is, staan Frankrijk en de Verenigde Staten vrijwel op gelijke voet. Ook met betrekking tot andere zaken, natuurlijk.

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Op donderdag 20 april 2006 23:18 schreef Yildiz het volgende:

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Spiegel.

Kom op, een land waar mensen zonder aanklacht 4 jaar vastzitten, vertrouwen met kernwapens?
Daar heb ik geen onderzoek voor nodig.

ontopic: die argumenten als 'boehoe ze martelen mensen, ze hangen homo's op' en dat soort dingen heb ik al eerder onderuit gehaald. Kortweg: op die manier kan je wel 150 landen aan gaan vallen.

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Op donderdag 20 april 2006 23:36 schreef icecreamfarmer_NL het volgende:

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ik denk dat de fransen zelfs een stuk verder gaan.

een of ander afrikaans land had hun vredestroepen gebombardeerd binnen het half uur bestond heel die luchtmacht niet meer.

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Op donderdag 20 april 2006 21:53 schreef Vow het volgende:
U.S. to Send One Troop to Iran

-knip-

TruthDig

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Op donderdag 20 april 2006 17:13 schreef sp3c het volgende:
ja slimmer zou idd zijn om niet al te veel aandacht op je te vestigen want geen van de landen heeft echt veel interesse in ze

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Iran sanctions 'depend on proof'

Russia has ruled out sanctions against Iran unless there is proof that its nuclear programme is not peaceful.

Mikhail Kamynin of the foreign ministry said Russia must see "concrete facts" proving Iran's non-peaceful activities.

The US has been trying to rally support from UN Security Council members like Russia for tougher action against Iran.

The UN says there is so far no proof that Iran is seeking nuclear weapons - as suspected in the West - but nor has Iran proved that it is not.

"Sanctions can be discussed only when there are concrete facts showing that Tehran's nuclear activity is not exclusively peaceful," Mr Kamynin said in Moscow.

"At the present time, the concerns of the international community over the Iranian nuclear program cannot be eased through sanctions and use of force."

The UN Security Council is waiting on a report from Mohamed ElBaradei, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), assessing Iran's nuclear activities, before deciding its next move.

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The Sunday Telegraph
By Amir Taheri

Last Monday, just before he announced that Iran had gatecrashed "the nuclear club", President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad disappeared for several hours. He was having a khalvat (tête-à-tête) with the Hidden Imam, the 12th and last of the imams of Shiism who went into "grand occultation" in 941.

According to Shia lore, the Imam is a messianic figure who, although in hiding, remains the true Sovereign of the World. In every generation, the Imam chooses 36 men, (and, for obvious reasons, no women) naming them the owtad or "nails", whose presence, hammered into mankind's existence, prevents the universe from "falling off". Although the "nails" are not known to common mortals, it is, at times, possible to identify one thanks to his deeds. It is on that basis that some of Ahmad-inejad's more passionate admirers insist that he is a "nail", a claim he has not discouraged. For example, he has claimed that last September, as he addressed the United Nations' General Assembly in New York, the "Hidden Imam drenched the place in a sweet light".

Last year, it was after another khalvat that Ahmadinejad announced his intention to stand for president. Now, he boasts that the Imam gave him the presidency for a single task: provoking a "clash of civilisations" in which the Muslim world, led by Iran, takes on the "infidel" West, led by the United States, and defeats it in a slow but prolonged contest that, in military jargon, sounds like a low intensity, asymmetrical war.

In Ahmadinejad's analysis, the rising Islamic "superpower" has decisive advantages over the infidel. Islam has four times as many young men of fighting age as the West, with its ageing populations. Hundreds of millions of Muslim "ghazis" (holy raiders) are keen to become martyrs while the infidel youths, loving life and fearing death, hate to fight. Islam also has four-fifths of the world's oil reserves, and so controls the lifeblood of the infidel. More importantly, the US, the only infidel power still capable of fighting, is hated by most other nations.

According to this analysis, spelled out in commentaries by Ahmadinejad's strategic guru, Hassan Abassi, known as the "Dr Kissinger of Islam", President George W Bush is an aberration, an exception to a rule under which all American presidents since Truman, when faced with serious setbacks abroad, have "run away". Iran's current strategy, therefore, is to wait Bush out. And that, by "divine coincidence", corresponds to the time Iran needs to develop its nuclear arsenal, thus matching the only advantage that the infidel enjoys.

Moments after Ahmadinejad announced "the atomic miracle", the head of the Iranian nuclear project, Ghulamreza Aghazadeh, unveiled plans for manufacturing 54,000 centrifuges, to enrich enough uranium for hundreds of nuclear warheads. "We are going into mass production," he boasted.

The Iranian plan is simple: playing the diplomatic game for another two years until Bush becomes a "lame-duck", unable to take military action against the mullahs, while continuing to develop nuclear weapons.

Thus do not be surprised if, by the end of the 12 days still left of the United Nations' Security Council "deadline", Ahmadinejad announces a "temporary suspension" of uranium enrichment as a "confidence building measure". Also, don't be surprised if some time in June he agrees to ask the Majlis (the Islamic parliament) to consider signing the additional protocols of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT).

Such manoeuvres would allow the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) director, Muhammad El-Baradei, and Britain's Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, to congratulate Iran for its "positive gestures" and denounce talk of sanctions, let alone military action. The confidence building measures would never amount to anything, but their announcement would be enough to prevent the G8 summit, hosted by Russia in July, from moving against Iran.

While waiting Bush out, the Islamic Republic is intent on doing all it can to consolidate its gains in the region. Regime changes in Kabul and Baghdad have altered the status quo in the Middle East. While Bush is determined to create a Middle East that is democratic and pro-Western, Ahmadinejad is equally determined that the region should remain Islamic but pro-Iranian. Iran is now the strongest presence in Afghanistan and Iraq, after the US. It has turned Syria and Lebanon into its outer defences, which means that, for the first time since the 7th century, Iran is militarily present on the coast of the Mediterranean. In a massive political jamboree in Teheran last week, Ahmadinejad also assumed control of the "Jerusalem Cause", which includes annihilating Israel "in one storm", while launching a take-over bid for the cash-starved Hamas government in the West Bank and Gaza.

Ahmadinejad has also reactivated Iran's network of Shia organisations in Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Yemen, while resuming contact with Sunni fundamentalist groups in Turkey, Egypt, Algeria and Morocco. From childhood, Shia boys are told to cultivate two qualities. The first is entezar, the capacity patiently to wait for the Imam to return. The second is taajil, the actions needed to hasten the return. For the Imam's return will coincide with an apocalyptic battle between the forces of evil and righteousness, with evil ultimately routed. If the infidel loses its nuclear advantage, it could be worn down in a long, low-intensity war at the end of which surrender to Islam would appear the least bad of options. And that could be a signal for the Imam to reappear.

At the same time, not to forget the task of hastening the Mahdi's second coming, Ahamdinejad will pursue his provocations. On Monday, he was as candid as ever: "To those who are angry with us, we have one thing to say: be angry until you die of anger!"

His adviser, Hassan Abassi, is rather more eloquent. "The Americans are impatient," he says, "at the first sight of a setback, they run away. We, however, know how to be patient. We have been weaving carpets for thousands of years."

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 11:03 schreef Finder_elf_towns het volgende:
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6785
Het hele artikel spreekt wel voor zichzelf.

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 11:50 schreef Finder_elf_towns het volgende:
Echt iets "nieuws" wordt er ook niet in vermeld. Echter er lopen hier nogal wat figuren rond die menen dat Iran "peaceful intentions" heeft met zijn nucleare programma. Dat is natuurlijk niet zo, maar echt doordringen doen tegenargumenten tegen deze naieve houding niet (zoals gebruikelijk bij naieve mensen, maar goed).

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De terugkomst van de 12de imam (en het bijkomstige geweld) is bijna de samenvatting van de sjiitische stroming. Sommigen echter schijnen dat niet te willen geloven. Naar hun motieven kunnen we alleen maar raden, al heb ik natuurlijk wel een vaag idee.

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 11:52 schreef Drugshond het volgende:

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Wel heel erg bones & skulls achtig, of ben ik nu gek.

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FEATURE-China's nuclear dreams clouded by cost, waste
Bron : Reuters

By John Ruwitch

DAYA BAY, China, April 21 (Reuters) - Look away from the four giant nuclear reactors, and Daya Bay's manicured lawns, golf range and ocean-front apartments seem like the trappings of a luxury south China housing enclave.

Just 50 km (30 miles) from the heart of Hong Kong as the crow flies, they form a ring around one of the oldest fission-powered electricity plants in China, a template for success in an industry launching one of the most ambitious expansion drives in the world.

China's leaders think nuclear power offers a partial remedy for ills ranging from the pall of smog hanging over its cities to a growing addiction to foreign oil.

But analysts and environmentalists warn a range of challenges, from waste disposal to the daunting price tag on new generators, could give the energy cure a bitter taste.

Beijing began commercial nuclear generation late, after devoting resources and scientists to weapons development during Mao Zedong's rule. The country's first atomic bomb exploded in 1964 but civilian reactors only came online in the 1990s.

It is now racing to catch up and to meet booming energy demand with plans to more than quadruple capacity by 2020 and work on a new technology that scientists tout as accident-proof.

At present, nine reactors contribute barely 2 percent of the nation's power -- just one eighth of the global average. The target is to raise this to 40 gigawatts, or 4 percent over the next 15 years by building 30 new reactors.

"China started late, but to build two major reactors a year is a very ambitious programme and I don't think anyone has ever attempted that," said Clarence Hardy, vice-president of the Pacific Nuclear Council.

REACTOR MIX

China has what is probably the largest variety of nuclear technologies within a single nation's borders. It has used Canadian, French and Russian designs and is considering signing up for a U.S. one, as well as supporting home-grown technology.

"It was a deliberate, not accidental, mix and it probably was a good strategy as it keeps them up to speed on what is going on worldwide," said Beijing-based energy analyst James Brock.

Besides cherry-picking the best international technology, Chinese scientists believe they may have found a way to lay to rest the ghost of the 1986 Chernobyl explosion, which still haunts the industry.

The pebble bed reactor being developed at Tsinghua University is meltdown-proof, said scientist Wu Zongxin, who has worked on the project for over two decades.

It uses fuel "pebbles" -- roughly the size of tennis balls and wrapped in graphite with a higher melting point than the uranium inside -- to prevent runaway reactions, he explained.

"It is impossible that the nuclear fuel could melt ... the passive safety mechanism does not rely on humans to control the temperature," Wu told Reuters.

A 10-megawatt test reactor is on-line near Beijing and work starts on a demonstration plant in Shandong in 2008, he said.

Chinese power developers are also pursuing designs that use less uranium. As nations trying to cut pollution take another look at nuclear power, world uranium prices have risen, more than tripling since 2004.

Despite the new research, China's government may struggle to persuade listed utilities to help fund the nuclear expansion.

Although nuclear plants are cheap to run, with low exposure to fuel costs particularly valuable as oil and gas prices rise, they are very expensive to build.

"I do not think Chinese power producers are going to rush into nuclear power because it's the 'in' thing," said Joseph Jacobelli, utilities analyst at Merrill Lynch in Hong Kong.

"For a 2-gigawatt power plant, you have costs of around $3 billion and all of that is front-loaded. They will want a high level of guarantees," he added.


WASTE, MONITORING CONCERNS

Rigorous safety procedures copied from the designers have given China a solid record so far despite the variety of reactors it uses. A single operating company, China National Nuclear Corporation, helps unify safety plans.

But if something does go wrong and officials are tempted to cover up, there may be no one to call them to account in a society that brooks limited dissent from central control.

"Civil society safeguards -- press freedom, whistleblower protection, human rights laws -- form a more amorphous layer of protections which are largely absent in China," said Jim Green, nuclear campaigner from Friends of the Earth in Australia.

Disposing of the over 1,000 tonnes a year of radioactive waste that the expansion could produce, according to the World Nuclear Association, is another minefield.

There are plans to expand a small facility in western Gansu province to deal with much of the spent fuel, but Green says details are opaque and, with concern over environmental issues growing in wealthier east coast areas, poorer areas may be forced to host their nuclear waste.

"We are concerned that politically less powerful groups like Tibetans and people in northwest China are going to be targeted (for waste disposal facilities)," Green said. (Additional reporting by Emma Graham-Harrison in Beijing)

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 11:50 schreef Finder_elf_towns het volgende:
Echt iets "nieuws" wordt er ook niet in vermeld. Echter er lopen hier nogal wat figuren rond die menen dat Iran "peaceful intentions" heeft met zijn nucleare programma. Dat is natuurlijk niet zo, maar echt doordringen doen tegenargumenten tegen deze naieve houding niet (zoals gebruikelijk bij naieve mensen, maar goed). De terugkomst van de 12de imam (en het bijkomstige geweld) is bijna de samenvatting van de sjiitische stroming. Sommigen echter schijnen dat niet te willen geloven. Naar hun motieven kunnen we alleen maar raden, al heb ik natuurlijk wel een vaag idee.

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 13:18 schreef 6833-228 het volgende:
Wie is er hier nu naief ?? Je had eerst eens moeten nagaan wie het geschreven heeft. Tahiri en zijn Benador Associates zijn leugenaars van de bovenste plank.