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Osama bin Laden verklaart achter de 9/11 aanslagen te zitten:
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Bin Laden: Yes, I did it
By David Bamber
(Filed: 11/11/2001)


OSAMA BIN LADEN has for the first time admitted that his al-Qa'eda group carried out the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon, the Telegraph can reveal.


Osama bin Laden with journalist Hamid Mir during the interview for a Pakistani newspaper

In a previously undisclosed video which has been circulating for 14 days among his supporters, he confesses that "history should be a witness that we are terrorists. Yes, we kill their innocents".

In the footage, shot in the Afghan mountains at the end of October, a smiling bin Laden goes on to say that the World Trade Centre's twin towers were a "legitimate target" and the pilots who hijacked the planes were "blessed by Allah".

The killing of at least 4,537 people was justified, he claims, because they were "not civilians" but were working for the American system.

Bin Laden also makes a direct personal threat against Tony Blair, the Prime Minister, for the first time, and warns nations such as Australia, Germany and Japan to stay out of the conflict.

The video will form the centrepiece of Britain and America's new evidence against bin Laden, to be released this Wednesday.

The footage, to which the Telegraph obtained access in the Middle East yesterday, was not made for public release via the al-Jazeera television network used by bin Laden for propaganda purposes in the past. It is believed to be intended as a rallying call to al-Qa'eda members.

In the video, bin Laden says: "The Twin Towers were legitimate targets, they were supporting US economic power. These events were great by all measurement. What was destroyed were not only the towers, but the towers of morale in that country."

The hijackers were "blessed by Allah to destroy America's economic and military landmarks". He freely admits to being behind the attacks: "If avenging the killing of our people is terrorism then history should be a witness that we are terrorists. Yes, we kill their innocents and this is legal religiously and logically."

In a contradictory section, however, bin Laden justifies killing the occupants of the Twin Towers because they were not civilians - Islam forbids the killing of innocent civilians even in a holy war.

He says: "The towers were supposed to be filled with supporters of the economical powers of the United States who are abusing the world. Those who talk about civilians should change their stand and reconsider their position. We are treating them like they treated us."

Bin Laden goes on to justify his entire terror campaign. "There are two types of terror, good and bad. What we are practising is good terror. We will not stop killing them and whoever supports them."

He directly threatens the lives of President Bush and Mr Blair. "Bush and Blair don't understand anything but the power of force. Every time they kill us, we kill them, so the balance of terror can be achieved." He also calls on all Muslims to join him. "It is the duty of every Muslim to fight. Killing Jews is top priority."

Bin Laden warns other nations to keep out of the conflict, implying that they could face terror attacks if they do not.

In the video, he also claims responsibility for an unspecified terrorist outrage in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, which he claims was sparked by secret messages in one of his videos.

He admits for the first time using public pronouncements on video to whip up terrorism - a danger about which the British and American governments have warned broadcasters.

It is significant that throughout the video he uses the personal pronouns "I" and "we" to claim responsibility for the attacks. In the past, he has spoken of the attackers only in the third person.

Bin Laden has publicly issued four previous videos since September 11, always denying carrying out the atrocities.

He now claims to have access to nuclear and chemical weapons. Bin Laden made the claims on Friday night during an interview with the English language Pakistani newspaper Dawn.

He said: "If America used chemical or nuclear weapons against us, then we may retort with chemical and nuclear weapons. We have the weapons as deterrent."

Defence analysts dismissed these claims. They said that although bin Laden could have access to nuclear material through links with Pakistan or former Soviet republics, he was unlikely to have the technology to cause an explosion.

A Foreign Office spokesman said: "We know that he was looking for that capability. We believe he does not have it."

Emergency powers to imprison suspected international terrorists indefinitely using special closed courts will be announced this week. The measure, which will require exemption from human rights legislation, will be used to round up about 20 suspects hiding in Britain beyond the reach of existing laws.
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/11/11/wbin11.xml
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  dinsdag 21 maart 2006 @ 22:08:00 #77
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Op dinsdag 21 maart 2006 21:59 schreef ..-._---_-.- het volgende:

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Lees je wel?
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Ik wíst dat die langs zou komen...




FEIT:

The following cut-away view of a turbofan engine similar to the ones used on 757s shows how much the diameters of the various parts differ. The high-pressure compressor and turbine rotors are only about one-third the approximately 8-foot diameter of the fan.

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Verstevingen rondom ramen bij het pentagon wegen 730 kilo.
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Steel beams reinforce the walls around the new blast resistant units on the A and E-rings. Each window unit weighs approximately 1,600 pounds. The geo-technical material covering the wall between the steel beams acts as a giant "catcher's mitt" in the event of an explosion, preventing debris from injury the occupants of the room.
http://renovation.pentagon.mil/image-pg/image-W1blastwindows.htm
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Op dinsdag 21 maart 2006 22:08 schreef Oversight het volgende:

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Ik wíst dat die langs zou komen...



FEIT:

The following cut-away view of a turbofan engine similar to the ones used on 757s shows how much the diameters of the various parts differ. The high-pressure compressor and turbine rotors are only about one-third the approximately 8-foot diameter of the fan.

[afbeelding]
Precies, dat laat zien dat de brokstukken onderdelen zijn van de motor welke een stuk kleiner zijn dan de buitenste ring van de buitenkant van de motor. Het is een 757 motor wat daar in het puin ligt.
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Op dinsdag 21 maart 2006 22:08 schreef Oversight het volgende:

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Ik wíst dat die langs zou komen...

Rot ff op met die infantiele smileys. Het is echt alsof ik aan het discussieren ben met iemand die me continu uitlacht en af en toe zijn middelvinger opsteekt. Minachtend, zo komt het over.
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The following cut-away view of a turbofan engine similar to the ones used on 757s shows how much the diameters of the various parts differ. The high-pressure compressor and turbine rotors are only about one-third the approximately 8-foot diameter of the fan.

[afbeelding]
Nou dan klopt dat dus prima met de fotos van het materiaal dat bij het pentagon gevonden is.
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184 van de 189 personen die omkwamen bij de pentagon aanval zijn geidentificeerd. 125 personen werkten in het pentagon, 64 passagiers van het vliegtuig:
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What some experts have called "the most comprehensive forensic investigation in U.S. history" ended Nov. 16 with the identification of 184 of the 189 who died in the terrorist attack on the Pentagon.

A multidisciplinary team of more than 50 forensic specialists, scientists, and support personnel from the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, with headquarters at Walter Reed, played a major role in Operation Noble Eagle investigations, officials said.

Many of the casualties were badly burned and difficult to identify, an official said. Of the 189 killed, 125 worked at the Pentagon and 64 were passengers on American Airlines Flight 77. Only one of those who died made it to the hospital. The rest were killed on site, and for some, only pieces of tissue could be found.

AFIP's team of forensic pathologists, odontologists, a forensic anthropologist, DNA experts, investigators, and support personnel worked for over two weeks in the mortuary at Dover Air Force Base, Del., and for weeks at the DNA lab in Rockville, to identify the victims of the attack.

"Our staff represented every branch of the service," said AFIP Director Navy Capt. Glenn N. Wagner. "We also received tremendous support from the doctors, nurses, and technicians stationed at Dover who participated in the investigation."

The investigation mobilized AFIP assets in many ways. In the hours following the crash Sept. 11, the acting armed forces medical examiner, Air Force Col. AbuBakr Marzouk, worked with FBI and local Virginia law enforcement officials to create a plan for recovering and identifying the victims.

At the same time, personnel from the Office of the Armed Forces Medical Examiner positioned and staged equipment to begin operations at Dover. Air Force Maj. Bruce Ensign served as AFIP's team leader at the site.

"We immediately called in regional medical examiners from as far away as San Diego to participate," Ensign said. A total of 12 forensic pathologists, assisted by two AFIP staff pathologists, headed the investigation team. Also arriving at Dover during those early critical hours were two other key AFIP groups: forensic scientists from OAFME's Armed Forces DNA Identification Laboratory and oral pathologists from the Department of Oral and Maxillofacial Pathology.

AFDIL scientists ensured data systems and records were available to make DNA identifications, while the oral pathology group created a triage area to conduct positive dental identifications. Contacts were also made with family services in each branch of the military to obtain ante-mortem information and reference material. Mortuary operations were fully underway by the evening of Sept. 13. AFIP used a well-defined and tested system for conducting the identifications of the Pentagon victims. When remains arrived at the morgue, a scanning device searched for the presence of unexploded ordnance or metallic foreign bodies. A computerized tracking system assigned numbers to each victim for efficient tracking.

FBI experts collected trace evidence to search for chemicals from explosive devices and conducted fingerprint identifications. Forensic dentistry experts from the Department of Oral and Maxillofacial Pathology performed dental charting and comparison with ante-mortem dental records. Full-body radiographs followed to document skeletal fractures and assist in the identification process, followed by autopsy inspection.

At autopsy, forensic pathologists determined the cause and manner of death, aided by forensic anthropologist Dr. William C. Rodriguez in determining the race, sex, and stature of victims. A board-certified epidemiologist managed the tracking system for data collected during the autopsy process, and tissue samples were collected for DNA identification and further toxicology studies. Forensic photographers, essential to any forensic investigation, documented injuries and personal effects. Mortuary specialists then embalmed, dressed, and casketed remains prior to release to next-of-kin.

For eight days a full complement of AFIP forensic specialists worked 12-hour shifts to complete the operation.

"This is the largest mass fatality we've dealt with in recent years," Ensign said. "We have modalities today that we didn't have before. Our investigation was much more technology-intensive." Ensign noted the entire team worked well together. "Because of the combined effort of all three services and the FBI, we were very pleased with the speed of the identification process. Essential records and references were submitted to us in a timely way."

Logistical help from AFIP also played an important role. "We had tremendous logistical issues obtaining equipment, especially with additional demands in New York City and Somerset County, Pa.," he said. "Fortunately our logistical support was terrific in helping us get material in." The Dover mortuary sent specimens back to the Armed Forces DNA Identification Laboratory in Rockville.

Teams of forensic scientists, under the direction of Demris Lee, technical leader of the Nuclear DNA Section, took over the difficult chore of generating a DNA profile of the victims. Their work included not only the Pentagon crash victims, but the victims of the Somerset County crash as well. Every one of the organization's 102 DNA analysts, sample processors, logistics staff, and administrative personnel were involved -- from collecting, tracking, analyzing DNA samples, and gathering and logging DNA reference material to preparing DNA reports. For 18 days following the terrorist attacks, AFDIL employees worked on 12-hour shifts, seven days a week to meet the mission requirements
http://www.dcmilitary.com(...)al_news/12279-1.html
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Flight 77:
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The story of Flight 77 - pieced together from government records, news reports and interviews with military and civilian officials - suggests that faulty communications among agencies, delays in some key actions and weaknesses in military preparedness all figured in the way the disaster unfolded. Many of the questions center on two phases of the crisis that involved Flight 77:

About 8:55 a.m. Flight 77 was flying west over southern Ohio when it abruptly turned and headed back toward Washington. At this time, the Federal Aviation Administration already had notified the military that two other airliners, the ones that struck the World Trade Center, apparently had been hijacked and had veered from their expected courses.

But the FAA temporarily lost track of Flight 77, after the terrorists turned off its transponder, and about 29 minutes went by before the FAA alerted the military to the new threat from the airliner, which was carrying Al-Midhar, Al-Hamzi and three other hijackers. No attempt was made to evacuate the Pentagon before the plane struck it. The crash killed 125 people in the Pentagon and all 64 people on the plane.

Twice during the crisis, the military launched fighter jets that raced toward the hijacked planes. Two F-15 fighters raced toward New York City; two F-16s sped toward Washington.

But the number of air bases where fighter planes are kept on alert has dwindled sharply in recent years, one of the generals who runs the system told Newsday. And on Sept. 11, they no longer included any bases close to two obvious terrorist targets - Washington, D.C., and New York City.

So the military had to use planes from air bases considerable distances away from the two cities. The fighters dispatched to New York came from Otis Air National Guard Base on Cape Cod, Mass., 153 miles from the World Trade Center.

When the second tower of the World Trade Center was struck by a hijacked airliner, United Airlines Flight 175, at 9:02 a.m., the planes from Cape Cod were still 71 miles away, about eight minutes behind the terrorists.

The fighter jets launched toward Washington took off not from Andrews Air Force Base, 15 miles from the capital, but from Langley Air Force Base near Hampton, Va., 130 miles from Washington. When Flight 77 smashed into the Pentagon at 9:37 a.m., those fighters were still 105 miles from the scene.

At that point, the fourth hijacked plane, United Airlines Flight 93, also had turned around on its way to San Francisco and headed toward Washington. It crashed in Pennsylvania at 10:03 a.m. after passengers reportedly fought with hijackers.

Vice President Dick Cheney has disclosed that President George W. Bush authorized military jets to shoot down "as a last resort" a hijacked airliner, apparently Flight 93, that was heading for Washington. Officials said later that the decision wasn't made until after Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon.

These are some of the questions about the government's handling of the crisis and the circumstances surrounding them:

Did critical information get from the FAA to the military quickly enough? The record suggests that teenagers on instant-message networks communicate faster than some federal officials did during the crisis. After losing track of Flight 77 for about 10 minutes, the FAA rediscovered the plane heading east over West Virginia, then took about 19 more minutes to alert the military. When Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, the fighter jets from Langley were 12 minutes away, the military says.

Should terrorists be able to shut off an airliner's transponders? That's what happened on Flight 77. Transponders send out a signal giving a plane's position and identity. The simple action of turning them off appears to have given the Flight 77 terrorists about 10 minutes of valuable invisibility as they sped toward Washington. Although officials say transponders need an on-off switch for fire-safety reasons, one aviation expert told Newsday that a simple modification could alert air traffic controllers whenever a specific transponder is shut off. That would alert them that there might be a problem and give them a better chance to continue tracking the plane with radar, he said.
http://www.newsday.com/ny-uspent232380681sep23.story
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  maandag 27 maart 2006 @ 17:37:08 #83
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Feit: vliegtuig neemt een aanloopje, vliegt het pentagon binnen, mooi klein rond gaatje, eerste ring no problem, 2e ring ook doorheen, 3e ring naar buiten, weer een mooi klein rond gaatje. Dan vol op de rem want de 4e ring is onbeschadigd.
3 ringen zijn zes muren van zo'n 25 cm dik, wellicht nog 2 dwarse muren als je de plaatjes bekijkt.
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/

Om die laatste muur te doorboren moet er volgens mij toch nog aardig wat "vliegtuig" of massa over zijn.
de volgende muur van ring 4 is intact, dan moet er op het binnenplaatsje tussen ring 3 en 4 toch een gigantische berg vliegtuig liggen??

Wie kan proberen te verklaren waarom dit niet zo is???
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Op maandag 27 maart 2006 17:37 schreef Nightwulf het volgende:
Feit: vliegtuig neemt een aanloopje, vliegt het pentagon binnen, mooi klein rond gaatje, eerste ring no problem, 2e ring ook doorheen, 3e ring naar buiten, weer een mooi klein rond gaatje. Dan vol op de rem want de 4e ring is onbeschadigd.
3 ringen zijn zes muren van zo'n 25 cm dik, wellicht nog 2 dwarse muren als je de plaatjes bekijkt.
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/

Om die laatste muur te doorboren moet er volgens mij toch nog aardig wat "vliegtuig" of massa over zijn.
de volgende muur van ring 4 is intact, dan moet er op het binnenplaatsje tussen ring 3 en 4 toch een gigantische berg vliegtuig liggen??

Wie kan proberen te verklaren waarom dit niet zo is???
Remember de crash van de bommenwerper tegen het empire state building? bij die crash gebeurde dit
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One of the engines and part of the landing gear hurtled across the 79th floor, through wall partitions and two fire walls, and out the south wall's windows to fall onto a twelve-story building across 33rd Street. The other engine flew into an elevator shaft and landed on an elevator car. The car began to plummet, slowed somewhat by emergency safety devices. Miraculously, when help arrived at the remains of the elevator car in the basement, the two women inside the car were still alive.
http://history1900s.about.com/od/1940s/a/empirecrash.htm

Je moet de snelheid van het vliegtuig en de onderdelen die na een crash loskomen niet onderschatten. Overigens je opmerking dat er een mooi klein rond gaatje is ontstaan na de crash van het vliegtuig op het pentagon klopt niet. Kijk de diverse foto's na en zie dat er voor de instorting flinke schade was aan het gebouw.
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  maandag 27 maart 2006 @ 22:49:42 #85
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klein rond gaatje is wat overdreven, maar als je hier kijkt is er welliswaar schade te zien, maar het GAT vind ik klein als je bedenkt dat er een 757 is binnengevlogen
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Op maandag 27 maart 2006 22:49 schreef Nightwulf het volgende:
klein rond gaatje is wat overdreven, maar als je hier kijkt is er welliswaar schade te zien, maar het GAT vind ik klein als je bedenkt dat er een 757 is binnengevlogen
Die computertekeningen zien er volgens mij net even iets te gelikt uit.

Kijk je bv naar deze 2 foto's, dan zie je op de eerste foto dat er ongeveer ter hoogte van die 3 brandweermannen een enorm gat is geslagen. Het dak is er zelfs van scheef komen te zitten:
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/6.jpg
De vleugels hebben aanzienljik minder schade aangericht, de romp van het vliegtuig daarentegen heeft flinke schade aangericht aan het gebouw.

Op deze 2de foto van na de instorting kun je links en rechts de schade zien die de vleugels hebben aangericht:
http://www.wtc-terrorattack.com/pentagon_crash07.jpg
  maandag 1 mei 2006 @ 23:18:02 #87
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okee

laten we stellen dat er iets anders dan een boeing 757 is binnengevlogen

waar is die boeing waarvan wordt gedacht dat hij het pentagon is binnengevlogen als hij dat niet heeft gedaan?

is die dan spoorloos verdwenen? en de inzittende? zo een ding heeft toch een speciale reisnummers en wordt toch wel goed gevolgd?

ik overigens geen voorstander van voor of tegen..

stel alleen een vraag
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  dinsdag 16 mei 2006 @ 19:25:42 #88
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"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

[Stephen Roberts]
  dinsdag 16 mei 2006 @ 19:52:13 #89
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The Department of Defense will today release a videotape showing American Flight 77 striking the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, RAW STORY has learned

The group Judicial Watch originally filed a Freedom of Information Act request in December, 2004, seeking all records pertaining to September 11, 2001 camera recordings of the Pentagon attack from the Sheraton National Hotel, the Nexcomm/Citgo gas station, Pentagon security cameras and the Virginia Department of Transportation. The Department of Defense admitted in a January 26, 2005 letter that it possessed a videotape responsive to Judicial Watch’s request, but the Pentagon refused to release it at the time.

"Now that the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui is over," explained William Kammer, Chief of the Department of Defense, Office of Freedom of Information, "we are able to complete your request and provide the video."

"We fought hard to obtain this video because we felt that it was very important to complete the public record with respect to the terrorist attacks of September 11," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton in a relase. "Finally, we hope that this video will put to rest the conspiracy theories involving American Airlines Flight 77. As always, our prayers remain with all those who suffered as a result of those murderous attacks."

The video is due for release by the Pentagon at 1:00 PM EST today. A copy of it will be made available on Judicial Watch’s Internet site, www.judicialwatch.org. RAW STORY requests for the time it will be made available by the group were not immediately returned.
http://www.rawstory.com/n(...)_attack_to_0516.html

Einde verhaal voor de conspiracy mafketels dus.
  dinsdag 16 mei 2006 @ 20:02:27 #90
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Op dinsdag 16 mei 2006 19:52 schreef Finder_elf_towns het volgende:

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Einde verhaal voor de conspiracy mafketels dus.
Er worden wel nieuwe verzonnen gevonden...

"Remote control aiplane" om er maar 1 te noemen...

[ Bericht 3% gewijzigd door ChOas op 16-05-2006 20:07:30 ]
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

[Stephen Roberts]
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Op dinsdag 16 mei 2006 19:52 schreef Finder_elf_towns het volgende:

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http://www.rawstory.com/n(...)_attack_to_0516.html

Einde verhaal voor de conspiracy mafketels dus.
Ik ben heel erg benieuwd naar die beelden.
  Moderator woensdag 17 mei 2006 @ 10:42:01 #92
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Amerikaanse overheid heeft de filmbeelden van aanval op het pentagon eingelijk vrijgegeven. en ik moet zeggen hier kunnen we wat mee.....


links komt die in beeld


Zelf zie ik er helemaal geen kut op, mocht je van pixelart houden dan is dit misschien leuk maar hier haal ik geen b757 uit en ik zie de kleuren van American Airline er ook niet op eigenlijk.

Als ze deze vrijgegeven hebben mogen die andere filmbeelden ook wel. Van de camera die op de snelweg staat, camara's op pentagon zelf en de camera op een hotel waar vliegtuig overheen vloog.

Misschien is het een idee om met deze beelden en de afstand van de camera de hoogte van het vliegtuig uit te reken? Naar mijn weten moet dat met een paar cijfers uit te kunnen rekenen
  woensdag 17 mei 2006 @ 14:25:34 #94
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Ik heb toch net twee filmpjes gekeken? Eentje van iets meer naar links. Daar zie je helemaal geen boeing 757 tenzij die op een kilometer afstand is.
Op woensdag 24 sept. 2008 schreef Danny het volgende:
Dagonet doet onaardig tegen iedereen. Je bent dus helemaal niet zo bijzonder als je denkt...
Mijn grootste bijdrage aan de FP.
  woensdag 17 mei 2006 @ 19:02:46 #95
6941 APK
Factual, I think.
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Heeft iemand een betere link?
Op die postzegel van de BBC is niks te zien.
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
  woensdag 17 mei 2006 @ 19:22:30 #97
6941 APK
Factual, I think.
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Merci.

Helaas worden we daar ook niet veel wijzer van.
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
  woensdag 17 mei 2006 @ 19:56:22 #98
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Op woensdag 17 mei 2006 19:22 schreef APK het volgende:

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Merci.

Helaas worden we daar ook niet veel wijzer van.
Seconde 24 op video twee. Ziet er niet uit als een vliegtuig van 47 meter lang en 15 meter hoog eerlijk gezegd. Niet op een muur van maximaal 280 meter lang en 24 meter hoog.
Op woensdag 24 sept. 2008 schreef Danny het volgende:
Dagonet doet onaardig tegen iedereen. Je bent dus helemaal niet zo bijzonder als je denkt...
Mijn grootste bijdrage aan de FP.
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Op dinsdag 21 maart 2006 22:05 schreef natte-flamoes het volgende:
FEIT:
Osama bin Laden verklaart achter de 9/11 aanslagen te zitten:
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http://www.portal.telegra(...)001/11/11/wbin11.xml
Duh, de Bushes hebben contacten met de Bin Ladens.
Gaat er nog steeds geen bel rinkelen, oogklepachtig schaapje ?
  donderdag 18 mei 2006 @ 22:29:51 #100
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Op donderdag 18 mei 2006 03:42 schreef Salvad0R het volgende:

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Duh, de Bushes hebben contacten met de Bin Ladens.
Gaat er nog steeds geen bel rinkelen, oogklepachtig schaapje ?

moet dat nou ?

Ik ga er van uit dat het bij deze opmerking blijft.. heb geen zin in nogmaals het traject van even geleden Truth Feedback 21
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