in 1 klap 2 spelers dus voor lazio.quote:I due difensori dell' Udinese, Emilson Cribari, 25 anni, e Manuel Belleri, 27 giocheranno il prossimo campionato con la Lazio.
Yep, no problemo, moet het voor DD ook nog doen.quote:Op vrijdag 8 juli 2005 13:42 schreef MaxPower het volgende:
DIGGER, volgens mij las ik in het vorige topic dat jij een DVD van de terugkeer van Maradona in Napoli had? Ik die makkelijk te kopieren voor andere VBL-ers zoals ik? Tegen onkosten uiteraard?
Bron? even benieuwd naar de gehele inhoud van het stuk.quote:Op vrijdag 8 juli 2005 21:38 schreef zjroentje het volgende:
Las net wat over een afsplitsing tussen de Serie A en de lagere Serie's, omdat de Serie A clubs met schulden weigeren een solidariteitsbijdrage voor de Serie B clubs te doen. Is dat nou echt serieus?
Bronquote:Serie-A-Klubs wollen Selbstständigkeit
Der italienische Profifußball steht vor einem großen Umbruch, es droht die Spaltung der Serie A von den unteren Ligen.
Grund für die Krise ist wie so oft das Geld. Die hochverschuldeten Serie-A-Klubs weigern sich, einen Solidaritätsbeitrag für die Serie B zu zahlen. Damit haben die Zweitligisten 102 Millionen Euro weniger zur Verfügung.
Antonio Giraudo, Geschäftsführer von Juventus Turin, verkündete: "Jetzt können wir unsere eigene Liga gründen und unsere Bilanzen leichter in Ordnung bringen."
De commissie die de financiele zaken nagaat en bankgaranties bekijkt van de clubs komt kort samengevat met de volgende 1e conclusies:quote:[b]La Covisoc boccia il Torino
La commissione di vigilanza sta esaminando i requisiti per l'iscrizione ai campionati. Rischia il Messina, fuori dalla B Salernitana e Perugia. Arrestato Gallo
ROMA, 8 luglio 2005 - Il Torino sarebbe fuori, condannato da debiti fiscali e previdenziali (Enpals), il Messina invece sarebbe in bilico. Queste le prime indiscrezioni che emergono dalla riunione della commissione di vigilanza sulle società di calcio (Covisoc) che sta esaminando i requisiti per l'iscrizione ai campionati. In serie B sarebbero compromesse le situazioni di Perugia e Salernitana, mentre è sanabile con poco quella del Treviso (carenze patrimoniali).
Pesante la situazione in serie C. Potrebbero essere più di 20 le società ritenute non in possesso dei requisiti per l'iscrizione. Oltre a Como e Venezia (fallite) emergono i nomi di Andria, Foggia, Reggiana, Spal, Benevento, Vis Pesaro, Torres, Sora, Teramo, Gela, Imolese, Latina, Pro Vasto e Rosetana e a questi se ne potrebbero aggiungere altri in serata. Simile a quella del Treviso, e quindi sanabile, la posizione del Lumezzane. In serata tutte le società non ritenute in regola riceveranno la comunicazione della Covisoc e quindi da domani scatteranno i termini per potere presentare entro il 12 luglio il ricorso alla Coavisoc che prenderà poi la sua decisione entro il 14, alla vigilia della riunione del consiglio federale.
Intanto è stato arrestato Luigi Gallo, l'ex presidente del Venezia, coinvolto nell'inchiesta sulla falsa fidejussione presentata dal Torino. Secondo quanto si è appreso, Gallo è stato preso in consegna dalla Guardia di Finanza a Genova, dove risiede. Nei suoi confronti la procura di Torino ha chiesto la cattura per il reato di truffa aggravata, ma non in concorso con i vertici del Torino calcio. In sostanza, sempre secondo quanto si è appreso, nel caso della falsa fidejussione il patron Franco Cimminelli e il presidente Attilio Romero sarebbero stati indotti in errore. La storia è quella della falsa fidejussione da 18 milioni di euro targata «Generali» che il Torino aveva presentato all'Agenzia per le Entrate a garanzia di pagamento di certe sue pendenze con l'erario. Il documento era fasullo, come ha accertato un primo rapido controllo da parte dei funzionari, e i vertici della società granata, quando sono stati interrogati, avevano detto che a fornirlo era stato Gallo. Il quale, subito dopo, aveva affermato di essere stato a sua volta raggirato da un broker, il cui nome era pronto a rivelare ai magistrati inquirenti.
DD z'n dubbelganger naar Fiorentina, je kan het als fan slechter treffenquote:Toni set for Tuscany transfer
Palermo striker Luca Toni is expected to be wearing the Fiorentina shirt by the end of next week.
Reports in Italy on Saturday suggest that a transfer is close after Palermo lowered their £11m asking price to £8.5m.
Although the Viola have still not met that demand, talks between Presidents Diego Delle Valle and Maurizio Zamparini, of Fiorentina and Palermo respectively, have opened the door for a switch.
It will now be up to Viola sporting director Pantaleo Corvino to successfully conclude negotiations.
"I will meet with Palermo to finalise everything but only if they accept our offer," he told the fiorentina.it website.
"We don’t intend to spend more than £7.5m for Toni. If they agree, we will then discuss a contract with the player which must also be reasonable."
The Stadio Franchi side have been looking for a new target man after also being linked with Bernardo Corradi of Valencia, Udinese forward Vincenzo Iaquinta and even Hernan Crespo of Chelsea.
Palermo, despite the fact that Toni has scored 50 goals in two seasons, are ready to sell after netting Andrea Caracciolo from Brescia.
They also seem to have their eyes on a new striker, Atalanta’s Stephen Makinwa, if the Italian international is released.
"We will meet Atalanta this week," said his agent Silvano Martina given that Palermo, Inter and Stuttgart have all made bids.
"Where does the player want to go? He will play his football where ever Atalanta decide he will."
quote:Torino and Messina axed?
Torino and Messina are facing the risk of expulsion from Serie A because of the state of their finances.
Covisoc, the body who must ratify that all clubs have the funds necessary to be registered for the new season, have found problems with both outfits.
As it stands now, they are not part of the First Division but the pair have until July 12 to appeal against the initial decision.
A final verdict on whether the clubs can compete in the top-flight next term is expected on July 15.
Numerous other clubs in lower Divisions are facing similar problems, with Perugia and Salernitana risking demotion from Serie B. A total of 16 clubs are in trouble in Serie C.
Voor de verschillende andere competities lopen er al nieuwe topics maar idd,de Italiaanse zomer is opzich al een apart hoofdstukquote:Op maandag 11 juli 2005 13:22 schreef the_legend_killer het volgende:
Ja is goed.
De volgende topic moet pas komen als er meer bekend is over het nieuwe seizoen.
O en Parma heeft een nieuwe trainer, Mario Beretta, vorig seizoen nog actief bij Chievo (tot ie ik meen 3 (kan ook 4 geweest zijn) wedstrijden voor het einde van het seizoen ontslagen werd.quote:Toni deal delayed
Luca Toni’s proposed move from Palermo to Fiorentina is on hold after the club’s failed to agree a fee.
The Azzurri international is surprisingly available for transfer, despite scoring 20 Serie A goals last season.
But the arrival of Andrea Caracciolo from Brescia and the expected signing of Atalanta’s Stephen Makinwa means that Palermo will be well covered should Toni exit.
“There are no negotiations and I don't have to sell Toni - he's a Palermo player and I will not negotiate further,” said Palermo director of sport Rino Foschi.
“Fiorentina have behaved badly and if they really want him they know what they must do. I won't sell him on their terms and I'm tired of this situation.”
The Rosanero are hoping to net around £9m for the former Brescia striker, while Fiorentina’s initial offer appears to be well short of the that figure.
Is Mozart van Juve en AS Roma mag niks doen toch?quote:Op dinsdag 12 juli 2005 07:52 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
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- Juve zou Adrian Mutu, Giorgio Chiellini en Santos Mozart willen ruilen met Antonio Cassano, Christian Panucci en Amantino Mancini
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Klopt en Klopt.quote:Op dinsdag 12 juli 2005 19:37 schreef methodmich het volgende:
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Is Mozart van Juve en AS Roma mag niks doen toch?
Lijkt mij ook wel iets voor een componist eigenlijk.quote:Op donderdag 14 juli 2005 01:34 schreef -Vaduz- het volgende:
Mozart, een mooie naam voor een voetballer.
Hmmm wel handig als ik de link geef: http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/transfers.htmlquote:Op donderdag 14 juli 2005 14:33 schreef methodmich het volgende:
Mail mij dat lijstje even DIGGER als je wilt, ik heb ze nog niet allemaal binnen geloof ik.
verkopen wel, kopen nietquote:Op donderdag 14 juli 2005 14:46 schreef methodmich het volgende:
Ik dacht dat Roma ook niet mocht verkopen of was Ivan transfervrij?
quote:Op vrijdag 15 juli 2005 09:03 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:
Toni!!!
quote:Toni pens Fiorentina deal
Luca Toni has completed his move to Fiorentina after Palermo yesterday accepted a £7.2m bid for the striker.
The 28-year-old has put pen to paper on a Viola contract that will tie him to the outfit until June 2009.
Toni, a player who scored 20 League goals for the Sicilians last term, will net just over £1m-a-season.
"He was our principal transfer market objective," said delighted Fiorentina boss Cesare Prandelli.
"He’s scored 50 goals in two years and I hope that he can continue such a strike rate here with us.
"He leads the line and sees the goal like few players do. We instantly agreed that he could be of use to us.
"Talks were lengthy but I think the player’s desire was the important factor behind the move."
Oftewel: als we niet in A spelen branden we de stad plat.quote:Ultras Torino: Senza serie A bruceremo la città
Fumogeni, slogan battaglieri, questa sera alcune centinaia di ultras del Torino stanno manifestando davanti al Municipio.
Fumogeni, slogan battaglieri, questa sera alcune centinaia di ultras del Torino stanno manifestando davanti al Municipio, dove e' in corso una seduta del Consiglio comunale, per sostenere il diritto della squadra a disputare il prossimo campionato di serie A. ''Se il Toro se ne va, bruceremo la citta''', hanno gridato i manifestanti che hanno anche lanciato qualche bottiglia contro la facciata del palazzo civico. Cori di insulti sono stati rivolti al presidente della Federcalcio, Franco Carraro, e al patron del Torino, Franco Cimminelli. Gli ultras hanno raggiunto il Comune dall' area in cui sorgeva lo stadio Filadelfia, dove si erano dati appuntamento.
quote:Vieri: 'Ik wilde niet weg bij Internazionale'
Christian Vieri wilde helemaal niet weg bij Internazionale, verklaarde hij donderdag. De 32-jarige spits verhuisde onlangs van Inter naar AC Milan, nadat de nerazzuri zijn doorlopende contract met negen miljoen euro hadden afgekocht.
'Het was niet mijn keuze om Inter te verlaten', bekende Vieri, die zes jaar voor Inter speelde. 'Ik weet niet waarom ze die beslissing hebben genomen. Maar ik kon niet blijven bij een ploeg waar ik niet gewenst was.'
'Daarna was het niet meer dan juist om naar de sterkst mogelijke club te gaan.' Vieri tekende bij de aartsrivaal van Inter een contract voor twee seizoenen. 'Ik hoop eindelijk iets te winnen', verklaarde Bobo cynisch. Met Internazionale pakte hij geen enkele echt grote prijs zoals de landstitel of de Champions League. 'Ik ben gelukkig hier.'
http://www.juventus.com/it/news/detail.aspx?lml_language_id=0&trs_id=1199000&ID=5175quote:Op donderdag 14 juli 2005 19:19 schreef DeTolk het volgende:
Vieira naar Juve ( EUR 20 miljoen)
Bron. vi.nlquote:Bond: geen Serie A voor Torino en Messina
15/7/2005 17:05
De Italiaanse voetbalbond kent geen mededogen met Torino en Messina, die geen van beide een sluitende begroting voor het komende seizoen kunnen overleggen. Beide ploegen mogen komend seizoen om die reden niet uitkomen in de Serie A.
Vooral voor Messina is dat opvallend. Die ploeg presteerde afgelopen seizoen boven verwachting in de competitie en werd zesde in de Serie A. Torino promoveerde een maandje geleden vanuit de Serie B naar het hoogste niveau.
Zowel Torino als Messina is tegen de beslissing van de Italiaanse bond in beroep gegaan. Mocht het besluit gehandhaafd blijven, dan zullen de opengevallen plaatsen waarschijnlijk worden ingenomen door Bologna en Treviso.
Ik vind ze tegenvallen.quote:Op vrijdag 15 juli 2005 16:18 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
En de shirts die Vieira zal dragen:
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Sja, Perugia was 2e gegadigde na Bologna, maar je weet hoe het daar mee gesteld is...quote:Op vrijdag 15 juli 2005 19:21 schreef methodmich het volgende:
Treviso? Nog gekker.
De titel van het topic is niet voor niets gekozen, zeker gezien het vet gedrukte.quote:Toro & Messina barred from Serie A
The Italian Football Federation (FIGC) have today expelled Torino and Messina from Serie A due to their financial problems.
Whispers in Italy over the last few days had suggested that the pair did not meet the requirements needed to be registered for the new campaign, and the FIGC confirmed the news on Friday.
However, today’s decision is not final and all clubs who have been barred have three appeal processes that they could still pursue.
"I'm not optimistic but I'm realistic," stated Torino President Attilio Romero, whose side won promotion last term.
"I think that we have all of the tools in hand and all of the prerequisites to remain in Serie A."
Messina, who comfortably survived the drop last season, are also confident that they have the necessary paperwork to resolve their problems.
"I knew this decision was coming," said Messina President Pietro Franza. "But I want to underline that we have great faith in the bodies who we will now turn to.
"We are certain that we can continue with our adventure in Serie A."
Bologna, following their relegation, are in pole position to replace Messina should today’s judgement stand.
Torino’s supposed exit would allow Treviso, who finished fifth in Serie B, to take their place because Perugia – who lost to Toro in the Play-Off Final – have their own problems.
The Umbrian outfit and Salernitana are currently not registered for the Second Division, while a host of Serie C sides are in real trouble too.
It’s unclear at this stage when we will know the final line-ups of each Division and therefore the fixtures for the new campaign. Serie A is set to kick-off on August 28.
Samengevat:quote:Ripescaggi, ricorsi e Lodo Petrucci
La Figc attenderà il verdetto della giustizia amministrativa prima di procedere ad eventuali ripescaggi. Qui sotto riportiamo ciò che potrebbe accadere in caso di conferma della decisione del Consiglio federale.
Ripescabili in serie A: BOLOGNA al posto del Messina; TREVISO al posto del Torino.
Ripescabili in serie B: In ordine di classifica VICENZA, PESCARA E CATANZARO (se il Messina non potesse ripartire dalla serie B).
Ripescabili in serie C1: CHIETI (retrocessa dalla C1), GIUGLIANO, JUVE STABIA, MONZA, SAN MARINO, VALENZANA (sconfitte ai playoff di C2, ma l'ordine è alfabetico).
PROSSIMI APPUNTAMENTI
Giovedì 21 luglio si riunisce la Camera di conciliazione del Coni, l'ultimo grado della giustizia sportiva. Chi è bocciato anche da questo tribunale può ricorrere soltanto in sede amministrativa. I giocatori delle società escluse sono tutti svincolati.
Il Tar del Lazio (III Sezione) è l'unico riconosciuto per i ricorsi sportivi dopo la sentenza della Cca. I tempi della sua riunione non sono ancora stati fissati.
Il Consiglio di stato è l'ultimo grado di giudizio amministrativo. Dopo il suo pronunciamento (la data non è stata ancora fissata), le squadre escluse non hanno ulteriori possibilità d'appello.
LODO PETRUCCI
Ecco come si accede al lodo Petrucci. L’art. 52, punto 6, dice: "In caso di non ammissione al campionato di A, B o C1 di una società che costituisce espressione della tradizione sportiva italiana e con un radicamento nel territorio di appartenenza comprovato da una continuativa partecipazione, anche in serie diverse ai campionati professionistici (dalla A alla C2) negli ultimi 10 anni, ovvero da una partecipazione per almeno 25 anni nell’ambito del calcio professionistico, la Figc, sentito il sindaco della città interessata, può attribuire ad altra società il titolo sportivo inferiore di una categoria rispetto a quello di pertinenza della società non ammessa". Alla nuova società non potrà partecipare chi ha ricoperto cariche sociali nella società non ammessa nè parenti di questi.
Zolang Fiat de tekorten aanvult welquote:Op zaterdag 16 juli 2005 20:02 schreef numero_uno het volgende:
Juventus toch nog?
bron: vi.nlquote:Juve dumpt rigoreus prijs seizoenkaart
16/7/2005 22:00
Juventus is een speciale actie begonnen om komend seizoen meer publiek te trekken in het Delle Alpi. De kampioen van Italië heeft 7.500 seizoenkaarten speciaal bestemd voor kinderen onder dertien jaar en vrouwen.
Deze supporters kunnen tegen een wel heel speciaal tarief naar Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Patrick Vieira en Pavel Nedved komen kijken. Voor een bedrag van één euro per competitieduel mogen de kinderen en vrouwen binnen en plaatsnemen op een van de lange zijdes. De seizoenkaart kost dus negentien euro.
Juventus geeft zo een fikse korting, want normaliter is honderd euro het minimumbedrag voor een seizoenskaart voor kinderen onder achttien jaar, terwijl volwassenen minimaal 220 euro moeten dokken. Bovendien gelden deze minimumprijzen voor de curves achter beide doelen.
'Het is een teken van de directie dat we van het stadion een plaats voor de familie willen maken', legde commercieel directeur Romy Gai de actie uit.
Hangt van de club/stadion af natuurlijk, bij Triest zit je bv. boven op het veld, ook in de Curva.quote:Op zondag 17 juli 2005 12:15 schreef -Vaduz- het volgende:
De afstand naar het veld is ook wel erg groot vanaf de zitplaatsen achter het doel.
quote:Bond klaagt Genoa aan, maar: 'Ooijer komt'
Genoa heeft officieel bekendgemaakt dat André Ooijer komend seizoen bij de promovendus speelt. Tegelijkerttijd maakte de Italiaanse bond (FICG) bekend dat de club uit Genua is aangeklaagd wegens sportieve fraude.
De FICG stelde voorzitter Enrico Preziosi, zijn zoon Matteo en algemeen directeur Stefano Capozucca in staat van beschuldiging van het bewerkstelligen van sportieve fraude. Ook Venezia staat terecht: voorzitter Franco Dal Cin, directeur Michele Dal Cin, manager Giuseppe Pagliara en spelers Massimo Borgobello en Martin Lejsal zitten om diezelfde reden in de beklaagdenbank.
Aanleiding voor de zaak die op 26 juli gepland staat, is het vermoeden van omkoping dat is gerezen na de 3-2 zege van Genoa op Venezia op de laatste speeldag van de Serie B. Hierdoor werd Genoa kampioen en dwong de club promotie naar de Serie A af. De bond zegt opnames van telefoongesprekken tussen spelers en bestuurders te hebben, die zijn verkregen via de politie.
Indien schuldig, is het zeer waarschijnlijk dat Genoa niet uitkomt in de Serie A. Maar voorzitter Enrico Preziosi probeert de aanhangers van de rossoblù te kalmeren door te stellen dat alles goed komt. In dat licht moet waarschijnlijk ook de bekendmaking van Ooijers transfer worden gezien. Want de Amsterdammer zal PSV alleen verlaten als Genoa daadwerkelijk in de Serie A uitkomt.
Overigens liet Ooijer zaterdag via de website van PSV weten dat zijn overgang naar Genoa verre van beklonken was. Het lijkt echter dat hij zich dom houdt tot de uitkomst van de hoorzitting van Genoa bekend is.
'Mijn zaakwaarnemer is benaderd door Genoa, maar zolang zij niet bij PSV komen is er wat mij betreft geen reden om aan een vertrek te denken. Daarvoor is PSV mij na al die jaren toch echt veel te dierbaar. Ik heb het hier hartstikke naar mijn zin', aldus Ooijer.
'PSV is geweldig en ik heb absoluut geen reden om per se weg te willen. Het is wel dat als ik op mijn leeftijd nog een mooi buitenlands avontuur kan aangaan, dat ik daar voor open sta. Maar alleen als alle voorwaarden voor mijn gevoel kloppen. Het risico om te verliezen wat ik bij PSV heb, wil ik niet lopen.'
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Ook is er nu weer discussie over uitbreiding van de Serie B.quote:Genoa and Venezia charged
Genoa’s Serie A status is in serious doubt after they and Venezia were charged with sporting fraud.
The two clubs have been under investigation following Genoa’s win over the Laguna outfit on the last day of the season, which ensured the port side’s return to the top-flight.
The Italian Football Federation (FIGC) released a statement on Sunday which stated that Genoa chief Enrico Preziosi, his son Matteo and director Stefano Capozucca have been accused of "collaborating to achieve sporting fraud."
Venezia owner Franco Dal Cin, director general Michele Dal Cin and fellow director Giuseppe Pagliara – plus players Martin Lejsal and Massimo Borgobello – have also been charged.
The two clubs have also been charged with "direct responsibility" as part of the ongoing probe.
The enquiry was launched after allegations of match fixing regarding the 3-2 win over Venezia last term.
That after police acquired recordings of numerous telephone conversations between players and officials as evidence.
Both clubs deny any wrongdoing.
If found guilty, Genoa could be handed an array of punishments ranging from a fine, points deduction or possible exclusion from Serie A.
quote:Ballack to the future
Inter have reportedly convinced Michael Ballack to leave Bayern Munich for the San Siro outfit in the summer of 2006.
The German international will be a free agent next July and he has already hinted that he is looking for a new club.
"I am very happy here but I think the time has arrived for me to try playing for a great European club," he recently stated. "It is a question of stimulus."
Stories in the peninsula on Monday morning claim that the Nerazzurri have already struck a deal with the central midfielder.
The former Bayer Leverkusen sensation, who has spent the last five years with Bayern, has been tempted by Inter’s three-year contract offer.
Ballack, who will be hoping to lead his country to World Cup glory next summer, has been linked with Inter in the past.
It is believed that Ballack has been targeted given that Juan Sebastian Veron has made no secret of his desire to return to Argentina in 12 months.
Nerazzurri fans will be hoping that Ballack can make as a big an impact as Lothar Matthaus. The legendary German helped the club win their last Scudetto in 1989.
Kort samengevat alle clubs die Niet OK zijn, 18 dus, waardoor nu in totaal 36 clubs niet weten waar ze aan toe zijn.quote:La formazione dei campionati è ancora in alto mare e tante squadre non sanno effettivamente quale sarà la loro collocazione futura: per le iscrizioni in A tremano Torino e Messina, in B Perugia e Salernitana. In C Benevento, Fermana, Gela, Spal, Torres, Como, Imolese, Rosetana, Vis Pesaro, mentre sono state già escluse Andria, Reggiana e Venezia in C1, Canzese e Sora in C2. Nello stesso tempo mentre ci sono 18 squadre in bilico o già fuori altre sono 18 candidate a prendere il posto con i ripescaggi: incertezza massima quindi per ben 36 società.
Als Inzaghi nu ook wat fitter blijft komend seizoen hebben ze, naast een doelman, verdediging en middenveld om van te likkebaarden, ook een dito aanval.quote:Op maandag 18 juli 2005 22:55 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:
Gilardino naar Milan. Jeetje wat een team daar nu zeg...
Had hem liever in een Juve shirt gezienquote:Op maandag 18 juli 2005 22:55 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:
Gilardino naar Milan. Jeetje wat een team daar nu zeg...
Goeie club voor hem.quote:Op dinsdag 19 juli 2005 10:20 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:
Geweldig:
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Presentatie van mijn look-a-like in Florence
Die zonnebrilquote:Op dinsdag 19 juli 2005 10:20 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:
Geweldig:
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Presentatie van mijn look-a-like in Florence
Deze 7 clubs dus op het nippertje ingeschreven om komend seizoen te kunnen voetballen, alles moet nog beoordeeld worden (gisteren was laatste kans). Met name veel Serie C clubs dus niet ingeschreven dus dat lijkt het definitieve einde voor ze.quote:Lodo Petrucci: 7 squadre aderiscono
(aggiornamento) Si aggiunge il Gela allo scadere dei termini. Due società nuove per la Salernitana
Torino, Perugia, Salernitana, Spal, Benevento, Andria e in ultima il Gela hanno aderito al Lodo Petrucci. Alla scadenza della mezzanotte queste le squadre che hanno presentato la documentazione e la fidejussione necessaria. Intanto pare che due nuove società siano nate a Salerno, mentre è stato smentito ricorso del Torino contro il Treviso.
Ik zit met het zelfde probleem.. alleen dan een ander kleurtjequote:Op donderdag 21 juli 2005 12:12 schreef the_legend_killer het volgende:
Nu nog de de super cup in Italie.
Ik kan echt niet leven met de shirts van Inter,
Die van afgelopen seizoen vond ik mooier
Iddquote:
Maar meest opmerkelijke is dat Cassano geen vice aanvoerder meer is bij afwezigheid van Totti, maar Montella.quote:Op zondag 24 juli 2005 16:31 schreef the_legend_killer het volgende:
Roma heeft gister een oefenwedstrijd gespeeld.
Taddai , Nonda deden mee.
Kouffour weet ik niet zeker geloof het wel.
Ze wilden zelf gewoon meedoen.
Ze hadden ook geen sponsor op een shirt staan , maar een rode balk.
Dus Mazda zal waarschijnljik afhaken als sponsor.
En Roma moet dus op zoek naar een nieuwe.
Daarom is het nieuwe shirt ook nog steeds niet gepresenteerd,
Beetje late reactie maar:quote:Op dinsdag 19 juli 2005 12:32 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
O die DVD's van ferrara z'n afscheidsavond met Diego erbij en zo gaf wat problemen met kopieren, m'n zwager probert het even vanaf een ander schijfje, dus nog even geduld. (Heb voor Maxpower wel alvast een DVD gemaakt met een volledige uitzending Diego beelden.
Wacht anders even een weekje, anders kies je misschien een failliete club.quote:Op dinsdag 26 juli 2005 09:33 schreef MaxPower het volgende:
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Beetje late reactie maar:![]()
Ik mail je vanavond wel even over hoe en wat!
Ik ga ook maar eens Napoli-supporter worden denk ik, heb toch nog niet echt een favo club in Italie...
quote:Coni respinge ricorso del Messina
La squadra siciliana non può iscriversi alla A e non può usufruire del Lodo Petrucci. Se il Tar confermerà la decisione della Camera di Conciliazione, il club di Franza partirà dalla C
Le speranze per il Messina di poter giocare nella prossima stagione in serie A sono sempre più ridotte. La camera di conciliazione del Coni ha respinto questa mattina il ricorso del Messina che pertanto non potrà iscriversi al campionato di serie A. Adesso la società siciliana ha la possibilità di ricorrere al Tar del Lazio, la cui udienza è fissata per il 2 agosto.
quote:Messina appeal fails
Messina’s bid to have their Serie A expulsion overturned has failed, leaving them with an anxious wait ahead of the new season.
The Sicilian outfit were kicked out of the Italian top flight after failing to convince the authorities that they could manage their debts.
That decision was made by the Italian Football Federation (FIGC), but their recent appeal was heard by the Italian Olympic Committee (CONI).
After the decision was made, Messina President Pietro Franza said: “It seems to me to be a absurd situation.”
However, the club still have the right to appeal to the Regional Administrative Courts (TAR).
Meanwhile, Torino are still awaiting their fate from the CONI, with a decision expected later.
quote:Il Coni boccia Messina e Torino
Respinti i ricorsi di tutte le società di A, B e C per l'iscrizione ai campionati, salva solo la Fermana. Ora tocca al Tar che deciderà il 2 agosto
ROMA, 26 luglio 2005 - Tutte bocciate, tranne la Fermana. La Camera di Conciliazione Arbitrale del Coni (presieduta da Pier Luigi Ronzani e composta dall'avvocato Guido Ceccinelli, i professori Marcello Foschini, Luigi Napolitano e Luigi Fumagalli e il segretario-tecnico Mario Arpino) ha detto no a tutti i ricorsi per l'iscrizione ai rispettivi campionati. Dopo il no al Messina arrivato in mattinata, è toccato dunque anche a Torino, Perugia e Salernitana, oltre alle altre sei società di serie C (Benevento, Torres, Imolese, Gela, Spal, Rosetana). Respinti anche i reclami (di diverso tipo) presentati da Orvietana, Val di Sangro e soprattutto Napoli che aveva richiesto la non accettazione della domanda di iscrizione di varie società non adempienti ai versamenti Inail. Per tutti questi club ora si apre un'altra strada: il ricorso al Tar, la cui udienza è fissata per il 2 agosto.
quote:Cardiff poach Parma starlet
In a move sure to provoke more protests from Parma, yet another member of their Primavera side has moved to Britain. After official protests from the Gialloblu over the moves of promising youngsters Giuseppe Rossi and Arturo Lupoli to Manchester United and Arsenal, Andreas Ferretti has now joined Cardiff City. Sir Alex Ferguson was again central to the deal after taking him on trial at Manchester United, as the striker had been looking to follow his good friend Rossi to England. After having a look at the player, Ferguson contacted Cardiff manager Dave Jones to recommend the Ferretti. The youngster has now signed a two-year deal after a trial period with the Bluebirds. “Andreas was good on tour, he certainly has something,” Jones told the South Wales Echo. “He has now signed, it’s all done and dusted.”
Welkom in de Serie A Ascoliquote:Genoa retrocesso e penalizzato
Disciplinare più severa della Procura: per i rossoblù C1 con penalizzazione di 3 punti da scontare nella prossima stagione. Il presidente Preziosi si è dimesso
MILANO, 27 luglio 2005 - La speranza era l'ultima a morire. Incredibili quelle richieste della Procura per i vertici del Genoa e i tifosi tutti. Invece la Commissione Disciplinare non ha badato a spese e ha emesso una sentenza ancora più severa: sì retrocessione all'ultimo posto della classifica di serie B del 2004-2005, con conseguente retrocessione in C1, ma anche una penalizzazione di tre punti da scontare nella prossima stagione.
Bastasse questo: cinque anni di inibizione al presidente del Genoa Enrico Preziosi, al direttore generale genoano Stefano Capozucca, all'amministratore delegato del Venezia Franco Dal Cin, e al gm veneziano Giuseppe Pagliara. Per Enrico Preziosi e Franco Dal Cin, la Disciplinare oltre all'inibizione, ha proposto al Presidente federale la "preclusione alla permanenza in qualsiasi rango o categoria della Figc". La Procura aveva anche chiesto l'inibizione di quattro anni per Preziosi e Dal Cin; di tre e un mese per Capozucca, Michele Dal Cin, Giuseppe Pagliara; di sei mesi per Roberto Cravero, mentre fra i giocatori aveva chiesto la squalifica di tre anni e un mese per Massimo Borgobello, di un anno per Martin Lejsal e di sei mesi per Massimiliano Esposito.
In questo senso la mano è stata meno pesante. Massimiliano Esposito, all'epoca dei fatti tesserato per il Venezia, è stato prosciolto, mentre suoi due compagni, Lejsal e Borgobello sono stati squalificati rispettivamente per sei e cinque mesi.
"Il Genoa è la vittima sacrificale di una impostazione inquisitoria della vicenda". È il primo commento a caldo del difensore della società rossoblù, Alfredo Biondi, alla sentenza della Disciplinare. "Faremo appello in tutte le sedi - ha aggiunto Biondi - e mi auguro che si trovi la serenità necessaria a far valere le buone ragioni, sperando sempre che i giudici le raccolgano. Mi ero illuso che la meditazione prevalesse su un esame formale della questione. Questa vicenda è cominciata male ed è finita peggio".
Un ciclone devastante dalle consueguenze inimmaginabili. Mentre il presidente Enrico Preziosi, a comunicarlo è una nota della società rossoblu, ha presentato le sue dimissioni.
Waarvoor dank, want ik heb de Serie A al een tijdje niet gevolgd. Je info is erg verhelderendquote:Op dinsdag 26 juli 2005 21:49 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Ik geef het nieuws hier maar, want als je van Nederlandse nieuwsbronnen afhankelijk bent, dan hoor je er nooit wat over en snap je straks geen reet van de redenen wie waarom in welke serie speelt, waarom fans van club A ineens lijnrecht tegenover die van club B staan, etc.
quote:Genoa demoted to C1!
Genoa have been demoted to Serie C1 after the Italian Football League concluded their investigation into claims of match-fixing.
The charge related to Genoa’s 3-2 victory over Venezia on the last day of the Serie B season, which was enough to secure automatic promotion.
As a result, the Rossoblu will instead play next season in Serie C1.
To make matters worse, the League also imposed a three point deduction.
Club president Enrico Preziosi and general manager Stefano Capozucca were banned from the game for five years for their roles in the affair.
Venezia managing director Francesco Dal Cin was also given a five-year ban.
And Venezia’s 23-year-old Czech ‘keeper Martin Lejsal and 34-year-old striker Massimo Borgobello were given bans of five and six months for their part in the affair.
Both clubs have the right to appeal the decisions.
Napoli zal ook in beroep gaan tegen het verwerpen van hun aanklacht tegen 7 clubs die in hun ogen onterecht goedgekeurd zijn, want mocht in de beroepen straks de straf voor Genoa of de uitsluiting van Torino, Messina, Perugia of Salernitana teruggedraaid worden, dan zou Napoli in de Serie C blijven (tenzij ze dus gelijk krijgen in hun beroep).quote:
Genoa to appeal decision
Genoa have confirmed that they will be appealing the decision to demote them to Serie C1.
The Rossoblu discovered their fate after the enquiry into their alleged match-fixing case concluded earlier today.
They were also informed that they would have to start the new campaign with a three-point deduction.
“We will appeal to every court and I hope the judges listen to us,” Genoa lawyer Alfredo Biondi told gazzetta.it.
"I was hoping, but this case has started badly and finished worse.”
And Genoa President Enrico Preziosi, who received a five-year ban, confirmed his expected resignation from the club.
“Genoa Cricket and Football club announce that Enrico Preziosi has resigned as President of Genoa Cricket and Football club,” read a statement.
Further details of Genoa’s case have also been released by the League.
They investigated a ¤250,000 payment from Genoa to their opponents Venezia before the final Serie B game of the season on June 11 and said telephone taps showed it was aimed at "guaranteeing" the result.
Genoa won the game 3-2, thus securing promotion to Italy’s top flight for the first time in a decade.
Investigators listened to telephone taps of conversations between club officials and between the Venezia players Martin Lejsal and Massimo Borgobello.
The statement said that the phone taps of the players included the phrases "there is an agreement between the two clubs", "there is money involved, but it is not known who will take it" and "the club will take it".
Dan was het toch niet doorgegaan. Andre gun ik zoiets ook niet toe anders.quote:Op woensdag 27 juli 2005 17:00 schreef zjroentje het volgende:
Zonde dat Ooijer niet al bij Genoa had getekend.
quote:Davids deal confusion
Edgar Davids’ lawyer has claimed that his client has not signed for anyone yet. This comes after Tottenham have already announced they have signed the Inter player. Rob Geerling, who is a central member of Davids’ negotiating team, claims the Dutch international is still examining his options. “Edgar has offers from several British clubs, who are talking to Inter,” he stated. “He is waiting to see what is happening with those clubs. Edgar likes to play at the highest level. There are pros and cons for all the relevant clubs.” While Tottenham are still the favourites to land the Inter midfielder, Everton and Middlesbrough – who are both playing in European competitions this season – could try and snatch him away at the last minute.
quote:Lazio agree Behrami deal
Lazio have signed promising youngster Valon Behrami from Verona.
The Swiss midfielder was co-owned by Verona and Genoa, but the Biancocelesti have agreed to buy Verona’s share.
Behrami made 33 appearances in Serie B for Verona last season, netting three goals.
He also spent the 2003/04 season in the Second Division, making 24 appearances for Genoa.
The 20-year-old has signed a four-year deal and Lazio are expected to buy Genoa’s share during the January transfer window.
In other transfer news, Livorno have loaned Emmanuel Osei to Romanian side Politehnica Timisoara.
The 22-year-old Ghanaian made only six appearances for the Amaranto last season
Frosinone - Avellino vind ik de leukste lotingquote:Coppa Rd 1 draw made
The draw for the First Round of the Coppa Italia has been made, with Torino, Perugia, Messina and Salernitana all missing.
The quartet have been omitted from the Italian Cup this season as they are currently not registered for any championship because of their financial difficulties.
This term’s Coppa will be loosely based on the English FA Cup. The first two rounds – which will start with 64 sides – will be straight knock-out games, with the lower Division clubs being handed the home advantage.
The remaining Serie A clubs (Inter, Juventus, Milan, Udinese, Sampdoria, Palermo, Roma and Lazio) will enter the competition at the last 16 stage where the tournament will revert to it’s classical format of two-legged encounters.
The Final is set for May 3 and May 11.
Round 1 (Sunday 7 August)
Forli`-Livorno
Giugliano-Reggina
Monza-Lecce
San Marino-Cagliari
Juve Stabia-Siena
Valenzana-Chievo V.
Cisco Lodigiani-Fiorentina
Cavese-Parma
Pizzighettone-Empoli
Ravenna-Bologna
Pro Sesto-Brescia
Maddese-Atalanta
Manfredonia-Treviso
Acireale-Ascoli
Teramo-H.Verona
Cittadella-Modena
Lumezzane-Ternana
Lucchese-Piacenza
Martina-Bari
Pro Patria-Albinoleffe
Pisa-Catania
Lanciano-Arezzo
Spezia-Cesena
Sangiovannese-Crotone
Padova-Triestina
Pistoiese-Rimini
Sambenedettese-Crotone
Padova-Triestina
Pistoiese-Rimini
Sambenedettese-Cremonese
Frosinone-Avellino
Grosseto-Mantova
Pavia-Vicenza
Napoli-Pescara
Genoa-Catanzaro
quote:Maradona zondag in Arena verwacht
Het Amsterdam Tournament hoopt vurig op de komst van Diego Armando Maradona, de huidige vice-voorzitter van Boca Juniors.
Twee keer eerder was de Argentijnse legende in ons land en slechts een handvol Nederlanders kwam ooit in zijn buurt. Op zoek naar het vleugje oranje in de aders van El Diego. Diego Maradona ritste op 29 juli 1996 zijn broek open in Amsterdam, niet ver van de Wallen. De Argentijnse vedette liep naar een verloren muurtje, vlakbij de pizzeria waar hij zojuist had geluncht, en begon ongegeneerd te urineren. ,,Amsterdam is prachtig'', riep hij even later richting de camera van AT5, dat het bliksembezoek vastlegde. ,,Ik kom zeker nog eens terug.''
Voor zover bekend is de pizza/plaspauze op de Wallen - vandaag precies negen jaar geleden - de laatste keer dat Maradona ons land bezocht. De eerste keer was in augustus 1982, toen hij met FC Barcelona een trainingskamp belegde in Papendal. De Catalaanse ploeg zou in die week een oefenwedstrijd spelen tegen FC Groningen, maar dat duel werd op het allerlaatste moment afgelast. Trainer Udo Lattek vond dat Groningen veel te hard speelde. De dure benen van Maradona moesten ten koste van alles gespaard worden.
In juli 1996 was de voetballer met Boca Juniors op doorreis vanuit China naar Buenos Aires. Maradona, vechtend tegen het droevige einde van zijn loopbaan, maakte een tussenstop in Amsterdam. Eigenlijk wilde hij de pas gebouwde Arena bezoeken met ploeggenoot Juan Sebastian Veron, maar het Argentijnse gezelschap mocht niet naar binnen. Dit weekeinde is de voetballegende wél welkom in het stadion, als vice-voorzitter van Boca Juniors. De organisatie van het Amsterdam Tournament verwacht hem zondag op de tribune, maar zeker is niets in het leven van El Pibe de Oro (de gouden jongen). ,,Het bestuur van Boca houdt nog steeds vol dat hij erbij zal zijn'', aldus woordvoerder Erik van Leeuwen.
quote:Juve monitor new Cafu
Italian champions Juventus are today being linked with Brazil’s attacking right-back Cicinho.
The Sao Paulo player is widely considered as Marcos Cafu’s heir in the national side and has caught the attention of numerous clubs.
Cicinho, who is on the verge of gaining EU status thanks to his Italian roots, recently impressed at the Confederations’ Cup in Germany.
It was believed that Milan would make a move for the defender but the Old Lady of Italian football have emerged as contenders on Friday.
Although he recently extended his contract with his South American club until 2008, he would consider a European switch – even if that is only likely to happen next summer.
Whispers suggest that any proposed deal would cost any interested party a total of £8m, with 40 per cent of that fee going directly to the player.
The Bianconeri are looking for a new right-back and have been linked with numerous players this summer.
Lazio’s Massimo Oddo has been associated, as has Portuguese international Miguel of Benfica.
Juventus’ current first choice right-sided defender is former Cagliari and Roma player Jonathan Zebina.
Cicinho heeft dus de basiscursus Photoshop gevolgdquote:Cicinho, who is on the verge of gaining EU status thanks to his Italian roots, recently impressed at the Confederations’ Cup in Germany.
quote:Milito walks out on Genoa
Genoa hitman Diego Milito has alerted clubs including Juve, Inter and Real Saragozza that he is looking for a move elsewhere.
“There has been terrible chaos here,” said the striker after his club was demoted to the Third Division. “We had earned our promotion to Serie A, but if the decision is confirmed then I cannot avoid leaving. I will not play in Serie C1.”
Genoa’s celebrations at their first promotion in a decade were short-lived, as they have been pushed down to Serie C and docked three points as a result of a match-fixing scandal. The last game of the season, a 3-2 win over Venezia, was shrouded in controversy and the Disciplinary Commission ruled that there had been irregularities.
Now Milito – who has scored 33 goals in two seasons – is ready to walk out on the club that brought him to Italy. He is already a target for Juventus, Inter and Real Saragozza.
“The Spaniards know I will make a decision over the next few days,” he told ‘AS’ newspaper. “It would be great to play alongside my brother Gabriel at Saragozza and their interest makes me proud. It’s not entirely up to me, though, as Inter are also in negotiations with Genoa. Before making any choices, I must find out where the Rossoblu will be playing next season.”
Genoa have appealed against the demotion and will know their fate before the calendars are drawn up on August 12.
quote:Abbiati future in doubt
A number of Italian clubs are interested in signing new Genoa goalkeeper Christian Abbiati following their demotion.
The port club were thrown into the Third Division last week for alleged match-fixing which has now placed Abbiati’s loan switch from Milan into doubt.
Abbiati does want a first team shirt in order to win a place at the 2006 World Cup, but is unlikely to accept the prospect of Serie C football.
Should Genoa’s appeal against their punishment fail then Abbiati is expected to assess his options.
Serie A minnows Siena and Livorno have both been linked with the former Scudetto winner as they are looking for shot-stoppers.
Palermo could also make a move after they pulled out of a swoop to net Galatasaray’s Faryd Ali Mondragon.
The Colombian shot-stopper, 34, was expected to sign last week but the Sicilian outfit pulled out at the last minute.
Palermo already made an approach for Abbiati last summer but Milan refused to let the international custodian leave at the time.
quote:Op maandag 1 augustus 2005 20:16 schreef cultheld het volgende:
De Milanesti zijn er nu achter hoe goed hij is.
quote:Toro appeal rejected - Messina back in A!
The verdicts are in from the TAR tribunal and it’s not good news for Torino, Perugia, Salernitana and Napoli – but Messina are back in Serie A.
Messina’s appeal has been accepted and the Sicilian club is readmitted to the top flight after a lengthy legal battle. Theirs was always the most solid position out of all the bankruptcy-threatened sides and supported by the local council.
The Lazio tribunal examined appeals against financially troubled clubs’ exclusion from Serie A and B, but mainly reiterated the verdict given by the football authorities.
This means that Torino are still out of the top flight, while Perugia and Salernitana will not be allowed to register for Serie B.
"We remain confident," stated Granata President Attilio Romero. "We had already been working towards having the right paperwork for the State Counsel on August 9."
Torino registered for the Championship with a bank draft that later proved to be false. The club claimed it was the victim of fraud, but has so far been unable to find financial backing to cover their £27.5m debts
In all 16 motions were handed to the TAR today – five of which were from Napoli in a bid to highlight ‘irregularities’ in the accounts of Arezzo, Ascoli, Brescia, Pescara and Vicenza – but all were rejected. Benevento have also been excluded from Serie C1.
The situation is still in the air, however, as the clubs can all lodge one final appeal to the State Counsel on August 9 - before the fixture lists are drawn up on August 12.
That date could also prove decisive for Messina, as the FIGC will probably lodge their own appeal to the State Counsel in order to have Messina excluded from the top flight.
Football clubs in Italy must prove their financial stability before registering for the new season. If they fail to do so, they are excluded and pushed down a Division to start again under new ownership.
Napoli in A? Je bedoelt B denk ik.quote:Op woensdag 3 augustus 2005 07:43 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Alleen Messina is geslaagd in het hoger beroep, maar daar gaat Bologna tegen in beroep.
De FIGC gaat overigens ook tegen Messina in beroep
Alle andere clubs zijn dus niet geslaagd, maar allen gaan in beroep.
Torino moet voor vanavond 19 uur met een +/- 5 miljoen Euro komen voor de Lodo Petrucci, anders wordt het geen Serie B maar Serie C (of ze moeten in hun beroep gelijk krijgen).
Over Bologna doen nu wilde geruchten de ronde als dat daar de boeken ook totaal niet kloppen, volgt waarschijnlijk nog een onderzoek.
Of Napoli nu in de Serie B speelt hangt van diverse zaken af. Als alles zo blijft en Torino voldoet niet aan de Lodo Petrucci, dan speelt Napoli A, maar het beroep van genoa loopt bv nog en kan dan fataal zijn.
Mocht Messina toch teruggezet worden, dan is er wat meer lucht, Napoli zit iig op het randje, dan spelen ze 'virtueel' in B, dan weer in C1, dan weer in B, en nu weer in C1.
Koop dan maar eens spelers in en zorg dan maar eens voor goeie sponsor deals.....
Vorig jaar zijn ze zo hoog geindigd door een aantal goede wedstrijden op het einde. Voor de rest stelde de ploeg niet dusdanig veel voor. Denk dat ze het dit seizoen zwaar zullen hebben niet te degraderen.quote:Op woensdag 3 augustus 2005 09:24 schreef snellejelle het volgende:
Messina mag blijvenben benieuwd of ze dit jaar UEFA cup voetbal kunnen behalen!
een paar goede wedstrijden op het einde? juist op het einde hebben ze veel punten laten liggenquote:Op woensdag 3 augustus 2005 09:39 schreef Afunados het volgende:
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Vorig jaar zijn ze zo hoog geindigd door een aantal goede wedstrijden op het einde. Voor de rest stelde de ploeg niet dusdanig veel voor. Denk dat ze het dit seizoen zwaar zullen hebben niet te degraderen.
DD, welk team krijg ik voor de toto? Liefst Bologna als die nog vrij is..
quote:Op woensdag 3 augustus 2005 09:59 schreef snellejelle het volgende:
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een paar goede wedstrijden op het einde? juist op het einde hebben ze veel punten laten liggenze hebben het hele seizoen hoog gestaan
Ik kijk even...quote:Op woensdag 3 augustus 2005 09:39 schreef Afunados het volgende:
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Vorig jaar zijn ze zo hoog geindigd door een aantal goede wedstrijden op het einde. Voor de rest stelde de ploeg niet dusdanig veel voor. Denk dat ze het dit seizoen zwaar zullen hebben niet te degraderen.
DD, welk team krijg ik voor de toto? Liefst Bologna als die nog vrij is..
Oftewel: wat er exact allemaal gebeurd is, is nog vaag, maar de politie in Napoli heeft in ieder geval een aanslag dmv een bombrief bedoeld voor vanavond om af te gaan bij de CONI verijdeld en 2 tifosi met explosieven gearresteerd.quote:Allarme a Fuorigrotta: bomba carta presso sede Coni.
Fermati due facinorosi, di cui è ancora ignota l'identità, con l'accusa di danneggiamento aggravato, detenzione e porto di materiale esplodente. Il misfatto è forse ricollegabile alle ultime vicende della Napoli Soccer.
Una bomba carta e' stata fatta esplodere questa notte davanti all'ingresso della sede di Napoli del Coni a piazzale Tecchio, provocando danni ancora da quantificare. Per quest'episodio, secondo le prime notizie, la Digos della Questura di Napoli ha subito dopo fermato due tifosi del Napoli considerati appartenenti a una delle frange piu' estremiste del tifo azzurro. I due - dei quali non e' stata ancora resa nota l'identita' - sono stati bloccati con l'accusa di danneggiamento aggravato, detenzione e porto di materiale esplodente in concorso e uno di loro anche per detenzione di sostanza stupefacente. L'episodio, secondo la polizia, potrebbe essere collegato alle ultime vicende del Napoli, con la bocciatura, prima da parte della Camera Arbitrale del Coni e poi dal Tar del Lazio, dei ricorsi contro le squadre accusate di non essere in regola con i versamenti all'Inail. Il no alle istanze del club azzurro, al momento, preclude il ripescaggio della squadra in serie B.
Zo, die zijn echt pissig! Dat zou dan inderdaad wel eens stevig uit de klauwen kunnen lopen.quote:Op woensdag 3 augustus 2005 12:17 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
De Napolitaanse fans dreigen met acties en chaos rondom de Coppa Italia wedstrijd tegen Pescara, 1 van de clubs van wie Napoli beweert dat ze hun financiele huishouding niet op orde hebben en onterecht een licentie krijgen voor de Serie B komend seizoen.
Ik ben bang dat dit gigantisch uit de klauwen gaat lopen zondag...temeer daar ze ook niet in eigen stadion spelen (wordt gerenoveerd ivm de Birra Moretti cup) maar in Benevento en het stadion slopen van een andere club, zeker 1 die verplicht gedegradeerd is, is dan ook geen enkele belemmering.
quote:Op donderdag 4 augustus 2005 07:38 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
De coppa Italie wedstrijd La Spezia-Cesena wordt 6 augustus in Engeland afgewerkt
nou dan heeft napoli ook niets in de serie B te zoekenquote:Op donderdag 4 augustus 2005 07:48 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Palermo - Napoli, vriendschappelijk in Udine, eindigde trouwens in 7-1
Nou op zich is het nu logisch, want Napoli heeft geld om spelers Aan te trekken, maar het is nogal lastig spelers kopen als je niet weet of je in de Serie B of Serie C1 speelt. Er zijn derhalve nu heel vele clubs heel terughoudend op de transfermarkt.quote:Op donderdag 4 augustus 2005 09:11 schreef snellejelle het volgende:
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nou dan heeft napoli ook niets in de serie B te zoeken
Dat ie met pensioen moet, een lul is etc.quote:Op vrijdag 5 augustus 2005 12:12 schreef snellejelle het volgende:
zou je die spandoeken es kunnen vertalen? mijn italiaans is namelijk niet meer wat het nooit geweest is
En zonder Caracciolo.quote:Op vrijdag 5 augustus 2005 12:16 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:
7-1 DIGGER, auw. En dat zelfs zonder Luca 'held' Toni.
Volgens de media tekent ie maandag ja.quote:Op zaterdag 6 augustus 2005 11:28 schreef Afunados het volgende:
Corradi wordt waarschijnlijk de opvolger van Gilardino bij Parma
Zaccardo zou een hele goeie zijn iig!quote:Toni dreams of Viola trident
Hitman Luca Toni talks about the new-look Fiorentina and the club assure fans that two more signings are on the way.
“I can play in any tactical system, with Valeri Bojinov and Giampaolo Pazzini or in a partnership with either of them,” noted the new arrival. “There are no problems in that sense and the Coach will be able to choose whoever is on top form at that time throughout the season.”
Toni was the Viola’s top choice centre-forward and completed a surprise £7m move from Palermo after netting 50 goals in two terms. He has proved successful during the summer tour, which saw three wins and a defeat.
“We have worked well in Japan and managed to practice some of our movements as a team, which is particularly important with so many new players” added Toni. “Now we must focus on preparing for the new season and getting a good start in the Coppa Italia against Lodigiani.”
The Stadio Artemio Franchi side has made many changes over the close season, but there are set to be more, according to President Andrea Della Valle.
“It’s a competitive squad, but we will sign another two reinforcements before the end of the summer,” said the patron. “The cherry on the cake was Toni and we’re close to being a great team.”
One of the potential candidates to join Fiorentina is Toni’s former Palermo teammate Cristian Zaccardo.
“I know him well and respect him as a player,” said the striker. “Zaccardo is also an Italian international and he’d make a fantastic signing. I’d be happy if he joined us, but clearly these decisions must be made by the clubs.”
quote:Genoa await appeal verdict
On Sunday evening Genoa will know which Division they’ll be playing in this season and President Enrico Preziosi maintains he did not fix a match.
“I can’t take this waiting any more and just hope they decide as quickly as possible,” said the toy tycoon. “I was stupid, I admit that, but I did not buy that result.”
The Disciplinary Commission demoted Genoa to Serie C1 and docked three points after a match-fixing scandal. The final game of the Serie B season that saw their promotion was a 3-2 win over already-relegated Venezia, but a Lagunari director was caught leaving Preziosi’s office with a suitcase that contained £173,000 cash.
Telephone conversations between the Genoa patron and Venezia chief Franco Dal Cin were also used in evidence against them. Their appeal was held on Friday at the CAF (Federal Court of Appeal) and a verdict should be delivered between Sunday evening and Monday morning.
It was not a good start, as all of Genoa’s initial protests about the evidence used were rejected almost immediately.
Should Genoa’s demotion be confirmed, or even changed to place them in Serie B instead, Treviso will be promoted to the top flight in their place.
As with Messina last week, the fans are staging protests in the city around the Porto Antico district, burning their electoral roll cards and throwing them into the sea.
Juve, maar geen basisspelerquote:Op zondag 7 augustus 2005 13:54 schreef RedGuy het volgende:
Hoe zit het nou met Kovac, is die nou naar Juve of speelt ie nog bij Bayern?.
quote:Genoa cry 'Conspiracy!'
Anxiously awaiting their fate, Genoa have now launched accusations of a pre-meditated campaign against them and asked for the match-fixing trial to be scrapped.
The club has been demoted to Serie C1 and docked three points as a result of a match-fixing enquiry into the final game of the season, a 3-2 victory over Venezia that put them into the top flight.
Their appeal was heard by the CAF (Federal Court of Appeal) on Friday and a verdict is expected between this evening and Monday morning, but the entire situation could be plunged into uncertainty yet again.
“On Friday, while our lawyers were stating their case, some of the CAF judges were passing each other little notes than were then torn up and put in the bin,” accused President Enrico Preziosi in a dramatic Press Conference.
“This was all caught on camera and everyone noticed the odd behaviour. We fished the pieces out and put them back together again. The notes said, ‘Exclude from Serie B. The Federal Counsel will then assign them to either C1, C2 or the amateur Leagues.’ As you can see, the verdict was written before we even got the chance to state our case.”
Preziosi even photocopied the torn shreds of paper and passed them out to the members of the Press, demanding that the CAF trial be made null and void.
“We ask the sporting justice system to give dignity back to a trial that has certainly lost sight of its principles,” added lawyer Crippa. “We believe that the only course of action is to wipe out the entire procedure and start again.”
The evidence against Genoa piled up over the weeks since a Venezia general manager was caught leaving Preziosi’s office with a suitcase that contained £170,000 cash.
It was claimed this was an advance for Ruben Maldonado’s move, but the player knew nothing of the transfer. A series of telephone conversations between Preziosi and Venezia President Franco Dal Cin were also taped.
quote:Tim Cup: Genoa-Alessandria sospesa al 25'
GENOA: Russo (c), Di Maio, Ghomsi, Magelli, Borghese, Panizzolo, Feussi, Colurcio (vc), Mazzei, Volpara, Renzetti. A disposizione: Corti, Grea, Toma, Paparella, Marantino, Albanese, Cotelessa. All. Torrente.
CATANZARO: Belardi, Zini, Pierotti (vc), Miceli, De Simone, Ceccarelli, Myrtaj, Calzi, Corona (c), Morello, Folino. A disposizione: D'Urso, Caroleo, Ticli, Ottonello, Mancuso, Sorrentino, Piemontese. All. Buso.
ARBITRO: Dondarini (Finale Emilia).
NOTE: spettatori circa 2.000. Prima della partita è stato osservato un minuto di raccoglimento per la scomparsa dell'ex attaccante rossoblù Giuliano Fiorini.
Alessandria - Inizia tra i cori e gli incoraggiamenti dei sostenitori genoani l'avventura in Tim Cup dei grifoncini di mister Torrente, impossibilitato a dirigere dal campo le manovre dei suoi per impedimenti di ordine regolamentare. Nonostante la falcidie di assenze legata a infortuni (Moschella e Villacaro) e tesseramenti non ancora esecutivi (Antonelli, Botta, Cremona, Ferrando, Ferrara, Rocca e Zenga) di un bel gruppo di titolari, i rossoblù partono a spron battuto impensierendo i calabresi già al 4'. E' Renzetti sulla sinistra a inserire il turbo e mettere nel mezzo, il traversone è raccolto dalla testa di Feussi, ma il pallone sorvola la traversa a portiere superato. Il caldo si fa sentire, ma le squadre si affrontano a viso aperto e la partita è piacevole sino alla sospensione decretata dall'arbitro al 25'. Dagli spalti piovono sul terreno alcuni razzi e petardi, e il direttore di gara dopo sei minuti di attesa fischia la chiusura definitiva dei giochi, accertata la mancanza delle condizioni per proseguire. I ragazzi di mister Torrente, prima di rientrare negli spogliatoi, vanno sotto la curva dei supporter genoani che gridano "serie A, serie A..".
Zlatan-goal was een wereldgoal. Volley van 40-50 meter in de kruising gelanceerd vanaf de linkervleugel.quote:Op zondag 7 augustus 2005 13:16 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Speciaal even uitgeselecteerd voor Methodmich:
Benfica - Juve 0-2, Zlaten En Trezegoal.
Juve heeft toch een ijzersterke basis staan weer hoor:
Zlatan - Trezeguet
Nedved-Emerson-Vieira-Camoranesi
Zambrotta-Cannavaro-Thuram-Zebina
Buffon
En dan zitten spelers als Del Piero, Mutu, Olivera, Chiellini, Giannichedda etc. gewoon op de bank.
quote:Genoa, Caf respinge il ricorso
ROMA, 8 agosto 2005 - La Commissione d'Appello Federale, presieduta da Cesare Martellino, ha respinto tutti i ricorsi presentati in merito al caso-Genoa, confermando così la decisione adottata dalla Commissione Disciplinare della Lega. Dunque per il Genoa retrocessione in serie C e tre punti di penalizzazione da scontare nella prossima stagione. Confermati cinque anni di squalifica per Dal Cin e per il presidente del Genoa Preziosi, sei mesi per il giocatore Lejsal e cinque per Borgobello.
quote:Genoa appeal rejected
Genoa's appeal against their demotion to Serie C1, which was imposed following allegations of match-fixing, has been rejected.
The appeals commission of the Italian Football Federation has rejected all the appeals relating to the case and confirmed that all sanctions imposed against the club and officials would stand.
The Rossoblu, who have won nine Scudetti, gained promotion back to Serie A last season after a decade away.
However, last month they were sent down to Serie C1 after a probe into their 3-2 win over Venezia on the final day of the Serie B season.
The five-year bans handed out to club president Enrico Preziosi and general manager Stefano Capozucca also still stand.
Genoa will start next season with a three point penalty and they face further disciplinary action after more controversy on Sunday.
Their Coppa Italia tie against Catanzaro on Sunday was abandoned after 21 minutes when Genoa fans threw flares on to the pitch.
Zeker zonde, heb wel een zwak voor die club sinds we in '92 tegen ze gespeeld hebben.quote:Op maandag 8 augustus 2005 12:40 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:
Au, zonde wel hoor voor Genoa...
! goed.quote:Op maandag 8 augustus 2005 14:26 schreef Afunados het volgende:
Roma heeft hoger beroep gewonnen en mag weg in- en verkopen
Altijd leuk, voetballenquote:Op dinsdag 9 augustus 2005 08:00 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Gisteravond enorme rellen in Genova geweest tussen Ultras en de politie, met molotovscocktails en zware vuurwerkbommen en al.
En genoa wil nu proberen de kalender op te schuivne om een civiele procedure te starten.
Salernitana claimt dat als ze nu weer hun (laatste) beroep verliezen, ze naar het Europees hof stappen.
En Vicenza claimt de plek van Genoa in B, omdat Genoa teruggezet is naar de laatste plek zou Vicenza dus 1 plekje hoger geeindigd zijn immers...
is allemaal tactiek, wat er in de zomerstop gebeurd in Italiequote:
Wat?quote:Op dinsdag 9 augustus 2005 11:19 schreef Afunados het volgende:
Om moe van te worden.
quote:New season fixtures on hold
Thursday’s proposed formulation of the new season’s fixtures has been stopped as a result of Genoa’s on-going struggle to avoid demotion.
The calendars for the 2005-06 campaign were set to be published later this week, but that now looks unlikely to happen.
A Genoa tribunal court has successfully ordered the Italian Football Federation to suspend the composition of the fixtures.
The move comes just 24 hours after Genoa failed in their attempts to be re-instated into the Italian top-flight.
The port club were demoted to the Third Division earlier this summer, after the Serie B champions were found guilty of alleged match-fixing in the final game of last term against Venezia.
The Stadio Marassi outfit unsuccessfully appealed to the Federal Appeal Commission (CAF) on Monday which seemed to bring an end to the saga.
But the Italian season has been thrown into further chaos, with just 19 days to go before the scheduled start, as Genoa are now attempting to prove their innocence with the help of a civil court.
"There have been other situations in football in which different measures have been taken to that of Genoa," said Alessandro Repetto, President of the Genoa Province.
"Several come to mind, such as (Roma's Philippe) Mexes' case, and (Juve doctor Riccardo) Agricola's case.
"We hope that we can suspend the sporting sentence by taking our case to Genoa's tribunal."
It’s unclear at this stage what the Federation will do or when we will definitely know which sides will be playing in what Division next term.
Meanwhile, Genoa have been handed a one-game home stadium ban after their fans caused the abandonment of their Coppa Italia tie over the weekend.
Fans threw flares on to the pitch in protest at their demotion, resulting in Catanzaro being handed a 3-0 victory and safe passage to the next round.
quote:[b]Messina safe, Toro turfed out Tuesday 9 August, 2005
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Messina have won their final appeal and will play in Serie A, but the top flight closes its doors to Torino.
The Sicilian club had originally been excluded from the Division due to financial irregularities, but the TAR tribunal of Lazio accepted their appeal that the paperwork was valid and today’s State Counsel decision also went their way.
Bologna and the FIGC had lodged motions to push Messina out of Serie A, a move which would’ve promoted the Rossoblu in their place.
“This is a great victory for sport,” stated Messina President Pietro Franza. “My first thoughts are for the players who have suffered and held out during this pre-season uncertainty. There were moments of real tension, but they are over now. It’s our duty to win back the credibility that our image has lost in recent weeks and strengthen the squad in the final days of the transfer market.”
Torino were not so fortunate, as their appeal has again been rejected and the club will not be able to play in Serie A this season. The Granata’s registration included a bank draft covering a £26m debt, but it later proved to be false. Accepting that Toro were not aware of this, they were given extra time to find the financial guarantees, but were unable to do so.
The Stadio Delle Alpi squad will nonetheless apply for the ‘Lodo Petrucci’, a rule allowing a bankrupt club to start again in a lower Division with new owners, so Torino will return to Serie B despite their promotion.
Perugia and Salernitana have also been excluded from Serie B, while Benevento (C1), Imolese and Rosetana (C2) are ruled out. The State Counsel did accept the appeals put forward by Gela and Sassari Torres, who will play in Serie C1.
With the Lodo Petrucci in mind, Perugia can drop down to Serie C1, while Napoli’s many appeals against a series of clubs have not helped them emerge from the same Division.
Volgens mij mogen ze weer kopen totdat het hoger beroep wordt behandeld.quote:Op woensdag 10 augustus 2005 13:36 schreef the_legend_killer het volgende:
Mag AS Roma nu gewoon weer spelers kopen of krijgen ze alleen de spelers die ze al hebben aangetrokken ?
Volgens mij het laatste he , maar ik wist het niet zeker.
quote:Genoa force fixture list freeze
Genoa’s legal battle has forced the postponement of the Serie A and B fixture lists, but FIGC President Franco Carraro insists they belong in the Third Division.
“The 2005-06 campaign is set to kick off on August 28 and we will stick to that date,” announced Carraro this evening. “We have postponed the drawing up of the calendars in order to allow the courts to do their job in the best atmosphere.”
The fixture lists were originally set to be drawn on Thursday, but that meeting has been called off and the most optimistic suggestion for a reschedule is August 19 – just over a week before the season begins.
Genoa’s legal battle against their demotion to Serie C1 as a result of a match-fixing scandal has called in the civil courts and blocked any further procedures to begin a top flight campaign without them.
“Genoa’s decision to go to the civil courts has done serious damage on a sporting, moral and economic level to all of Italian football,” added an angry Carraro.
“We cannot delay the start of the season past August 28, as it would constitute a violation of the rules set out by the Government, the CONI (Italian Olympic Committee) and international football organisations.”
The FIGC had in theory protected itself from this sort of interference with the Urbani-Pescante ruling that stated the only courts with jurisdiction over sporting matters were the Lazio TAR tribunal, the CAF Federal Court of Appeal and the State Counsel. However, Genoa’s appeal to their local TAR has succeeded in at least temporarily halting their punishment following the match-fixing trial.
“The tribunal simply does not have jurisdiction over sporting matters,” added the FIGC chief. “Genoa’s case is one of sporting irregularities. It is the duty of the Federation to apply the laws of its own sport. It’s not a question of wanting to do this or not – there is no alternative. Rules must be respected. Genoa will be deferred to the Disciplinary Commission for taking this action and could earn another penalty, forcing them to start Serie C1 with a six-point deduction rather than three.”
There are now rumours that Genoa’s battle will force Serie A to expand to 21 teams, much as Serie B did when Catania staged a legal challenge through a succession of civil courts two summers ago.
“The Federation rules state that to change the format of a Division we need at least a year’s advance, so that is out of the question,” he answered.
Genoa is not the only problem at hand, as Reggina are also under investigation for paperwork they used to register for the new season. Bologna have launched an appeal and the Covisoc will meet on Thursday or Friday to discuss the matter.
These are the teams that will be in Serie A and B next season, pending the result of Genoa’s civil court action and the investigation on Reggina:
SERIE A
Ascoli, Cagliari, Chievo, Empoli, Fiorentina, Inter, Juventus, Lazio, Lecce, Livorno, Messina, Milan, Palermo, Parma, Reggina, Roma, Sampdoria, Siena, Treviso, Udinese
SERIE B:
Albinoleffe, Arezzo, Atalanta, Avellino, Bari, Bologna, Brescia, Catania, Catanzaro, Cesena, Cremonese, Crotone, Mantova, Modena, Pescara, Piacenza, Rimini, Ternana, Torino, Triestina, Verona, Vicenza
Figo heeft Andy's rugnummer al ingepikt.quote:Op donderdag 11 augustus 2005 12:20 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
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Espanol zou nu in de running zou voor Mandy op huurbasis btw.
Hij moet natuurlijk wel nog een club vinden die hem een huis aanbiedt met ruimte voor z'n paardquote:Op donderdag 11 augustus 2005 12:35 schreef the_legend_killer het volgende:
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Figo heeft Andy's rugnummer al ingepikt.
Dus de kans dat Andy echt vertrekt wordt dus steeds groter.
Daarom dat hij dus niet naar Monaco gingquote:Op donderdag 11 augustus 2005 12:50 schreef Afunados het volgende:
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Hij moet natuurlijk wel nog een club vinden die hem een huis aanbiedt met ruimte voor z'n paard![]()
En hij blijft ook in het doel staan. Denk dat een keeper als Marchegiani nuttig is voor z'n ontwikkeling en tevens een degelijke stand-in voor Curci.quote:Op donderdag 11 augustus 2005 21:34 schreef the_legend_killer het volgende:
- Roma zou een overgang bespreken van........ Marchegiani
Ik las het ook al eens toen de transferban nog geldig was...
De Roma fans vonden het niet zo erghij brengt ervaring he , want nu staat de 20 jarige Curci in de goal.
marchegiani is nog steeds een verdomd goede keeper, zou zeker een aanwinst zijn!quote:Op donderdag 11 augustus 2005 21:34 schreef the_legend_killer het volgende:
- Roma zou een overgang bespreken van........ Marchegiani
Ik las het ook al eens toen de transferban nog geldig was...
De Roma fans vonden het niet zo erghij brengt ervaring he , want nu staat de 20 jarige Curci in de goal.
idd ik vond ze altijd best sympathiek maar de laatste jaren echt niet meer... zonde dat andy er nog steeds (niet) speelt....quote:Op zaterdag 13 augustus 2005 13:45 schreef pfaf het volgende:
Figo naar Inter is overigens wéér een reden om die tering club te hekelen.
Idd !quote:Op zaterdag 13 augustus 2005 13:44 schreef snellejelle het volgende:
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marchegiani is nog steeds een verdomd goede keeper, zou zeker een aanwinst zijn!
Dat wilde ik horenquote:Op woensdag 17 augustus 2005 15:04 schreef stevengerrard het volgende:
maar ik doe nog steeds mee hoor
Wie die paar woordjes al niet begrijpt...quote:Op woensdag 17 augustus 2005 17:11 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:
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Misschien was al dat Italiaans in mijn post toch niet zo'n goed idee...
Sorry snellejelle, maar Ascoli is voorbehouden aan CherrymoonTraxx als die meedoet. Zo niet, dan kom je in aanmerking.quote:Op donderdag 18 augustus 2005 12:08 schreef snellejelle het volgende:
Doet u mij Ascoli maarwe zullen milan eens laten zien wat voetbal is
btw, moet je verder nog iets doen als 'mister' zijnde
Ja graag, het kopieren lukte op e.o.a. manier nie tbij m'n zwager, dus je hebt nu het origineel.quote:Op woensdag 17 augustus 2005 16:45 schreef MaxPower het volgende:
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DIGGER, je DVD is via Dylan Dog aangekomen... geen Nederland - Duitsland voor mij vanavond!![]()
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