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Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 23:14 schreef Gatts het volgende:

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Could you please answer this one?
Didn't I?
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
  woensdag 25 augustus 2004 @ 23:40:33 #202
6941 APK
Factual, I think.
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Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 22:54 schreef EarthSister het volgende:

Hai, APK. Sorry to make you wait for my response. I am answering in order as well as I can. Maybe I missed somebody by accident.
No probs.
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Is that a picture of you for your avatar?
Erm, no that's Mr Beckham, a soccerplayer who, btw, shot a football into orbit during the last European championships.
Maybe if one of your friends encounters it, it could be given back to it's rightful owner.
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Yes, that is a helmet. Zylem's race is the race we humans came from.

I don't know what a fat chill is, but Zylem is a man, in case it means something sexy. Maybe I should draw him over again?
Fat chill means something like 'cool', nothing sexual about it, although he looks a bit like a Thai lady-boy, so no need to draw him again.

I found it slightly odd that he's carrying the crash helmet, while the rest of his outfit looks like it's been purchased at your local H&M's
Like he just stepped of his moped or something.

Thanks for your answers.
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
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Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 13:13 schreef sweetgirly het volgende:
Very interesting topic, whether is truth or not, the information and your devotion in a open (minded) and quit way is great.[/orange]

Thank you very much for your candid support.

[quote] is there a particular reason that aliens (if they exist or not, in my opion that's even not a issue in this question) come to some particular people? Or do they not? Is there a connection between alien contact, the time when there a visiting you, come to you, or is there not?
Yes, there is a very strict order by which the alien races can personally contact individual humans. The aliens can only "disrupt" the lives of their own related humans, to offer the opportunity to accept and progress with contact for the purpose of bringing our worlds together. Among those related to the alien races, few can or will accept contact and progress with it on a physical level. Still, all humans who are related to alien life have some extent of contact, but most of them are kept unaware of it to respect the contactee's life and wishes. Most who have contact continue to see their alien contacts through life but not with any ongoing, daily participation in the plans to open contact with our world.

There is a direct connection between alien contact and the time in our lives when they make themselves known to us, how often they visit and what kinds of things we work on together with them. The hopeful plans are made before our lifetimes, and then in the process of our lives we work with those plans as well as we can, considering all the confusion and distractions that come with trying to live a normal life while doing things openly that most other people around us disagree with, and make us look like "fruitcakes" to our families and peers.

Every alien experiencer's role is different, just as to run a factory everyone's role is different. Nobody can do everything, and every part is a vital piece of the whole. Progress can only roll as fast and as well as the individuals work together as a whole. My role is as a public speaker. The things I am taught by my alien contacts are designed for the purpose of helping others, especially other alien experiencers, their families and the professional investigators. Many people who work with alien life do it in private, and in private they are protected from the abuse of government agencies and public opinion. Most people who have the opportunity to work with alien life are too scared and confused and cannot and will not even consider it when offered. Our instincts of fear are great, and the propaganda and public opinion are great against them.
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Why do you think they come to you? And why do you think they're not coming to some other people (apart from the question if they've noticed already and want to noticed)? What is the relation between that? And for others, I'm not talking about psychical diseases or something in that order, just curiousity.
They come to me because I volunteered before my life, and came here for this purpose. After that, they come to me because I am able to comprehend them due to my natural abilities that are in part of my spiritual heritage, my natural relationship with them. But mostly they come to me because I want with all my heart and soul to help the progress of bringing understanding of alien life to our human race, and to help the progress of uniting our worlds. I am willing and trustworthy to relay information with integrity, so among all those who have this opportunity, I am one of a few who are given a great deal of teaching by the alien races. It sounds strange, I know, but every world arrives at this point early in their natural evolution, as we are right now. Not all races have as much difficulties with infighting and propaganda as we do though.
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Next question, to throw a film in it . What are the signs? And are there (maybe really) some signs then? Or not? What are the things or are there maybe things to (wanna) let you now there exist, there's more, etc. That they are alive ('we are alive, you stubborn human being, is that now not even clear for you', hehe, little dramatic touch from my alienside).
Haha, you got that right that humans are stubborn

There are some signs to look for, but mostly if the aliens want you to know that you have contact, they will make it abundantly clear. And if they do not want you to know, or to know yet, they hide it from you. I have a page on my site that lists some of the things I look for in helping others determine whether they have personal alien contact. They are not criteria, but signs I can go by to make a good guess. A few key indications together are strongly indicative of contact, as well as a few together are indicative of no alien contact: http://www.theprojectatearth.com/ContacteeQuiz.html. See if you can tell which ones go together.

You either have contact or you don't. If you do, you can discover it. If you try to discover it, your alien contacts may let you know it now or at some time in the future. In any case, we are all having "experiences" with many people all of the time, not just alien experiencers meeting with alien life. There is a great deal to discover in our spiritual existence, actively engaged daily and nightly. Look for the aliens, and you will discover your spiritual activities, no matter what they are, aliens or no aliens.

Right now, the aliens can only make contact with their individual human relations. Random contact is very rare and only circumstantial. However, every human is concerned with the visitation to our race and world, and in the future of our open relationship more often unrelated humans will have casual and professional alien contact.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
  donderdag 26 augustus 2004 @ 00:41:36 #204
6941 APK
Factual, I think.
pi_21548000
The link didn'd work, because of the full stop after the URL.

http://www.theprojectatearth.com/ContacteeQuiz.html
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
  donderdag 26 augustus 2004 @ 01:00:42 #205
61944 Freeflyer
Vallen doet geen pijn...
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Hi EarthSister,

I am still a bit sceptical about what you say, nonetheless I do have a question for you;

The alien races are trying to make contact with us (inhabitants of planet earth) to make sure we all can live in peace and harmony. Personally i believe that it is impossible to have peace and harmony due to our energy consumption of fossile fuels and in the near future the lack of those.

Our visitors have other sources of energy generation. Why haven't they shared their techniques with us? It would be a major improvement for planet earth and a great step towards a peacefull live.
Neerkomen wel!
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Hai, Xrenity and to your friend.
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Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 15:26 schreef Xrenity het volgende:
Some questions from a friend of mine which can't seem to register here
1. what do you think of the disclosure project, are they speaking the truth?
Originally, Steven Greer was purely motivated. I have talked with him several times in forums on the Internet before his project launched. He may still be purely motivated personally, but obviously his project's progress has waned. My suspicion is that he is pressured by the government.

The US government will "never" disclose its crimes or corrupt activities about anything, including those concerning our visiting races.
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2. Do you know about these books : www.cwg.org , and what do you think of them?
I know about them. My opinion is my own, that they are not channelings from God. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. There are too many errors in the writings, which few are a matter of my own knowledge. I do not believe that God "channels" through individuals in this way. If God did that, then anybody could claim to also be doing it for God. I believe that God works in many ways through any or all individuals, just not in this particular way. It is always good to do good things, and many good people have very good ideas and advice. To claim that it comes directly from God can still be misleading for personal reasons of famous gains. I have seen it happen many times in many ways in the circles of people I meet with. There are too many suppositions among the human groups to "channeling" and to claim to be doing it, and without educating an audience against it are telling clues to who is preying on those easily led. Good messages are not honest when they mislead anybody, however well-meaning. They undermine the natures of life just as we are trying to learn them.
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3. Is is true that time does not exist, and is just an illusion made my humans? Do aliens live their life by following a 'clock', just like we are?
Time does exist, but does not exist "the way humans think of it." Time is not linear, but a circle. Time is also dimensional. The advanced races live by a clock, but not based on our concepts of time. This is the way it has been explained very simply to me by my alien friends, but please do not assume that I understand it better than you can.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
  donderdag 26 augustus 2004 @ 01:05:44 #207
6941 APK
Factual, I think.
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 01:00 schreef Freeflyer het volgende:
Our visitors have other sources of energy generation. Why haven't they shared their techniques with us? It would be a major improvement for planet earth and a great step towards a peacefull live.
I don't think Mr Bush, his friends and their bank-accounts would be too happy with that.
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
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[quote]Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 00:41 schreef APK het volgende:
The link didn'd work, because of the full stop after the URL.


Thank you, Mr Beckham, I mean APK.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
  donderdag 26 augustus 2004 @ 01:17:49 #209
59136 Aurora025
1649 - Siege of Drogheda
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Nancy, from all the photographs of aliens on the internet there must be at least one which is authentic. Isn't is possible that you show us a real photograph of an alien that circles on the internet.
Do you have photographs of the aliens at home?
The Irish Massacre was incited by the Jesuits on October 23, 1641, the feast day of Ignatius Loyola, and lasted until Oliver Cromwell landed in Drogheda in 1649 to put an end to it.
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Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 15:51 schreef IronSkull het volgende:
I just don't believe all of this.....

Why a spokesman? If they are a technologically advanced race, then they would decipher our languages and make their plans official themselves.... human spokesmen would just be called crazy, wouldn't be believed... AND there could be misunderstandings... no, they must've seen that spokesmen are not useful.
It's all right if you don't believe, but don't give up. This is very hard to explain. To understand it yourself, think the possibility all the way through to the end result. You don't know what the aliens are like, but you do know what humans are like. Think of how humans you see daily behave, and how each faction of the systems of humanity is behaving about alien contact.

Spokesmen are key because they offer open understanding without any possibility of trickery. And because unfortunately our leaders and those who work for them are invested in ruining any true, shared information. The alien races' attempts to open contact between our worlds is taken by our leaders as a threat to the way our leaders run our world. If you depend on the professionals in leadership to share information of alien life to the publics, all you get is propaganda. The aliens have to go behind the leaders' backs to the individuals who are willing to handle the information for all. This puts those individuals in danger of harassment and worse from those who do not want the truth shared.

Education is imperative, because without being able to see, hear and consider evidence and true information for ourselves, we are at the mercy of those who feed us. In the information that comes directly from the aliens, there is always some degree of misunderstanding. The concepts are so vastly advanced and dynamic, that learning a little bit creates more confusion as it comes. It takes time to learn things. It takes time to learn enough more things to actually understand things past taught. The process is step by step. If our BEST scientists and investigators were not controlled by government, they could be helping all of us understand, instead of keeping us confused with "It was a weather balloon."

Without personal experience and education being dotted throughout our publics by the aliens, despite government police, we have no personal reason to believe anything the aliens say anyway. The leading government agencies can just announce, "The aliens are here, lock all doors, do not approach! This is an invasion!" as they fire a few missiles, light a few fires and drop a few bombs around for effect. What good would that do for education or awareness of the aliens' intentions? All of the damage that would be done by that way of contact would take a very long time to undo, before we could progress back to the point we were at when so many people were still looking up at the sky asking, "What aliens?"
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If an advanced race would come here to help us, they would know they had to show some proof of their knowledge and technology, to make sure people would believe them. I won't believe someone has visited us, until they come here and say so themselves....
You are right. But that "proof" better prove the right thing to us, before the aliens show up for all to see. Otherwise, when we see them, it will only prove to us what the governments tell us about them.

Evidence of the visitation of alien life is all over our planet and throughout our histories. If people have never had the personal experience of knowing the aliens and what they are like yet, and so loyally and blindly will believe the professional explanation "It was space ice." then how can we convince them their governments are lying?

Belief is not the most important thing right now. Belief can happen in a heartbeat and does for the increasing numbers of individuals who have personal contact, and the small groups of people who are watching the skies. But education is vital and that takes time, investigation, listening, talking and considering the possibilities for ourselves.

Don't believe everything you hear, but don't settle for anything less than your own education. The evidence part is easy. Just look around. Watch the news. Watch the sky.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
  donderdag 26 augustus 2004 @ 01:54:14 #211
6941 APK
Factual, I think.
pi_21548972
EarthSister, aren't you afraid the government might come after you, since you're sharing your knowledge
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
pi_21549079
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 00:41 schreef APK het volgende:
The link didn'd work, because of the full stop after the URL.

http://www.theprojectatearth.com/ContacteeQuiz.html
I just wanted to say that APK: 'without the mark (stip) it does work'.

Thank you very much for answering the questions Earthsister.
Only I did the test, and uhm, I answered almost all the questions with yes . I do not want to say it to loud, cause else maybe people can say: 'then you belong to a mental institution'. (joke for myself, for somebody elses do ). But I have the strong feeling that I'm not crazy (well a little maybe , but who's not?), the other opportunity ('s) I remain open.

I also have one question (or 2 maybe). I do not want to make it more for now, because you are already so busy. Once I saw, on a very normal day, sowell (what is the word in English for this, I forget ) for myself and in the sky, nice wheather etc, a sort of light that collapse in the sky. The sky was blue, I was walking to the busstation, looked up, and it was like a piece of the sky was opened, sort of light-exploiting, but in a certain quit way, like I don't must miss it. Arghhh, my English.

Oh, and it was very beautiful. But for a moment, when I look to it and saw it, I was a little shocked. I also for a second thought something of: 'this is it, they're coming of they are here' . The strange thing was, that I found it (later) not so strange, but on the other hand, what must and can you do when you see something..nothing. It looks almost normal. Looked around me, and everything was also normal, including me, life just goes on. So strange. Yes, that was strange that it was not so strange.

And later ocurred the thought in my mind that maybe I have something with my brains (yes, to much movies seen maybe). But I also think there's nothing wrong with that. Stronger, I haven't had headaches for over a year now (and I was a migraine-patient), sometimes (read: 1 to 3 times) a little, but that dissapeared very fast when I noticed the headache.

But well, I have a list of these things, all a little strange, but for me somethings not so strange, like I somewhere deep in my mind knew that it (this or that) gonna happened, and it did or it didn't surprise me so much (like maybe a other human shit the chicken out of him), I don't now if you can follow me on this. And somethings I'm so sure of that it was no (t my) imagination. One time I also have seen 3 beings or whatever they are, by my bed. The thing I most wondered of by this, was that I was so tired. In one of the first reactions in this topic somebody also mentioned this, and in my mind occured the words 'greys' and when I read further you mentioned then the greys. But that's coincidence. I was so tired and exhausted that I thought something of: 'well, let it be then', like I was able to do something about it, not. And I didn't have also the energy for it then.

I only hope that if they were beings (interdimensional beings or whatever ), that the intention was not to harm me. And like you also already said, really do not want to harm any people. But my question then, why I was then so exhausted (my whole body did, muzzles everything and I didn't have sport or something that day or night ?). For the rest I was feeling (very) good and (or but) sometimes (very) confused. A few times a little exhausted on school (but who's not ), like I was in the night or when I was dreaming doing all sort of things.

I also have the question for myself if ears have something to do with it, noises etc. I know in out of body expierences they (can) have a connection with it, is there also a connection in this maybe? Arghhh, when I think of it, it's almost to grazy for words . The feeling I have of all of this was a little that I was struggle to not lose myself, but I lost the fight or not that's the question (ok, now I'm being a little dramatic).

It was that a overwhelming sound everytime comes when I was lying in my bed (and spikkles and etc..pfff), that occured when I was relaxed lying waiting for sleep to come, then the noises come etc etc. Almost like they (sometimes) tease me with it or something like that ('you musn't fall in sleep'), sometimes that also have occured in my mind. But in another way it also can be that I wás losing myself in a way, meditation or BDE, name it, but then aware of it (that it gonna happened), hard to explain. My thoughts dissapeared or want to dissapear, and then maybe come the noises etc. How harder I tried, it all didn't work, 'it' was to strong. But I'm now gonna stop.

Again, thanx for your time and answers.
Goodnight.

[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door sweetgirly op 26-08-2004 03:06:52 (my grammatic :{) ]
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 01:17 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
Nancy, from all the photographs of aliens on the internet there must be at least one which is authentic. Isn't is possible that you show us a real photograph of an alien that circles on the internet.
Do you have photographs of the aliens at home?
Hai, Aurora

I have seen many photographs of alleged alien beings. I have never seen an authentic photograph of an alien being. I do not have one either. It's not allowed.

There are many photographs and videos of alien crafts though. I don't have one, though.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
pi_21549277
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Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 16:10 schreef APK het volgende:
Dear EarthSister,

Do alien races have any concept of humour?
If so, do you know any jokes they tell about us earthlings?
Yes, they have a great love for humor! And they are so smart, that makes them even funnier to us. When they are with me and my husband, they are almost always "all business" but every once in a while we get a treat of some personal time with them. Some of the funniest things they do is tease each other. Then the expressions on their faces, looking at each other, in conjunction with their inaudible telepathy is surprising and shocking kind of funny.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
pi_21549468
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Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 16:10 schreef APK het volgende:
Dear EarthSister,

Do alien races have any concept of humour?
If so, do you know any jokes they tell about us earthlings?
Oops. They don't really tell jokes cold, at least not to us during our meetings, but sometimes they make jokes in conversation. Sometimes they have played tricks on us, but that is not the standard way things go during our formal meetings. I will share some of the things another time, only because they are so unreal sounding, they seem even more impossible to hear them told.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
  donderdag 26 augustus 2004 @ 02:43:50 #216
6941 APK
Factual, I think.
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 02:23 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
Then the expressions on their faces, looking at each other, in conjunction with their inaudible telepathy is surprising and shocking kind of funny.
that's more like mime then.
Just my luck.
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
  donderdag 26 augustus 2004 @ 02:47:19 #217
6941 APK
Factual, I think.
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 02:41 schreef EarthSister het volgende:

Oops. They don't really tell jokes cold, but they make jokes in conversation. Sometimes they have played tricks on us, but that is not the standard way things go during our meetings. I will share some of the things another time, only because they are so unreal sounding, they seem even more impossible to hear them told.
That sounds better.

I've got another question, it might sound really stupid, but....
Are they involved in sports?
You know, like we have the Olympics for earhtlings.
Do they compete against other races from different planets?
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
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Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 16:41 schreef CrackerJack het volgende:

You also talk about crop circles, why are aliens making them? If they are making them to tell something, why don't they come out in public?
The authentic ones the aliens make are coded messages. Many you ever see today are fakes made by human special interest groups.

The alien races make them to create for us a written history of visitation and intention. They are coded so that they cannot be decyphered yet. If they could be decyphered, then any humans could fake more of them and claim they are authentic. By the time we decypher them, they will tell a long story about the aliens, where they come from and why.
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Oh, and if I may ask, why do you come to a dutch speaking forum if there are so many others in your native language?
I speak in many places on line and off line. I saw this forum on my hit counter for my site and followed it in to see what was being said. I found a nice forum of interesting members, so I decided to post.

Everyone all over the world needs to hear about the alien races whether they believe about them or not. I just go with the flow.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
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Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 21:35 schreef lplover het volgende:
I've once seen something on the tv about a boy that lived in Brabant (province) I believe. He was always followed by balls of light. They flew around in his garden. His parents and family have also seen this. He once went out to a crop field at night (I believe he saw something) and there he saw a ball of light approching him and then he passed out. When he woke up again he was laying in a cropcircle.
Are these balls of light aliens? And do these balls of light make cropcircles?
Iplover

Some of the alien races have shapes of balls of light as well as their people shape.

But it sounds to me as if the claims about this boy are not accurate because the stories, or perhaps just the way the stories are told, sound like folly.

The alien beings are not hanging around create mysteries. They are diligent in thier work. To make a boy wake up in a crop circle just sounds like added detail for sensationalism. People do that all the time in the telling and retelling over and over by the time you hear it. It's not your fault, but look at how you said it here and others will be interested and repeat it in another place. That's how it happens. No stories about anything are ever safe from the retelling.

Alien beings make the authentic crop circles, but they use technology to make them. I do not think that they fly over crops as balls of light and make them. But I do not know or experience everything either. Perhaps some alien crafts look like balls of light and some alien beings fly them down over crops to make patterns. I am open to the possibility, but the stories of this boy still sound like they are sensational, whether rooted in truth or not. It is too hard to tell.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
pi_21550004
Hai, P8. Great questions.
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Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 05:27 schreef P8 het volgende:
Hi, i've got a few questions, one is already asked but i couldnt find an answer anywhere: Why are the aliens contacting individuals. why arent they showing themselves in the media? Not that they should join David Letterman, but isnt it a lot easier to show themselves in public?
I recently addressed this more in depth on this thread. Let me know if you can't find it.
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Another question: How many years are these races in advance of us, and how old is the eldest, thus the most advanced, race?
The races that visit Earth are hundreds of thousands, millions, and billions of years further advanced and evolved than we are. The oldest race that visits Earth is over 6 billion years.
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And my last question: You probably heard about the NPCC_full.wmv file. A congres about aliens from the National Press Club. Is this in any way related to you and your husbands story? and if so, at what points?
I do not know what this is, so I suspect Jack and I have nothing to do with it.
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edit: And just out of curiousity: Do aliens make love the way we know it?
Yes. All races of people are males and females and procreate in the same basic way.
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Sorry if i sound a bit skeptical, but you can't blame me or anyone else of that, since *refers to my first question*

yours sincerely
I don't blame anyone for disbelief. I understand. If it was not happening to me I would not believe it either. No problem, really.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
pi_21550025
P8, more good questions.
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Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 06:10 schreef P8 het volgende:
im filled with questions, sorry about that , i just came up with another 3 im dying to ask.
1. why are the aliens trying to contact us now, why not 200 years ago or 200 years in the future?
The time is now because of the point we are at in our evolution. Look at everything around. Intelligence, world communication (Internet), rebellion against dictatorship, and NEED. It's time now, and we are capable of accepting contact now.
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and 2. Why are you using the internet for distribution of your experiences, wouldnt it be incredibly easy to take a good camera and make a few nice shots of them?
The Internet reaches out to those who want to hear it, all over the world. I speak in many different kind of places on line and in person. Any "proof" could be a trick, and you would not be able to tell one trick from another. The alien races offer no trick, and neither do I.

I teach. I don't prove. The aliens never allow photographs of themselves.
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and my last again : If i remember correctly, you have children, what do they think of all of this or do they have those experiences, too? although i can understand if you dont want to answer that question.
Jack and I have five children. They each have ongoing experiences with our alien friends. They are not comfortable publicly speaking except either one-on-one or in a closed alien experiencer group. Their experiences are very much like what mine and Jack's were like when we were their ages, except for the fact that our children have us to help them understand what is going on.

In some very important, futuristic ways, our children are already way ahead of us with integrating their alien experiences into their normal lives. I will be very excited to see what they do when they are all grown up.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
pi_21550030
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Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 09:48 schreef displission het volgende:
Earthsister will u also respond to my posts? Do the aliens speak about me? I'm 25 m Holland..

According to u " they" excist. What is according to u their purpose? What is their goal?
Hai, displission

My alien contacts have not discussed you with me.

The aliens' purpose of being here at Earth is to unite our worlds. Their goal is to build a diplomatic relationship with our world.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
pi_21550043
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 01:54 schreef APK het volgende:
EarthSister, aren't you afraid the government might come after you, since you're sharing your knowledge
APK

Afraid, yes and no. The govt agencies watch my family from time to time. They follow us and tap our phones. Sometimes we have had more serious trouble with them, but not anymore.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 05:13 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
APK

Afraid, yes and no. The govt agencies watch my family from time to time. They follow us and tap our phones. Sometimes we have had more serious trouble with them, but not anymore.
Do you mean the NSA, FBI or what? And what kind of questions do you have to awnser?

[ Bericht 5% gewijzigd door DrWolffenstein op 26-08-2004 06:55:46 ]
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Hi Earthsister, thanks for your efforts & patience.
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 01:05 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
Time does exist, but does not exist "the way humans think of it." Time is not linear, but a circle. Time is also dimensional. The advanced races live by a clock, but not based on our concepts of time. This is the way it has been explained very simply to me by my alien friends, but please do not assume that I understand it better than you can.
If you are interested in learning more about the subject, I would like to suggest you look them up in the Tao (Lao Tzu's "Tao te Ching") & buddhist (especially the writings from Nagarjuna) philosophies.
pi_21552800
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Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 23:27 schreef EarthSister het volgende:

[..]

Didn't I?
Sorry, i've overlooked it , but still thanks for the answer!
I'll come back on it later.
pi_21553768
dus de aliens komen bínnen 10 jaar, en zullen zich als eerste in tokyo laten zien.
ze willen van ons vriendschap, maar wij hebben geen technologie waar ze in zijn geinterreseerd.
er zijn heel veel rassen, en het oudste ras is 6 miljard jaar oud.
de aliens planten zich net zoals ons voort en hebben een goede humor door elkaar te dissen.

cool
Tri State. Tri State. !
pi_21554133
Hi Nancy,

What do the aliens think of the Asteroide "Toutatis"? Will it hit earth? And if it does, can they help us change it's course before it hits?

Thanks again for answering .
I used to work in a morgue........I am a people person
Only Human
pi_21554230
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:09 schreef _Supreme het volgende:
dus de aliens komen bínnen 10 jaar, en zullen zich als eerste in tokyo laten zien.
ze willen van ons vriendschap, maar wij hebben geen technologie waar ze in zijn geinterreseerd.
er zijn heel veel rassen, en het oudste ras is 6 miljard jaar oud.
de aliens planten zich net zoals ons voort en hebben een goede humor door elkaar te dissen.

cool
Tja, daar komt het, om het kort samen te vatten, wel op neer.

Weet je waar ik opeens aan zit te denken? De Maya's en hun '2012' ('tis immers binnen 10 jaar). Zou er een link (kunnen) zijn?
pi_21554245
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:24 schreef Morwen het volgende:
Hi Nancy,

What do the aliens think of the Asteroide "Toutatis"? Will it hit earth? And if it does, can they help us change it's course before it hits?

Thanks again for answering .
Deze heb ik al voor je beantwoord in Asteroid 4179 Toutatis
pi_21554446
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:30 schreef DonGorgon het volgende:

[..]

Deze heb ik al voor je beantwoord in Asteroid 4179 Toutatis
Ja, ik zag het, ja .

Maar ik hoor het ook graag van de ruimte-experts die de schat van dichtbij hebben gezien en zijn baan tot op de millimeter weten
I used to work in a morgue........I am a people person
Only Human
pi_21554640
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:41 schreef Morwen het volgende:

[..]

Ja, ik zag het, ja .

Maar ik hoor het ook graag van de ruimte-experts die de schat van dichtbij hebben gezien en zijn baan tot op de millimeter weten
Het antwoord kwam ook bij NASA vandaan. Als die de milimeters niet weten...
pi_21554725
dear nancy, thank you for answering my questions. but i have another one:
Why do you/everyone think the aliens look all the same. for example, somewhere in this topic you were asked whether you knew that kind of reptilian looking alien or not. You said you didnt. But why should they all look the same. we humans, are all unique in apperance. there are major differences between individuals. come to think about it, not only humans, but animals as well.
i can understand if they are all bold, since that's quite logical in evolution.
But there have to be individual differences between aliens i think.

ok, this wasnt really a question, but i'd like to see what you have to say about this

edit: And how's it possible that all aliens are humanoid?

[ Bericht 2% gewijzigd door P8 op 26-08-2004 15:00:30 ]
Extremistisch gematigd.
  donderdag 26 augustus 2004 @ 15:09:47 #234
91333 displission
||stockpile wierrook || +30 :)
pi_21557562
Hello Nancy

Thx for answering the questions.
een heks zorgt altijd voor een goede zak appels..twee groene en een bruine..zorg er als heks voor dat er een mooie rode in het midden legt en dat deze als eerste wordt gepakt omdat hij er smakelijk uitziet..Sluit het gesprek af met: eet smakelijk
  donderdag 26 augustus 2004 @ 15:35:43 #235
61944 Freeflyer
Vallen doet geen pijn...
pi_21558145
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 01:00 schreef Freeflyer het volgende:
Hi EarthSister,

I am still a bit sceptical about what you say, nonetheless I do have a question for you;

The alien races are trying to make contact with us (inhabitants of planet earth) to make sure we all can live in peace and harmony. Personally i believe that it is impossible to have peace and harmony due to our energy consumption of fossile fuels and in the near future the lack of those.

Our visitors have other sources of energy generation. Why haven't they shared their techniques with us? It would be a major improvement for planet earth and a great step towards a peacefull live.
Could you please answer my question. APK already gave an answer i suspected but i am interested in the fact if our foreign races ever discussed this subject with the two of you.

Many thanks !
Neerkomen wel!
pi_21565759
I removed some offtopic and idiotic reactions. Please dont start fights and arguments here... Also I would like to ask to post here in the english language, that way we can be sure that our guest Nancy can read every word
pi_21566056
Hai, sweetgirly. I am very happy and excited to read about your experiences. I only want to encourage you to learn to understand them as well as you can.
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 02:03 schreef sweetgirly het volgende:

Once I saw, on a very normal day, sowell (what is the word in English for this, I forget ) for myself and in the sky, nice wheather etc, a sort of light that collapse in the sky. The sky was blue, I was walking to the busstation, looked up, and it was like a piece of the sky was opened, sort of light-exploiting, but in a certain quit way, like I don't must miss it. Arghhh, my English.

Oh, and it was very beautiful. But for a moment, when I look to it and saw it, I was a little shocked. I also for a second thought something of: 'this is it, they're coming of they are here' . The strange thing was, that I found it (later) not so strange, but on the other hand, what must and can you do when you see something..nothing. It looks almost normal. Looked around me, and everything was also normal, including me, life just goes on. So strange. Yes, that was strange that it was not so strange.
I don't know what it was exactly that you saw in the sky. I think what you think, that it was something alien -- an affect of technology probably. I am sure it was put there for you to see it, to help you think the things you think.
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And later ocurred the thought in my mind that maybe I have something with my brains (yes, to much movies seen maybe). But I also think there's nothing wrong with that. Stronger, I haven't had headaches for over a year now (and I was a migraine-patient), sometimes (read: 1 to 3 times) a little, but that dissapeared very fast when I noticed the headache.
I think you are saying that your migraines have stopped since this experience.
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But well, I have a list of these things, all a little strange, but for me somethings not so strange, like I somewhere deep in my mind knew that it (this or that) gonna happened, and it did or it didn't surprise me so much (like maybe a other human shit the chicken out of him), I don't now if you can follow me on this. And somethings I'm so sure of that it was no (t my) imagination.

I think you are saying that sometimes in your mind you know certain things are going to happen ... and sometimes you are so sure of it that when it does happen, you are not surprised, but it would scare another person. Right?

One time I also have seen 3 beings or whatever they are, by my bed. The thing I most wondered of by this, was that I was so tired. In one of the first reactions in this topic somebody also mentioned this, and in my mind occurred the words 'greys' and when I read further you mentioned then the greys. But that's coincidence. I was so tired and exhausted that I thought something of: 'well, let it be then', like I was able to do something about it, not. And I didn't have also the energy for it then.

I only hope that if they were beings (interdimensional beings or whatever ), that the intention was not to harm me. And like you also already said, really do not want to harm any people. But my question then, why I was then so exhausted (my whole body did, muzzles everything and I didn't have sport or something that day or night ?). For the rest I was feeling (very) good and (or but) sometimes (very) confused. A few times a little exhausted on school (but who's not ), like I was in the night or when I was dreaming doing all sort of things.

You saw what you think you saw. The affects of the contact in your bedroom made you very tired. The beings made you so tired then for a purpose, so that they could allow you to be aware of them there like that, but so you would not overreact, and so you would go to sleep then. Also other times or kinds of experiences with alien life can make us feel unusually tired. Having contact doesn't always make us tired, and after we are used to the aliens it hardly ever affects us. Initial stress, getting to know them is tiring mentally and physically. Tests, preoccupation, interrupted sleep can make us unusually tired, especially when we do not even know that alien contact is going on.
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I also have the question for myself if ears have something to do with it, noises etc. I know in out of body expierences they (can) have a connection with it, is there also a connection in this maybe? Arghhh, when I think of it, it's almost to grazy for words . The feeling I have of all of this was a little that I was struggle to not lose myself, but I lost the fight or not that's the question (ok, now I'm being a little dramatic).

It was that a overwhelming sound everytime comes when I was lying in my bed (and spikkles and etc..pfff), that occured when I was relaxed lying waiting for sleep to come, then the noises come etc etc. Almost like they (sometimes) tease me with it or something like that ('you musn't fall in sleep'), sometimes that also have occured in my mind. But in another way it also can be that I wás losing myself in a way, meditation or BDE, name it, but then aware of it (that it gonna happened), hard to explain. My thoughts dissapeared or want to dissapear, and then maybe come the noises etc. How harder I tried, it all didn't work, 'it' was to strong. But I'm now gonna stop.
Yes, the sounds you hear have something to do with some different things that happen. Sometimes the sounds are due to things the aliens are doing. And sometimes the sounds are just the natural affects of what you yourself are doing. I know the exact thing you are talking about. It sounds to me like you were either involved in an exercise like practicing, or you were involved in a test like a measurement of your skills.

We use our natural abilities to be aware of the aliens. The aliens help us access and use our natural abilities more than we can accomplish on our own. So our natural abilities are turned on high when we are with the aliens. This causes us to be aware of things about ourselves too, that are natural to us, but that we normally never notice. It also makes very quiet, subtle things seem to be suddenly amplified.

For instance, I will show you an example. I will be one of your alien contacts and test you for your awareness of me (sensation of presence). I will ask you to close your eyes (because the aliens are usually invisible). Then I will very gently place my hand on your arm to see if you can feel my hand there. If you cannot feel it (are unaware of me) I will press a little bit harder and then see again if you can feel the affect. I will continue to press harder until you can finally feel my presence. But I must be very careful, because by the time you can feel my hand, the amount of pressure may be too great. Also, at the moment you become aware of the sensation of my presence, it may scare you so much that you will not proceed with getting to know me, and you may even believe that I am trying to hurt you.

It is the same if I wanted to test if you could hear me (telepathy). You would close your eyes (because I am still invisible). I would speak very gently at first, and then a little louder and a little louder until you indicate that you can hear me. But I know that by the time you hear me, it may sound to you like I am yelling at you. The last thing I want to do is scare you away from me, but if we do not discover and practice how to talk to each other, I can't help you understand the things that are happening or why they are happening.

As for going out of body, sometimes on the edge of my sleep I feel myself going out of body, and I hear a very loud noise. I don't know why. It also happens sometimes during meditation which is the same thing as the edge of sleep. I think it is a natural side-affect of holding onto both states of consciousness at once. It is not a warning sign, just an affect. There is no danger. I think it means we are stretching our abilities in some way. Like when our muscles hurt when we are lifting the weights that make us stronger.

I suggest you write all of your special experiences down in a dated journal and keep them, because the things that are happening to you now are going to be very important to your understanding of the things that are going to happen later in your life.

Take your life and everything that happens in it as it comes in time. You are on a unique path. Stay on it. Do not follow other humans. Listen to others to learn all about what they think and why they think those things, but do not follow anyone away from your own path of experiences.

Also learn how to trust your alien contacts. When things get difficult or emotional, take a deep breath, relax your body, clear your mind and make the best decisions you can. If you are totally stuck and can't work something out, don't worry, just write it down and ride it out.

[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door EarthSister op 26-08-2004 21:49:23 ]
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
  donderdag 26 augustus 2004 @ 22:29:33 #238
59136 Aurora025
1649 - Siege of Drogheda
pi_21567231
Hi Nancy, maybe this question was asked before, but what about the dark side of our moon. Are there alien bases?? I've heard this quite a lot.
The Irish Massacre was incited by the Jesuits on October 23, 1641, the feast day of Ignatius Loyola, and lasted until Oliver Cromwell landed in Drogheda in 1649 to put an end to it.
  donderdag 26 augustus 2004 @ 22:40:30 #239
59136 Aurora025
1649 - Siege of Drogheda
pi_21567475
Is it possible that aliens or aliencrafts make ticking noises . A few years ago I saw strange objects in Germany. As I saw these objects moving through the sky as if there was no gravity, I've heard loud ticking noises. One object had the shape of a cone and it was blue of color. We could see the objects for several minutes. I always thought these objects were some kind of military topsecret crafts or something like that.

Another thing I would like to know is if there is an connection between the pyramids in egypt and aliens?

[ Bericht 12% gewijzigd door Aurora025 op 26-08-2004 23:05:33 ]
The Irish Massacre was incited by the Jesuits on October 23, 1641, the feast day of Ignatius Loyola, and lasted until Oliver Cromwell landed in Drogheda in 1649 to put an end to it.
  donderdag 26 augustus 2004 @ 23:01:58 #240
59136 Aurora025
1649 - Siege of Drogheda
pi_21567987
This was an alien, floating through the trees, which a mexican police officer saw when driving in his car, do you know Nancy about aliens which can fly without a craft?


This object is captured on mars, do you maybe know what it could be?


http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/ufoupdates/listers/monterrey/
The Irish Massacre was incited by the Jesuits on October 23, 1641, the feast day of Ignatius Loyola, and lasted until Oliver Cromwell landed in Drogheda in 1649 to put an end to it.
pi_21569377
Hai, Freeflyer
quote:
Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 01:00 schreef Freeflyer het volgende:
Hi EarthSister,

I am still a bit sceptical about what you say,
You should be. I am not offended, and I am very happy to speak with fine skeptics. We should never go around believing things just because they sound good or hopeful, or are well-spoken.
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nonetheless I do have a question for you;

The alien races are trying to make contact with us (inhabitants of planet earth) to make sure we all can live in peace and harmony. Personally i believe that it is impossible to have peace and harmony due to our energy consumption of fossile fuels and in the near future the lack of those.
To a race like us, those words may sound euphoric and unrealistic. It is not that we will live in euphoria with them -- unless perhaps "just getting along well" sounds euphoric to you. Only one of the major reasons the alien races are visiting us, and why all races visit each other, is to ensure peace between our worlds. If we are not friendly, we will not have any desire or motivation, or even an agreement, to work together to overcome the differences that come up between us as we sharing the same area of space. If our neighboring races did not make friends with us before we started traveling to the proximity of where they live, we would probably offend them to the point that they had to hurt us just to protect themselves. We need time to be clued into the laws of behavior. Can you imagine if we did out there what we do here on Earth?

Allying with our neighboring races is inevitable. But it's happening "now" because of the point we are at in our evolution. We are not doing very well on our own in preserving our world or our race, and we are in need of some assistance. Many humans on Earth are asking the advanced races for it -- the alien races are not here uninvited. All advanced races help each other. It's our turn to move up. We are (should be) mature enough to make our entrance into the network.
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Our visitors have other sources of energy generation. Why haven't they shared their techniques with us? It would be a major improvement for planet earth and a great step towards a peacefull live.
What is it that makes you assume that they have not offered our leaders help with our energy crisis's? Our current leaders don't want that help yet, because they will lose too much of the money and power they currently run our world systems on. Anyway, it won't be an easy switch. However, it has got to be done.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
pi_21569873
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 02:47 schreef APK het volgende:

I've got another question, it might sound really stupid, but....
Are they involved in sports?
You know, like we have the Olympics for earhtlings.
Do they compete against other races from different planets?
Good question. Yes, they compete with each other on their own worlds and in some ways with other worlds. I do not know specifically what events they compete in with each other. Maybe they race their space ships, lol. Our discussions about the get-togethers focused on galactic fairs, where the beings of all area races can come to see and show off their unique abilities and technologies. There is great entertainment and fun, as well as sharing of knowledge and appreciation.

Getting the people together is the way to foster good relationships between worlds, make personal friendships and celebrate the specialties of neighboring life forms.

The Olympics is what my alien friends likened it to when they described it, and also trade shows and expositions.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
  vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 @ 00:10:06 #243
59136 Aurora025
1649 - Siege of Drogheda
pi_21569886
What I also found strange is that mankind had an explosive technology grow, which started about 2 centuries ago. For hundreds of years there was nothing and there we had so much technology in a very short period. Did the aliens helped us with that??
The Irish Massacre was incited by the Jesuits on October 23, 1641, the feast day of Ignatius Loyola, and lasted until Oliver Cromwell landed in Drogheda in 1649 to put an end to it.
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 06:42 schreef DrWolffenstein het volgende:

Do you mean the NSA, FBI or what? And what kind of questions do you have to awnser?
I mean FBI. I have not been told if any of the people who bothered us were NSA. But maybe FBI handled NSA fieldwork.

Fourteen years ago, our dealings with the FBI were offensive and defensive. They were offensive and we were defensive. A lot of things have changed in fortune years, and now they just try to measure our knowledge, and use us to get information they need about the alien races. Jack and I are willing to go-between, but we work with the aliens, not with the FBI.

The FBI wants to know things like the number of races visiting Earth, what kind of technologies they posses, what their intentions are, how their organization runs, who runs it, and what Jack's and my relationship and positions are with the aliens. We talk about the whys, like the questions I answer here in the forum, and we talk about what the future may hold.

The US government and the organization of visiting races has opened talks but only reached a scanty preliminary point yet. Complete honesty (I don't mean immediate disclosure) in any diplomatic talks is vital, and as you know, humans are generally not used to dealing like that, especially in government politics, or especially in some government's politics.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
pi_21570668
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 09:46 schreef The_Shining het volgende:
Hi Earthsister, thanks for your efforts & patience.

If you are interested in learning more about the subject, I would like to suggest you look them up in the Tao (Lao Tzu's "Tao te Ching") & buddhist (especially the writings from Nagarjuna) philosophies.
Thank you, The_Shining!
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
pi_21570775
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:24 schreef Morwen het volgende:
Hi Nancy,

What do the aliens think of the Asteroide "Toutatis"? Will it hit earth? And if it does, can they help us change it's course before it hits?
Hai, Morwen

My alien contacts have not said anything to me about Toutatis.

In the past, we have talked about possible asteroids hitting Earth and how the advanced races have technologies to monitor, track and destroy them before they cause particular damage, when it is necessary to do so. They would not tell me if they had ever done that for Earth. But I suspect so. I believe it is within their jurisdiction to take care of that. They are set up here and have personal and professional investments in Earth and humans.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
  vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 @ 00:49:17 #247
6941 APK
Factual, I think.
pi_21570954
Compliments for your dedication to answering all the questions!
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
  vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 @ 00:59:50 #248
59136 Aurora025
1649 - Siege of Drogheda
pi_21571111
Yes, compliments from me too
The Irish Massacre was incited by the Jesuits on October 23, 1641, the feast day of Ignatius Loyola, and lasted until Oliver Cromwell landed in Drogheda in 1649 to put an end to it.
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Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 00:49 schreef APK het volgende:
Compliments for your dedication to answering all the questions!
I totaly agree with that

Thanx, Nancy, for your answers! It's food for thought
I used to work in a morgue........I am a people person
Only Human
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Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:54 schreef P8 het volgende:
Why do you/everyone think the aliens look all the same. for example, somewhere in this topic you were asked whether you knew that kind of reptilian looking alien or not. You said you didnt. But why should they all look the same. we humans, are all unique in apperance. there are major differences between individuals. come to think about it, not only humans, but animals as well.
i can understand if they are all bold, since that's quite logical in evolution.
But there have to be individual differences between aliens i think.
As far as I know, all advanced races look very much alike within their races, even males and females. All of the ones I have met do, some more than others. Some have quite slight differences in appearance person to person, but it is the sensation of their presence that we recognize them as individuals by. This has not been explained to me outright by the aliens, but I have thought about it a great deal. (I think they like to make me sweat with mental exercise.)

Consider that they used to be much more different in appearance within their races, like we are. What do you think might happen to bring a race all together closer and closer to where it looks very much alike each member? I think we are mixing our race country to country, for one thing, and that could do it over evolutional time. And I think we are going to start weeding out diseases and disorders from our race biogenetically also, which will cut right to our genes. I think all of these affects "over great evolutional time" will funnel our genetics into a refinement of longevity and quality of health.

I feel I know in my heart that interracial families between countries is a good thing for Earth. I do not have a firm grasp on what is right or wrong about genetic manipulation for humans. I think that any problems are more in "methods" than in the genetic isolation of diseases. We humans will have a lot to work out about all that.
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And how's it possible that all aliens are humanoid?
We are all the same "kind" as people. We all somehow originally came from the same source. In that we are people, we (our DNA) are building the same, basic people shape. In some various ways, all new races of people come from existing races of people. We are all related from the very root of life.

If you want, maybe we humans on Earth really were created "in the image of God" and if so, then all of God's children in all of God's Universes were created in the image of God. That's what I think.

We humans on Earth are one of the newest, youngest races anywhere.
When humans behave strangely about the unknowns
that is the nature of the humans, not of the unknowns.
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