in het teken van een ander onderwerp over negeer niet alles buiten je blikveld...en ps nee tis wel veel quoten maar dat doe ik niet allemaal in tags voor de leesbaarheidik dacht laat ik eens gaan vertellen wat er bijvoorbeeld allemaal door de aangenomen wetenschap genegeerd wordt
ja kan tot de volgende
vet overslaan .. dit staat er zodat je ff kan 'terugkijken' zometeen
goed .. je neemt de evolutietheorie plus big bang theorie
of je neemt dus de '7-dagen' versie
even een paar data .. ga naar volgende VET .. aarde .. 5 miljard jaar oud
Ardipithecus ramidus 4.5 miljoen jaar geleden
A morphological description of the initial, mainly dental, fossil remains of Ardipithecus ramidus was published by White et al, 1994. The physical attributes of this hominid show a range of primitive traits, which are most likely character retentions from the last hominid/chimpanzee ancestor.
Homo erectus (voorloper van de mens)
The dates for erectus have become earlier and earlier, while habilis remains have been found in later and later deposits, making a lineage involving habilis ancestral to erectus increasingly unlikely. Specimens that are considered erectus are dated very securely to at least 1.8 myr, and fairly securely to 1.9 myr.
The Pleistocene
1.8 million to 11,000 years ago
This mammoth, found in deposits in Russia, was one of the largest land mammals of the Pleistocene, the time period that spanned from 1.8 million to 11,000 years ago
The Pleistocene also saw the evolution and expansion of our own species, Homo sapiens, and by the close of the Pleistocene, humans had spread through most of the world
ff met iets meer tempo .. dan komt brons
je weet wel ..met die speerpunten enzo
but discoveries near Ban Chiang, Thailand, indicate that bronze technology was known there as early as 4500 bc.
dan komt ijzer
The major technical advance of the early Greek period was the widespread use of iron
(ed 1200?). Furnaces were developed that could reach the high melting temperature of that metal. Iron technology had spread throughout the classical world by about 500 BC.
dan begint na een tijdje de ontwikkeling ff af te nemen en na de gouden eeuw is alles weer koek en ei .. paar revoluties later en we zitten op het intenet .. okie .
nou bedankt voor de geschiedenisles ..dat was spannend
hey kewl je bent er nog ..ff volhouden ..uberleuk allemaal wat hierna komt
ja het gaat toch over OOparts ofzo .. wat de neuck??
idd wat de neuck ?? .. dat is de definitie ongeveer van OOparts ..
Ooparts ? What are Ooparts? That stands for Out of Place Artifacts. Things that show up where they shouldn't, okie lekker vaag allemaal weer
klopt ..zullen we er een PAAR van de vele bespreken
dit zijn de grotere aan de wat de neucks
dingen die gevonden worden .. jaja bewijs enzo .. die niet passen
wat voor dingen dan .. nou zegmaar
zou je verbaasd zijn als die apen zie boven ..met gouden kettingen speelden
en nanotechnologie hadden ? vast wel
het is immers voor het brons tijdperk .. voor het stenen tijdperk die gouden kettingen iig
maar ik ga ze netjes 1 voor 1 bespreken ..en jullie mogen nieuwe toevoegen
de verkoolde gouden kettingenA Gold Thread
Workmen quarrying stone near the River Tweed below Rutherford, Scotland in 1844, found a piece of gold thread embedded in the rock of the quarry eight feet below ground level. A small piece of the thread was sent to the offices of the local newspaper, the Kelso Chronicle, "for the inspection of the curious."
(The Times, London, June 22,
1844)
dus een gouddraad .. ja dat hoeft geen ketting te zijn .. ney okie daarmee ben ik het wel eens
maar daar ken ik er nog een van ..
het hoeft natuurlijk ook geen goud te zijnAn Object in Coal
An "iron instrument" apparently resembling the bit of a coal drill, was found inside a lump of coal taken from an excavation in Scotland in 1852 It was at first supposed that a miner had broken his drill while working the seam and had left the piece of metal embedded there. But the surface of the coal was unbroken: it showed no signs of drilling or any present or former opening by which the drill might have passed into it's interior. If such a thing were not quite impossible,
according to every date in the geology text books, observers would have to believe that the coal would somehow have formed around the mysterious piece of metal.
(Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland, 1:1:121, December 13,
1852goud en ijzen in kolen .. so ?ok een tand dan ? Another Oddity in Coal
Early in November of 1926, archaeologist J.C.F. Siegfriedt made a discovery in another mine, this one the Number Three shaft of the Mutual Coal Mine of Bear Creek, 55 miles southwest of Billings, Montana. What Siegfriedt found was a human tooth, in which the enamel had been replaced by carbon and the roots by iron, by seepage petrification. In an account published in the Carbon County News and dated November 11, 1926, Siegfriedt reported that he had meticulously
preserved the mineral matrix that had been deposited around the tooth, and several dentists identified the mold created as being a human second lower molar. The tooth, however, came from the lower level of the mine - from an Eocene deposit dated at 30 million years old. Siegfriedt could generate no interest in his find among other specialists, and as far
as is known, no one has done any further study of the mystery.
of een heel hoofd ?ff letten op wat er in onderstaand vet is en dan ff jaartal terugzoeken in apen overzich bovenRight: Evolution Takes a Hit
Scientists fear evidence that man is as old as coal :Hard evidence for hard hearts? Solid rock proof for hard heads? Smithsonian squelching evidence again?
"Physical evidence currently exists that proves man inhabited the earth while coal was being formed, shaking the very foundations of who we really are and how we really got here. An assortment of human bones and soft organs, transformed to rock-like hardness, has been discovered between anthracite veins in Pennsylvania.
Since one of the golden rules of geology is that
coal was formed during the Carboniferous -- a minimum of 280 million years ago -- it means that man has existed multi-millions of years before the ... insectivore from whom the evolutionists claim we eventually evolved."
ja en ook
"Aside from the evidence of bones, evidence of human occupation of this area in Carboniferous times included one particularly strange item: a petrified handle of some sort of a tool.
This item was totally petrified and appeared almost to be made of coal; "coalified" might be a better term. Other than that, it appeared entirely similar to and entirely as well-made as any normal handle to an axe or sledge hammer of our own day and evinced a fairly high level of technology. The grain structure of a wooden handle was there.
ok maar terug naar de gouden kettingen
of geloof je die andere 2 wel .. die uit 1860 en 1920 .. houd in gedachte draad is mss in het nederlands wel ook een goudbron ..maar kan ook een dunne ketting zijn .. en dat was bij andere 2 dus niet een dunne draad .. maar wel gevonden in kool .. ik zet expliciet de datum erbij .. dat is na het ik verbrand je als heks periode (maar nog wel met geloven doen we het iig niet) en voor het ik heb photoshop tijdperk ..ik mag hopen dat je daar niet aan twijfelt
Sophisticated Metallurgical Skills in Ancients“Certain achievements of the South American Indian in metallurgy are enigmatic. Ornaments of platinum, were found in Ecuador. This poses a provoking question--how could the American Indian produce the temperature- of over 1,770 degrees Celsius necessary to melt it? It should be borne in mind here that the melting of platinum in Europe was achieved only two centuries ago.
In testing an alloy from a prehistoric artifact the United States Bureau of Standards ascertained that the original dwellers of America had furnaces capable of producing temperatures of 9,000 degrees Celsius 7,000 years ago. (edit weet je die van net nog 500bc in griekenland dus ijzer daar heb je max 2000graden voor nodig zeg ik)
No satisfactory explanation has yet been given of how such a technical feat was possible at all at so remote a date as 500
0 B.C.(Science et Vie, No 516).
The tomb of the Chinese general Chow Chu (A.D. 265-316) presents a mystery. When analyzed by the spectroscope, a metal girdle showed 10 percent copper, 5 percent manganese, and 85 percent aluminum. But according to the history of science aluminum was obtained for the first time by Oersted in 1825 by a chemical method.
To satisfy industrial demands, electrolysis was later introduced into the manufacturing process. Needless to say, an ornament made of aluminum, whether chemically or electrolytically, seems out of place in a third-century grave in China.
It is hardly reasonable to think that this aluminum article was the only one manufactured in China.
The Kutb Minar iron pillar in Delhi weighs 6 tons and is about 7.5 meters high. For fifteen centuries it has withstood the tropical sunshine of India plus the heavy downpours during the monsoons. It does not show any signs of rust formation and provides proof of the superior metallurgical skill of ancient India.
Aside from the mystery of the noncorrosive metal of which the column is made, the task of forging so large a pillar could not have been achieved anywhere in the world until recent times.
The production of rustproof iron of this type is possible today because of our high technology but it is surprising to find such, an achievement in AD. 415. The pillar stands as a mute Witness to the scientific tradition preserved by the people of antiquity in all parts of the world.
Men whom time has forgotten held the answers to these riddles of the history of science.”
Source:We Are Not The First, by Andrew Tomas Copyright 1971
hey maar je lulde over met plaatjes ..heb je daar nog wat van ..lezen doet pijn aan me ogen
ok ok chill ff .. het word wel leuker hoor
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Earliest Art Shows "Cavemen" Skill
Dec. 22, 2003
— Three tiny figurines carved out of mammoth ivory unearthed in a cave in southwestern Germany demonstrate that early humans were far from primitive in their artistic skills.
The find at Hohle Fels cave in the Swabian Jura, southwestern Germany, have been carbon-dated to at least 30,000 years old, placing them in the era when anatomically modern humans and Neanderthals lived alongside each other.
None longer than five centimeters (two inches) across, the carvings comprise a duck-like bird; an animal that resembles a horse; and a half-human, half-animal creature that appears to have the body of a man and possibly the face of a lion.
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They join 17 other sculptures, including a fragment of a sophisticated musical pipe made from swan bone, that have been found at three nearby sites, Vogelherd, Geissenkloesterle and Hohlenstein-Stadel, all in the Ach and Lone Valleys southwest of Ulm.
These works "belong to one of the oldest traditions of figurative art known worldwide and point to the Upper Danube as an important center of cultural innovation during the early Upper Palaeolithic period," said Tuebingen University archaeologist Nicholas Conard, who made the find.
The carvings have been dated to the so-called Aurignacian period, through analysis of carbon isotopes in the stratum of soil in which they were deposited.
The collection of 20 Swabian Jura carvings is "the oldest body of figurative art in the world," said British archaeologist Anthony Sinclair, whose commentary in the London-based science journal Nature is published on Thursday alongside Conard's research.
ok wat de neuk bewijst dit nou weer .. niets behalve dan dat de holbewoners nog wel iets kunnen
een fluitje met veel detail uit ivoor hakken dus
maar ik vraag je dus of ie ook de volgende dingen zou kunnenthe metal and silver vase blasted from the groundIn Scientific American (June
1951, Vol. 7, p. 298) a report was given concerning a metallic vase that had been dynamited out of solid rock on Meeting Horse Hill in Dorchester, Massachusetts. The report read, "On putting the two parts together it formed a bell-shaped vessel, 4 1/2 inches high, 6 l/2 inches at the base, 2 1/2 inches at the top and about an eighth of an inch in thickness.
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The body of the vessel resembles zinc in color, or a composition metal in which there is a considerable portion of silver. On the sides there are six figures of a flower, a bouquet, beautifully inlaid with pure silver, and around the lower part of the vessel, a vine, or wreath, inlaid also with silver.
The chasing, carving and inlaying are exquisitely done by the art of some cunning craftsman. This curious and unknown vessel was blown out of the solid pudding stone, fifteen feet below the surface."
the metal barThe scientific journals Nature (London,1886) and L'Astronomie (Paris,1887) published confirmation that in
1886, in the foundry of the Austrian Isador Braun of Vocklabruck, a block of coal dating from the Tertiary period was broken open.
A small metal cube was discovered inside. Tests indicated that the cube was composed of a steel-nickel alloy. It measured 2.64 by 2.64 by 1.85 inches, weighed 1.73 pounds, and had a specific gravity of 7.75.
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The edges of this ancient cube were perfectly straight and sharp; four of its sides were flat, while the two remaining opposite sides were convex. A deep groove had been cut all the way around the cube. It appeared that the cube had been machine made and was part of a larger mechanism.
It was perhaps with uncanny insight that historian Will Durant wrote, "Immense volumes have been written to expound our knowledge, and conceal our ignorance, of primitive man...primitive cultures were not necessarily the ancestors of our own; for all we know they may be the degenerate remnants of higher cultures..."
the concreteWhat are perhaps the most disturbing prehistoric construction and civilization finds were uncovered in 1965 by archaeologist Dragoslav Srejovic at a site now called Starveco, on the Danube River, on the Yugoslavian and Rumanian border.
Digging into the Yugoslavian bank, Srejovic first encountered traces of a Roman road; beneath this were fragments of proto-Greek pottery, and below these were Neolithic remnants and traces of Mesolithic cultural artifacts.
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Deeper still, Srejovic came upon something totally out of place: the remains of a cement floor. More specifically, the material was an amalgam of local limestone, sand and water, considered a feat of chemistry and construction several millennia ahead of its time. The cement surfaces were not placed haphazardly, but were carefully laid out in large slabs to form the foundations of houses.
Several foundations were built one on top of another, indicating that buildings had been constructed and reconstructed over an indeterminate period. Yet there was also remarkable uniformity. (Photo:some of the Starveco foundations) The layout of the houses in the later periods was the same as that in the earlier periods - there was no evidence of a gradual development from a simple to a complex pattern.
Rather, the Starveco village suddenly appeared, fully mature, flourished, then decayed and was abandoned in the same advanced state. In addition to the foundations, the individual Starveco buildings also showed a high order of architectural sophistication. They all had one side larger in size than the other three, with proportions of either 3:1 or 4:1. The larger side was shaped like a 60-degree segment of a circle.
This larger side always faced toward the river, providing the occupants with the maximum view of the Danube and the surrounding hilly country. Inside each house, the shape of the dwelling was repeated in the hearth or oven, which was bounded by carefully shaped stone slabs and always located in the eastern or sunny end of the house.
Srejovic noted that the position of the hearth was significant, as it was situated in the exact center of an equilateral triangle if the lines of the house were extended....The implications of the mathematical and geometrical knowledge cannot be ignored.
The same precision and order evident in the architecture is also found in the arrangement of the dwellings at the Starveco site. The structures were laid out in what appears to have been a planned fan shape, opening toward the riverbank.
The larger buildings, presumably those belonging to members of a higher class or governing body, were located toward the center, surrounding a paved plaza...
The Starveco site has yielded a number of other cultural characteristics previously thought to have been developed thousands of years later, in the Middle East. Behind the hearth in each house, laborers unearthed the remains of altars, indicating religious beliefs and practices.
Each altar was composed of a flat stone, with a cup impression for burning a sacriffce, which faced two or more upright stones of reddish sandstone. This sandstone has been excavated from an outcrop, located in a ravine several miles away, and many of the stones had carved wavy lines or chevrons in low relief, considered the oldest examples of architectural decoration. Even more significant was the discovery of twenty sculpted life-size human faces of stone....
An interesting aspect of the site was the evidence of very good health among the Starveco population. There was a striking absence of deformed or diseased bones, and the women were so robustly built that it was difficult to tell their skeletal remains from those of the men.'
In spite of his absence from Western culture and history "Stone Age" man is seen to equal or, in some cases, to surpass our own modern accomplishments."...
What an optical lens was doing in ancient Nimrud was then - and remains today - beyond the understanding of orthodox archaeology.But then so does the ancient 8.8-ton slab of man made glass discovered in
1956 at Beth She'arim, south-west of Galilee.
Similar weights of glass have been manufactured in modern times, but only rarely and for very specialized purposes - like the lenses of giant telescopes. Also, in the pyramid at Dahshur, built by Snefru (c.2613-c.2498 BCE), there lies at the foundation a 35 ton slab of man made purple glass. Think on that for a while.
the pregnancy testA workable pregnancy test is described on a Babylonian clay tablet. It involved the insertion of a herbaly impregnated woolen tampon into the woman's vagina. When removed and treated with an alum solution, the tampon turned red if the woman was pregnant.
ok ik kan nog uren doorgaan met pasten .. ga zelf maar zoeken .. ik heb wel de leukste voor het laatst bewaardAncient Computer More Than 2000 Years Old
There is at least one artifact that proves beyond all doubt that one civilisation in the ancient world possessed technical knowledge which no modern scientists had previously suspected. As it was found in the sea off Antikythera, a small island north west of Crete, it is known as the Antikythera Mechanism.".
It was not until 17th May 1902 that a leading archaeologist examined the artefacts and recognised the outline of cogwheels in one of the lumps of bronze and wood. The writing on the case confirmed that the item had been made in 80 BCE.
In 1958 Derek J. Solla Price, an Englishman who then worked at Cambridge University and who later worked as the Avalon Professor of the History of Science at Yale University in America, examined the mechanism. Using a process for restoring oxidised objects, Dr. Price was able to salvage some of the mass and from these pieces he attempted to rebuild the device.
However it was not until 1971 when X-ray photographs were taken of the artefact by the Greek Atomic Energy Commission, that the mechanism's array of meshing gears was finally revealed.
Price remarked that, "nothing like this instrument is preserved elsewhere. Nothing comparable to it is known from any ancient scientific text or literary allusion. On the contrary, from all that we know of science and technology in the Hellenistic age, we should have felt that a device could not exist".
Work on the artefact revealed that on the outside it had consisted of dials set into a wooden box with at least 20-gear wheels inside. The box was covered with inscriptions that included an astronomical calendar. The mechanism also included a system of differential years. A crank spindle set the gears in motion at various speeds, turning pointers on three dials that calculated the rising and setting times and phases of the Moon, and the positions of the planets Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn all with a high degree of accuracy . "
It appears that this was, indeed a computing machine that could work out and exhibit the motions of the sun and the moon and probably also the planets" ...Solla Price
It could well be that the technology is-pre-Greek since there are no other indications that they had this type of technical ability.
..maar deze zijn imo echt wel grappig
500,000 Year Old Spark Plugs?Found in California, the concretion in which these metal objects were found are thought by scientists to be 500,000 years or so old. On the left is the frontal view of the object which became visible when the object was broken (in search of fossils)
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On the right is a side view x-ray of the obviously artificial object. The x-ray showed what looked like a spring on the end of the object simialr to the metal springs on modern spark plugs. If the object is truly ancient, the question is; "who made it?", if the object is really just a modern spark plug as some suggest, then the question of modern dating techniques is invalidated.
It sure wasn't made by the ancient Greeks, Romans or Egyptians.
(de steen was een crystalsteen .. heeft 500000 jaar nodig om te vormen
met iig 2 stukjes porselein .. (met metaal en veertjje)
porselein past niet zo goed in het stenen tijdperk
The Mitchell-Hedges Crystal SkullAnother great oopart is THE crystal skull discovered in Mayan ruins called "Lubaantun", City of Fallen Stones, in British Honduras, Now called Belize. The skull was discovered in 1924 by Anna Le Guillon Mitchell-Hedgesdaughter of F.A. Mitchell-Hedges who was in charge of the digs at Lubaantun. The story goes that his daughter, Anna, was exploring inside some ruins thought to have been a temple, when she found the exquisitely carved crystal skull which was then missing the jawbone. The missing jawbone was found three months later, about
25 feet away from where the top part of the skull was found.
Evidently the story of the skull's discovery is a fabrication. There are supposedly documents in The BritishMuseum that prove it was bidding against Mitchell-Hedges for the artifact at a Sothebys auction in London in
1943.
Be that as it may, we are still left with the problem of the skull itself.
The Mitchell-Hedges skull is made of clear quartz crystal, and both cranium and mandible are believed to have come from the same solid block. It weighs 11.7 pounds and is about five inches high, five inches wide, and seven inches long. Except for slight anomalies in the temples and cheekbones, it is a virtually anatomically correct replica of a human skull. Because of its small size and other characteristics, it is thought more closely to resemble a female skull -- and this has led
some to refer to the Mitchell-Hedges skull as a "she."
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The Mitchell-Hedges family loaned the skull to Hewlett-Packard Laboratories for extensive study in 1970. Art restorer Frank Dorland oversaw the testing at the Santa Clara, California, computer equipment manufacturer, a leading facility for crystal research. The HP examinations yielded some startling results.
Researchers found that the skull had been carved against the natural axis of the crystal. Modern crystal sculptors always take into account the axis, or orientation of the crystal's molecular symmetry, because if they carve "against the grain," the piece is bound to shatter -- even with the use of lasers and other high-tech cutting methods.
To add to the enigma, HP could find no microscopic scratches on the crystal which would indicate it had been carved with metal instruments. Dorland's best hypothesis for the skull's construction is that it was roughly hewn out with diamonds, and then the detail work was meticulously done with a gentle solution of silicon sand and water. The exhausting job -- assuming it could possibly be done in this way -- would have required man-hours adding
up to 300 years to complete.
Under these circumstances, experts believe that successfully crafting a shape as complex as the Mitchell-Hedges skull is impossible; as one HP researcher is said to have remarked, "The damned thing simply shouldn't be."
The skull remains in the possession of Anna Mitchell-Hedges. She resides in Canada and displays the skull on frequent tours. Anna has maintained for all these years that she discovered the skull, even though there is reason to doubt that she was present at the Lubaatun expedition at all.
dit is de killer .. en als laatste .. mss blijgt het dan hangen
20,000 to 100,000" Year Old Metalic "Screws"
Thousands of spiral, screwlike objects sized as small as 1/10,000th of an inch (dat is 0,00000254 centimeter!!!) (NANOTECHNOLOGIE.. 2.54 NANOMETER ..) have been found beginning in the early-nineties and are still being found by gold miners in the Ural mountains in Russia.
These metal items found in depths from 3 to 40 feet are thought to be 20 thousand plus years old.
Dr Matveyeva who has studied the objects: “The layer which contains the spiral shaped objects is characterised as gravel and detritus deposits … From their orientation these layers can be dated to 100,000 years and correspond to lower regions of the Mikulinsk horizon of the upper Pleistocene.”
In plain language the Pleistocene is the previous geological epoch, which began about 2 million years ago and ended around 10,000 years ago.
Contrary to what some commentators believe however, we don't think that these objects are extraterrestrial in origin. Rather we think their origin is very terrestrial, the vestiges of a former hi tech civilisation, the evidence of which will become increasing apparent over the coming years.
ff over de laatste nog een wat meergekleurde bron
Pictured below is an example of the strange, often spiral shaped objects found in the eastern Urals. Since 1991 more and more of these objects have been found in the region. Often microscopically small they are made principally of tungsten, molybdenum, and copper. They were discovered during the course of official explorations that had been mounted with a view to exploiting the precious metals in the region. Consequently geological and mineralogical analysis was done by the Central Scientific Research Institute for Geology and Prospecting for Precious and Non Ferrous Metals ( ZNIGRI ) in Moscow. The ZNIGRI put out a report in which the author, Dr Matveyeva states: “The layer which contains the spiral shaped objects is characterised as gravel and detritus deposits … From their orientation these layers can be dated to 100,000 years and correspond to lower regions of the Mikulinsk horizon of the upper Pleistocene.”
In plain language the Pleistocene is the previous geological epoch, which began about 2 million years ago and ended around 10,000 years ago. Contrary to what some commentators believe however, we don't think that these objects are extraterrestrial in origin. Rather we think their origin is very terrestrial, the vestiges of a former hi tech civilisation, the evidence of which will become increasing apparent over the coming years.
die drie metalen he .. die smelten respectievelijk bij
copper/koper 1084.62 °C
Molybdenum 2617 º C
tungsten 3422 °Cok .. DUS iets geschat op tussen 20.000 en 100.000 jaar oud
gemaakt van 3 metalen .. waarbij een een smelttemp heeft van 3422 graden
EN DAN TER KLEINTE VAN 2.5 NANOMETER .. knappe holbewoner die dat maakt
daar gaat je vandaag de dag nog slecht af denk ik
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en wat denk je van een knappe holbewoner die dat maakt + nog perfect ook kijk maar goed naar bovenstaand ..vergeet niet dat deze zomaar schroef DUNNER IS DAN EEN HOOFDHAAR
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psst .. en hoe vaak heb je nou gelezen van iets dat het bestaat maar eigenlijk niet zou moeten kunnen ?
ps ..
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