Lol,quote:
Ze zijn bij voortduring nogal dom, in oekraine.quote:Ja, maar als ze het nu maar gewoon vragen/het formulier invullen/wat dies meer zei: dan komt het allemaal goed!
Waarom veronderstel jij dat wat jij her en der leest het totaal is van wat er, ook via officiele kanalen, gecommuniceerd is?quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 14:42 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Maar denk je niet dat het handiger is dat ze in Oekrane eerst even onderling overleggen wat er nou nodig is?
Omdat het Zelenskyy dat steeds riep. Waarom zou hij om minder gaan vragen? Hij wil waarschijnlijk dat Rusland weet dat het land vol met die dingen staat, zodat die wel even nadenken voordat ze een vliegtuig naar Oekrane sturen om daar de boel te bombarderen. Van sommige wapens wil je niet dat een vijand weet hoeveel je er van hebt, van andere wil je dat juist weer wel.quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 16:25 schreef ExTec het volgende:
[..]
Waarom veronderstel jij dat wat jij her en der leest het totaal is van wat er, ook via officiele kanalen, gecommuniceerd is?
Maar ik denk ook niet dat we ze teveel luchtafweer kunnen geven.quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 16:58 schreef Ulx het volgende:
[..]
Omdat het Zelenskyy dat steeds riep. Waarom zou hij om minder gaan vragen? Hij wil waarschijnlijk dat Rusland weet dat het land vol met die dingen staat, zodat die wel even nadenken voordat ze een vliegtuig naar Oekrane sturen om daar de boel te bombarderen. Van sommige wapens wil je niet dat een vijand weet hoeveel je er van hebt, van andere wil je dat juist weer wel.
Natuurlijk willen ze er meer. Dat je je vliegvelden wil dekken snap ik ook wel. Dus ik vraag me gewoon af waarom die officier er nu pas mee aankomt als er al een jaar geleden F16's zijn toegezegd.Uitzoeken hoeveel systemen je dan nodig hebt is nou niet echt heel ingewikkeld. En Rusland weet ook dat er F-16's aankomen, en hoeveel. Maar dan een jaar minder gaan vragen en ineens vlak voor die toestellen komen ineens publiekelijk weer om meer? Huh? Ik zie werkelijk geen enkel voordeel voor Oekrane of het zo aan te pakken. Zelfs al was het een geheim zodat Rusland in de val loopt, dan heeft hij het net verklapt.quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 17:09 schreef ExTec het volgende:
[..]
Maar ik denk ook niet dat we ze teveel luchtafweer kunnen geven.
En copium a'la: maar het is misleiding, ze zouden best wel eens veel meer kunnen krijgen dan we denken! - doe ik ook niet aan.
De constante is redelijk dat oekraine van alles het absolute minimum krijgt. Voorbeelden te over, immers.
En ik heb het graag mis. Want dan zouden ze meer hebben dan we denken. En als jij het mis hebt, sterven er nodeloos mensen.
Omdat:quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 17:28 schreef Ulx het volgende:
[..]
Ik zie werkelijk geen enkel voordeel voor Oekrane of het zo aan te pakken.
En dat zeggen ze tegen iedereen die het wil horen, via elk medium beschikbaar.quote:
Maar de regering noemt al een jaar dat ze tussen de zeven en elf batterijen nodig hebben. Dus bij drie vliegvelden waar dedicated twee patriots bij horen te staan is dat aantal aan de lage kant. Helemaal als je ook steden wilt verdedigen.quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 17:34 schreef ExTec het volgende:
[..]
Omdat:
[..]
En dat zeggen ze tegen iedereen die het wil horen, via elk medium beschikbaar.
Ik zeg toch nergens dat ze dan geleverd zouden zijn? Het is dat Duitsland een vierde denkt te gaan leveren en dat Itale een extra SAMP/T stuurt dat er net het minimale gehaald wordt.quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 17:46 schreef ExTec het volgende:
Het is prima, zullen we het erop houden dat ze in oekraine gewoon olie dom zijn, en als ze "nou gewoon duidelijk zouden zijn!" - ze heus genoeg patriot batterijen hadden gehad?
Want ik snap em, dat ene land dat er zat heeft staat te trappelen om ze te voorzien van, alleen ze zitten met hun handen in het haar, want "oekraine is niet duidelijk!"
![]()
Genoeg,quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 19:41 schreef SillyWalks het volgende:
Hoeveel van de verschillende AA heeft Rusland eigenlijk nog, is daar zicht op?
Dus radars, launchers, etc.
Hoeveel?quote:
Dat is vrij lastig weer te geven aangezien verschillende voertuigen weer in productie gegaan zijn, van wikipedia:quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 19:41 schreef SillyWalks het volgende:
Hoeveel van de verschillende AA heeft Rusland eigenlijk nog, is daar zicht op?
Dus radars, launchers, etc.
En met als wat er vernietigd is, hoeveel zouden ze er nog over hebben?quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 20:00 schreef BlaZ het volgende:
[..]
Dat is vrij lastig weer te geven aangezien verschillende voertuigen weer in productie gegaan zijn, van wikipedia:
130 Tunguska
430 Strela 1
950 Osa
860 Strela 10
300 Buk
20 Tor
70 S300 (ik meen 12 voertuigen per volledige eenheid)
De Pantsir staat daar niet in de lijst en wordt nog geproduceerd. Dit jaar heeft Saudi Arabi er nog een lading aangeschaft nadat de VAE en Oman dat eerder al gedaan hadden.
Waar bewijs van is te zien opquote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 20:04 schreef SillyWalks het volgende:
[..]
En met als wat er vernietigd is, hoeveel zouden ze er nog over hebben?
Ben ik wel blij mee, die is altijd sterk pro-Oekrane geweestquote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 20:27 schreef Cilantro het volgende:
Goed nieuws: volgens de NOS wordt Ruben Brekelmans minister van defensie.
Stijn Mitzer is ermee gestopt.quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 20:07 schreef TwenteFC het volgende:
[..]
Waar bewijs van is te zien op
https://www.oryxspioenkop(...)nting-equipment.html
Globaal;
Anti-Aircraft Guns (51, of which destroyed: 32, damaged: 1, captured: 18)
Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Guns (25, of which destroyed: 14, damaged: 2, abandoned: 2, captured: 7)
Surface-To-Air Missile Systems (247, of which destroyed: 181, damaged: 38, abandoned: 4, captured: 24)
Radars (73, of which destroyed: 44, damaged: 19, captured: 10)
Jammers And Deception Systems (82, of which destroyed: 61, damaged: 12, captured: 9)
Wat precies kan je op die site zien.
Nee hoor, er worden nog steeds dagelijks verliezen aan toegevoegd. Ik zie allemaal voertuigen die zijn vernietigd in juni 2024.quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 22:49 schreef polderturk het volgende:
[..]
Stijn Mitzer is ermee gestopt.
Site wordt al een tijdje niet meer onderhouden.
Ah, goed om te weten. Wist ik nog niet.quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 22:49 schreef polderturk het volgende:
[..]
Stijn Mitzer is ermee gestopt.
Site wordt al een tijdje niet meer onderhouden.
Ja, wordt nog steeds onderhoudenquote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 22:49 schreef polderturk het volgende:
[..]
Stijn Mitzer is ermee gestopt.
Site wordt al een tijdje niet meer onderhouden.
https://kyivindependent.c(...)-completely-covered/quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 11:51 schreef Ulx het volgende:
[..]
Sure, maar de gevraagde aantallen fluctueerden tussen de 7 en 11 Patriotsystemen voor geheel Oekrane. Meer dan dat noemde Zelenskyy niet. Dan is het wat raar als ze voor drie vliegvelden (beredeneerde gok gezien het verwachtte aantal F16's) er ineens zes extra nodig zouden hebben. Dan heeft iemand bij de luchtmacht wat cijfers vergeten door te geven aan Zelenskyy. Of niet soms? Voor mijn part kopen we ze, daar gaat het niet om, maar kom op hee...Dit soort berichten vlak voordat de F16's worden neergezet? Wat zijn ze nog meer vergeten?
Oekrane heeft 25 Patriot systemen nodig om het hele land te beveiligen. 7 was het minimale wat ze met spoed nodig hebben.quote:Zelensky: Ukraine needs 25 Patriot air defense systems to cover the country
President Volodymyr Zelensky, in an interview with national television on April 6, called on international partners to provide Ukraine with modern air defense systems to defend against Russian attacks.
Russian troops have intensified their attacks during the spring, mainly targeting energy and civilian infrastructure. According to Ukraine's Interior Ministry, Russia has conducted around 30,000 strikes on Ukrainian territory in 2024.
As Moscow increased its attacks, the shortage of air defense systems in Ukraine became more tangible, particularly in the territories proximate to the front line.
"I will not tell you how many Patriot systems we have. I can say that to cover Ukraine completely in the future, it is preferable to have 25 Patriot systems, with 6-8 batteries each," Zelensky said.
All the international partners are aware of Ukraine's need for air defense systems, Zelensky said, adding that some of the allies even know where systems must be set.
Zelensky said the Patriot's analogs could also be efficient against Russian strikes.
But the president also stressed that on the territories near the front line, Ukrainian forces need "combined defense" to oppose attacks conducted with guided aerial bombs.
According to Zelensky, such defense must include air defense systems, fighter jets, and "own anti-guided-aerial bombs weapons, which are currently being developed."
The president added that, in 2024, Ukraine's partners could provide 10% of the modern air fleet stock, which Ukraine expects to receive in the future.
"Ukraine knows for sure how much it needs to repel the Russian Federation's attacks," he said.
Wat ik begrepen heb zijn zij inderdaad druk bezig met ondergrondse bunkers te bouwen voor de F-16s.quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 11:08 schreef Ulx het volgende:
[..]
Ik mag toch hopen dat ze afgelopen jaar wel wat zware bunkers voor die toestellen hebben gemaakt. Ze weten tenslotte al een tijdje dat ze komen. En als niet, dan vraag ik me wel af waarom de neuk niet? De Russen doen het niet en OekraIne weet wat de resultaten daarvan zijn. En trouwens, ook voor de Saabs zullen ze die nodig hebben. Dat zou echt krankzinnig incompetent zijn van de luchtmachtleiding.
quote:Ukraine is building underground stores and bunkers to protect F-16s as the jets' arrival moves closer
• Ukraine is preparing ways to protect its F-16s while at base, its air force said.
• This includes building bunkers and dispersing the US-made aircraft when they arrive.
• Ukraine is expected to receive the first F-16s from its allies this summer.
Ik mag hopen dat zij hier al een flinke tijd mee bezig zijn. Zij hebben hier alle tijd al voor gehad tenslotte.SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
quote:New tanks will be produced in Trndelag
Levanger now gets its own tank factory.
SOON TO TRNDERSK: Crown Prince Haakon visited the tank manufacturer outside Munich in autumn 2023, together with Defense Minister Bjrn Arild Gram. Photo: Mattis Sandblad / VG
An agreement between the German supplier and Ritek in Levanger opens up a separate production line for Leopard 2 tanks.
The agreement will be signed in Oslo on Tuesday morning.
- 37 of the 54 new Leopard 2 tanks that Norway has ordered from Germany will be assembled at Ritek in Levanger . This could be the start of a new Norwegian industrial adventure, says Defense Minister Bjrn Arild Gram (Sp).
Large orders for new tanks from a number of countries to the Leopard manufacturer in Germany now open the possibility for a new industrial chapter in Trndelag. The supplier Krauss-Maffei Wegmann needs new production lines.
One of the new production lines is now being set up at the Levanger company.
- This will be exciting. We will start production in 2026 and will deliver from 2028, says Morten Minsaas to VG. He is head of sales and marketing at Ritek.
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
quote:Not a joke – Belarusian officer thinks T-34 is fit to fight
Back in 2022, when Russia threw antique T-62s into the war in Ukraine, netizens started joking that Russia has a lot of T-34 tanks too – why not send them? These tanks, used heavily in World War II, are obviously incredibly old. But now Russia is dragging them to Belarus and officers are calling them “fit to fight”.
T-34 in a military parade in Moscow in 2023. It was the only tank there that year. Image credit: Mil.ru via Wikimedia (CC BY 4.0)
Many would consider this a huge embarrassment but Russians have not laughed at the idea that the T-34 could be used in the war in Ukraine. It’s not a joke to them. One of the guests of the propagandist Solovyov said more than a year ago that the tanks standing as monuments In Russia are also a reserve. Some Russian commentators argue that this is not even such a crazy idea, especially if the T-34s get good electronic warfare systems that can defend them against drones. They rhetorically ask how the T-34 is worse than infantry fighting vehicles.
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
Ik hoop dat we hier mee door blijven gaan.quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 00:15 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
[..]
[ x ]
En Nederland is ook goed bezig.
Het verbaasd me dat Rusland geen veto heeft uitgesproken. De oorlog heeft hun bijna alleen maar voordeel opgebracht door de wereld af geleiden van hun oorlog in Oekrane. Al denk ik aan de andere hand niet dat Rusland daarmee vrienden zou hebben gemaakt. (Al zijn het ook veel van de Russische vrienden die juist wel deze, al dan niet tijdelijke, wapenstilstand willen hebben natuurlijk).quote:The Only Country in the UN Security Council That Abstained From Voting For A Ceasefire in Gaza Was….Russia
On June 10, 2024, the United Nations Security Council adopted a resolution calling for an “immediate, full and complete ceasefire” in Gaza.
14 countries in the UN Security Council voted to back the US resolution on a three-part ceasefire. Only one country abstained, and that was Russia.
quote:FT: NATO's B9 group considers barring Hungary from meetings
Diplomats of the Bucharest Nine (B9), a group of central and eastern European NATO allies, discussed the possibility of excluding Hungary from future meetings of the club, the Financial Times (FT) reported on June 11, citing its undisclosed sources.
The Bucharest Nine is a group of central and eastern European NATO members, namely Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Hungary, and the Czech Republic. It was established in 2015 in response to Russia's aggression against Ukraine in Crimea and Donbas.
Riga will host the B9 summit on June 11. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg is expected to join the leaders.
At recent meetings, Hungary vetoed the group's joint conclusions on increasing aid for Ukraine and approving any steps related to Kyiv's NATO membership, the FT wrote.
One of the newspaper's sources described the discussions at gatherings as "tough," saying that it will be difficult to organize future meetings if they do not become more collaborative.
Budapest once again refused to support the draft statement agreed upon by other countries, the officials told FT.
The discussions about Hungary's exclusion from the club are "very serious," another source said.
"We are likely meeting in this format for the last time," one of the people told the FT.
Budapest has repeatedly opposed Ukraine's accession to NATO and the EU, sanctions on Russia, undermined Western aid efforts for Ukraine, and maintained close relations with Moscow throughout the full-scale war.
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban claimed in late May that NATO's current direction might result in a clash with Russia, adding that Budapest is working to redefine its position in NATO so that it could refrain from any actions outside of the alliance's territory.
quote:Sahra Wagenknecht Alliance stays away from Selenski’s speech – AfD follows suit
Ukrainian President Selensky has given his first speech in person in the Bundestag. BSW representatives and most AfD MPs stayed away from the speech.
Berlin. The majority of the AfD parliamentary group and the Sahra Wagenknecht ( BSW ) alliance demonstratively stayed away from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Selensky 's speech in the Bundestag on Tuesday . The AfD parliamentary group executive had previously recommended this. Only four of the 77 AfD MPs were present in the plenary session for Selensky's speech. None of the ten BSW MPs were present. Representatives of other parties sharply criticized this.
"We refuse to listen to a speaker in camouflage," said parliamentary group leaders Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla. "The federal government should not give him a platform to beg for reconstruction. The citizens pay more than enough for military aid, EU aid and citizen's allowance for Ukrainians." Ukraine needs a peace president who is willing to negotiate.
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
quote:Russian attacks kill 4, injure 11 people in Kharkiv region over past day
UKRAINE, KHARKIV OBLAST, June 11 — On the evening of June 10, Russian troops shelled Staryi Saltiv in the Kharkiv region, killing a person, reported Oleh Syniehubov, Kharkiv Oblast Governor.
Towns and villages of the Kharkiv Oblast, especially border settlements, came under massive Russian artillery shelling and airstrikes since Russia launched a new ground offensive north and northeast of the region in the Vovchansk and Lyptsi directions on May 10.
As Syniehubov reported, on the morning of June 10, the Russian army dropped guided bombs (KABs) on Dementiivka in the Kharkiv region, killing one person and injuring three others. They also hit Novopokrovka community with ballistic missiles, killing a man and injuring another.
Also, on June 10, the Russian military dropped three glide bombs (UMPB D-30) on the Saltivskyi and Kyivskyi districts of Kharkiv. The Russian bomb attack killed one and injured seven people. They also damaged 35 houses, 86 garages, and 22 cars, Syniehubov reports.
The mayor of Kharkiv, Ihor Terekhov, reports that in May alone, the Russians attacked the city 76 times. This is almost three times more than in April. The Russians dropped glide bombs on Kharkiv 37 times. They also launched missiles, and conducted 12 Shahed UAV strikes, and three Lancet drone strikes.
Read more
• At night, Russian troops launched a drone strike on the village of Petrovske in the Zolochiv community in the Kharkiv region, damaging a house and its annex
Op 4 na, en de gehele Sahra Wagenknecht ( BSW ) alliance was ook verdwenen. Kinderachtig gedoe weer.quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 01:42 schreef SnertMetChoco het volgende:
[ afbeelding ]
https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)iamentary_group_was/
quote:In Europe they are trying to block the new route of migrants through the Russian Federation
Only the hum of mosquitoes disturbs the tranquility of this idyllic corner among the forests and blue lakes of eastern Finland, on the longest border of the European Union with Russia. But Finnish authorities fear the peace and quiet of the area could soon be disrupted by the arrival of large numbers of asylum seekers - part of what Helsinki sees as a hybrid war Russia is waging against the West. Finland is increasing the number of border patrols, drones and electronic detectors, and building border fences. Source: Reuters
Parliament is expected to approve tough new legislation before the summer recess, which critics say will violate the country's human rights obligations.
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
quote:The ousters of top reconstruction officials undermine the West's trust in Zelenskyy - Anti-corruption CEO
The resignations of Infrastructure Restoration & Development head Mustafa Nayyem and Reconstruction Minister Oleksandr Kubrakov are public administration "suicide" in Ukraine, Anti-Corruption Action Center (AntAC) CEO, Daria Kaleniuk, told Radio NV.
The moves are likely to affect international politics and trust in the Ukrainian state, she added.
She addressed Nayyem’s and Kubrakov’s resignations on the eve of the Ukraine Recovery Conference in Germany.
What happened behind the scenes?
Kubrakov’s cooperation with National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) was one of the reasons for his dismissal, Mustafa Nayyem was involved as well, Kaleniuk said.
“Some unnamed MPs approached both of them with an offer of a bribe regarding a reconstruction project,” she said.
“They did not take a bribe, they documented all this, as it should be, together with NABU, and immediately became outcasts in governmental structures.”
“It would be much more reasonable to send Reconstruction Agency head to the (Ukraine Recovery) Conference in Berlin - as he was not yet dismissed. The Agency itself had worked with the German government for almost a year and our partners, in particular the Germans, trusted the Agency very much."
The Agency'slack of representation at the conference undermines Ukraine's reputation on the international stage
“This is a kind of suicide for Ukrainian public administration," Kaleniuk said.
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
quote:Ships of the Russian Federation are hiding behind foreign civilian vessels
Ships of the Russian Federation are hiding behind foreign civilian vessels
Russian ships in the Sea of Azov are covered by foreign civilian vessels, which creates potential international problems in the event of their damage.
Despite the official closure of the Kerch Strait, there are foreign civilian vessels in the Sea of Azov. This was stated by the spokesman of the Navy of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Dmytro Pletenchuk, UNIAN writes.
Thus, several amphibious ships and three missile boats of the Russian fleet moved from Novorossiysk to the Sea of Azov for exercises. Russians use foreign ships as a shield. Accidental damage to them can lead to complications in the international arena.
“They (note: Russian ships) went to Azov, but it is shallow. There are not many ways to travel. But now they move in a pile with civilian vessels. Another question is what these civilians are doing there, considering that the Kerch Strait is officially closed by Ukraine,” said Pletenchuk.
However, there are not only foreign ships in the Sea of Azov, but also Russian ones. The latter take part in looting the occupied territories of southern Ukraine, using the ports of Mariupol and Berdyansk.
quote:Croatia Prepares An-32B for Transfer to Ukrainian State Emergency Service
The air fleet of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine will be replenished with at least one An-32B transport aircraft, which is being handed over by Croatia.
A photo of the aircraft with the tail number 36 “blue” during the flight was published by the spotter Chris Lofting.
The picture was taken on June 8, 2024, at Zagreb International Airport.
This is one of two An-32Bs that have been in service with the Croatian Air Force since 1995, but since 2014 have not been operated and have been mothballed.
There is currently no official information on the this aircraft’s transfer conditions.
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
Mooi, hopelijk heeft die verrader nog flink geleden, vuile ratquote:
Can the T-34 return to service as an infantry fighting vehicle?quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 00:34 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
Can the T-34 return to service as an infantry fighting vehicle?
Wel duidelijk welke mensen opgepakt moeten worden mocht het oorlog worden.quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 01:51 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
[..]
Op 4 na, en de gehele Sahra Wagenknecht ( BSW ) alliance was ook verdwenen. Kinderachtig gedoe weer.
Yup. Deed het heel lekker... tegen de Pz.IVquote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 10:12 schreef StateOfMind het volgende:
De T-34, dat is toch die tank uit WW2 😱
Kv85 was de betere tank, maar daar werden er niet zo ontzettend veel van gemaakt.quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 10:41 schreef AgLarrr het volgende:
[..]
Yup. Deed het heel lekker... tegen de Pz.IV
Het meest revolutionaire aan de T34 was de "sloped armor" en de eenvoudige wijze van fabricage meen ik. Je kon ze sneller bouwen dan ze stuk gingen. Een Russische Sherman, eigenlijk.quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 10:52 schreef Straatcommando. het volgende:
[..]
Kv85 was de betere tank, maar daar werden er niet zo ontzettend veel van gemaakt.
Tigers en Panthers wisten (uiteindelijk)wel raad met t34's, voornamelijk vanwege de beroerde of eigenlijk afwezige cordinatie tussen andere tanks.
Dat, of ze waren stuk. Herkenbaar beeld is het niet?
De duitsers waren lang fan van de lego methode idd. Tm de tiger waren het allemaal blokkendozen.quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 10:55 schreef AgLarrr het volgende:
[..]
Het meest revolutionaire aan de T34 was de "sloped armor" en de eenvoudige wijze van fabricage meen ik. Je kon ze sneller bouwen dan ze stuk gingen. Een Russische Sherman, eigenlijk.
Wel ironisch dat er qua doctrine (kwantiteit boven kwaliteit) daar niets veranderd is idd.
"meat armour".quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 10:09 schreef over_hedge het volgende:
[..]
Can the T-34 return to service as an infantry fighting vehicle?
Altijd handig. Een ifv met vrijwel geen ruimte voor infantry
Sloped armor was al bekend in de 1e wereld oorlog, je kunt het zien bij een hoop tanks. Ook de Duitsers wisten ervan toen ze de bijv de Pz 1 maakten.quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 10:55 schreef AgLarrr het volgende:
[..]
Het meest revolutionaire aan de T34 was de "sloped armor" en de eenvoudige wijze van fabricage meen ik. Je kon ze sneller bouwen dan ze stuk gingen. Een Russische Sherman, eigenlijk.
Wel ironisch dat er qua doctrine (kwantiteit boven kwaliteit) daar niets veranderd is idd.
Ja, en die spuuglelijke lassen gewoon opserveren als meesterwerkquote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 11:13 schreef oheng het volgende:
Ik zou de T-34 liever vergelijken met de Buhanka loaf, waarvan ik hierboven een russische review heb geplaatst. Het is troep, extreem slecht in elkaar gelast,
t is echt treurig dat al die Bukhanka's tot hoopjes rokend schroot worden gereduceerd, hier betaal je 30k voor een gemporteerde en dan moet je m nog tot camper ombouwen.quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 11:13 schreef oheng het volgende:
[..]
Sloped armor was al bekend in de 1e wereld oorlog, je kunt het zien bij een hoop tanks. Ook de Duitsers wisten ervan toen ze de bijv de Pz 1 maakten.
Je ziet ook als een T-34 geraakt wordt, de lasnaden losspringen. Als je bijvoorbeeld een Sherman van dichtbij bekijkt, dan kun je die honderd keer beschieten, de lasnaden houden.
Ik zou de T-34 liever vergelijken met de Buhanka loaf, waarvan ik hierboven een russische review heb geplaatst. Het is troep, extreem slecht in elkaar gelast, extreem oncomfortabel, extreem lage overlevingskansen. Enige voordeel is dat er heel veel van waren.
Is dan de Volvo C303 misschien niet een goedkoper alternatief dan?quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 12:22 schreef Gripper het volgende:
[..]
t is echt treurig dat al die Bukhanka's tot hoopjes rokend schroot worden gereduceerd, hier betaal je 30k voor een gemporteerde en dan moet je m nog tot camper ombouwen.
Een voordeel: als Rusland straks economisch helemaal op zn gat ligt, kan je ze misschien voor een prikkie importeren.
[ afbeelding ]
Dan staan we op 7-8 stuks.quote:Op dinsdag 11 juni 2024 23:43 schreef skysherrif het volgende:
Amerika gaat een patriot systeem aan Oekraine leveren jaaaaaa
https://x.com/mikepesoli/status/1800641806205440092
Was al bekend in de Amerikaanse burgeroorlog.quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 11:13 schreef oheng het volgende:
[..]
Sloped armor was al bekend in de 1e wereld oorlog,
quote:Ukrainian FPV Drone Destroys Russian EW System Station
R-330BMV station of the Borisoglebsk-2 EW system. 2019. Russia. Frame from the video "My GoPro Life"
Mountain infantry destroyed the station of the Russian Borisoglebsk-2 electronic warfare system using an FPV-drone.
Volunteer Serhii Sternenko said that this combat mission was conducted by the soldiers of the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade.
“One of the most expensive targets is destroyed with an FPV. The Borisoglebsk-2 EW system is one of the most powerful in the service of Russians,” the volunteer said.
The R-330BMV station was hit by a drone of the mountain assault brigade’s ‘Taystra’ unit.
The mission was carried out at a rather long distance from the place of departure of the drone.
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
Zo kan ik ook dorpen innemen lol. Wat voor een oude kaarten gebruiken ze wel niet in het Russisch leger?quote:Russians falsely claim victory in battle for Ukraine village that hasn't existed for 37 years
The Russian Ministry of Defense fabricated the capture of two Ukrainian villages in Luhansk and Kharkiv oblasts
The Russians have once again lied about the seizure of several settlements, including one that has not existed for 37 years, Nazar Voloshyn, a spokesman for the Khortytsia Operational-Strategic Group, said in a comment to LIGA.net.
Stay updated with the latest news by following us on X (Twitter)
On June 11, the Russian Ministry of Defense released a statement claiming that occupiers had taken control of the villages of Artemivka in the Luhansk Oblast and Tymkivka in the Kharkiv Oblast. Voloshyn said that the village of Tymkivka had been abolished in 1987. In addition, Artemivka was renamed Myasozharivka in 2016 as part of the decommunization process.
"Currently, Myasozharivka is under the control of the Ukrainian Defense Forces!" the spokesperson stated.
In response to LIGA.net's question about whether the Russians had penetrated the area formerly known as Tymkivka (20 km east of Kupiansk), Voloshyn confirmed that there are no occupiers there either.
quote:Ukraine Launches Unmanned Systems Force as New Military Branch
Ivan Havrylyuk, Deputy Minister of Defense against the background of the logo of the Unmanned Systems Forces, June 11, 2024
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have introduced a new military branch aimed at supporting and developing units of unmanned systems, according to a report by Militarnyi.
Representatives from the Armed Forces and the Ministry of Defense presented the Unmanned Systems Force, a pioneering branch in the world of military organizations on June 11, 2024 in Kyiv.
The symbol for this new branch is a swallow.
The Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, Vadym Sukharevsky, has been appointed as the Commander of the Unmanned Systems Force. During the presentation, he stated that the creation of this new structure is a response to modern battlefield requirements and is based on contemporary military experience.
“We showed the whole world today that Ukraine has moved away from a conservative approach. Today we set a precedent. Thus, we are ready to dictate the rules of this war for further success,” stated Sukharevsky.
Ik voorzie dat het relatief kort gaat duren voordat de meeste legers een militaire tak hebben voor drones/drone oorlogsvoering. Deze oorlog heeft bewezen hoe effectief dit wel niet is tenslotte.SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
Van mensen die in een Buhanka hebben gereden, weet ik dat ze extreem k#t rijden. Als in: afgrijselijk.quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 12:22 schreef Gripper het volgende:
[..]
t is echt treurig dat al die Bukhanka's tot hoopjes rokend schroot worden gereduceerd, hier betaal je 30k voor een gemporteerde en dan moet je m nog tot camper ombouwen.
Een voordeel: als Rusland straks economisch helemaal op zn gat ligt, kan je ze misschien voor een prikkie importeren.
[ afbeelding ]
quote:Baltic states to disconnect from joint Russian power grid in February 2025
The Baltic states will disconnect from the energy system shared with Russia and Belarus to join the European grid in February 2025, Interfax Russia reported on June 11.
Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are the only EU countries not yet connected to the continental grid, instead being part of the BRELL system, which comprises the three Baltic states, Russia, and Belarus.
The Baltic nations initially aimed to join the European system by the end of 2025. However, following Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, they advanced the timeline by nearly a year.
Estonian Deputy Minister of Energy and Mineral Resources Jaanus Uiga said the countries would disconnect on Feb. 8, 2025, and join the European system the following day through the Lithuanian-Polish connection.
"The desynchronization process, which lasted about 20 years, will be completed after the operators of the electric power systems of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania announce to Russia and Belarus that they will no longer continue to work in a joint synchronous space," Uiga remarked, as reported by Interfax Russia.
Tensions between the Baltic states and Russia have escalated significantly since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
A coalition including the Baltic states, Poland, Norway, and Finland agreed on May 24 to establish a "drone wall" to bolster their collective borders.
This development follows an earlier announcement by Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk in May, confirming Poland's contract to join the European Sky Shield Initiative.
This initiative, currently comprising 21 countries, aims to develop an Iron Dome-style air defense system to protect NATO members across Europe.
quote:EBRD to provide 1 billion euros for Ukraine's battered energy infrastructure
The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) has pledged 1 billion euros ($1.07 billion) to assist Ukraine in repairing its damaged energy infrastructure, EBRD President Odile Renaud-Basso said on June 11.
Renaud-Basso said an agreement would be signed on the sidelines of the Ukraine Recovery Conference in Berlin.
She emphasized a shift toward supporting distributed energy capacities, highlighting the importance of not only generating energy but also distributing it effectively.
"Efforts will now be focused on distributed energy capacities, not just on generating capacities, as was the case last year," Renaud-Basso said in comments reported by Ukrinform.
The EBRD has been actively supporting Ukraine, having invested 3.8 billion euros ($4 billion) between 2022 and 2023, with the investment reaching 4 billion euros ($4.3 billion) by February 2024.
In December 2023, the bank's board approved a 4-billion-euro capital increase to bring its capital base to 34 billion euros in order to sustain support for Ukraine long-term.
The latest tranche of aid will particularly benefit decentralized heating in Ukraine's Lutsk Oblast. Renaud-Basso underscored the significance of such assistance, stating that it enables people to remain in the country and continue supporting the war effort amid ongoing conflict.
Russian missile and drone attacks have reportedly destroyed 9 gigawatts (GW) of Ukraine's capacity.
The peak energy consumption last winter was 18 GW, and "half of that is gone now," President Volodymyr Zelensky said at the same conference on June 11.
In an interview with the Kyiv Independent on June 9, Executive Director of Ukraine’s largest privately-owned energy company DTEK Dmytro Sakharuk, said Ukrainians could face up to 20 hours of blackouts a day under a “worst-case” scenario if the country cannot repair and properly defend its energy infrastructure from Russian attacks.
quote:Aid worker makes 3,000 pizzas a day for Ukrainians
Tom Hughes and his team make about 3,000 pizzas each day to serve to Ukrainians
A humanitarian aid worker, who went out to Ukraine two years ago to give out free pizzas, has been serving them up ever since.
Tom Hughes, from Hinton in Wiltshire, drives a truck with 11 ovens to bake pizzas for communities in the war-torn country.
He first travelled to the Poland/Ukraine border in March 2022, intending to stay a fortnight to help refugees fleeing from the Russian invasion.
He now manages a fleet of seven vehicles and two teams for the charity, HopeFull, one of which is based in Lviv and the other in eastern Ukraine where Russian bombardment is a daily occurrence.
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
Ja! dat is een veel beter voorbeeld! Het is russische of communistische propaganda dat de T-34 revolutionair was.quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 13:13 schreef Ulx het volgende:
[..]
Was al bekend in de Amerikaanse burgeroorlog.
[ afbeelding ]
quote:Victory in Ukraine would dramatically strengthen Putin’s war machine
What will Vladimir Putin do next if he wins in Ukraine? In recent months, more and more Western policymakers have reached the conclusion that a victorious Russia would almost certainly expand the war deeper into Europe as Putin seeks to rewrite the existing world order and continue on his crusade to return “historically Russian lands.” This realization is helping to rally support for Ukraine, with leaders such as French President Emmanuel Macron now openly warning that a Russian victory would have disastrous consequences for the rest of Europe.
Not everyone is convinced, of course. Many skeptics point to the Russian army’s surprisingly poor performance during the invasion of Ukraine, and argue that Putin is clearly in no position to embark on further military adventures. According to the doubters, Russia’s obvious difficulties in Ukraine mean Moscow cannot be regarded as a genuine threat to the far greater military might of the NATO alliance. Indeed, some are convinced that any direct Russian attack on the West would amount to a suicide mission.
This argument is dangerously shortsighted. Crucially, it ignores the profound impact military success in Ukraine would have on the Kremlin’s ability to wage war. A Russian victory over Ukraine would transform the geopolitical situation, greatly strengthening Russia militarily, economically, and strategically, while at the same time severely weakening the West. Faced with such uniquely favorable circumstances, it is delusional to believe a triumphant Putin would simply stop and go no further.
Prima verwoord waarom het westen door moet gaan met hun onvoorwaardelijke steun aan Oekrane. En waarom, indien Rusland de oorlog wint van Oekrane, wij niet verast moeten zijn als wij daarna aan de beurt zijn (EU/NAVO). Wij moeten hier dus zo goed als mogelijk op voorbereid zijn. Voor het geval dat.SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
quote:Argentine President changes plans to attend Ukraine Peace Summit
Zelenskyy's request influences Milei's decision – La Nacion
Argentine President Javier Milei has made a last-minute decision to attend the Ukraine Peace Summit in Switzerland this weekend, reversing his previous plans, after a specific request from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, according to La Nacion.
Argentine journalists report that Milei decided within a few hours to change his route and fly from Italy to Switzerland to participate in the summit on Saturday, June 15, an event organized at the initiative of Zelenskyy.
According to sources, Milei reconsidered his plans after a "specific request" from Zelenskyy.
According to Clarin, Zelenskyy sent a special message to the Argentine president urging him to attend at least the opening ceremony of the summit.
On June 7, La Nacion reported that Milei would not be able to attend the summit due to "other plans" scheduled for that time.
quote:Netherlands allocates 60 million euros to purchase drones for Ukraine
Kajsa Ollongren, the Dutch Defence Minister, announced during a recent visit to Kyiv that 60 million euros would be assigned to "develop the potential of offensive drones for Ukraine".
Source: Dutch Ministry of Defence, cited by European Pravda
Details: Out of the 60 million euros allocated by the Netherlands, a third – 20 million euros – will be used to purchase FPV drones through a drone coalition, which was established earlier this year as part of the Contact Group on Ukraine's defence.
Another 17.5 million euros are allocated for the purchase of marine drones and their production in Ukraine.
The remaining funds will be used for bilateral supplies of various types of drones and will be allocated for purchases from the Dutch industry.
Background:
• The UK, together with Latvia, leads an international drone coalition formed within the framework of the Contact Group on Ukraine's Defence.
• Last week, they announced a tender for the supply of FPV drones to Ukraine worth 352,000.
Mooi, altijd goed om alternatieven te hebben. Vooral omdat Musk niet te vertrouwen is.quote:Ukraine finds Starlink alternative for targeting Crimea's waters
Ukraine has found a satellite communication system that could serve as an alternative to Starlink. This is necessary for drone strikes in the waters of Crimea, according to the Commander of the Unmanned Systems Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Vadym Sukharevskyi.
"This issue is being solved (alternative to Starlink - ed.), and a working group was created for dialogue. An alternative exists, dialogue is ongoing, and in the near future, we expect a positive outcome in this dialogue," Sukharevskyi stated.
Ukrainian Armed Forces use Starlink
Ukrainian defenders use tens of thousands of Starlink terminals, actively employing them in the war against Russian forces.
Such satellite communication systems help Ukrainian soldiers to attack Russian forces using drones.
However, in September 2023, CNN reported that Elon Musk supposedly secretly instructed his engineers to disable the Starlink network near the coast of temporarily occupied Crimea, fearing that Ukrainians would use his satellite communication system to attack the Russian fleet.
Musk himself denied this information, claiming that the network near the Ukrainian peninsula was not operational before.
quote:EU proposes extending temporary protection for Ukrainians to March 2026
The EU believes that it is not yet safe for Ukrainians to return home
The European Commission has proposed extending temporary protection for Ukrainians who fled to the EU because of Russia's military aggression for another year, from March 5, 2025, to March 4, 2026, according to the European Commission's website.
"Given continued Russian attacks on the civil and critical infrastructure across Ukraine, safe and durable conditions for the return of people to Ukraine are not currently in place. The Commission therefore considers that the reasons for temporary protection persist and that it should be prolonged for another year as a necessary and appropriate response to the current situation," the statement said.
On June 13, the European Commission will submit the proposal to extend temporary protection to ministers at the Justice and Home Affairs Council, after which the EU Council will have to approve the proposal formally.
Currently, nearly 4.2 million Ukrainians in EU countries benefit from temporary protection status.
Temporary protection grants Ukrainians the ability to exercise certain rights in the EU, including the right to reside, access the labor market, housing, social, medical, and other assistance. It also helps member states manage the arrival of people in an organized and effective manner.
The EU activated the Temporary Protection Directive by unanimous decision of the member states on March 4, 2022, and it has been automatically extended twice for one year until March 4, 2025.
Lol, als ik zo die Karl zijn account bekijk zit hij diep in de Russische propaganda. En sowieso, in het begin van de oorlog hadden de soldaten geen keus, ze waren gemobiliseerd en onder het mom van een grootschalige oefening nabij de grens werden zij de oorlog in gestuurt.quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 14:42 schreef polderturk het volgende:
https://x.com/clashreport(...)5f1ZHlnn5bJbRww&s=19
En de reactie hierop.
[ x ]
Lijkt mij meer dan logisch dat je op het ogenblik geen Russen in de buurt van kritische infrastructuur wil hebben wonen. Dat zelfde geld ook voor bijvoorbeeld de Chinezen.quote:Russian real estate in Finland poses a security threat - Prime Minister
Finnish Prime Minister Petteri Orpo said measures are being prepared to address potential security risks associated with the presence of Russian property near critical infrastructure. Source: Bloomberg
Read also: In Finland, transactions for the sale of real estate to Russians were blocked due to the issue of national security
For years, Finland allowed Russians to buy land and real estate without security checks. But after the war began, the Finns realized the risk that such assets could be used against them.
Since then, Finland has carried out a full inspection of the Russians' real estate, Petteri Orpo said. “We see a potential security threat in the fact that we have Russian and other foreign owners of real estate and land near critical infrastructure... Common sense dictates that if there is a real risk to national security, then we should be able to act,” he says He.
After passing a law allowing the state to intervene in real estate transactions before they are completed, Finland is currently drafting a complete ban on real estate purchases.
According to the preliminary version, the ban would apply to citizens of states whose homeland was found to have “violated the territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence of another state and may threaten the security of Finland.”
Decisions on such measures have not yet been made, and it is too early to say whether “we can retroactively strengthen them or expropriate property... This is a very complex legal issue, and therefore we need to carefully analyze how to proceed,” Orpo said.
Let us recall that the Finnish military entered into secret agreements with land owners for the construction of fortifications on the border with Russia.
Earlier it was reported that Finland will deny suspicious Russians asylum right at the border.
Zoals dit ook een groot risico is. Chinese bedrijven die waarschijnlijk Chinese camera's en andere Chinese apparatuur gaan plaatsen voor het toezicht houden op de grens tussen Estland en Rusland is ook niet iets wat je wil hebben.quote:Chinese company may receive contract to monitor Estonia's eastern border
A company with a Chinese owner may receive a contract to install monitoring equipment on the Estonian border. Source: Delfi
A company owned by Chinese conglomerate Hikvision, BK Eesti O, is one of four bidders in the tender to install monitoring equipment on Estonia's eastern border.
Tender proposals were also submitted by G4S Eesti, Cybernetica and Hansavalve with subcontractor BK Eesti O and Optimus Systems.
It is noted that all proposals comply with established requirements and are currently under consideration by the Police and Border Guard Board (PDB). The contract has not yet been concluded.
BK Eesti O's involvement raises questions due to its connection with Hikvision, which is known for its close ties to the Chinese government.
The problem is that in Estonia there is no law prohibiting the use of technology or the participation of companies in government procurement for reasons of national security.
Estonian security services have repeatedly warned about the threats posed by the use of Chinese technology in critical infrastructure. The Police and Border Guard Board is aware of the risks, but cannot disqualify the company due to public procurement legislation.
It was previously reported that the Ministry of Internal Affairs intends to amend the legislation to prohibit third-country citizens from purchasing real estate in places that are strategically important for Estonia . However, the project is complicated by the state's reluctance to publish a list of such objects.
quote:Media: Explosions reported across occupied Crimea, Krasnodar Krai
Explosions were heard in missile attacks in multiple cities across occupied Crimea, as well as in a community in Russia's Krasnodar Krai overnight on June 12, the Telegram channel Crimean Wind reported.
At around 2:47 a.m. local time, explosions were heard in Sevastopol. Immediately afterwards, explosions rang out in the western cities of Yevpatoria and Saky, as well as the northern community of Krasnoperekopsk.
A small number of explosions was also heard in the community of Armyanskii in Russia's Krasnodar Krai around 4 a.m. local time, according to Crimean Wind.
According to Crimean Wind, unconfirmed reports suggest that an S-400 air defense system may have been damaged as a result of the attack. No official information is currently available on damage to infrastructure.
Russian-installed proxy Governor of Sevastopol Mikhail Razvozhayev claimed that there were damage of injuries reported as a result of the attack.
The Kyiv Independent cannot independently verify any of the claims.
Ukraine's Armed Forces have yet to take responsibility for the attack, nor have they provided comment.
Ukraine's General Staff confirmed on June 10 that Armed Forces attacked Russian S-400 and S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems in several areas in occupied Crimea overnight.
Ukraine has carried out a number of successful attacks against Russian targets in Crimea and its vicinity, heavily degrading the Russian Black Sea Fleet.
quote:Russia Can Be Forced to Pay for Its Crimes: A Proposal
A little-understood international court power opens the way for substantial and enforceable compensation rulings against Russia.
While democratic leaders debate the best way to use $260bn-plus in frozen Russian assets to aid Ukraine, a far easier route is available and unused.
G7 leaders meeting in Italy from June 13-15 will consider a US-led proposal to use the assets as collateral for loans of as much as $50bn. But there are considerable legal and political hurdles to overcome.
Some 210bn ($226bn) of Russian Central Bank assets have been frozen in Europe since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. European Union (EU) officials have said there are no lawful options to seize it. In fact, one such option exists but remains overlooked. Russian state assets should be used to pay compensation awarded by the European Court of Human Rights, the court of the Council of Europe.
Russia was expelled from the Council of Europe in March 2022 following its all-out invasion of Ukraine. However, it remained a party to the European Convention on Human Rights until 16 September 2022 and the Court can still adjudicate on any violations that occurred up to that date.
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
Daar zitten inderdaad een paar hele mooie grote explosies tussen. Alleen jammer dat er verder geen context bij gegeven wordt, zoals wanneer en waar deze waren.quote:
Wat denk je? Komen ze Trump redden?quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 15:04 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
Lang artikel over dat Ruzzische vlootje dat op weg is naar Cuba en waar de u wel bekende trollen/propagandapushers op twitter al dagen vol over op het orgel gaan.
Russian Naval Group Shadowed Off Florida By U.S., Allies
[ afbeelding ]
quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 14:15 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cljj57e2693o
[..]Franky & Coen 2.0SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
Steun het Kiva Fok! team!
http://www.kiva.org/team/fok
Vast als voorbereiding op de F-16. Maar natuurlijk zijn het sowieso al geweldige doelwitten. Hopelijk zijn er afgelopen nacht weer wat geraakt dus. Al waren er al wel geruchten dat Rusland bezig is om ze terug te trekken.quote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 15:27 schreef oheng het volgende:
[..]
De S-300 en S-400's op de Krim worden opgedoekt.
Het is natuurlijk de schuld van linkse oorlogshitsers die Rusland hebben geprovoceerd!!!quote:
Een aantal filmpjes in het artikel. Al is er niet veel te zien.quote:Explosions heard in occupied Crimea
Russian air defense systems are operating in Sevastopol, Yevpatoriya, Bakhchysarai, and Pervomaisk districts of temporarily occupied Crimea, according to Telegram channels TASS and Krymskyi Veter.
"Loud explosions are heard in Sevastopol," writes Krymskyi Veter, citing subscribers.
They also reported explosions from Yevpatoriya to Sevastopol.
"Strong explosions are heard in the Bakhchysarai district. A missile was seen flying in the sky, about 20 explosions were heard in the area of Belbek, a subscriber reported," according to one of the channel's posts.
At 3:20, TASS reported the repulsion of a missile attack in Sevastopol. Concerning the governor, the agency wrote that there are no ruins or casualties.
At 3:55, there are also reports of explosions in Saky, Krasnoperekopsk, Chornomorsk, and Simferopol.
Updated at 4:40. A source from Krymskyi Veter reported possible damage to an S-400 air defense system near Sevastopol, warning that this information needs confirmation.
According to the channel, the first explosions in Sevastopol were heard at 2:47. In Yevpatoriya, Saky, and Krasnoperekopsk, explosions were heard at 2:50. In the rest of the peninsula, people just heard all this.
Wat een eikelquote:Op woensdag 12 juni 2024 15:38 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
[..]
Het is natuurlijk de schuld van linkse oorlogshitsers die Rusland hebben geprovoceerd!!!
Natuurlijk heeft deze "onafhankelijke" journalist ook een mening:
[ x ]
| Forum Opties | |
|---|---|
| Forumhop: | |
| Hop naar: | |