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'Honestly, they're all going to die' What Russian soldiers who have already fought in Ukraine think about Putin's mobilization effort
When I decided to go to Ukraine, I was a staunch patriot. I believed there were Nazi formations of some kind there, like the Right Sector, the Aidar [Battalion], the Azov [Battalion]. Plus I’d watched a bunch of [Russian] films like Soltsepyok and Opolchenochka. Plus, all of the Telegram and TV channels were designed to pump [that stuff into] our brains.
But even while we were still being driven across the border in the Ural [truck], I realized that we were the occupiers, we were the fascists. I [...] was sitting in the truck bed, watching the scenes going by. What we were leaving behind. All of those destroyed villages in Kharkiv. I realized we were actually destroying a country. Along with its civilian population.
You’d go through a village and children would run out onto the road and gesture after you: either “smoke” or “eat.” I just couldn’t wrap my head around it. The world was upside down; I felt empty inside. You realize all of your life so far was fiction. A soap bubble.
We traveled like that to Izium [in the Kharkiv region]. I spent three days on the frontline — and got another wake-up call when our own artillery fired at us. Then those stupid commands began…
I’ve served more than a few times, and I can tell when I’m being sent into battle. And I immediately told this guy with big epaulets to fuck off: “I’m not just a bargaining chip! I’m a soldier for the Russian army! You can’t just throw me under the bus like this!” To which he answered, “You’re all just cannon fodder. You’re the third group of people to form this battalion. Do you know where the first two groups died? And you’ll die here.” Then he told my commander, “Send in the meat." [Us.]
They were trying to advance, and they threw us at a Ukrainian stronghold, where tanks, artillery, and machine guns were all operating. And the Ukrainians had hundreds of troops, while we only had 40.
Lees verder: https://meduza.io/en/feat(...)l-going-to-die-there
When I decided to go to Ukraine, I was a staunch patriot. I believed there were Nazi formations of some kind there, like the Right Sector, the Aidar [Battalion], the Azov [Battalion]. Plus I’d watched a bunch of [Russian] films like Soltsepyok and Opolchenochka. Plus, all of the Telegram and TV channels were designed to pump [that stuff into] our brains.
But even while we were still being driven across the border in the Ural [truck], I realized that we were the occupiers, we were the fascists. I [...] was sitting in the truck bed, watching the scenes going by. What we were leaving behind. All of those destroyed villages in Kharkiv. I realized we were actually destroying a country. Along with its civilian population.
You’d go through a village and children would run out onto the road and gesture after you: either “smoke” or “eat.” I just couldn’t wrap my head around it. The world was upside down; I felt empty inside. You realize all of your life so far was fiction. A soap bubble.
We traveled like that to Izium [in the Kharkiv region]. I spent three days on the frontline — and got another wake-up call when our own artillery fired at us. Then those stupid commands began…
I’ve served more than a few times, and I can tell when I’m being sent into battle. And I immediately told this guy with big epaulets to fuck off: “I’m not just a bargaining chip! I’m a soldier for the Russian army! You can’t just throw me under the bus like this!” To which he answered, “You’re all just cannon fodder. You’re the third group of people to form this battalion. Do you know where the first two groups died? And you’ll die here.” Then he told my commander, “Send in the meat." [Us.]
They were trying to advance, and they threw us at a Ukrainian stronghold, where tanks, artillery, and machine guns were all operating. And the Ukrainians had hundreds of troops, while we only had 40.
Lees verder: https://meduza.io/en/feat(...)l-going-to-die-there
Want Oekraïne ligt niet meer in Europa ofzo?quote:Op woensdag 28 september 2022 18:13 schreef quirina het volgende:
Dus de oorlog is officieel Europa binnen gesijpeld hoor ik net op bnr.
Ben benieuwd naar het journaal straks.
Ik neem alvast de popcorn maar ik denk dat er niets gaat gebeuren.quote:
Maar als we even de afgelopen paar dagen samen nemen, annexatie ophanden, nucleaire dreiging, pijpleidingen die boem doen, de VS die hun mensen oproept zsm te vertrekken. Dan is het toch duidelijk dat er wat broeit, er gaat wat gebeuren. Wellicht al komend weekend.
Cindy De Vuyst
Ik zou het wel humor vinden als Snowden gedraft wordt en aan het front wordt gezet.
Het is koud, het is guur....
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
-Rabia Al-Basri
Gerard Depardieu, of is die daar vertrokken?quote:
Ik zou het wel humor vinden als Snowden gedraft wordt en aan het front wordt gezet.
Gérard Depardieuquote:
Ik zou het wel humor vinden als Steven Seagal gedraft wordt en aan het front wordt gezet.
"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither" Benjamin Franklin
GMTAquote:
[..]
Gerard Depardieu, of is die daar vertrokken?
"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither" Benjamin Franklin
Turkije in ieder geval niet.quote:
Hongarije zal ook tegen zijn want Orban is een liefje van Poetlul.
Turkije was toch overstag?quote:
[..]
Turkije in ieder geval niet.
Hongarije zal ook tegen zijn want Orban is een liefje van Poetlul.
Ceterum censeo Turciam delendam esse.
Overigens is dit vandaag ook al zeker 5x keer vermeld hier. Veel herhaling in dit topic 
"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither" Benjamin Franklin
Jeetje...quote:Op woensdag 28 september 2022 19:01 schreef Whiskers2009 het volgende:
Overigens is dit vandaag ook al zeker 5x keer vermeld hier. Veel herhaling in dit topic
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
-Rabia Al-Basri
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
-Rabia Al-Basri
Niet iedereen is hier continue aanwezig natuurlijk
Perhaps you've seen it, maybe in a dream.
A murky, forgotten land.
A murky, forgotten land.
Ja, nou: ik lees graag nieuws en geen herhalingen... Sue mequote:
Op 
"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither" Benjamin Franklin
Best I can do is:quote:
[..]
Ja, nou: ik lees graag nieuws en geen herhalingen... Sue me
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
-Rabia Al-Basri
Klopt, maar al zaken al uuuuren (of langer) bekend zijn hoef je ze niet te posten alsof het nieuws is natuurlijkquote:
Niet iedereen is hier continue aanwezig natuurlijk
"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither" Benjamin Franklin
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'Honestly, they're all going to die' What Russian soldiers who have already fought in Ukraine think about Putin's mobilization effort
When I decided to go to Ukraine, I was a staunch patriot. I believed there were Nazi formations of some kind there, like the Right Sector, the Aidar [Battalion], the Azov [Battalion]. Plus I’d watched a bunch of [Russian] films like Soltsepyok and Opolchenochka. Plus, all of the Telegram and TV channels were designed to pump [that stuff into] our brains.
But even while we were still being driven across the border in the Ural [truck], I realized that we were the occupiers, we were the fascists. I [...] was sitting in the truck bed, watching the scenes going by. What we were leaving behind. All of those destroyed villages in Kharkiv. I realized we were actually destroying a country. Along with its civilian population.
You’d go through a village and children would run out onto the road and gesture after you: either “smoke” or “eat.” I just couldn’t wrap my head around it. The world was upside down; I felt empty inside. You realize all of your life so far was fiction. A soap bubble.
We traveled like that to Izium [in the Kharkiv region]. I spent three days on the frontline — and got another wake-up call when our own artillery fired at us. Then those stupid commands began…
I’ve served more than a few times, and I can tell when I’m being sent into battle. And I immediately told this guy with big epaulets to fuck off: “I’m not just a bargaining chip! I’m a soldier for the Russian army! You can’t just throw me under the bus like this!” To which he answered, “You’re all just cannon fodder. You’re the third group of people to form this battalion. Do you know where the first two groups died? And you’ll die here.” Then he told my commander, “Send in the meat." [Us.]
They were trying to advance, and they threw us at a Ukrainian stronghold, where tanks, artillery, and machine guns were all operating. And the Ukrainians had hundreds of troops, while we only had 40.
Lees verder: https://meduza.io/en/feat(...)l-going-to-die-there
