Oorlog tussen Armeni� en Azerbeidzjan? #9

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Op donderdag 12 november 2020 14:56 schreef Slayage het volgende:
Nog zo'n Ollander die niet in staat is om voorbij zijn zwart wit visie te kijken

https://joop.bnnvara.nl/c(...)ict-nagorno-karabach

Dude zulke types moet je eigenlijk gewoon negeren. Ze zijn to far gone in hun haat en hypocriete houding.

Het zijn mensen die bewust en selectief moorden en etnische zuiveringen goedkeuren en anderen die er tegen strijden beschuldigen van alles en nog wat. Door en door verrot.

Achja, in maart zagen we ook wat voor volk dit is, toen iedereen egoistisch en zonder medeleven voor de ander de supermarkten leeg gingen kopen. Ze hebben nog nooit iets zwaars meegemaakt door per toeval uit een bepaalde kut te zijn gekomen. Geloof me, als er in Europa ooit de hel losbreekt zoals het M-O, zul je merken hoe "beschaafd" deze mensen daadwerkelijk zijn.

Eigenlijk heb je zoiets niet eens nodig. Ik bedoel ze zwijgen bij de moord van westerse machten op miljoenen moslims afgelopen decennia en schreeuwen moord en brand bij enkele moorden binnen Europa.

Door en door verrot deze mensen.

Turkije gebruikt de taal van geweld tegen de Armenen:

Turkey warns Armenia against breaking Nagorno-Karabakh truce



Azerbaijan’s closest ally says it would resume military action if Armenia does not abide by deal and withdraw ‘voluntarily’.

Days after a peace deal over Nagorno-Karabakh was reached, Turkey has warned Armenia it will have to bear consequences if it violates the ceasefire.

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu told reporters in the Azeri capital Baku on Thursday: “If they [Armenia] violate the ceasefire, then they will pay the price for it.”

Ankara is Azerbaijan’s closest ally in the fight over Nagorno-Karabakh and has been celebrating the peace agreement reached earlier this week between Russia, Azerbaijan and Armenia that favours Baku.

Armenia must “abide by the deal and withdraw voluntarily”, Cavusoglu added, warning Azerbaijan would otherwise resume its military action to “recapture Azerbaijani territories.”

Turkey and Russia agreed on Wednesday to jointly operate a centre to oversee peace in Nagorno-Karabakh.

A Russian delegation is set to visit Turkey on Friday to discuss details of how the joint centre will operate, Cavusoglu said, adding that unmanned armed drones would carry out surveillance missions in the region to ensure there are no violations.

“We will continue to stand by Azerbaijan and support them however they would like us to,” he added.

Russia is sending nearly 2,000 troops to the region to serve as peacekeepers.

On Wednesday, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey would take part in what he called a “peace force” in the region.

Russia’s foreign minister Sergey Lavrov, however, on Thursday said “no peacekeeping units of the Turkish Republic will be dispatched to Nagorno-Karabakh”, according to comments carried by Russian state news agency TASS.

Diplomats from France and the United States were expected in Moscow soon to discuss the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

The Russia-brokered deal secured territorial advances for Azerbaijan in Nagorno-Karabakh, where Azeri troops have been battling ethnic Armenian forces over the past six weeks in a fight that has killed more than 1,000 people, including dozens of civilians on both sides.

The accord has triggered protests in Armenia for the resignation of Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan.

Armenia on Thursday arrested 10 leading opposition figures who were among the protests; they face up to a decade behind bars for their role in “illegal violent mass disorder”, prosecutors said in a statement.

The group had stormed and ransacked government buildings on Tuesday over Pashinyan’s agreement to end the fighting.

Prosecutors announced the arrests hours ahead of a fresh demonstration called by the opposition.

“We consider this to be an act of political persecution,” said Lilit Galstyan from the opposition Dashnaktsutyun party, which saw at least two of its members arrested.

https://www.aljazeera.com(...)gorno-karabakh-truce

Armenen vertrekken uit Qarabag onder dwang van Russische soldaten.

Deze Armeni�r wil weer een genocide uitvoeren zoals in Khojali. En de 7 Azerbeidzjaanse districten ziet hij als Armeens. Zo houdt het nooit op.

The West has left Armenia to fend for itself

https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/11/an-uneasy-peace/

Russen hebben de Armenen ook in de steek gelaten. Poetin keek toe toen de Armenen afgeslacht werden.

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Op donderdag 12 november 2020 16:11 schreef polderturk het volgende:
Deze Armeni�r wil weer een genocide uitvoeren zoals in Khojali. En de 7 Azerbeidzjaanse districten ziet hij als Armeens. Zo houdt het nooit op.

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Er is een oorlog gaande en er wordt met geweld gebied ingenomen en gezuiverd. Nogal logisch dat het niet zomaar ophoudt...

Armenen verbranden hun huizen in Qarabag:

https://t.me/ArmenianVendetta/7130

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Op donderdag 12 november 2020 19:59 schreef Rupibma het volgende:

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Wie begon deze hele Armeense fiasco?

Deze editie werd gestart met Azerbeidzjan als agressor.

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Op donderdag 12 november 2020 15:09 schreef TheMagnificent het volgende:
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Fransozen hebben tegenwoordig een Turken obsessie

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Op donderdag 12 november 2020 20:03 schreef KareldeStoute het volgende:

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Deze editie werd gestart met Azerbeidzjan als agressor.

als je land bezet is kun je moeilijk van agressor spreken

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Op donderdag 12 november 2020 17:43 schreef KareldeStoute het volgende:

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Er is een oorlog gaande en er wordt met geweld gebied ingenomen en gezuiverd. Nogal logisch dat het niet zomaar ophoudt...

Azerbaijanen waren nu veel beter dan de Armeni�rs 30 jaar geleden.

Nu waren 90.000 van de 150.000 Armeni�rs gevlucht. En alle Armeni�rs mogen terugkeren naar Nagorno-Karabakh.

27 jaar geleden waren alle 800.000 Azerbeidzjanen verjaagd. Azerbeidzjanen mochten helemaal niet terugkeren naar hun huizen.

Azerbeidzjan had heel Karabakh kunnen veroveren. Dit heeft de Armeense premier ook aangegeven. Azerbeidzjan heeft dit niet gedaan.

Lavrov: Turkey's peacekeeping troops won't enter Nagorno-Karabakh

https://bianet.org/englis(...)ter-nagorno-karabakh

Erdogan geeft geen moer om wat Lavrov zegt. Turkse soldaten betreden Qarabag:


Turkish army onderweg naar Qarabag:


Lavrov is van Armeens/Russische afkomst. Zijn vader was een Armeni�r uit Tbilisi.

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergej_Lavrov

Als jij zo durft te spreken tegen de Russen dan zeg ik Turken hebben ballen. Die kun je alleen met een kraan takelen.

Armeense soldaten zijn opgelucht dat de oorlog voorbij is.

"Als de oorlog door was gegaan, zouden we allemaal zijn gedood"

En Armeense demonstranten eisen dat de oorlog doorgaat.

wat kinderachtig
godverdomme

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Op donderdag 12 november 2020 23:08 schreef bakuazeriya het volgende:
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Lavrov: Turkey's peacekeeping troops won't enter Nagorno-Karabakh

https://bianet.org/englis(...)ter-nagorno-karabakh

Erdogan geeft geen moer om wat Lavrov zegt. Turkse soldaten betreden Qarabag:

Şanlı Türk Askeri Karabağ'da görüldü

Turkish army onderweg naar Qarabag:

Türk Askeri Qarabağ'a Gidiyor.. Qarabağ'da Güvenliği Türk Askeri Sağlayacak.

Lavrov is van Armeens/Russische afkomst. Zijn vader was een Armeni�r uit Tbilisi.

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergej_Lavrov

Dat had ik niet zien aankomen. Erdogan probeert het al te laten escaleren blijkbaar voordat de Russen er voet aan de grond hebben gezet. Het lijkt bijna of hij...geen belang heeft bij rust in die regio.

Protesterende Armeni�rs in Yerevan vs Armeni�rs aan het front:


Protesterende Armeni�r in Yerevan


Armeense soldaat aan het front:

Goede tweet reeks

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Op vrijdag 13 november 2020 11:22 schreef polderturk het volgende:
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Protesterende Armeni�rs in Yerevan vs Armeni�rs aan het front:

Protesterende Armeni�r in Yerevan
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Armeense soldaat aan het front:

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De twetreeks die ik zojuist bheb geplaatst geeft enige inzichten waarom ze in Erivan volledig dellusional zijn

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Op vrijdag 13 november 2020 11:22 schreef polderturk het volgende:
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Protesterende Armeni�rs in Yerevan vs Armeni�rs aan het front:


Protesterende Armeni�r in Yerevan
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Armeense soldaat aan het front:

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De mensen thuis hebben de grootste mond. Ze zouden hen eens naar het front moeten sturenl

The Karabakh agreement will give not a future but a war in the future - Vardan Voskanyan

"All of us are persuaded that the Karabakh armistice will give us a future. That is not the case, as the deal will give us a war in the future but not a future," member of Homeland party, expert in Iranian studies Vardan Voskanyan stated during the opposition rally at Liberty Square in Yerevan.

In his words, the treacherous provisions of the agremeent imply a war.

"The road stretching from Nakhijevan to the so-called Azerbaijan will be the beginning of the collapse of our country, as it would cut one of the vital veins of our homeland, the border with Iran. Turks are expected to cross through that road. We all should reject this treacherous document, and the person who signed it should not have a future in our country," Voskanyan said.

The speaker added that everyone standing at the square did their utmost for the victory, yet the signature put on the document imposed a disgraceful defeat upon all.

"We have one common goal, a national goal, to get the maximum out of that shameful document and that is possible," Voskanyan said.

https://www.panorama.am/e(...)cs2DvjkXx_rSYiLSLK7Y

Pashinyan's weakness to cost Armenia $50 billion in compensation to Azerbaijan



By signing the trilateral agreement, Armenia not only lost territory but also pledged to pay more than $50 billion in compensation, Armenian Prosecutor General Gevork Kostanyan said.

"Future generations will also have to pay this compensation. If we do not provide a legal response in time, the shameful document signed by Nikol Pashinyan will lead to serious financial problems for us and for future generations," News.am cited him as saying.

On November 9, Russian President Vladimir Putin, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev and Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan signed a joint statement on a complete ceasefire in Nagorno-Karabakh. The Russian leader said the Azerbaijani and Armenian sides would remain on the positions they hold and Russian peacekeepers would be deployed to the region. Besides, Armenia and Azerbaijan should carry out the exchange of prisoners of war and the bodies of those killed. Aghdam region will be returned to Azerbaijan before November 20, Kelbajar region - before November 15, Lachin region - before December 1.

https://vestnikkavkaza.ne(...)n-to-Azerbaijan.html

Armenen verbranden elke mogelijk huis in Qarabag voordat ze vertrekken:

Groene gedeelte wordt zo meteen overhandigt aan Azerbaijan zoals afgesproken:

Putin tells Azerbaijan to take care of Christian shrines in Nagorno-Karabakh



MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia’s President Vladimir Putin told his Azeri counterpart Ilham Aliyev on Saturday to take care of Christian shrines in parts of Nagorno-Karabakh that Azerbaijan gets under this week’s ceasefire agreement, the Kremlin said.

Russia brokered a ceasefire on Tuesday that secured territorial advances for Azerbaijan around the ethnic Armenian region, where Azeri troops have been battling ethnic Armenian forces over the past six weeks.

Putin told Aliyev there were Christian churches and monasteries in areas of the enclave, internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan but populated by ethnic Armenians, that Azerbaijan obtains under the ceasefire deal.

“In this respect, he (Putin) underscored the importance of securing safety and normal church life of these shrines,” the Kremlin said.

Aliyev said that was how Azerbaijan will act, according to the Kremlin.

The main religion in Azerbaijan is Islam.

https://www.reuters.com/a(...)rabakh-idUSKBN27U0OF

Zelf vernietigde hij rustig moskee�n in Syri�:

Russian jets destroy mosque in Idlib southern countryside

https://orient-news.net/e(...)southern-countryside

Russian airstrikes target mosques in Syria

https://eu.usatoday.com/s(...)ques-syria/80248060/

800 Pro-Turkish got Killed in Nagorno-Karabakh Conflicts



Today, Armenia announced that more than 2,300 of its soldiers had been killed in Nagorno-Karabakh conflicts, which ended with the signing of a peace agreement.

The spokesperson for the Armenian Ministry of Health, Alina Nikogossian, said: “Till now, the forensic service received the bodies of 2,317 soldiers, some of them have not been identified.”

Nikogossian continued: the process of exchanging bodies with Azerbaijan just started, noting that “the warring parties do not yet have final numbers.”

On the other hand, Azerbaijan did not reveal the human losses among its forces, only announcing the death of 93 civilians.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) reported that 789 pro-Turkish groups had been killed in Karabakh battles.

SOHR confirmed, in a report, that the mercenaries sent by Turkey to Libya reached 18,000, according to Al-Arabiya website.

SOHR revealed that the number of Syrian mercenaries sent to Karabakh exceeded thousands, indicating that each of them received a monthly salary of $2000.

At the weekend, Armenia and Azerbaijan signed, under Russian auspices, a ceasefire agreement to end the war.

The agreement confirms the gains made by the Azerbaijani forces and provides additional areas to Baku.

The announcement of the agreement, sparked demonstrations in Armenia, as protesters demanded the resignation of Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan.

https://see.news/800-pro-(...)-karabakh-conflicts/

Moordaanslag op Armeense premier verijdeld.

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Op zaterdag 14 november 2020 22:20 schreef polderturk het volgende:
Moordaanslag op Armeense premier verijdeld.

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Bezet een gebied 30 jaar geleden door 800.000 mensen etnisch te zuiveren op gruwelijke wijze, verlies 30 jaar later oorlog over het gebied dat je onterecht bezet, en vervolgens huilen en je president vermoorden omdat hij doden wil voorkomen in verloren oorlog. Armenen zo lievv..

Aliyev zet haar even op der plek

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Op zaterdag 14 november 2020 23:57 schreef Nederturk het volgende:
Aliyev zet haar even op der plek

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Ze verandert gelijk van onderwerp. Althans dat probeert ze.

Aantal Armeense dode soldaten groeit naar 4750.

https://hyetert.org/2020/(...)to-armenian-premier/

Armeni�rs graven hun dierbaren op en nemen ze mee naar Azerbeidzjan.

Het beste artikel tot nu toe.

https://nationalinterest.(...)ar-azerbaijan-172583

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Op zaterdag 14 november 2020 21:19 schreef bakuazeriya het volgende:
Putin tells Azerbaijan to take care of Christian shrines in Nagorno-Karabakh

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MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia’s President Vladimir Putin told his Azeri counterpart Ilham Aliyev on Saturday to take care of Christian shrines in parts of Nagorno-Karabakh that Azerbaijan gets under this week’s ceasefire agreement, the Kremlin said.

Russia brokered a ceasefire on Tuesday that secured territorial advances for Azerbaijan around the ethnic Armenian region, where Azeri troops have been battling ethnic Armenian forces over the past six weeks.

Putin told Aliyev there were Christian churches and monasteries in areas of the enclave, internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan but populated by ethnic Armenians, that Azerbaijan obtains under the ceasefire deal.

“In this respect, he (Putin) underscored the importance of securing safety and normal church life of these shrines,” the Kremlin said.

Aliyev said that was how Azerbaijan will act, according to the Kremlin.

The main religion in Azerbaijan is Islam.

https://www.reuters.com/a(...)rabakh-idUSKBN27U0OF

Dus de azeris moeten niet de kerken ombouwen tot een varkensstal zoals de Armeni�rs hebben gedaan met de moskee�n?

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Op zaterdag 14 november 2020 21:22 schreef bakuazeriya het volgende:
Zelf vernietigde hij rustig moskee�n in Syri�:

Russian jets destroy mosque in Idlib southern countryside

https://orient-news.net/e(...)southern-countryside

Russian airstrikes target mosques in Syria

https://eu.usatoday.com/s(...)ques-syria/80248060/

Syri� topic is verderop

Why was such an unfavorable document signed for Armenia? It happened in the conditions when the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Armenia kept reporting that every minute mattered, and the war had to be stopped as soon as possible. And the President of Artsakh warned that if the hostilities failed to stop, we could lose Stepanakert in a couple of days, and under some scenarios, even within a few hours.

Many can say that if we had already lost Hadrut, Shushi, we could have lost Stepanakert as well, and not much would change. The reality, however, is a little different, because if we had lost Stepanakert, which as Artsakh President Arayik Harutyunyan already confirmed in his public remarks, was by and large defenseless at that time, then Askeran and Martakert would have been predictably and inevitably lost just because these cities were in the rear at the time the war started as they were located far enough from the front line and lacked defensive structures and fortifications. Nor were there so many fighting forces that could actually defend these cities.



And what would happen after the fall of these cities? The second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh defenses of the Defense Army would be under siege by the enemy, which means that more than 20,000 Armenian troops and officers could find themselves surrounded by enemy troops, inevitably facing the prospect of being killed or captured. Under these conditions, of course, the fall of Karvachar and Kashatagh regions would be inevitable, leading to a complete catastrophe.”


https://republic-undergro(...)nd-leave-azerbaijan/

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Op zondag 15 november 2020 10:46 schreef polderturk het volgende:
Het beste artikel tot nu toe.

https://nationalinterest.(...)ar-azerbaijan-172583

Heel goed overview van de hele situatie. Daarnaast FFS zitten de Armeni�rs al een eeuw te fappen op een dood koloniaal document S�vres?

En die president noemt dat document in 1 adem met hoe de koloniale mogendheden vhet midden Oosten naar hun smaak hebben opgeknipt, alsof dat het MO zo veel goeds heeft gebracht

Dit gesprek is recentelijk gelekt. Armeni� had nog maar 2 Grads en 10 howitzers. Ze wilden Azerbeidzjan en Rusland om 10 dagen vragen om te kunnen vertrekken.

Hij geeft ook toe dat Rusland hun de gebieden in Azerbeidzjan gegeven heeft.

Rusland had ook de hele Azerbeidzjaanse Syunik provincie aan Armeni� gegeven.



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Azerbeidzjan heeft de Armeni�rs 10 dagen extra de tijd gegeven. En dan doen ze dit. In de jaren '90 kregen de Azerbeidzjanen vaak maar 10 uur om te vertrekken.

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Op zondag 15 november 2020 17:55 schreef polderturk het volgende:
Azerbeidzjan heeft de Armeni�rs 10 dagen extra de tijd gegeven. En dan doen ze dit. In de jaren '90 kregen de Azerbeidzjanen vaak maar 10 uur om te vertrekken.

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Na mij de zondvloed.