Het grote COVID-19 topic. #53 In China we trust

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 17:04 schreef THEFXR het volgende:
Cruise Ship Evacuees Landing At Travis Air Force Base Test Positive For Coronavirus

https://sanfrancisco.cbsl(...)virus-test-positive/

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 18:21 schreef THEFXR het volgende:
4. here, like wow , I didn't know this at all: most of them small bottle of health drinks (vitamin drinks) those ingredients come from China (my fellow American's, you remember when Congress passed the bill: not necessary for place of manufacture, just as long as it says "PACKAGED IN AMERICA" Now honestly folks, you think your politicians have your best interest in your health now. Lets see if they ban that crap, all that crap

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 18:21 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 18:21 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 18:57 schreef Lonaa het volgende:

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Als je iets post, willen we daar graag een bron bij. En dan een fatsoenlijke als het ff kan.

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 19:10 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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update geschreven door een forumlid, soort van survival guide en een samenvatting in een.
bron:http://www.abovetopsecret(...)613/pg92#pid24953392
mocht dit niet in nws horen, dan haal ik het weg

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 19:12 schreef Lonaa het volgende:

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Ik vind de website wel heel erg BNW. Dus misschien beter niet meer? Je weet dat er ook een topic in BNW loopt, over het coronavirus?

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 19:15 schreef Pizzakoppo het volgende:

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Above top secret is zeg maar de opper BNW website.

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 19:15 schreef Pizzakoppo het volgende:

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Above top secret is zeg maar de opper BNW website.

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 17:24 schreef Nadelspiel het volgende:
Het nieuws over de besmetting kwam volgens de ministeries binnen toen de ongeveer 300 Amerikaanse cruisegangers al in het vliegtuig zaten dat hen naar de Verenigde Staten moest brengen. "Daarop werd besloten de veertien personen af te zonderen in een speciaal daarvoor ingerichte ruimte in het vliegtuig. Ze zullen geïsoleerd blijven tijdens deze en andere vluchten'', luidt het.

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askimono twitterde op zondag 02-02-2020 om 22:16:18 Er is ook militair NL personeel en arts aanwezig die regels uitleggen: ‘Wij hanteren common sense en lopen hier op advies van onze experts niet in van die pakken.’ Maar mocht iem klachten hebben dan doen ze wel bril op etc. #hollandsenuchterheid reageer retweet

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 16:43 schreef joyvke het volgende:
WHO updates
- We got more information in regards of the outbreak. 44000 confirmed cases (paper) from China. Gives us a better range affected, mortality rate. Evidence based, we encourage all countries to share

Decline in new cases. This trend must be interpretad cautiously. Too early too tell if this decline will continue. Every scenario still on table. It's not as deadly as SARS / MERS, more than 80% have mild disease and will recover, in about 14% severe like pneumona, others acute respitory failure, organ failue, sceptic shock, in 2% the virus is fatal. The risk increases the older you are. Little cases among childeren, more research needed to see why.

WHO is continueing to work night and day to prepare countries, sending testing kits around the world. Personal protection being send, working with manufactureres to supply. We are providing advice in terms of screening and treatment. We have a window of oppertunity now, to ensure countries are prepared. We don't know how long this window will stay open.

Waarschijnlijk wat gemist, hij praatte nogal snel.

Vragen:
- Would it be safe for us journalists to call it a pandemic
"We need to be cautious to use the word pandemic. The real issue here is whether we're seeing communication outside of China, at the same time we're not seeing this. The majority of cases outside of China still have links to China. The majority can be traced back. We have to be very careful try to not get fear in the world. Cautious with the words we use. Risk is high in China.
"I think you are right. We need more evidence and data, we need to be cautious as it can create panic - uneccesarily. We need to tackle the virus the same way.

- A joint team of Chinese and WHO, up till now any updates on the latest of findings and next steps?
"Yes the team has had a serious of face to face meetings with Chinese counterparts, it's excellent to see such immenent with experts working side to side. Agreeing what the best way is of informtation we don't know. We reflect on the fact that's its a collab between the international community.

- A WHO advisor mentioned that 2/3 could be infected, what is your comment on this estimate?
"WHO works with many people around the world and people can express unlikely scenarios. All of that is important (talking about R0), we dealt with this previously, as we had the same predictions from other scientitsts. Predictions are important, but they are wrong".

- Today some Chinese are asked to donate plasma, the recovered, do you think this is a good option?
"The use of convulescent has been partial to treatment, we have seen it in different cases. Including lifethreathening. ITs a very important area to persue. We will need to look at how it's used and which patient is benefitting most from it. IT concentrates the antibodies, you give people a boost of antibodies to get them through the vital phase. It has to be carefully times and is not always succesful. They're starting trials in China.
"Just to add is that the protocal is important, with blood products you can also transmit other disease. How many patients can get this therapy, it's not easy to produce, all needs to be carefully asseses before using it widely"

- Speakers of any doubts of the testings, total cases where people were multiple times tested negative
"no diagnostic test is foolproof. Especially when tests are new, there's always a chance of a small positive or false negative, where they're told they have the virus when they don't and when they don't have the virus where they do, that's why clinicial diagnosis is important. We ask countries to share their first 100 tests, we rely on common sense, no test is foolproof.

- There are reports roughly 100 people are infected on the Diamond Princess. I'd like this in French by doctor Briand.
"On this issue its very difficult to make sure the infection prevention is difficult to implement to (...) ik kon het niet meer bijhouden. We have to contain the virus, not contain the people. We need to have balance and its currently quite difficult alot is still unknown about this virus. We learn every day and every hour more on this.

Ik moet weg, maar de livestream gaat nog door .

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 19:32 schreef Coeus het volgende:

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Heb je dit uitgetypt tijdens de persconferentie? Respect! En dankjewel

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 19:32 schreef Coeus het volgende:

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Heb je dit uitgetypt tijdens de persconferentie? Respect! En dankjewel

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 16:43 schreef joyvke het volgende:
WHO updates
- We got more information in regards of the outbreak. 44000 confirmed cases (paper) from China. Gives us a better range affected, mortality rate. Evidence based, we encourage all countries to share

Decline in new cases. This trend must be interpretad cautiously. Too early too tell if this decline will continue. Every scenario still on table. It's not as deadly as SARS / MERS, more than 80% have mild disease and will recover, in about 14% severe like pneumona, others acute respitory failure, organ failue, sceptic shock, in 2% the virus is fatal. The risk increases the older you are. Little cases among childeren, more research needed to see why.

WHO is continueing to work night and day to prepare countries, sending testing kits around the world. Personal protection being send, working with manufactureres to supply. We are providing advice in terms of screening and treatment. We have a window of oppertunity now, to ensure countries are prepared. We don't know how long this window will stay open.

Waarschijnlijk wat gemist, hij praatte nogal snel.

Vragen:
- Would it be safe for us journalists to call it a pandemic
"We need to be cautious to use the word pandemic. The real issue here is whether we're seeing communication outside of China, at the same time we're not seeing this. The majority of cases outside of China still have links to China. The majority can be traced back. We have to be very careful try to not get fear in the world. Cautious with the words we use. Risk is high in China.
"I think you are right. We need more evidence and data, we need to be cautious as it can create panic - uneccesarily. We need to tackle the virus the same way.

- A joint team of Chinese and WHO, up till now any updates on the latest of findings and next steps?
"Yes the team has had a serious of face to face meetings with Chinese counterparts, it's excellent to see such immenent with experts working side to side. Agreeing what the best way is of informtation we don't know. We reflect on the fact that's its a collab between the international community.

- A WHO advisor mentioned that 2/3 could be infected, what is your comment on this estimate?
"WHO works with many people around the world and people can express unlikely scenarios. All of that is important (talking about R0), we dealt with this previously, as we had the same predictions from other scientitsts. Predictions are important, but they are wrong".

- Today some Chinese are asked to donate plasma, the recovered, do you think this is a good option?
"The use of convulescent has been partial to treatment, we have seen it in different cases. Including lifethreathening. ITs a very important area to persue. We will need to look at how it's used and which patient is benefitting most from it. IT concentrates the antibodies, you give people a boost of antibodies to get them through the vital phase. It has to be carefully times and is not always succesful. They're starting trials in China.
"Just to add is that the protocal is important, with blood products you can also transmit other disease. How many patients can get this therapy, it's not easy to produce, all needs to be carefully asseses before using it widely"

- Speakers of any doubts of the testings, total cases where people were multiple times tested negative
"no diagnostic test is foolproof. Especially when tests are new, there's always a chance of a small positive or false negative, where they're told they have the virus when they don't and when they don't have the virus where they do, that's why clinicial diagnosis is important. We ask countries to share their first 100 tests, we rely on common sense, no test is foolproof.

- There are reports roughly 100 people are infected on the Diamond Princess. I'd like this in French by doctor Briand.
"On this issue its very difficult to make sure the infection prevention is difficult to implement to (...) ik kon het niet meer bijhouden. We have to contain the virus, not contain the people. We need to have balance and its currently quite difficult alot is still unknown about this virus. We learn every day and every hour more on this.

Ik moet weg, maar de livestream gaat nog door .

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 19:25 schreef van_Lamehuizen het volgende:

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Doen ze gewoon voor de grap die Amerikanen, gelukkig reageert men hier in Nederland niet zo overspannen. #hollandsenuchterheid

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askimono twitterde op zondag 02-02-2020 om 22:16:18 Er is ook militair NL personeel en arts aanwezig die regels uitleggen: ‘Wij hanteren common sense en lopen hier op advies van onze experts niet in van die pakken.’ Maar mocht iem klachten hebben dan doen ze wel bril op etc. #hollandsenuchterheid reageer retweet

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Op maandag 17 februari 2020 19:32 schreef Coeus het volgende:

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Heb je dit uitgetypt tijdens de persconferentie? Respect! En dankjewel