Mysterieuze melding van klokkenluider houdt Washington bezig

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Op dinsdag 1 oktober 2019 10:18 schreef EchteLiberaal het volgende:

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Nee gewoon lezen en luisteren en het was toch echt Mueller die letterlijk zei dat zijn rapport Trump niet vrijpleit, dat het in jouw bizarre realiteit anders lijkt te zijn zegt meer over jou.

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Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 08:16 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 08:16 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 08:21 schreef ..-._---_-.- het volgende:

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In dezelfde samenvatting van Barr staat ook dit:
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Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 08:49 schreef EchteLiberaal het volgende:

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Quote je nu serieus de samenvatting van Barr?

Wat een grap weer, typisch dat je een screenprintje gebruikt i.p.v. de echte bron ook trouwens.

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Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 08:46 schreef EdvandeBerg het volgende:

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Zelfs dat stukje over ‘despite multiple offers’ is volgens mij BS. Welke aanbiedingen bedoelen ze dan? Het door Fusion GPS opgezette toneelstukje in de Trump Tower? Of de door de Amerikaanse inlichtingendiensten ingehuurde Mifsud en Downer die Papadapoulos in de val moesten lokken?

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Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 09:01 schreef ..-._---_-.- het volgende:

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Dat is het punt helemaal niet.

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Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 08:46 schreef EdvandeBerg het volgende:

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Zelfs dat stukje over ‘despite multiple offers’ is volgens mij BS. Welke aanbiedingen bedoelen ze dan? Het door Fusion GPS opgezette toneelstukje in de Trump Tower? Of de door de Amerikaanse inlichtingendiensten ingehuurde Mifsud en Downer die Papadapoulos in de val moesten lokken?

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Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 09:04 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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Het punt is no collusion en no conspiracy.
Het punt is ook innocent until proven guilty ongeacht welke looney spin je aan de grondconclusies van het Mueller-rapport wil geven.

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Myth: Mueller found “no collusion.”

Response: Mueller spent almost 200 pages describing “numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign.” He found that “a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.” He also found that “a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations” against the Clinton campaign and then released stolen documents.

While Mueller was unable to establish a conspiracy between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians involved in this activity, he made it clear that “[a] statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts.” In fact, Mueller also wrote that the “investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.”

To find conspiracy, a prosecutor must establish beyond a reasonable doubt the elements of the crime: an agreement between at least two people, to commit a criminal offense and an overt act in furtherance of that agreement. One of the underlying criminal offenses that Mueller reviewed for conspiracy was campaign-finance violations. Mueller found that Trump campaign members Donald Trump Jr., Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner met with Russian nationals in Trump Tower in New York June 2016 for the purpose of receiving disparaging information about Clinton as part of “Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump,” according to an email message arranging the meeting. This meeting did not amount to a criminal offense, in part, because Mueller was unable to establish “willfulness,” that is, that the participants knew that their conduct was illegal. Mueller was also unable to conclude that the information was a “thing of value” that exceeded $25,000, the requirement for campaign finance to be a felony, as opposed to a civil violation of law. But the fact that the conduct did not technically amount to conspiracy does not mean that it was acceptable. Trump campaign members welcomed foreign influence into our election and then compromised themselves with the Russian government by covering it up.

Mueller found other contacts with Russia, such as the sharing of polling data about Midwestern states where Trump later won upset victories, conversations with the Russian ambassador to influence Russia’s response to sanctions imposed by the U.S. government in response to election interference, and communications with Wikileaks after it had received emails stolen by Russia. While none of these acts amounted to the crime of conspiracy, all could be described as “collusion.”

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Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 09:12 schreef ..-._---_-.- het volgende:

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Nee, het punt is dat jij bestrijdt dat het rapport Trump niet vrijpleit, terwijl dat letterlijk terug te lezen is. Dat heeft niet zo veel met het juridische 'innocent until proven guilty' te maken. Althans, het sluit elkaar niet uit.

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Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 08:52 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:

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Dat doet dellipder altijd. Zo krijgt hij de plaatjes namelijk aangeleverd op reddit, dat linkt hij dan hier meteen door, inclusief irritant half-engels spraakgebruik.

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Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 09:22 schreef ..-._---_-.- het volgende:

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Hoe het juridische oordeel gaat uitvallen weet niemand, want dat moet nog komen.

Maar de bewering dat het rapport Trump niet vrijpleit is gewoon waar. Een feit. Ik snap niet dat je daar zo moeilijk over doet.

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Letter From Australian Official Emerges That Casts Doubt On Report From New York Times

A letter emerged late on Monday from the Australian government that directly disputed the accuracy of a New York Times report that claimed that President Donald Trump “pushed” Australia to help Attorney General William Barr investigate the origins of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation in an attempt to “discredit” the investigation in what The Times claimed was an example of Trump “using high-level diplomacy to advance his personal political interests.”

The letter, reported by Nine News Australia’s Kerrie Yaxley, is dated May 28, 2019, from Australian Ambassador Joe Hockey to Barr, and states:

Dear Attorney General,

I refer to President Trump’s announcement on 24 May that you will investigate the origins of the Federal Bureau of Investigations probe into Russian links to the 2016 US election.

I note that the President referred to Australia, the United Kingdom and the Ukraine as potential stakeholders. Moreover, I note that he has declassified intelligence material to support your investigation.

The Australian Government will use its best endeavors to support your efforts in this matter. While Australia’s former High Commissioner to the United Kingdom, The Hon. Alexander Downer, is no longer employed by the government, we stand ready to provide you with all the relevant information to support your inquiries.

The Acting White House Chief of Staff, The Honorable Michael Mulvaney, has been copied on this letter.

Yours sincerely,

The Hon Joe Hockey

The development comes after The New York Times tried to suggest that it was a scandal for Trump to ask for Australia to cooperate with an ongoing Department of Justice (DOJ) into the origins of the Russia investigation.

Shortly after The Times’ report was published, a source at the DOJ pushed back on it, telling Fox News: “The countries have been helpful. There was no pressing required.”

“The president was letting the heads of other countries know that the attorney general would be contacting the appropriate law enforcement entities in each country, according to the DOJ official. When Barr was in Italy last week, he did talk to law enforcement officials there about Durham’s review, Fox News was told,” the network added. “The DOJ official also stressed that this has been a routine procedure in diplomacy and that Barr would not usually reach out to his direct counterpart in another country unilaterally. Instead, usually there would be an introduction of sorts made at the head-of-state level.”

The flood of new information surrounding the DOJ’s investigation included new reporting from The Washington Post, which sought to cast Barr in a negative light for conducting his job, claiming that he was trying to help Trump “discredit” Mueller’s investigation.

“Barr’s personal involvement is likely to stoke further criticism from Democrats pursuing impeachment that he is helping the Trump administration use executive branch powers to augment investigations aimed primarily at the president’s adversaries,” the Post reported. “But the high level Justice Department focus on intelligence operatives’ conduct will likely cheer Trump and other conservatives for whom ‘investigate the investigators’ has become a rallying cry. Barr has voiced his own concerns, telling lawmakers in April that he believed ‘spying did occur’ when it came to the U.S. investigation of the Trump campaign.”

The new and relevant information from the Post’s report was the revelation that Barr has been in contact with British intelligence officials and has traveled to Italy as a part of the ongoing investigation.

“Barr has already made overtures to British intelligence officials, and last week the attorney general traveled to Italy, where he and Durham met senior Italian government officials and Barr asked the Italians to assist Durham, according to one person familiar with the matter,” the Post added. “It was not Barr’s first trip to Italy to meet intelligence officials, the person said. The Trump administration has made similar requests of Australia, these people said.”

In May, Trump said of Barr: “And I hope he looks at the U.K., and I hope he looks at Australia, and I hope he looks at Ukraine. I hope he looks at everything because there was a hoax that was perpetrated on our country.”

The DOJ responded to recent news reports with the following: “A Department of Justice team led by U.S. Attorney John Durham is separately exploring the extent to which a number of countries, including Ukraine, played a role in the counterintelligence investigation directed at the Trump campaign during the 2016 election. While the Attorney General has yet to contact Ukraine in connection with this investigation, certain Ukrainians who are not members of the government have volunteered information to Mr. Durham, which he is evaluating.”

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Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 16:39 schreef EdvandeBerg het volgende:
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NYT heeft weer eens gejokt. Australische overheid werkt mee aan het onderzoek naar de oorzaak van het complot en Trump hoefde niks af te dwingen.

Verder liegt de media over het onthouden van militaire hulp, dat wist de Oekrainse president op het moment van het bewuste gesprek nog helemaal niet.

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Controversy about the conversations in 2016 has been revived courtesy of Donald Trump’s appeal to Scott Morrison for Australia’s assistance in an investigation aimed at discrediting the Mueller inquiry.

The New York Times revealed on Tuesday that Trump made the call to Morrison shortly before the Australian prime minister departed for a visit to America last week.

After the call was made public by the Times, Morrison’s office confirmed it. The conversation between the two leaders was, according to a government source, a “polite request” from Trump to cooperate with an investigation being spearheaded by the US attorney general, William Barr.

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9/9/19, 12:47:11AM] Bill
Taylor: As I said on the phone, I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance
for help with a political campaign.

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[9/9/19, 5:19:35AM] Gordon Sondland: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear: no quid pro quo’s of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelenskypromised during his campaign. I suggest we stop the back and forth by text. If you still have concerns, Irecommend you give Lisa Kenna or S a call to discuss them directly. Thanks

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Giuliani claims Ukrainian company paid Joe Biden $900,000 in lobbying fees

Rudy Giuliani has alleged that a Ukrainian natural-gas company that employed Joe Biden’s son Hunter also paid the former vice president $900,000 in lobbying fees.

Appearing on Fox News’ “Hannity” Wednesday, President Trump’s personal lawyer cited as evidence claims made by Andriy Derkach, a member of Ukraine’s parliament.

“Biden, his son and his brother had a 30-year-long scam to make money, millions, selling his public office,” Giuliani told host Sean Hannity.

Derkach held a press conference earlier Wednesday in Kyiv where he claimed to have documents showing how Burisma Holdings paid Joe Biden the lobbying fees.

Hunter Biden worked for Burisma while his father served as vice president and acted as the point man on US effort to stamp out corruption in Ukraine. Hunter was paid $50,000 a month.

“Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the US-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners,” Derkach told reporters, referring to the investment company the younger Biden founded with Chris Heinz, the stepson of former Secretary of State John Kerry.

“The payment reference was payment for consultative services,” Derkach said, according to Interfax, a Russian news agency.

He went on to claim Burisma — according to documents — paid $16.5 million to former Polish President Aleksander Kwasnieski, who was chair of Burisma’s board, Hunter Biden and Devon Archer.

Archer, a partner in Rosemont Seneca, joined the Burisma board months before Hunter Biden did in 2014.

Their joining Burisma led to a falling out with Heinz, who eventually ended his business relationship with them.

Derkach claimed Joe Biden pressured Ukraine in December 2015 to force the resignation of Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin and dangled $1 billion in loan guarantees as an incentive.

Prosecutors have found no evidence that either Biden did anything wrong, and Giuliani did not respond to requests for comment about details of the alleged documents.

Joe Biden’s presidential campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

Trump and his allies, including Giuliani and Republican members of Congress, have alleged that Joe Biden sought to have Shokin fired because Shokin was investigating Burisma.

Asked about the documents on “Fox & Friends” Thursday, Trump campaign spokeswoman Kayliegh McEnany said she hadn’t seen them.

“We don’t know that it’s true yet. We know of the allegation,” she said.

Trump in a July 25 phone call asked Zelensky to launch an investigation into the Bidens.

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Burisma paid Joe Biden $900,000 for lobbying – Ukrainian MP

KYIV. Oct 9 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.

Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, "describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr." at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine's press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.

"This was the transfer of Burisma Group's funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, personally to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was payment for consultative services," Derkach said.

He also publicized sums that were transferred to Burisma Group representatives, in particular Hunter Biden, a son of the former U.S. vice president.

"According to the documents, Burisma paid no less than $16.5 million to [former Polish President, who became an independent director at Burisma Holdings in 2014] Aleksander Kwasniewski, [chairman of the Burisma board of independent directors] Alan Apter, [Burisma independent director] Devon Archer and Hunter Biden [who joined the Burisma board of directors in 2014]," Derkach said.

"Using political and economic levelers of influencing Ukrainian authorities and manipulating the issue of providing financial aid to Ukraine, Joe Biden actively assisted closing criminal cases into the activity of former Ukrainian Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky, who is the founder and owner of Burisma Group," he said.

"Biden's fifth visit to Kyiv on December 7-8, 2015 was devoted to making a decision on the resignation of [then Ukrainian Prosecutor General] Viktor Shokin over the case of Zlochevsky and Burisma. Loan guarantees worth $1 billion that the United States was to give to Ukraine was the point of pressure. Biden himself admitted exerting pressure in his speech at the Council of Foreign Relations in January 2018, calling Shokin 'son of a bitch who was fired'," Derkach said.

The timeline of events proves that the U.S. linked the Zlochevsky case to loan guarantees, he said.

After the decree dismissing Shokin was published on April 3, 2016, the governments of the United States and Ukraine signed a loan guarantee agreement worth $1 billion, several months later, on June 3, he said.

"In this case, there are facts should be subject to investigation. There is an agency that has powers to investigate them; the U.S. Department of Justice. If the Ukrainian Prosecutor General signs documents and send them to U.S. Department of Justice without any requests, he will accomplish his mission," he said, adding that the Ukrainian Prosecutor General has such powers.

"Considering international corruption in public is a way-out for President Zelensky. I am certain that he is not involved in international corruption," Derkach said.

It was reported earlier that Derkach publicized correspondence between the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) and officers of the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv. According to publicized correspondence, starting from July 14, 2017, the lists of criminal proceedings undertaken by NABU officers were sent from the electronic mailbox of Polina Chyzh, an assistant to NABU first deputy head Gizo Uglava, to the electronic mailbox of Hanna Yemelianova, a legal specialist of the anti-corruption program of the U.S. Justice Department at U.S. Embassy in Ukraine.

Derkach also said that NABU-leak materials will be published on his Facebook account and materials that he got from investigating journalists have already been passed to Ukraine's State Bureau of Investigations and the Prosecutor's General Office.

He also said he will initiate the creation of an ad hoc parliamentary investigative commission and has already requested launching a criminal case against Ukrainian officials into interference into U.S. elections. The court session is scheduled for October 21, he said.

Burisma Holdings is a Cyprus-registered gas producing company holding assets in Ukraine. It is one of Ukraine's top-three independent gas producers headquartered in Kyiv. Zlochevsky is the founder and the ultimate beneficiary owner of the company.