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Argument by YouTube is no argument.quote:Op donderdag 30 mei 2019 22:41 schreef controlaltdelete het volgende:
Ik zou er best eens naar toe willen al staat het niet hoog op mijn verlanglijst verder zou ik me niet zo druk maken over radiation, is inmiddels een toeristische attractie geworden.
Kanaal praat ook over platte aarde en is dus voor ultieme gekkies.
Het antwoord op de belangrijkste vraag van alle vragen? 42!
Niet zo druk maken over radiation?quote:
Ik zou er best eens naar toe willen al staat het niet hoog op mijn verlanglijst verder zou ik me niet zo druk maken over radiation, is inmiddels een toeristische attractie geworden.
Denk dat de Chernobyl liquidators daar wel wat anders over dachten. En er zijn wel meer voorbeelden van mensen die een te hoge stralingsdosis niet na konden vertellen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/(...)idents_and_incidents
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
In principe wel een sure-fire way om overal een complot in te vinden - gewoon "hoax" erachter zetten en op YouTube zoeken. Altijd wel een downie die het met je eens is.quote:
Ik zou er best eens naar toe willen al staat het niet hoog op mijn verlanglijst verder zou ik me niet zo druk maken over radiation, is inmiddels een toeristische attractie geworden.
Nee joh, straling is fijn en niet schadelijk. Maar ik ga nu even de was opvouwen dus ik ben er weer vandoor!!!!quote:
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Niet zo druk maken over radiation?
En er zijn wel meer voorbeelden van mensen die een te hoge stralingsdosis niet na konden vertellen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/(...)idents_and_incidents
Wat ik me afvraag, als je niet gelooft in de atoombom, kernenergie en straling. Geloof je dan ook niet dat chemotherapie helpt bij mensen met kanker? En als je niet gelooft dat straling schadelijk is, waarom maak je dan wel weer druk over 5G enzo?
vragen, vragen, vragen...
vragen, vragen, vragen...
Waarom? Haha, je kan zeker geen verder info over 'low background steel' vinden dus nu wil je over MIJNE meningen weer beginnen. Paar weken terug hebben we alleen maar afleidende gezeik over meningen en feiten van je gehoord. Not to mention the idiotic cliché : 'Dat is mening, geen feit'.quote:
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Ik vraag naar hoe JIJ dit ziet... Wat voor verklaring JIJ hier realistisch ziet.
Ik wil graag meer info over de low background steel claims zien - maar jij en je cohorts weten dondersgoed dat er helemaal niks meer over te vinden is.
You should be asking yourself why there isn't any basic information to be found rather than asking me my opinion. But no, you'd rather make pathetic attempts to divert the 'discussion' away from 'low background steel' because you have absolutely nothing to back up the dubious claims you believe.
The 'low background steel' subject is based on nothing more than somebody's say-so. And you know it.
Laughable, desperate, pathetic and dishonest. Echt. Nog erger dan je wazige claims over EMP.
Please provide more info re: low background steel. Or just be honest and admit that there is fuck all info to find. Then ask yourself why.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Dus volgens jou bestaat low background steel niet?quote:
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Waarom? Haha, je kan zeker geen verder info over 'low background steel' vinden dus nu wil je over MIJNE meningen weer beginnen. Paar weken terug hebben we alleen maar afleidende gezeik over meningen en feiten van je gehoord. Not to mention the idiotic cliché : 'Dat is mening, geen feit'.
Ik wil graag meer info over de low background steel claims zien - maar jij en je cohorts weten dondersgoed dat er helemaal niks meer over te vinden is.
You should be asking yourself why there isn't any basic information to be found rather than asking me my opinion. But no, you'd rather make pathetic attempts to divert the 'discussion' away from 'low background steel' because you have absolutely nothing to back up the dubious claims you believe.
The 'low background steel' subject is based on nothing more than somebody's say-so. And you know it.
Laughable, desperate, pathetic and dishonest. Echt. Nog erger dan je wazige claims over EMP.
Please provide more info re: low background steel. Or just be honest and admit that there is fuck all info to find. Then ask yourself why.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Mensen geloven in een onzichtbare man in de lucht, die noemen ze God.
Maar als er een bankje staat en er staat op "pas op nat" moeten ze eerst voelen.
Dat is dus exact het probleem met straling je ziet het niet je voelt het niet je ruikt het niet.
Dus het bestaat niet.
Maar als er een bankje staat en er staat op "pas op nat" moeten ze eerst voelen.
Dat is dus exact het probleem met straling je ziet het niet je voelt het niet je ruikt het niet.
Dus het bestaat niet.
Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
I don't quite understand why you're asking me. It's getting a bit creepy to be honest. It's probably a shill tactic.quote:
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Dus volgens jou bestaat low background steel niet?
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
One would expect that the discovery of low background steel would be very important to the steel industry, but oddly enough, there is absolutely NOTHING to be found about 'low-background steel' on any steel producer websites. There is absolutely loads of thorough, highly detailed information to be found about pretty much every type of steel known to humankind, but NOTHING about low background steel.
If low background truly exists, there would be reliable, detailed information available about it. Only a fool would believe something which totally LACKS any fundamental information. It should be re-named 'no background steel'.
The history of steel production and development is quite an interesting subject so researching it has not been a waste of time, but trying to have any sort of reasonable discussion about it here clearly is a waste of time. The shameless ignorance and dishonesty of some people here is astonishing....and weird.
Anyway....
Encyclopedia Britannica has a lot of detailed information about the history, steel types and steel production methods but mentions absolutely NOTHING about 'low-background steel'.
https://www.britannica.com/technology/steel
'The World Steel Association (worldsteel) is one of the largest and most dynamic industry associations in the world. worldsteel represents over 160 steel producers (including 9 of the world’s 10 largest steel companies), national and regional steel industry associations, and steel research institutes. worldsteel members represent around 85% of world steel production.'
'Six worldsteel members (ArcelorMittal, Tata Steel Europe, Tata Steel Limited, Tenaris, thyssenkrupp AG and voestalpine AG) have been recognised for their outstanding efforts in sustainability activities.'
https://www.worldsteel.or(...)+in+Figures+2018.pdf
No mention of low background steel.
https://corporate.arcelormittal.com/what-we-do/steel
ArcelorMittal has steelmaking facilities in 19 countries, and we are the leader in all the main steel markets.
Your search for "low background steel" returned 0 results
https://www.tatasteeleurope.com/
Tata Steel is Europe's second largest steel producer, with steelmaking in the UK and Netherlands, and manufacturing plants across Europe.
https://www.tatasteeleurope.com/en/products
Absolutely no mention of low-background steel to be found.
…...
http://www.tenaris.com/en/Products.aspx
Absolutely nothing to be found regarding 'low-background steel'.
https://www.thyssenkrupp.com/en/products/
Absolutely nothing to find about 'low-background steel'.
https://www.voestalpine.com/group/en/products/
“In its business segments, voestalpine is a globally leading technology group with a unique combination of material and processing expertise. With its top-quality products and system solutions using steel and other metals, it is a leading partner to the automotive and consumer goods industries in Europe and to the aerospace, oil and gas industries worldwide. The voestalpine Group is also the world market leader in turnout technology, special rails, tool steel, and special sections.”
http://www.voestalpine.co(...)eel&context=Products
Oh dear - still no mention of 'low-background steel'.
If low background truly exists, there would be reliable, detailed information available about it. Only a fool would believe something which totally LACKS any fundamental information. It should be re-named 'no background steel'.
The history of steel production and development is quite an interesting subject so researching it has not been a waste of time, but trying to have any sort of reasonable discussion about it here clearly is a waste of time. The shameless ignorance and dishonesty of some people here is astonishing....and weird.
Anyway....
Encyclopedia Britannica has a lot of detailed information about the history, steel types and steel production methods but mentions absolutely NOTHING about 'low-background steel'.
https://www.britannica.com/technology/steel
'The World Steel Association (worldsteel) is one of the largest and most dynamic industry associations in the world. worldsteel represents over 160 steel producers (including 9 of the world’s 10 largest steel companies), national and regional steel industry associations, and steel research institutes. worldsteel members represent around 85% of world steel production.'
'Six worldsteel members (ArcelorMittal, Tata Steel Europe, Tata Steel Limited, Tenaris, thyssenkrupp AG and voestalpine AG) have been recognised for their outstanding efforts in sustainability activities.'
https://www.worldsteel.or(...)+in+Figures+2018.pdf
No mention of low background steel.
https://corporate.arcelormittal.com/what-we-do/steel
ArcelorMittal has steelmaking facilities in 19 countries, and we are the leader in all the main steel markets.
Your search for "low background steel" returned 0 results
https://www.tatasteeleurope.com/
Tata Steel is Europe's second largest steel producer, with steelmaking in the UK and Netherlands, and manufacturing plants across Europe.
https://www.tatasteeleurope.com/en/products
Absolutely no mention of low-background steel to be found.
…...
http://www.tenaris.com/en/Products.aspx
Absolutely nothing to be found regarding 'low-background steel'.
https://www.thyssenkrupp.com/en/products/
Absolutely nothing to find about 'low-background steel'.
https://www.voestalpine.com/group/en/products/
“In its business segments, voestalpine is a globally leading technology group with a unique combination of material and processing expertise. With its top-quality products and system solutions using steel and other metals, it is a leading partner to the automotive and consumer goods industries in Europe and to the aerospace, oil and gas industries worldwide. The voestalpine Group is also the world market leader in turnout technology, special rails, tool steel, and special sections.”
http://www.voestalpine.co(...)eel&context=Products
Oh dear - still no mention of 'low-background steel'.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Wellicht ben je gewoon niet zo goed in zoeken
https://www.chemistryworl(...)teel/3009874.article
http://www.sciencemadesim(...)m-sunken-battleships
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1609.07515.pdf
https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1120322
https://www.scmp.com/news(...)pping-rusted-warship
https://www.chemistryworl(...)teel/3009874.article
http://www.sciencemadesim(...)m-sunken-battleships
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1609.07515.pdf
https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1120322
https://www.scmp.com/news(...)pping-rusted-warship
In Baden-Badener Badeseen kann man Baden-Badener baden sehen.
Omdat je zo vaak om dingen heen draait, en het dan handig is om duidelijk te hebben wat je mening/standpunt hierover is.quote:
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I don't quite understand why you're asking me. It's getting a bit creepy to be honest. It's probably a shill tactic.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Wat ik slecht begrijp, is dat als iemand kernwapens wilt ontkennen, waarom gaat diegene dan alles eromheen proberen te debunken? Waarom niet gewoon kernwapens debunken? 
No that's not true. I'm actually pretty good at finding the information I'm looking for.quote:Op zaterdag 1 juni 2019 16:19 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:
Wellicht ben je gewoon niet zo goed in zoeken
https://www.chemistryworl(...)teel/3009874.article
http://www.sciencemadesim(...)m-sunken-battleships
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1609.07515.pdf
https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1120322
https://www.scmp.com/news(...)pping-rusted-warship
I read a couple of the articles you posted a few weeks ago and none of them have info regarding when, how, where and by whom 'low-background steel' was discovered. It is simple information which should be easy to find.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Anyway, I got to thinking that if such a material as low-background steel actually exists, it'd be listed on the (commodity) stock markets. Right? I'm not familiar with the stock market so maybe someone who is could find something.
American Metal Market
https://www.amm.com/Pricing/ScrapPrices_FullList.html
Nothing about low background steel to be found.
Leading provider of global metal & steel prices
https://www.metalbulletin.com/
Nothing to be found about low-background steel
More about steel prices/stock market:
http://www.metalbulletinr(...)lics-Forecaster.html
Nothing to be found about low-background steel
Popular mechanics,History of Steel:
https://www.popularmechan(...)05/history-of-steel/
Nothing to be found about low-background steel.
Conspicuous by it's absence.
The term was probably just made up only a few years ago by a bunch of dishonest scientists (or a science fiction writer) on the payroll of the atomic hoaxsters.
American Metal Market
https://www.amm.com/Pricing/ScrapPrices_FullList.html
Nothing about low background steel to be found.
Leading provider of global metal & steel prices
https://www.metalbulletin.com/
Nothing to be found about low-background steel
More about steel prices/stock market:
http://www.metalbulletinr(...)lics-Forecaster.html
Nothing to be found about low-background steel
Popular mechanics,History of Steel:
https://www.popularmechan(...)05/history-of-steel/
Nothing to be found about low-background steel.
Conspicuous by it's absence.
The term was probably just made up only a few years ago by a bunch of dishonest scientists (or a science fiction writer) on the payroll of the atomic hoaxsters.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Yep, dat jij alleen maar bevestiging zoekt is duidelijkquote:
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No that's not true. I'm actually pretty good at finding the information I'm looking for.
In Baden-Badener Badeseen kann man Baden-Badener baden sehen.
Dus eerst zeg je dat je het niet kan vinden, nou plaatst iemand anders behoorlijk snel de informatie wat je zoekt en dan gooi je het op een ander slap excuus ...quote:
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No that's not true. I'm actually pretty good at finding the information I'm looking for.
I read a couple of the articles you posted a few weeks ago and none of them have info regarding when, how, where and by whom 'low-background steel' was discovered. It is simple information which should be easy to find.
Ja het is makkelijk te vinden maar zodra iemand het vind bedenk je wel weer een of ander slap excuus dat de informatie incorrect onjuist of onlogisch is...
Weet je hoe ik dat noem...
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Droevig.
Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
Droevig is al heel lang het juiste woord ja.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
En behalve maar blijven draaien over staal, over c14 calibratie problemen na ongeveer 1950 hoor je hem ook nietquote:
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Dus eerst zeg je dat je het niet kan vinden, nou plaatst iemand anders behoorlijk snel de informatie wat je zoekt en dan gooi je het op een ander slap excuus ...
Ja het is makkelijk te vinden maar zodra iemand het vind bedenk je wel weer een of ander slap excuus dat de informatie incorrect onjuist of onlogisch is...
Weet je hoe ik dat noem...
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Droevig.
https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Present
In Baden-Badener Badeseen kann man Baden-Badener baden sehen.
Over die wijn, kunst en lood ook niet.quote:
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En behalve maar blijven draaien over staal, over c14 calibratie problemen na ongeveer 1950 hoor je hem ook niet
https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Present
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Hij post zometeen weer een heel verhaal wat verder nergens op slaat of op in gaat.quote:
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Over die wijn, kunst en lood ook niet.
In Baden-Badener Badeseen kann man Baden-Badener baden sehen.
https://www.good.is/articles/the-search-for-low-background-steelquote:
Anyway, I got to thinking that if such a material as low-background steel actually exists, it'd be listed on the (commodity) stock markets. Right? I'm not familiar with the stock market so maybe someone who is could find something.
American Metal Market
https://www.amm.com/Pricing/ScrapPrices_FullList.html
Nothing about low background steel to be found.
Leading provider of global metal & steel prices
https://www.metalbulletin.com/
Nothing to be found about low-background steel
More about steel prices/stock market:
http://www.metalbulletinr(...)lics-Forecaster.html
Nothing to be found about low-background steel
Popular mechanics,History of Steel:
https://www.popularmechan(...)05/history-of-steel/
Nothing to be found about low-background steel.
Conspicuous by it's absence.
The term was probably just made up only a few years ago by a bunch of dishonest scientists (or a science fiction writer) on the payroll of the atomic hoaxsters.
https://www.chemistryworl(...)teel/3009874.article
http://www.sciencemadesim(...)m-sunken-battleships
https://www.scrapmetalfor(...)-radiation-lead.html
Hoe kan je nou zo simpel zijn?
Well, as I expected (because I'd already looked it all up myself weeks ago anyway and none of the nukist-nudist camp fraternity didn't immediately post anything they could not find anyway) the information about 'low-background steel' I've been searching for has not been posted.
When, where, how and by whom it was first discovered. UNKNOWN.
The term 'low-background steel' is not acknowledged or even mentioned on the websites of any major global steel producers, corporations etc, which is unusual, as such a discovery would obviously be very important to them.
The commodity (low-background steel) is not listed on any of the worlds stock markets.....which is a surprise, as it seems that one can invest in pretty much anything and everything these days.
'Low-background steel' is not mentioned in 'The History of Steel' on general information/educative sites such as Popular Mechanics or Encyclopedia Britannica.
Conspicuous by it's absence.
Remember folks – it's often much more important what we DON'T get told/taught.
It seems the term 'low-background steel' first appeared around ten years ago on scientistic discussion forums, mainly based on the vague wiki page, but most of the articles are quite recent (within the last few years or so) and have shown up on the scientistic pages of MSM outlets .....and all follow roughly the same line...pre-'atomic', old battleships, disturbing the war graves etc., but NONE of them state any simple facts of the matter (when,where,how,who etc.)
I do like the sentimental 'disturbing-war-graves' angle though.
I had two Great Grandfathers who died in France and Belgium in WWI (most likely of disease rather than german bullets or bombs), and I wouldn't be upset if a farmer wanted to use the land. Maybe I should put in a compensation claim like some people still do to this day, about WWII. Just kidding.
Anyway...
Then there's the story that NASA used 'low-background steel' bits of a battleship for the Voyager 'space-ship'. And that 'low-background steel' is used in the production of satellites.
Oh dear – depending on what your PoV is.:)
Anyway, a special thanks to Piet de Verdrietig who brought up the 'low-background steel' subject. It's been interesting to research it, although for me, the complete lack of reliable information has been even more interesting. I'd be glad to hear of any further information( re: low-background steel) from people who are genuinely interested in discussing the subject.
When, where, how and by whom it was first discovered. UNKNOWN.
The term 'low-background steel' is not acknowledged or even mentioned on the websites of any major global steel producers, corporations etc, which is unusual, as such a discovery would obviously be very important to them.
The commodity (low-background steel) is not listed on any of the worlds stock markets.....which is a surprise, as it seems that one can invest in pretty much anything and everything these days.
'Low-background steel' is not mentioned in 'The History of Steel' on general information/educative sites such as Popular Mechanics or Encyclopedia Britannica.
Conspicuous by it's absence.
Remember folks – it's often much more important what we DON'T get told/taught.
It seems the term 'low-background steel' first appeared around ten years ago on scientistic discussion forums, mainly based on the vague wiki page, but most of the articles are quite recent (within the last few years or so) and have shown up on the scientistic pages of MSM outlets .....and all follow roughly the same line...pre-'atomic', old battleships, disturbing the war graves etc., but NONE of them state any simple facts of the matter (when,where,how,who etc.)
I do like the sentimental 'disturbing-war-graves' angle though.
I had two Great Grandfathers who died in France and Belgium in WWI (most likely of disease rather than german bullets or bombs), and I wouldn't be upset if a farmer wanted to use the land. Maybe I should put in a compensation claim like some people still do to this day, about WWII. Just kidding.Anyway...
Then there's the story that NASA used 'low-background steel' bits of a battleship for the Voyager 'space-ship'. And that 'low-background steel' is used in the production of satellites.
Oh dear – depending on what your PoV is.:)
Anyway, a special thanks to Piet de Verdrietig who brought up the 'low-background steel' subject. It's been interesting to research it, although for me, the complete lack of reliable information has been even more interesting. I'd be glad to hear of any further information( re: low-background steel) from people who are genuinely interested in discussing the subject.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Hoe bedoel je? Dat staal is er altijd al geweest, dus wat nou ontdekken? Je hebt het simpelweg over staal dat voor het bestaan van kernwapens is geproduceerd.quote:
Well, as I expected (because I'd already looked it all up myself weeks ago anyway and none of the nukist-nudist camp fraternity didn't immediately post anything they could not find anyway) the information about 'low-background steel' I've been searching for has not been posted.
When, where, how and by whom it was first discovered. UNKNOWN.
Dat er verder niemand post "what you've been searching for" lijkt me logisch, maar die reden moet je toch echt dichter bij jezelf zoeken.
