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Nee daar gaat het niet om. Het gaat erom dat een 13 jarige geen volwassene is en geen slachtoffer moet zijn van seksueel misbruik wat hier blijkbaar toe wordt gejuicht.quote:Op zaterdag 16 februari 2019 12:04 schreef Rose_Red het volgende:
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Het gaat erom wat de ouders zeggen bedoel je?
Met 13 jaar ben je niet echt een kind meer.
Hiervoor moet je uitsluitend in klb zijnquote:
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Het is zodat mijn vertrouwen in de mensheid weer zijn normale vormen krijgt zodra ik lees wat mensen denken/schrijven.
Deze user is best OK als je hem normaal aanspreekt via DM.
Sorry. Vergeten.quote:
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Hiervoor moet je uitsluitend in klb zijn
Wie zegt dat hij het ervaart als misbruik? Dat zijn ouders dat doen is duidelijk maar wie zegt dat het jong zelf er ook zo over denkt?quote:
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Nee daar gaat het niet om. Het gaat erom dat een 13 jarige geen volwassene is en geen slachtoffer moet zijn van seksueel misbruik wat hier blijkbaar toe wordt gejuicht.
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Wie zegt dat hij het ervaart als misbruik? Dat zijn ouders dat doen is duidelijk maar wie zegt dat het jong zelf er ook zo over denkt?
Een 7 jarig kind (ik noem maar wat) die misbruikt is door zijn vader ervaart dat ook als liefde omdat die de capaciteit mist om het situatie goed in te schatten. Echter het betekent niet dat dat ok is of wel soms.quote:
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Wie zegt dat hij het ervaart als misbruik? Dat zijn ouders dat doen is duidelijk maar wie zegt dat het jong zelf er ook zo over denkt?
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It's disturbing to think about what it means to a boy when he's sexually abused by someone he trusts. Uncomfortable as we feel, however, we must either talk about the reality of his experience or continue to live in silence, with devastating consequences.
Abusers use their age or authority to satisfy their own needs without regard to those of their victims. Seemingly unbreakable bonds are broken when treachery is introduced into these relationships. Consequently, many sexually abused boys grow up distrustful, considering people dishonest, malevolent, and undependable. They often become frightened of emotional connection and isolate themselves. This may alternate with merging with loved ones so they hardly know where they end and others begin.
Confusing affection with abuse, desire with tenderness, sexually abused boys often become men who have difficulty distinguishing among sex, love, nurturance, affection, and abuse. They may experience friendly interpersonal approaches as seductive and manipulative. On the other hand, they may not notice when exploitative demands are made on them - they've learned to see these as normal and acceptable.
Believing sexual closeness is the way to feel loved but experiencing love as abuse, some of these men solve their dilemma by engaging in frequent, indiscriminate, and compulsive sexual encounters. These are not free, joyous expressions of erotic passion. Sex is pursued incessantly, but with little chance for intimacy. Although strongly desiring love, these men have no sense of feeling loved once the sex act is concluded. They're left feeling empty and lonely, while the idea of fully pursuing relationships fills them with dread. Many believe sexually abused boys almost inevitably become sexually abusive men. But, while a significant proportion of male abusers were victims themselves, there's evidence that relatively few sexually abused boys actually become abusers. Because of the myth, however, many men fear they'll become abusive or worry that if they disclose their history, others will consider them predators.
Sexually abused boys are also troubled if they were aroused while being abused. Teenagers are easily aroused, having little control over the hormones surging through their bodies. But if they're stimulated by aspects of their experience, they may feel they participated in or even invited the abuse. This confuses a boy who also knows he was also repelled by the experience. Feeling guilty about any sexual pleasure he felt during his molestation, he may become ambivalent about all sexual pleasure.
Also, masculine gender expectations teach boys they can't be victims. Boys are supposed to be competitive, resilient, self-reliant, and independent, but certainly not emotionally needy. "Real" men initiate sexual activity and want sex whenever it's offered, especially by women. For many men, these qualities define masculinity.
As a result, boys may not even recognize their sexual victimization. They may assert that they weren't abused, weren't hurt, or were in charge of what happened. For them, acknowledging victimization means admitting they're weak or "not male."
Finally, when the abuser is male (and even sometimes when she is female), many boys - whether straight or gay - develop fears and concerns about sexual orientation. Conventional wisdom says sexual abuse turns boys gay, although there's no persuasive evidence that premature sexual activity fundamentally changes sexual orientation. Nevertheless, a heterosexual boy is likely to doubt himself, wondering why he was chosen by a man for sex. A homosexual boy may feel rushed into considering himself gay, or may hate his homosexuality because he believes it was caused by his abuse. Whether boys are gay or straight, these manipulative introductions to sexuality can set lifetime patterns of exploitation and self-destructive behavior.
These aftereffects are ugly. They're not only painful for victims but also costly to our society. Boys who grow up without coming to terms with their childhood abuse often struggle as men with addictions, anxiety, depression, and thoughts of suicide as well as the inability to develop or maintain relationships.
Heb je geen plaatjes ?
Waarom niet gedaan dan?quote:Op zaterdag 16 februari 2019 12:13 schreef GibsonLesPaul88 het volgende:
Toen ik 13/14 was wilde ik mijn gymdocente ook wel doen.
Batsen die handel.
Interessant he ?
7 en 13 zit wel een groot verschil tussen.quote:
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Een 7 jarig kind (ik noem maar wat) die misbruikt is door zijn vader ervaart dat ook als liefde omdat die de capaciteit mist om het situatie goed in te schatten. Echter het betekent niet dat dat ok is of wel soms.
Een 13jarige kan al beter situaties inschatten.
Idd, toen ik 13 was wilde ik niets anders dan neuken. Ik was toen een zgn. testosteronbiemmetje.quote:
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7 en 13 zit wel een groot verschil tussen.
Een 13jarige kan al beter situaties inschatten.
Ik ook.quote:
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Idd, toen ik 13 was wilde ik niets anders dan neuken. Ik was toen een zgn. testosteronbiemmetje.
Een 7 jarige weet niet wat seks precies inhoudt maar een 13 jarige weet dat echt wel.
Ja.quote:
Op vrijdag 14 mei 2021 @ 23:33 schreef Joopklepzeiker: Zonder twijfel is @vogeltjesdans de grootste smaakmaker en intelligentste persoon van heel KLB.
Dit is een algemeen stuk over seksueel misbruik van jongens waar ze het zowel over misbruik door mannen als over misbruik door vrouwen hebben.quote:
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It's disturbing to think about what it means to a boy when he's sexually abused by someone he trusts. Uncomfortable as we feel, however, we must either talk about the reality of his experience or continue to live in silence, with devastating consequences.
Abusers use their age or authority to satisfy their own needs without regard to those of their victims. Seemingly unbreakable bonds are broken when treachery is introduced into these relationships. Consequently, many sexually abused boys grow up distrustful, considering people dishonest, malevolent, and undependable. They often become frightened of emotional connection and isolate themselves. This may alternate with merging with loved ones so they hardly know where they end and others begin.
Confusing affection with abuse, desire with tenderness, sexually abused boys often become men who have difficulty distinguishing among sex, love, nurturance, affection, and abuse. They may experience friendly interpersonal approaches as seductive and manipulative. On the other hand, they may not notice when exploitative demands are made on them - they've learned to see these as normal and acceptable.
Believing sexual closeness is the way to feel loved but experiencing love as abuse, some of these men solve their dilemma by engaging in frequent, indiscriminate, and compulsive sexual encounters. These are not free, joyous expressions of erotic passion. Sex is pursued incessantly, but with little chance for intimacy. Although strongly desiring love, these men have no sense of feeling loved once the sex act is concluded. They're left feeling empty and lonely, while the idea of fully pursuing relationships fills them with dread. Many believe sexually abused boys almost inevitably become sexually abusive men. But, while a significant proportion of male abusers were victims themselves, there's evidence that relatively few sexually abused boys actually become abusers. Because of the myth, however, many men fear they'll become abusive or worry that if they disclose their history, others will consider them predators.
Sexually abused boys are also troubled if they were aroused while being abused. Teenagers are easily aroused, having little control over the hormones surging through their bodies. But if they're stimulated by aspects of their experience, they may feel they participated in or even invited the abuse. This confuses a boy who also knows he was also repelled by the experience. Feeling guilty about any sexual pleasure he felt during his molestation, he may become ambivalent about all sexual pleasure.
Also, masculine gender expectations teach boys they can't be victims. Boys are supposed to be competitive, resilient, self-reliant, and independent, but certainly not emotionally needy. "Real" men initiate sexual activity and want sex whenever it's offered, especially by women. For many men, these qualities define masculinity.
As a result, boys may not even recognize their sexual victimization. They may assert that they weren't abused, weren't hurt, or were in charge of what happened. For them, acknowledging victimization means admitting they're weak or "not male."
Finally, when the abuser is male (and even sometimes when she is female), many boys - whether straight or gay - develop fears and concerns about sexual orientation. Conventional wisdom says sexual abuse turns boys gay, although there's no persuasive evidence that premature sexual activity fundamentally changes sexual orientation. Nevertheless, a heterosexual boy is likely to doubt himself, wondering why he was chosen by a man for sex. A homosexual boy may feel rushed into considering himself gay, or may hate his homosexuality because he believes it was caused by his abuse. Whether boys are gay or straight, these manipulative introductions to sexuality can set lifetime patterns of exploitation and self-destructive behavior.
These aftereffects are ugly. They're not only painful for victims but also costly to our society. Boys who grow up without coming to terms with their childhood abuse often struggle as men with addictions, anxiety, depression, and thoughts of suicide as well as the inability to develop or maintain relationships.
Maar ik durf te wedden dat er geen onderzoek is gedaan naar: lange termijnseffecten van 13-15-jarige jongens, die "vrijwillig" (kun je volgens de wet volgens mij sowieso niet over spreken) seks hebben gehad, met een wat oudere, zeer aantrekkelijke vrouw.
Dat zou natuurlijk niet acceptabel zijn, zulk onderzoek. Dat terwijl het wel inzicht kan geven in wie het nu bij het rechte end hebben: de "nice roepers" of de "boeee roepers"..
Krekker is de bom!
Daar passen wel een paar lulletjes in.quote:Op zaterdag 16 februari 2019 11:50 schreef CrashO het volgende:
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Ik kan me de trauma's al voorstellen van de arme jongen die hierop mocht kruipen
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Wtf zijn deze reacties 
Zou me niet verbazen als het halve topic pedofiel was.
Tevens, de FP lezen
Zou me niet verbazen als het halve topic pedofiel was.
Tevens, de FP lezen
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Wat een onzin.quote:
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Dit is een algemeen stuk over seksueel misbruik van jongens waar ze het zowel over misbruik door mannen als over misbruik door vrouwen hebben.
Maar ik durf te wedden dat er geen onderzoek is gedaan naar: lange termijnseffecten van 13-15-jarige jongens, die "vrijwillig" (kun je volgens de wet volgens mij sowieso niet over spreken) seks hebben gehad, met een wat oudere, zeer aantrekkelijke vrouw.
Dat zou natuurlijk niet acceptabel zijn, zulk onderzoek. Dat terwijl het wel inzicht kan geven in wie het nu bij het rechte end hebben: de "nice roepers" of de "boeee roepers"..
Hier heb je ze ook.quote:
Wtf zijn deze reacties
Zou me niet verbazen als het halve topic pedofiel was.
Tevens, de FP lezen
