Grote chemische aanval op Douma, Syrië #2

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:14 schreef Infection het volgende:

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Jawel hoor. In Syrië is dat zelfs helemaal niet zo moeilijk.

Maar natuurlijk wordt er tegenwoordig een stuk meer gepraat dan voorheen en zal een dergelijke escalatie snel weer gesust worden.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:18 schreef Rangono het volgende:

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Het gaat niet om Syrie, het gaat erom dat landen (zeker grootmachten) veel te veel afhankelijk zijn van elkaar. Dat is misschien wel een van de mooiste voordelen van een globalistische wereld.

Niemand is gebaat bij een groot conflict. Niemand.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:44 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:
Is het geen tijd om de TT aan te passen? Of die aanval er nu wel of niet geweest is, is totaal niet duidelijk.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:44 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:
Is het geen tijd om de TT aan te passen? Of die aanval er nu wel of niet geweest is, is totaal niet duidelijk.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:58 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:

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Ja ---> NWS / Grote chemische aanval op Douma, Syrië #2

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:13 schreef Rangono het volgende:

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Escaleren kan het niet. Die tijd zijn wij echt voorbij.

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Moscow has reiterated that Russia will retaliate if their forces are struck. “We have to say once again that military interference in Syria, where Russian forces have been deployed at the request of the legitimate government, under contrived and false pretexts is absolutely unacceptable and can lead to very grave consequences,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

The Foreign Ministry statement reinforces a recent declaration by the Chief of the General Staff Gen. Valery Gerasimov. “If lives of the Russian officers are threatened, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will retaliate against missile and launch systems,” Gerasimov said on March 13.

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He said: “I would tell the Russians that we intend to do it and that your supporting of Assad, who is complicit in committing war crimes, and that you should move any of your Russian personnel away from those airfields that we may even strike.”

BBC host Justin Webb asked: “If the Russians say ‘we are not going to move’, what are you going to do?”

Mr Keane then warned: “Make the strike and let them suffer the consequences.”

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If Russia’s forces are hit by an American or allied air strike, Moscow will respond with force. The Kremlin is not bluffing, analysts say. “If Russian forces are attacked then we will have a war,” Vasily Kashin, a senior fellow at the Center for Comprehensive European and International Studies at Moscow's Higher School of Economics, told the National Interest.

Russian forces have the ability to strike back at U.S. and allied bases—not only in the Middle East but also in Europe. As Gerasimov had noted, the Russians would not necessarily confine their response to an attack on their forces to just Syria, they would strike at the launch platforms and their bases of origin. Long range precision guided weapons such as the ship and submarine based Kalibr cruise missile and the X-101 air-launched cruise missile—which can be carried onboard the Tupolev Tu-95 Bear and Tu-160 Blackjack strategic bombers—afford Moscow the ability to strike U.S. bases around the region. That could be cause for concern for American allies, which might host U.S. strike aircraft that might engage Russian targets.

The problem with starting a war with another nuclear-armed great power is that such conflicts inevitably escalate—and escalate out of control. Indeed, a conflict between Russia and the United States is likely to do so. “It will most likely escalate out of control,” Kashin said.

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Depending on Trump’s decisions over the next twenty-four to forty-eight hours, the world may be faced with the most dangerous great-power confrontation since the Cuban Missile Crisis. The outcome could either be an unmitigated disaster, where there is an open war between Russia and the United States, or it might turn out to be a learning experience that averts future crises.

The Washington national security community has largely forgotten the Cold War concepts of nuclear deterrence and managing confrontations with a nuclear-armed rival. Over the past twenty-five years or so, Washington has become accustomed to a world where there are no great-power challengers and the only real threat comes from terrorism.

“People have sophomoric views on great power confrontation here,” Kofman said. “In fact a lot of people don’t even understand nuclear strategy and deterrence all that well anymore and the escalatory dynamics. And you can tell by the conversations—we have been in the terrorism/counterinsurgency game for way too long and people don’t understand what they are playing with at senior levels. I hear it all the time. That’s all a recipe for a 1950-1960s type interaction with another great power.”

Indeed, it might take a new version of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis for the American foreign policy establishment to grasp how dangerous a confrontation with a rival nuclear-armed great power can be. “I hate to say it, but it might be a good thing,” Kofman said. “I actually think it might be a good thing to have that crisis for everyone to grow up.”

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 17:32 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:

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Rusland heeft gewaarschuwd dat ze zullen terugslaan als hun troepen onder vuur komen te liggen.

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De voormalige vice chief of staff onder Bush zegt dat de VS moet bombarderen, ongeacht of de Russen aanwezig zijn of niet.

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Als de Russen geraakt worden moeten ze terugslaan.

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De Amerikanen zijn gewoon geworden om over tegenstanders heen te walsen, ze zijn de koude oorlog vergeten. Dat kan verkeerd aflopen.

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http://nationalinterest.o(...)r-syria-25292?page=3

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 17:33 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:

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Ik sluit het niet uit.

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Ruptly twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 17:28:10 BREAKING: OPCW to send weapons inspectors to Douma reageer retweet

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BreakingNLive twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 17:33:37 In addition to USS Donald Cook, US has now dispatched USN Carrier Strike Group 8 to the Mediterranean/Syria- USS Harry Truman aircraft carrier- Carrier Air Wing VII- USS Hué City missile cruiser- x6 Arleigh Burke-class Destroyers- x1 Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate#Douma https://t.co/x0PgWy06wY reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 17:38 schreef Infection het volgende:

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Ruptly twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 17:28:10 BREAKING: OPCW to send weapons inspectors to Douma reageer retweet

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BreakingNLive twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 17:33:37 In addition to USS Donald Cook, US has now dispatched USN Carrier Strike Group 8 to the Mediterranean/Syria- USS Harry Truman aircraft carrier- Carrier Air Wing VII- USS Hué City missile cruiser- x6 Arleigh Burke-class Destroyers- x1 Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate#Douma https://t.co/x0PgWy06wY reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 17:44 schreef _--_ het volgende:

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Weapon inspectors?

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:00 schreef Mani89 het volgende:
Smerig om te zien hoe al die oorlogshavikken dit weer gretig oppakken om op de oorlogstrom te slaan voordat er duidelijkheid is over de schuldigen. Mad Dog en Bolton zullen Trump al lekker aan het masseren zijn. Kots.

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AFP twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 18:29:44 #BREAKING US President Trump, UK Prime Minister May will 'not allow' Syria chemical attacks to continue, White House says reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 18:30 schreef Infection het volgende:

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AFP twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 18:29:44 #BREAKING US President Trump, UK Prime Minister May will 'not allow' Syria chemical attacks to continue, White House says reageer retweet

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AFP twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 20:12:10 #BREAKING Any French strikes on Syria regime would target chemical facilities, says President Macron reageer retweet

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airlivenet twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 20:54:43 ALERT According to reports, British forces are mobilizing at their bases in Cyprus and Rafale fighter jets could takeoff from St Dizier airbase in France for possible strikes against Syria reageer retweet

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"When I spoke to you less than four months ago we were all enjoying the warmth and fellowship of a family Christmas. Our thoughts were concentrated on the strong links that bind each generation to the ones that came before and those that will follow. The horrors of war could not have seemed more remote as my family and I shared our Christmas joy with the growing family of the Commonwealth.

Now this madness of war is once more spreading through the world and our brave country must again prepare itself to survive against great odds.

I have never forgotten the sorrow and the pride I felt as my sister and I huddled around the nursery wireless set listening to my father's inspiring words on that fateful day in 1939. Not for a single moment did I imagine that this solemn and awful duty would one day fall to me.

We all know that the dangers facing us today are greater by far than at any time in our long history. The enemy is not the soldier with his rifle nor even the airman prowling the skies above our cities and towns but the deadly power of abused technology.

But whatever terrors lie in wait for us all, the qualities that have helped to keep our freedom intact twice already during this sad century will once more be our strength. My husband and I share with families up and down the land the fear we feel for sons and daughters, husbands and brothers who have left our side to serve their country. My beloved son Andrew is at this moment in action with his unit and we pray continually for his safety and for the safety of all servicemen and women at home and overseas.

It is this close bond of family life that must be our greatest defence against the unknown. If families remain united and resolute, giving shelter to those living alone and unprotected, our country's will to survive cannot be broken.

My message to you therefore is simple. Help those who cannot help themselves, give comfort to the lonely and the homeless and let your family become the focus of hope and life to those who need it.

As we strive together to fight off the new evil, let us pray for our country and men of goodwill wherever they may be.

God bless you all."

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airlivenet twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 21:21:38 ALERT Notification from Eurocontrol for Eastern Mediterranean area due to possible launch of airstrikes within the next 72 hours https://t.co/9h3EhazS2i reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:28 schreef Hathor het volgende:
En dat allemaal zonder enig bewijs.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:30 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Ah joh, laat die Trump toch lekker. Zijn woede richt zich op Assad en Poetin, twee gigantische teringlijers.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:38 schreef Rangono het volgende:

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En er is gewoon bewijs, hoor.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:39 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Dan is het helemaal prima.

En schiet dan gelijk het paleis van die Assad aan stront.

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AFP twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 21:41:08 #BREAKING Russia vetoes UN bid to set up Syria chemical weapons inquiry reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:41 schreef Infection het volgende:

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AFP twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 21:41:08 #BREAKING Russia vetoes UN bid to set up Syria chemical weapons inquiry reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:38 schreef Rangono het volgende:

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En er is gewoon bewijs, hoor.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:55 schreef TheJanitor het volgende:

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Volgens wie?

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:57 schreef Rangono het volgende:

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Het kwam uit een helikopter. Jihadisten beschikken daar niet over.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:57 schreef TheJanitor het volgende:

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Filmpje? Ben wel benieuwd.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:59 schreef Rangono het volgende:

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Jij denkt dat men constant met een camera aan het wachten is tot er gas uit de helikopters komen?

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:30 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Ah joh, laat die Trump toch lekker. Zijn woede richt zich op Assad en Poetin, twee gigantische teringlijers.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:57 schreef Rangono het volgende:

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Het kwam uit een helikopter. Jihadisten beschikken daar niet over.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 21:57 schreef Rangono het volgende:

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Het kwam uit een helikopter. Jihadisten beschikken daar niet over.