Grote chemische aanval op Douma, Syrië #2

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:14 schreef Infection het volgende:

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Jawel hoor. In Syrië is dat zelfs helemaal niet zo moeilijk.

Maar natuurlijk wordt er tegenwoordig een stuk meer gepraat dan voorheen en zal een dergelijke escalatie snel weer gesust worden.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:18 schreef Rangono het volgende:

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Het gaat niet om Syrie, het gaat erom dat landen (zeker grootmachten) veel te veel afhankelijk zijn van elkaar. Dat is misschien wel een van de mooiste voordelen van een globalistische wereld.

Niemand is gebaat bij een groot conflict. Niemand.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:44 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:
Is het geen tijd om de TT aan te passen? Of die aanval er nu wel of niet geweest is, is totaal niet duidelijk.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:44 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:
Is het geen tijd om de TT aan te passen? Of die aanval er nu wel of niet geweest is, is totaal niet duidelijk.

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:58 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:

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Ja ---> NWS / Grote chemische aanval op Douma, Syrië #2

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:13 schreef Rangono het volgende:

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Escaleren kan het niet. Die tijd zijn wij echt voorbij.

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Moscow has reiterated that Russia will retaliate if their forces are struck. “We have to say once again that military interference in Syria, where Russian forces have been deployed at the request of the legitimate government, under contrived and false pretexts is absolutely unacceptable and can lead to very grave consequences,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

The Foreign Ministry statement reinforces a recent declaration by the Chief of the General Staff Gen. Valery Gerasimov. “If lives of the Russian officers are threatened, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will retaliate against missile and launch systems,” Gerasimov said on March 13.

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He said: “I would tell the Russians that we intend to do it and that your supporting of Assad, who is complicit in committing war crimes, and that you should move any of your Russian personnel away from those airfields that we may even strike.”

BBC host Justin Webb asked: “If the Russians say ‘we are not going to move’, what are you going to do?”

Mr Keane then warned: “Make the strike and let them suffer the consequences.”

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If Russia’s forces are hit by an American or allied air strike, Moscow will respond with force. The Kremlin is not bluffing, analysts say. “If Russian forces are attacked then we will have a war,” Vasily Kashin, a senior fellow at the Center for Comprehensive European and International Studies at Moscow's Higher School of Economics, told the National Interest.

Russian forces have the ability to strike back at U.S. and allied bases—not only in the Middle East but also in Europe. As Gerasimov had noted, the Russians would not necessarily confine their response to an attack on their forces to just Syria, they would strike at the launch platforms and their bases of origin. Long range precision guided weapons such as the ship and submarine based Kalibr cruise missile and the X-101 air-launched cruise missile—which can be carried onboard the Tupolev Tu-95 Bear and Tu-160 Blackjack strategic bombers—afford Moscow the ability to strike U.S. bases around the region. That could be cause for concern for American allies, which might host U.S. strike aircraft that might engage Russian targets.

The problem with starting a war with another nuclear-armed great power is that such conflicts inevitably escalate—and escalate out of control. Indeed, a conflict between Russia and the United States is likely to do so. “It will most likely escalate out of control,” Kashin said.

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Depending on Trump’s decisions over the next twenty-four to forty-eight hours, the world may be faced with the most dangerous great-power confrontation since the Cuban Missile Crisis. The outcome could either be an unmitigated disaster, where there is an open war between Russia and the United States, or it might turn out to be a learning experience that averts future crises.

The Washington national security community has largely forgotten the Cold War concepts of nuclear deterrence and managing confrontations with a nuclear-armed rival. Over the past twenty-five years or so, Washington has become accustomed to a world where there are no great-power challengers and the only real threat comes from terrorism.

“People have sophomoric views on great power confrontation here,” Kofman said. “In fact a lot of people don’t even understand nuclear strategy and deterrence all that well anymore and the escalatory dynamics. And you can tell by the conversations—we have been in the terrorism/counterinsurgency game for way too long and people don’t understand what they are playing with at senior levels. I hear it all the time. That’s all a recipe for a 1950-1960s type interaction with another great power.”

Indeed, it might take a new version of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis for the American foreign policy establishment to grasp how dangerous a confrontation with a rival nuclear-armed great power can be. “I hate to say it, but it might be a good thing,” Kofman said. “I actually think it might be a good thing to have that crisis for everyone to grow up.”

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 17:32 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:

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Rusland heeft gewaarschuwd dat ze zullen terugslaan als hun troepen onder vuur komen te liggen.

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De voormalige vice chief of staff onder Bush zegt dat de VS moet bombarderen, ongeacht of de Russen aanwezig zijn of niet.

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Als de Russen geraakt worden moeten ze terugslaan.

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De Amerikanen zijn gewoon geworden om over tegenstanders heen te walsen, ze zijn de koude oorlog vergeten. Dat kan verkeerd aflopen.

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http://nationalinterest.o(...)r-syria-25292?page=3

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 17:33 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:

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Ik sluit het niet uit.

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Ruptly twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 17:28:10 BREAKING: OPCW to send weapons inspectors to Douma reageer retweet

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BreakingNLive twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 17:33:37 In addition to USS Donald Cook, US has now dispatched USN Carrier Strike Group 8 to the Mediterranean/Syria- USS Harry Truman aircraft carrier- Carrier Air Wing VII- USS Hué City missile cruiser- x6 Arleigh Burke-class Destroyers- x1 Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate#Douma https://t.co/x0PgWy06wY reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 17:38 schreef Infection het volgende:

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Ruptly twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 17:28:10 BREAKING: OPCW to send weapons inspectors to Douma reageer retweet

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BreakingNLive twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 17:33:37 In addition to USS Donald Cook, US has now dispatched USN Carrier Strike Group 8 to the Mediterranean/Syria- USS Harry Truman aircraft carrier- Carrier Air Wing VII- USS Hué City missile cruiser- x6 Arleigh Burke-class Destroyers- x1 Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate#Douma https://t.co/x0PgWy06wY reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 17:44 schreef _--_ het volgende:

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Weapon inspectors?

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 16:00 schreef Mani89 het volgende:
Smerig om te zien hoe al die oorlogshavikken dit weer gretig oppakken om op de oorlogstrom te slaan voordat er duidelijkheid is over de schuldigen. Mad Dog en Bolton zullen Trump al lekker aan het masseren zijn. Kots.

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AFP twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 18:29:44 #BREAKING US President Trump, UK Prime Minister May will 'not allow' Syria chemical attacks to continue, White House says reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 10 april 2018 18:30 schreef Infection het volgende:

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AFP twitterde op dinsdag 10-04-2018 om 18:29:44 #BREAKING US President Trump, UK Prime Minister May will 'not allow' Syria chemical attacks to continue, White House says reageer retweet