Brexit #41 Brexit :')

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Op donderdag 29 december 2016 07:17 schreef Falco het volgende:

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De EU is ook niet het probleem. Het is de uiterst shitterige en uitzichtloze situatie waar de modale werknemer zich bevindt. In Londen en andere steden gaat het goed, heeft iedereen fun. In oude arbeidersplaatsen word je gewoon acuut depressief. Ik raad iedereen de film This is England aan te kijken. Hier zie je hoe de situatie in de jaren 80 was en hoe de samenleving toen al naar de kloten ging.

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Idd. En dat idee wat jij schrijft kan ook met EU uitgevoerd worden. Sterker nog, het gebeurt al. Kansloze immigranten uit Algerije of Kosovo bijvoorbeeld krijgen geen verblijfsvergunning (ze mogen imo wel sneller teruggestuurd worden), slimme Indiërs die hier komen studeren of werken worden toegelaten. Ook dat laatste wil het VK aan banden leggen overigens. Erg suf want op deze groep mensen verdien je als land gewoon erg veel...

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Op donderdag 29 december 2016 10:23 schreef Falco het volgende:

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Afgelopen jaar

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Bron naar de plannen om minder snel visa te verstrekken aan ambitieuze studenten: https://www.theguardian.c(...)t-visa-tougher-rules

Doei

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Op donderdag 22 december 2016 17:54 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Ik begin er steeds meer voor te voelen om artikel 50 helemaal niet te activeren. Geen 2 jaar gezeik, gewoon morgen eenzijdig het EU lidmaatschap opzeggen. Dat kan namelijk gewoon. Waarom Brussel de regels van het spel laten bepalen?

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Op vrijdag 30 december 2016 09:30 schreef 99.999 het volgende:

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De Brexitfans hier beginnen inderdaad steeds wanhopiger en wilder om zich heen te slaan.

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UK's EU ambassador tells colleagues to challenge 'muddled thinking'


^{Sir Ivan said negotiating experience was "in short supply in Whitehall"}

The UK's ambassador to the EU urged British colleagues in Brussels to challenge "muddled thinking and... speak truth to power" as he quit ahead of Brexit talks, the BBC has learnt.

Writing to staff, Sir Ivan Rogers said ministers needed to hear "unvarnished" and "uncomfortable" views from Europe.

Earlier it emerged Sir Ivan would be leaving his post several months early.

The government said he had quit so a successor could be in place before Brexit negotiations started.

• Sir Ivan Rogers' letter in full

Sir Ivan's note to staff, obtained by the BBC, confirmed this but also warned the "government will only achieve the best for the country if it harnesses the best experience we have".

BBC diplomatic correspondent James Landale said the clear implication of Sir Ivan's resignation note to his staff in Brussels was that he resigned because some of his advice was being ignored by his political masters in London.

Sir Ivan, who had sparked criticism from some MPs by warning ministers a UK-EU trade agreement might take 10 years to finalise, was due to leave his post in October.

His early departure was welcomed by Brexit campaigners while pro-EU politicians said it was a blow to the government's negotiations.


^{The diplomat was appointed by David Cameron in 2013}

In his note, Sir Ivan said: "I hope you will continue to challenge ill-founded arguments and muddled thinking and that you will never be afraid to speak the truth to those in power.

"I hope that you will support each other in those difficult moments where you have to deliver messages that are disagreeable to those who need to hear them."

On the UK's Brexit negotiations with the EU, which are due to begin by the end of March, he said "serious multilateral negotiating experience is in short supply in Whitehall", adding this was not the case in the European Commission or in the European Council.

He said the government would only succeed if it "harnesses the best experience we have" and "negotiates resolutely", adding, in a reference to the remaining 27 EU states: "Senior ministers, who will decide on our positions, issue by issue, also need from you detailed, unvarnished - even where this is uncomfortable - and nuanced understanding of the views, interests and incentives of the other 27."

The nature of the UK's trading relationship with the EU has been much debated ahead of the formal talks.

Sir Ivan said that "contrary to the beliefs of some, free trade does not just happen when it is not thwarted by authorities", adding that market access would depend on the terms of the deals struck.

The diplomat also made clear that the timing of his resignation was designed to avoid disruption by leaving later this year when his term of office was expected to expire.

"It would obviously make no sense for my role to change hands later this year," he said.

A government spokeswoman said: "Sir Ivan Rogers has resigned a few months early as UK permanent representative to the European Union.

"Sir Ivan has taken this decision now to enable a successor to be appointed before the UK invokes Article 50 by the end of March. We are grateful for his work and commitment over the last three years."

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UK's lack of negotiating experience may lead to 'very hard Brexit'

Norwegian prime minister Erna Solberg says long membership of EU has left Britain without key skills for successful trade talks

Britain’s four-decade membership of the EU has left it lacking experience in international negotiations, which will hamper it in trade talks and may lead to “a very hard Brexit”, Norway’s prime minister has said.

Erna Solberg, speaking to Reuters at a meeting of Bavaria’s centre-right CSU party in Germany, said that the UK worked slowly in discussions due to a lack of recent experience of entering talks alone. “We do feel that sometimes when we are discussing with Britain, that their speed is limited by the fact that it is such a long time since they have negotiated,” she said.

Solberg said she hoped the UK would be able to negotiate an agreement that kept it close to the EU, but it would not be easy. “I fear a very hard Brexit, but I hope we will find a better solution.”

The remarks reinforce those made by Sir Ivan Rogers, who resigned as Britain’s EU ambassador this week.

Besides attacking “muddled thinking” and “ill-founded arguments” in the UK’s approach to Brexit, Rogers warned in his resignation email of the lack of negotiating experience in the British civil service compared with the EU institutions.

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Op donderdag 5 januari 2017 18:01 schreef Falco het volgende:

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http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)rkers-brexit-andrea/

Wat is deze ?? Immigranten waren toch het probleem

Andrea Leadsom was overigens de laatste uitdager van May en blonk vooral uit in incompetentie en lelijke opmerkingen over dat May een minder goeie MP zou zijn omdat ze geen kinderen heeft.

Nog een artikel over hoe Leadsom nog niet alle boeren warm heeft weten te maken voor de Brexit: http://news.sky.com/story(...)ess-farmers-10718020

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Op donderdag 5 januari 2017 18:04 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:

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https://www.theguardian.c(...)-to-very-hard-brexit

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Britain has world’s top economy

Britain ended last year as the strongest of the world’s advanced economies with growth accelerating in the six months after the Brexit vote.

Business activity hit a 17-month high last month, meaning that the economy grew by 2.2 per cent last year — more than the six other leading nations, including the US, Germany and Japan.

Far from slowing after the referendum in June, as predicted by the Treasury and Bank of England, growth appeared to have improved. GDP grew at 0.3 per cent and 0.6 per cent in the first two quarters of last year, compared with 0.6 per cent and an estimated 0.5 per cent in the final period.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk(...)ter-brexit-rt7j9lccb

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Op vrijdag 6 januari 2017 13:27 schreef SeLang het volgende:

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Maar maar maar... The Guardian had toch gezegd dat we eind 2016 in een dikke recessie zouden zitten door alle onzekerheid?

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Op vrijdag 6 januari 2017 16:09 schreef 99.999 het volgende:

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Nee, economen hadden dit verwacht. En we weten allemaal dat je economen nooit direct moet geloven .

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Op vrijdag 6 januari 2017 13:28 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Nee, het waren economen die dat tegen The Guadian zeiden.

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Op vrijdag 6 januari 2017 16:25 schreef 99.999 het volgende:

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Heb je het dan over jezelf?