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0s.gif Op zaterdag 13 augustus 2016 12:35 schreef ElviraKlapmuts het volgende:

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Gelukkig heeft hij nu deze advocaten die het beste met hem voor lijken te hebben. Het schijnt trouwens dat de aanklagers nog 90 dagen de tijd hebben om een nieuw proces aan te spannen en dat hij daarom nog moet blijven zitten afwachten. Raar systeem.
edit: oh, staat ook in het nieuwsbericht.
Voor kerst thuis dus als het door gaat. Maar inderdaad, die hele rechtspraak daar is raar. Ben ik toch blij met ons eigen systeem :P
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Interessante constatering natuurlijk van Buting dat dat systeem van gekozen functionarissen niet echt werkt. Gelukkig in hoger beroep heb je dan benoemde functionarissen en die bekijken de wet dan zoals dat zou moeten. In de lagere regionen van het "legal system" zijn er gekozen sheriffs, aanklagers en rechters en die zijn altijd bang voor de volgende verkiezingsdag...
Evenwel heeft het voor wat het allerhoogste rechtsorgaan, het Supreme Court, betreft benoeming ook weer een nadeel natuurlijk, omdat gewone wetten in de VS kunnen worden getoetst aan de grondwet uit de 18de eeuw (?).
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 13 augustus 2016 02:10 schreef StaceySinger het volgende:

Als het Openbaar Ministerie Dassey niet binnen negentig dagen opnieuw aanklaagt, wordt Dassey vrijgelaten.
Dit gaat natuurlijk gewoon gebeuren, dus vrij is hij nog niet.
Reason is not automatic, those who deny it cannot be conquered by it, Ayn Rand
Discuseren met domme mensen verlies ik omdat ik niet genoeg ervaring heb met dom lullen.
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Defense Lawyer ... I Screwed Up Brendan Dassey's Police Interview


Defense Lawyer Len Kachinsky
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 13 augustus 2016 19:33 schreef StaceySinger het volgende:
Defense Lawyer ... I Screwed Up Brendan Dassey's Police Interview


Defense Lawyer Len Kachinsky
Nog voor ik dit gezien heb, deze man mag geen advocaat zijn wmb.
Hij is nu zelfs rechter, maar dat is gewoon on-ge-hoord wmb.
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Lol, deze lionel is het wel met me eens dus. het is echt te gek voor woorden wat er met Dassey is gebeurd dankzij die Kachinsky en zijn detective O'Kelly. Aanpakken dus. (Even verder kijken nu op 6 minuten).

Ja, "if there wouldn't have been netflix Brendan Dassey would have rotted until his death and you would never known anything about it [except for netflix], like the countless thousands others".

"I hope [Avery] wil bankrupt that county, bankrupt that state". Mee eens.

[ Bericht 5% gewijzigd door Ryan3 op 14-08-2016 00:39:37 ]
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Avery komt gewoon vrij hoor, zal nog wel even duren, maar toch.


Misschien kunnen ze dan achter de echte moordenaar(s) gaan, zijn wel wat verdachten, volgens mij.
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0s.gif Op zondag 14 augustus 2016 00:58 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:

Misschien kunnen ze dan achter de echte moordenaar(s) gaan, zijn wel wat verdachten, volgens mij.
vriendje Halbach :Y
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Geweldig nieuws!
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Ik vind dat degenen die verantwoordelijk zijn voor de veroordeling van Dassey vervolgd moeten worden door het Amerikaanse OM.
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT EASTERN DISTRICT OF WISCONSIN

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0s.gif Op zaterdag 13 augustus 2016 23:59 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:

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Nog voor ik dit gezien heb, deze man mag geen advocaat zijn wmb.
Hij is nu zelfs rechter, maar dat is gewoon on-ge-hoord wmb.
idd, had je geen moordneigingen dan kreeg je ze wel.

Hoeveel Brendan Dassey's zouden nog vastzitten -O-
Jusqu'ici tout va bien...
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Zoveel Brendans over de hele wereld maar tenzij mensen erop worden gewezen, ziet niemand ze.
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0s.gif Op zondag 14 augustus 2016 11:55 schreef Baconbus het volgende:
Zoveel Brendans over de hele wereld maar tenzij mensen erop worden gewezen, ziet niemand ze.
Die Brandon was 17 maar had het verstand van een 10 of 11 jarige. 'Als je dit verhaal vertelt, mag je naar huis en playstation spelen'.
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What Does 'Making a Murderer' Subject Brendan Dassey's Release Mean For Steven Avery?

A Lawyer Explains



Brendan Dassey, the nephew of Making a Murderer subject Steven Avery, just scored a major victory in his fight for justice. On Friday, his 2007 state-court-issued conviction and sentence of life in prison was overturned by a Wisconsin federal court. The Court ordered that Dassey, now 26 years old, be released within 90 days, unless the State of Wisconsin decides to retry him. The State also has the ability to appeal the order. How did this unlikely result happen? And what does it mean for Avery's own conviction?

Last year Netflix released the critically acclaimed documentary series, Making a Murderer, which detailed Avery’s lifelong battle with the criminal justice system. In 2003, he was exonerated by DNA evidence after spending nearly 18 years in prison for a sexual assault he did not commit. Just three years later, a local photographer went missing during her workday with Steven Avery as her last appointment. In 2007, after a turbulent trial, he was found guilty for Theresa Halbach’s rape and murder and was sentenced to life in prison. Avery maintains that he is innocent.

Early on in the trial, Avery’s learning-disabled teen nephew Brendan Dassey provided him an alibi. He was, admittedly, a slow learner with “difficulties in the ‘social aspects of communication’ such as ‘understanding and using nonverbal cues, facial expressions, eye contact, body language, tone of voice.’” In the investigation surrounding the murder, Dassey emerged as a suspected co-conspirator after a series of interrogations without a lawyer or adult present. Amid a sequence of leading questions, Dassey confessed to sexually assaulting Halbach and aiding his uncle with the murder and subsequent cover-up. He later recanted his confession; on cross examination in his trial he stated that the acts to which he had admitted “didn’t really happen” and that his confession was “made up.” Nonetheless, in 2007, he was found guilty of first-degree intentional homicide, second-degree sexual assault, and mutilation of a corpse and was sentenced to life in prison.

In recent years, Avery and Dassey have both separately launched campaigns of appeals and legal challenges; Dassey’s pointed to ineffective assistance of counsel and a coerced confession, and Avery’s alleged that the Manitowoc County Police had framed him. In 2010, Dassey unsuccessfully applied for post-conviction relief at the trial court level. His appeal of that refusal was denied by the Wisconsin Court of Appeals in 2013, and several months later, the Supreme Court of Wisconsin denied his petition for review.

After exhausting his options for relief in the State court system, on October 20, 2014, Dassey filed a writ of habeas corpus in federal court. The writ of habeas corpus is very much the “hail mary” of the criminal justice system. In order for a habeas writ to be granted, a federal court must find that either the state court’s decision was contrary to or involved an unreasonable application of federal law, or that it was based on an unreasonable determination of the facts. A court cannot grant the “writ because the federal court disagrees, or even strongly disagrees, with the state court’s decision.” Instead, “a state court’s decision must not be merely wrong, but so wrong that no reasonable judge have reached that decision.” Basically, the writ allows a federal court, in truly extreme circumstances, to overturn a verdict of a state court. Habeas writs are rarely successful; the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel estimates that 99% of all habeas corpus claims fail.

The Federal Court considered Dassey’s claims that 1) he had been denied his Sixth Amendment right to effective assistance of counsel and 2) his confession was coerced and should not have been relied upon to convict him. With reference to the first claim, Dassey pointed to his former lawyer Len Kachinsky’s apparent collusion with the prosecution and argued that that amounted to a serious conflict of interest. The Court reviewed this claim and noted that “Kachinsky’s conduct was inexcusable, both tactically and ethically,” but it did not rise to the level of a conflict of interest under the framework that Dassey’s legal team invoked.

The Court, however, did find Dassey’s favor on the second claim, acknowledging “significant doubts on the reliability” of his March 1, 2006, confession. The Court found that “the investigators exploited the absence of such an adult by repeatedly suggesting that they were looking out for his interests,” taking advantage of his “borderline to below average intellectual ability likely made him more susceptible to coercive pressure.” In short, Dassey, well aware of some of the case facts from media coverage, gave a confession detailing a murder story consistent with these facts, as a result of investigators' leading questions and statements. This was because the investigators had “led Dassey to believe that he would not be punished for telling them the incriminating details they professed to already know,” and suggested that he would be punished if he didn’t provide a story in line with their version of the truth.

The popularity and attention surrounding Making a Murderer undoubtedly has had an affect on the legal outcomes for Avery and Dassey. The widespread awareness of their story likely allowed them to obtain more experienced and distinguished legal counsel. In Avery’s case, Reddit users have been combing evidence last week, some claimed to have made a discovery that proves Avery’s innocence. Regardless of the veracity of these claims, they keep Avery in the forefront of people’s minds and increase the possibility that there will be a development in his case.

Since the pair were tried and convicted separately, Dassey's new freedom has no immediate effect on Avery’s legal battle. Avery’s conviction relied heavily on DNA evidence, which he contends was planted. The jury did rely on Dassey’s timeline of events, and it is possible that they gleaned other details from his testimony. To the extent that Dassey’s statements were used in any way to convict Avery, they could be excluded, but given the existence of stronger evidence it probably won’t matter much. Although Avery’s previous challenges were unsuccessful, his lawyer recently filed a new appeal citing due process violations. A brief in support of the appeal, detailing these violations, is due to be filed at the end of August.

The Federal court’s grant of a measure as extreme as habeas writ is nonetheless significant, and suggests a level of abject distrust in the authorities that handled the investigation of Halbach’s murder. To the extent that the investigators’ unethical and illegal behavior in coercing a confession from Dassey might be reflective of their behavior in other respects, perhaps this judgment opens the door for Avery’s absolution. Avery’s lawyer tweeted yesterday that “Brendan’s opinion shows cops made up crime story. Steven’s will show cops made up crime evidence.” This sentiment is consistent with the Federal court’s apparent mistrust of the Manitowoc County Police Department’s investigation.

It remains to be seen how Avery will invoke this decision in his case, if at all. Despite a lack of direct implications on Avery’s fate, the Federal court’s willingness to stand up to state authorities in this manner may reflect a changing tide in the muddy waters of his case. If Dassey was able to overcome such a strong presumption in the state’s favor to render his confession inadmissible, Avery too could finally find himself in a court where his case sees a similar change in trajectory.

Jessica Meiselman is an attorney based in Brooklyn.

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ZellnerLaw twitterde op zondag 14-08-2016 om 22:35:53 If you think Dasseys confession wasn't used against SA think again. https://t.co/iN2jqIRn1Q via @HuffPostCrime reageer retweet
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1s.gif Op zondag 14 augustus 2016 12:52 schreef polderturk het volgende:

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Die Brandon was 17 maar had het verstand van een 10 of 11 jarige. 'Als je dit verhaal vertelt, mag je naar huis en playstation spelen'.
Ik heb het over mensen die onterecht vastzitten maar die niet het geluk hebben dat ze dankzij een docu aandachg krijgen en zelfs vrij komen.
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  dinsdag 16 augustus 2016 @ 02:28:56 #47
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}:| Wellicht ten overvloede, maar ook hier in Nederland gebeuren dit soort dingen.

-O- Ik kan er helaas lang over vertellen.

:{w Hoewel deze over Amerikaans recht gaat, zijn de hoofdlijnen hier in Nederland van toepassing.

:{ Kijk deze, en probeer te onthouden wat hij zegt.

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Moeder Brendan Dassey viert vrijlating

De moeder van Brendan Dassey (26) uit de Netflix-documentaire Making A Murderer vierde - nog voordat zij hoorde dat hij na 9 jaar vrij zou komen - op opmerkelijke wijze zijn nieuwe vonnis...

Haar timing had beter gekund, want Brendans moeder Barb besloot minuten vóór dat ze überhaupt de rechtbank betrad een tatoeage op haar been te zetten met 'Gerechtigheid voor Brendan'. Een familievriend besloot overigens een matchende tattoo te nemen.

Barb denkt nu dat de tattoo geluk heeft gebracht voor Brendan.

Valse beloftes

Het neefje van Steven Avery uit de Netflix-documentaire Making A Murderer werd, samen met zijn oom, veroordeeld voor de moord op Teresa Halbach. Nu, na 9 jaar, komt hij mogelijk vrij.

De jongen, die 16 jaar was toen hij werd verhoord, was door de rechercheurs meerdere malen beloofd dat hij zich nergens zorgen over hoefde te maken.


http://www.telegraaf.nl/p(...)rt_vrijlating__.html
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Pornosite xHamster gaat een trip van Dassey naar Wrestlemania betalen.

http://www.usatoday.com/s(...)estlemania/89117472/
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