Volgens iemand zou Poetin niet op de groepsfoto van de top in Parijs staan omdat hij bang zou zijn om Erdogan tegen het lijf te lopen.quote:
twitter:RT_America twitterde op dinsdag 01-12-2015 om 16:28:13BREAKING: US deploys special forces to boost fight against #ISIS, ready for unilateral ops https://t.co/sxcielhGPb https://t.co/mvXU2aqkap reageer retweet
twitter:markito0171 twitterde op dinsdag 01-12-2015 om 15:37:14#Syria Rebels blow up cannon on Tel Eis in southern #Aleppo https://t.co/pUyF4VjfHwhttps://t.co/NiQMt52Vg5 https://t.co/IhJq1TRXev reageer retweet
staat hij er niet op dan?quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:29 schreef Pielemenneke het volgende:
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Volgens iemand zou Poetin niet op de groepsfoto van de top in Parijs staan omdat hij bang zou zijn om Erdogan tegen het lijf te lopen.
Het is me ontschoten wie dat beweerde.
Als dit waar is is dit genoeg reden om Jarablus binnen te vallen.twitter:taylieli twitterde op dinsdag 01-12-2015 om 16:32:39Metro/trains were stopped. Passangers on the railways now. No word on nature/cause of the explosion. https://t.co/eWVNfFRM1I reageer retweet
quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:29 schreef Pielemenneke het volgende:
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Volgens iemand zou Poetin niet op de groepsfoto van de top in Parijs staan omdat hij bang zou zijn om Erdogan tegen het lijf te lopen.
Het is me ontschoten wie dat beweerde.
obamaquote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:33 schreef Atak het volgende:
Poetin krijgt een waarschuwing van Obama:
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)onference/index.html
Obama heeft vernomen dat de situatie in Syrië niet is veranderd sinds de komst van de Russen. Dat zou er dus op duiden dat de bemoeienis van Russische zijde weinig zin heeft.quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:33 schreef Atak het volgende:
Poetin krijgt een waarschuwing van Obama:
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)onference/index.html
"Breekt" wel lekker de dag zo:twitter:markito0171 twitterde op dinsdag 01-12-2015 om 15:37:14#Syria Rebels blow up cannon on Tel Eis in southern #Aleppo https://t.co/pUyF4VjfHwhttps://t.co/NiQMt52Vg5 https://t.co/IhJq1TRXev reageer retweet
Klopt geen ene kut vanquote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:38 schreef DUTCHKO het volgende:
Volgens mij is dit de huidige situatie.
Als dit klopt dan worden OF de Turkmanen tussen 2 molenstenen vermalen OF de Turkmanen gaan samen met de Islamisten.
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twitter:Conflicts twitterde op dinsdag 01-12-2015 om 16:40:16BREAKING: Turkish media report large explosion in Istanbul. More information when available. https://t.co/htGtbeDOMs reageer retweet
Bij het Bayrampasa metro station.quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:44 schreef theNull het volgende:
twitter:Conflicts twitterde op dinsdag 01-12-2015 om 16:40:16BREAKING: Turkish media report large explosion in Istanbul. More information when available. https://t.co/htGtbeDOMs reageer retweet
Let's hit at it again.quote:
Dat is wat er gebeurd wanneer je je grenzen openzet voor doorgedraaide Arabieren en ander tuig.quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:46 schreef Triggershot het volgende:
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Let's hit at it again.
Geverifieerd, 1 dode, 1 gewonde vooralsnog, explosie in in buurt van metro.
Mwuah, Turkije heeft ook een rijke historie met aanslagen van lokaal tuig.quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:47 schreef Intellectueel het volgende:
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Dat is wat er gebeurd wanneer je je grenzen openzet voor doorgedraaide Arabieren en ander tuig.
Toch, de recentelijke aanslagen gepleegd door IS lijken niets op de aanslagen die lokale groeperingen plegen.quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:47 schreef Triggershot het volgende:
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Mwuah, Turkije heeft ook een rijke historie met aanslagen van lokaal tuig.
Gewoon Turkse IS sympathisanten, dus gewoon lokaal tuig eigenlijk.quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:49 schreef Intellectueel het volgende:
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Toch, de recentelijke aanslagen gepleegd door IS lijken niets op de aanslagen die lokale groeperingen plegen.
Lokale tuig die geïnspireerd en geleid worden door doorgedraaide Arabieren.quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:51 schreef Triggershot het volgende:
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Gewoon Turkse IS sympathisanten, dus gewoon lokaal tuig eigenlijk.
Hè Hè Hè, zelfmoordoperaties hebben we gewoon van jullie afgekeken hè!quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:55 schreef Intellectueel het volgende:
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Lokale tuig die geïnspireerd en geleid worden door doorgedraaide Arabieren.
Jezelf vrijwillig met een granaat onder een tank gooien is iets dan jezelf opblazen op een drukke markt of metrostation, zoals soennieten het doen.quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:57 schreef Triggershot het volgende:
Hè Hè Hè, zelfmoordoperaties hebben we gewoon van jullie afgekeken hè!
We spreken dan ook geen farsi. Krijg je allemaal misverstanden van. Of stiekem geïnspireerd door de Pkk.quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:59 schreef Intellectueel het volgende:
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Jezelf vrijwillig met een granaat onder een tank gooien is iets dan jezelf opblazen op een drukke markt of metrostation, zoals soennieten het doen.
Die in de OP klopt wel redelijk volgens mij.quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:52 schreef DUTCHKO het volgende:
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Dan kun je ook een correcte situatie tekening leveren.
We wachten wel ff....
twitter:yurybarmin twitterde op dinsdag 01-12-2015 om 14:03:12BOOM: 10 fighter jets and 15 attack helicopters belonging to Russia already deployed at the Shayrat airport near Homs. reageer retweet
Mooie analyse mbt de Turkmenen en de hypocrisie van Turkije wanneer het aankomt op benoemen van groeperingen als terroristisch.quote:The Syrian army’s gradual expansion of its operational area with Russian support and the United States' beefing up of the Kurdish-Arab-Syriac coalition (aka the Syrian Democratic Forces) are further restricting Turkey’s options in Syria.
Turkey has had problems supporting Salafi jihadists because of international reactions that shifted its calculations about Turkmens since the summer.
In response to the plans by the Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) to move westward and expel the Islamic State from Jarablus, Turkey has declared the Euphrates River a red line for the Kurds. Once it is cleared of IS, Turkey is planning to use the Turkmens to control both these areas and the Azez-Aleppo line, which is being considered for a buffer zone. Such plans naturally upped the value of the Turkmen card. Turkey, unable to prevent the Russian bombing against the groups supported by the West and the Gulf, has pushed back with the Turkmens.
But the Russians ignored the Turkish moves and expanded their operations to Turkmen Mountain.
Once it assumes the control of Turkmen Mountain with Russian air support, the Syrian army will score several significant points:
It will be easier for the Syrian army to enter Idlib and Jisr al-Shughur, which are now being controlled by the Army of Conquest, with its key components of Jabhat al-Nusra and Ahrar al-Sham supported by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
Logistics lines to opposition forces in the region will be severed. Smuggling routes from Yayladag-Hatay in Turkey have served as the main supply routes for the opposition at Bayirbucak for the past four years.
The opposition’s hope of reaching the Mediterranean will remain a dream.
Attacks on Latakia, where the Russians have deployed, will end when Turkmen Mountain is lost.
Once it takes control of Turkmen Mountain, the Syrian army will point its guns at the protected zone envisaged by Turkey.
Nearby Jabal Akrad (Kurdish Mountain) is as important as Turkmen Mountain. Jabal Akrad is currently controlled by Jabhat al-Nusra, Ahrar al-Sham and Ansar al-Sham, which frequently launch joint operations with the Turkmens.
Although the technical reason for shooting down the Russian plane was an airspace violation, the real reason is the risk of losing the logistical corridor — the area now controlled by the opposition groups — and the increasing possibility of losing control of the entire liberated zone.
Over the past few weeks the Syrian army has recaptured Qatil Maaf, Firinlik, Acisu and Kizildag north of Turkmen Mountain and Gimam, Sawanli, Zuwaik, Deir Khan and Toros to its south. Kizildag changed hands several times. If the regime can capture Kizildag, it will be easy for it to control 17 Turkmen villages in the area.
Turkey attaches strategic importance to dominating this area and is counting on Turkmens to confront IS in rural Aleppo. The Turkmens’ capture of Harcele and Delha was the result of this plan.
But many wonder how strong Ankara’s Turkmen card is and how effective it will be. A little background may help in understanding the situation:
When the Syrian uprising began in 2011, the Syrian Turkmens began organizing in the civilian and military spheres with Turkey’s support. Until then, Turkmens, who generally lived in villages and worked in agriculture, were not a politicized and organized community. Turkmens in the villages of Homs, Latakia, Damascus, Raqqa, Hama, Idlib and Daraa did not have an urban base, in contrast to the Kurds, who controlled Qamishli. It was the Turkmens who had settled in Turkey and pioneered post-2011 efforts to create a political movement with a diaspora flavor. The first organization that emerged in 2011 was the Syrian Turkmen Movement, which tried to get the Turkmens to take to the streets to protest the regime. Next, 180 Turkmens living in Turkey established the Union of Syria Turkmens. These two organizations united in November 2011 under the Syrian Turkmen Mass (STK) to boost their representation capacity. But they eventually split and the Democratic Turkmen Movement of Syria (SDTH) was set up in March 2012.
The SDTH has been more active in Aleppo, while the STK focuses on Bayirbucak. STK activities are run from offices in Turkish border provinces. Their activities in Latakia are being directed from Yayladag, Raqqa from Akcakale and Aleppo from Gaziantep. Under the strong influence of Turkey, the Syrian National Council allotted 16 seats to Turkmens while the Syrian National Coalition offered them three seats.
In addition to the two main Turkmen groups, some influential Turkmens living in Turkey formed the Syrian Turkmens Platform. The platform working under the tutelage of the Turkish Foreign Ministry pioneered the creation of the Syrian Turkmen Assembly that sought to unify the Turkmens.
On Dec. 15, 2012, the then-speaker of Turkey’s parliament, Cemil Cicek, and then-Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu attended the unification meeting in Istanbul. The Turkmen Assembly was officially established in a March 2013 meeting attended by then-Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Davutoglu. In the second session of the assembly, held in Ankara May 9-10, 2014, a 42-person legislative assembly and 13-person executive council were elected from among some 350 delegates. The Turkish parliament recognized the Turkmen Assembly as the legitimate representative of Turkmens.
As for the military activities of the Turkmens, many armed units were set up after 2012. Turkmen units participated in the Anfal operation on March 21, 2014, by jihadist groups to capture the Armenian towns of Kasab and Samra.
In operations on Aug. 4-19, 2013, Alevi villages were raided and some 200 civilians were killed. IS and Jabhat al-Nusra also joined Turkmens in these attacks. Meanwhile, there was regular rocket fire from Turkmen Mountain toward Latakia.
Turkmens who were suspected of being the “legacy of the Ottomans” when Syria was first created threw themselves into the ring of fire by participating in the armed resistance under the guidance of Turkey.
Apart from some who came to Turkey to study and then to settle down, Turkmens never had strong political ties with Turkey. The Turkish government was more concerned with the Turkmens of Kirkuk and Mosul in Iraq than with the Syrian Turkmens. But after abandoning Iraqi Turkmens to IS, Turkey decided that Syrian Turkmens could be useful and set up close ties with the Turkmens concentrated in the Baba Amr neighborhood of Homs, considered the capital of the revolution.
Should the Syrian army impose its control on the region, Syrian Turkmens will face the danger of being identified as Turkey's “fifth column,” with all that label implies. Moreover, Turkey’s game plan of placing Turkmens as a barrier to the Kurdish YPG is also planting the seeds of enmity between the Kurds and Turkmens.
Als je de Turkmenen vergelijkt met de PKK dan ben je inderdaad een hopeloos geval van hypocrisie.quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 17:53 schreef primakov het volgende:
Turkey gambles on the Turkmens
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Mooie analyse mbt de Turkmenen en de hypocrisie van Turkije wanneer het aankomt op benoemen van groeperingen als terroristisch.
Nee, je moet de map uit de OP hebben, die wordt om de paar dagen bijgewerkt.quote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:38 schreef DUTCHKO het volgende:
Volgens mij is dit de huidige situatie.
Als dit klopt dan worden OF de Turkmanen tussen 2 molenstenen vermalen OF de Turkmanen gaan samen met de Islamisten.
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Atak, de Erdogan-ass-worshipper natuurlijkquote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 16:29 schreef Pielemenneke het volgende:
Volgens iemand zou Poetin niet op de groepsfoto van de top in Parijs staan omdat hij bang zou zijn om Erdogan tegen het lijf te lopen.
Het is me ontschoten wie dat beweerde.
http://www.aljazeera.com/(...)151201063413183.htmlquote:Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's president, has said he would be ready to quit office if allegations by his Russian counterpart that Turkey traded oil with the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) group were proved.
Erdogan's comments on Monday came after Vladimir Putin accused Turkey of shooting down the Russian Su-24 warplane last week to protect supplies of oil from ISIL to Turkey.
Turkey has already rejected the accusation.
"I will say something very strong here," Erdogan was quoted as saying by the state-run Anadolu news agency on the sidelines of the UN climate talks near Paris, which Putin is also attending.
"If such a thing is proven, the nobility of our nation would require that I would not stay in office."
Challenging Putin, who has refused to meet Erdogan after the November 24 incident in Yamadi, in Syria's Latakia province, Erdogan said: "And I tell Mr Putin: Would you stay in that office? I say this clearly."
In the interview, Erdogan said: "Let's remain patient and let's not act emotionally."
He maintained that Turkey obtained all its oil and gas imports "through the legal path".
"We are not dishonest so as to do this kind of exchange with terrorist groups," he said.
"Everyone needs to know this."
After the Su-24 was downed by Turkish F-16 fighter jets for alleged violation of Turkish airspace, Putin accused the Turks of being "accomplices of terrorists" and said oil from ISIL territory was being exported through Turkey.
Hij blijft maar gewond rakenquote:Op dinsdag 1 december 2015 19:02 schreef firefly3 het volgende:
Soleimanderi gewond geraakt volgens MEK:
Anne Bayefsky – @AnneBayefsky
Report: Evil #Iran's Quds Force chief Qassem Soleimani"critically wounded." http://bit.ly/1HAvrdz
https://mobile.twitter.com/AnneBayefsky/status/671399539551502336
http://freebeacon.com/nat(...)to-qassem-soleimani/
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