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Opiniestuk uit RT van Finian Cunningham, ingekort door mij en voorzien van extra foto's.
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/331648-saudi-invasion-syria-bluff/
Cunningham, for over 20 years he worked as an editor and writer in major news media organizations, including The Mirror, Irish Times and Independent. Now a freelance journalist based in East Africa, his columns appear on RT, Sputnik, Strategic Culture Foundation and Press TV.
Saudi invasion of Syria: The bluff that could ignite World War III
The Saudi plan to send ground troops into Syria appears to be just a ruse. But this is precisely the kind of reckless saber-rattling that could ignite an all-out war, one that could embroil the United States and Russia. Saudi rulers have reportedly amassed a 150,000-strong army to invade Syria on the alleged pretext “to fight against terrorism” and to defeat the so-called Islamic State. Saudi officials told CNN that in addition to Saudi troops there are ground forces from Egypt, Turkey, Sudan, Morocco, Jordan, Qatar, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates.
Syria’s Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem gave a categorical response, saying the move would be seen as an act of aggression and that any invasion force regardless of its stated reasons for entering Syria will be sent back in “wooden coffins”.
Nevertheless, US President Barack Obama has welcomed the Saudi plan to intervene in Syria.
Obama’s Defense Secretary Ashton Carter is this week due to meet in Brussels with counterparts from the US-led so-called “anti-terror” coalition to make a decision on the whether to activate the Saudi plan. A Saudi military spokesman has already said that if the US-led coalition gives its consent then his country will proceed with the intervention.
In recent weeks, Carter and other senior US officials, including Vice President Joe Biden, have been calling for increased regional Arab military action against ISIS in Syria and Iraq.
Carter and Biden have also said the US is prepared to send in its own ground troops en masse if the Geneva peace talks collapse.
Now, those talks appear to be floundering. So, does that mean that a large-scale invasion of US-led foreign armies in Syria is on the way?
Let’s step back a moment and assess what is really going on. The Saudi warning – or more accurately “threat” – of military intervention in Syria is not the first time that this has been adverted to. Back in mid-December, when Riyadh announced the formation of a 34-Islamic nation alliance to “fight terrorism”, the Saudis said that the military alliance reserved the right to invade any country where there was deemed to be a terror threat – including Syria.
Another factor is that the House of Saud is not pleased with US-led diplomatic efforts on Syria.
US Secretary of State John Kerry’s bustling to organize the Geneva negotiations – supposedly to find a peace settlement to the five-year conflict – is seen by the Saudis as giving too many concessions to the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad and his foreign allies, Russia, Iran and Lebanon’s Hezbollah.
The Geneva talks – which came unstuck last week – can be arguably assessed as not a genuine internal Syria process to resolve the war – but rather they are a cynical political attempt by Washington and its allies to undermine the Syrian government for their long-held objective of regime change.
The inclusion among the political opposition at Geneva of Al Qaeda-linked militants, Jaish al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham, with Western backing, illustrates the ulterior purpose.
In other words, the Geneva diplomacy, mounted in large part by Kerry, was really aimed at halting the blistering Russian aerial campaign. The four-month intervention ordered by Russian President Vladimir Putin has turned the tide of the entire Syrian war, allowing the Syrian Arab Army to win back strategically important terrain.
That the Russian military operations have not stopped, indeed have stepped up, has caused much consternation in Washington and its allies.
Part of this frustrated reaction are the threats from Saudi Arabia, Turkey and other regional regimes – with US tacit approval – to go-ahead with a direct military intervention.
Thus, while a military gambit is decidedly unrealistic, the real danger is that the Saudi rulers and their American patrons have become so unhinged from reality that they could miscalculate and go into Syria.
That would be like a spark in a powder keg.
It will be seen as an act of war on Syria and its allies, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah. The US would inevitably be drawn fully into the spiral of a world war.
History has illustrated that wars are often the result not of a single, willful decision – but instead as the result of an ever-quickening process of folly.
Syria is just one potential cataclysm.
The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door TomLuny op 09-02-2016 10:48:39 ]
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/331648-saudi-invasion-syria-bluff/
Cunningham, for over 20 years he worked as an editor and writer in major news media organizations, including The Mirror, Irish Times and Independent. Now a freelance journalist based in East Africa, his columns appear on RT, Sputnik, Strategic Culture Foundation and Press TV.
Saudi invasion of Syria: The bluff that could ignite World War III
The Saudi plan to send ground troops into Syria appears to be just a ruse. But this is precisely the kind of reckless saber-rattling that could ignite an all-out war, one that could embroil the United States and Russia. Saudi rulers have reportedly amassed a 150,000-strong army to invade Syria on the alleged pretext “to fight against terrorism” and to defeat the so-called Islamic State. Saudi officials told CNN that in addition to Saudi troops there are ground forces from Egypt, Turkey, Sudan, Morocco, Jordan, Qatar, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates.
Syria’s Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem gave a categorical response, saying the move would be seen as an act of aggression and that any invasion force regardless of its stated reasons for entering Syria will be sent back in “wooden coffins”.
Nevertheless, US President Barack Obama has welcomed the Saudi plan to intervene in Syria.
Obama’s Defense Secretary Ashton Carter is this week due to meet in Brussels with counterparts from the US-led so-called “anti-terror” coalition to make a decision on the whether to activate the Saudi plan. A Saudi military spokesman has already said that if the US-led coalition gives its consent then his country will proceed with the intervention.
In recent weeks, Carter and other senior US officials, including Vice President Joe Biden, have been calling for increased regional Arab military action against ISIS in Syria and Iraq.
Carter and Biden have also said the US is prepared to send in its own ground troops en masse if the Geneva peace talks collapse.
Now, those talks appear to be floundering. So, does that mean that a large-scale invasion of US-led foreign armies in Syria is on the way?
Let’s step back a moment and assess what is really going on. The Saudi warning – or more accurately “threat” – of military intervention in Syria is not the first time that this has been adverted to. Back in mid-December, when Riyadh announced the formation of a 34-Islamic nation alliance to “fight terrorism”, the Saudis said that the military alliance reserved the right to invade any country where there was deemed to be a terror threat – including Syria.
Another factor is that the House of Saud is not pleased with US-led diplomatic efforts on Syria.
US Secretary of State John Kerry’s bustling to organize the Geneva negotiations – supposedly to find a peace settlement to the five-year conflict – is seen by the Saudis as giving too many concessions to the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad and his foreign allies, Russia, Iran and Lebanon’s Hezbollah.
The Geneva talks – which came unstuck last week – can be arguably assessed as not a genuine internal Syria process to resolve the war – but rather they are a cynical political attempt by Washington and its allies to undermine the Syrian government for their long-held objective of regime change.
The inclusion among the political opposition at Geneva of Al Qaeda-linked militants, Jaish al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham, with Western backing, illustrates the ulterior purpose.
In other words, the Geneva diplomacy, mounted in large part by Kerry, was really aimed at halting the blistering Russian aerial campaign. The four-month intervention ordered by Russian President Vladimir Putin has turned the tide of the entire Syrian war, allowing the Syrian Arab Army to win back strategically important terrain.
That the Russian military operations have not stopped, indeed have stepped up, has caused much consternation in Washington and its allies.
Part of this frustrated reaction are the threats from Saudi Arabia, Turkey and other regional regimes – with US tacit approval – to go-ahead with a direct military intervention.
Thus, while a military gambit is decidedly unrealistic, the real danger is that the Saudi rulers and their American patrons have become so unhinged from reality that they could miscalculate and go into Syria.
That would be like a spark in a powder keg.
It will be seen as an act of war on Syria and its allies, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah. The US would inevitably be drawn fully into the spiral of a world war.
History has illustrated that wars are often the result not of a single, willful decision – but instead as the result of an ever-quickening process of folly.
Syria is just one potential cataclysm.
The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door TomLuny op 09-02-2016 10:48:39 ]
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Oplopende spanningen rondom de Oekraïene hoek :
https://www.rt.com/news/331973-finland-us-f15-drills/
The American military is sending several F-15 fighter jets to Finland for joint exercises over Finland scheduled for May.
The Nordic country has never hosted the US Air Force before.
The exercises in Eastern Finland are planned for May, but Sweden and Norway could also join in.
Compared to other US exercises, this will be a small event.
However, the grounds for inviting the American military for joint drills appeared identical to those recently voiced by NATO member states in Eastern Europe. Ilkka Kanerva, the chairperson of the Parliamentary Defense Committee, pointed a finger at the “increased activity of Russia.”
While still a “neutral” state, Finland has been recently sending signals it is now more open to NATO membership – an idea that triggered warnings of “consequences” for good-neighborly Russian-Finnish relations from Moscow.
Russia has stated it considers NATO’s expansion to the east an unfriendly policy and has been warning states tempted to join the military bloc over “losing sovereignty” in foreign policy decisions as a result.
Referring to the NATO membership, Finland’s Foreign Minister Timo Soini told The Baltic Times in January “this government now, which I am part of, says that we keep our options open.”
However, Soini was quick to add that the government does not foresee such a move being made in the near future, as “the majority [of Finns] are opposing NATO membership.”
Russia is one of Finland’s major partners in trade, and while food trade has recently suffered a blow due to the EU-Russian tit-for-tat sanctions, there has been a new development in the energy sector.
In January, Russian state energy corporation Rosatom launched the construction of a nuclear power plant in northern Finland.
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Syrië :
Syria invasion plan? Turkey will defend its 'Aleppo brothers,' says PM Davutoglu
Video persconferentie John Kirby (tot minuut 02:45 ; aan het eind nog Churkin) :
https://www.rt.com/news/331968-turkey-syria-intervention-aleppo/
wel vreemd eigenlijk dat Turkije z'n 'Aleppo broeders' dan voor de deur laat staan verkleumen.
[ Bericht 5% gewijzigd door TomLuny op 10-02-2016 11:43:11 ]
Oplopende spanningen rondom de Oekraïene hoek :
https://www.rt.com/news/331973-finland-us-f15-drills/
The American military is sending several F-15 fighter jets to Finland for joint exercises over Finland scheduled for May.
The Nordic country has never hosted the US Air Force before.
The exercises in Eastern Finland are planned for May, but Sweden and Norway could also join in.
Compared to other US exercises, this will be a small event.
However, the grounds for inviting the American military for joint drills appeared identical to those recently voiced by NATO member states in Eastern Europe. Ilkka Kanerva, the chairperson of the Parliamentary Defense Committee, pointed a finger at the “increased activity of Russia.”
While still a “neutral” state, Finland has been recently sending signals it is now more open to NATO membership – an idea that triggered warnings of “consequences” for good-neighborly Russian-Finnish relations from Moscow.
Russia has stated it considers NATO’s expansion to the east an unfriendly policy and has been warning states tempted to join the military bloc over “losing sovereignty” in foreign policy decisions as a result.
Referring to the NATO membership, Finland’s Foreign Minister Timo Soini told The Baltic Times in January “this government now, which I am part of, says that we keep our options open.”
However, Soini was quick to add that the government does not foresee such a move being made in the near future, as “the majority [of Finns] are opposing NATO membership.”
Russia is one of Finland’s major partners in trade, and while food trade has recently suffered a blow due to the EU-Russian tit-for-tat sanctions, there has been a new development in the energy sector.
In January, Russian state energy corporation Rosatom launched the construction of a nuclear power plant in northern Finland.
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Syrië :
Syria invasion plan? Turkey will defend its 'Aleppo brothers,' says PM Davutoglu
Video persconferentie John Kirby (tot minuut 02:45 ; aan het eind nog Churkin) :
https://www.rt.com/news/331968-turkey-syria-intervention-aleppo/
wel vreemd eigenlijk dat Turkije z'n 'Aleppo broeders' dan voor de deur laat staan verkleumen.
[ Bericht 5% gewijzigd door TomLuny op 10-02-2016 11:43:11 ]
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Today's Zaman (wiki)
Erdoğan slams US for support for Syrian PYD
Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has slammed the US for its unwavering support for the Syrian Democratic Union Party (PYD), a major Kurdish political party in Syria, and its armed wing, saying that Washington's inability to see the group's true nature had turned the region into a "sea of blood."
In yet another strong rebuke of Turkey's NATO ally, Erdoğan expressed fury over the US's continued, firm backing of the PYD, and pushed the US to choose between Turkey and the PYD.
"Are you on our side or the side of the terrorist PYD and PKK [Kurdistan Workers' Party] organization?" Erdogan said in a speech in Ankara to provincial officials, referring to Washington's backing of the PYD against the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).
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RT lacht zich rot, heeft er een comedie van gemaakt vanaf minuut 3 in de video en stelt de vraag ''nog steeds BFF?''
(best friends forever)
Maar het begint professioneel met een Pentagon persconferentie met Mark Toner (tot minuut 3)
Still BFF? Turkey’s Erdogan attacks US over support of Kurds, blames it for Syrian ‘sea of blood’
Hier een korte versie van de video met Erdogan in beeld :
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NOS houdt zich wat dit betreft nog een beetje op de vlakte hoewel deze botsing tussen Navo-bondgenoten al enkele dagen speelt, minstens vanaf 8 februari en dat was zo te zien hun laatste bericht daarover.
Erdogan wil dat VS breekt met Syrische Koerden
Zij melden wel andere zeer ernstige spanningen als alleen deze ''zee van bloed'' :
Davutoglu: risico op NAVO-confrontatie met Rusland
Op de vraag van NOS-correspondent Lucas Waagmeester of we getuige zijn van de opbouw naar zo'n treffen (confrontatie NAVO/Rusland), antwoordde Davutoglu dat het gevaar daarop reëel is. Rusland speelt gevaarlijk spel, zei hij. Hij verwees in dat verband naar het Russische optreden in Georgië en Oekraïne.
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De Volkskrant daarentegen laat de woedende uitbarsting van Erdogan niet onvermeld :
Erdogan: VS maken van Syrië 'een zee van bloed'
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Ongerelateerd maar misschien veelzeggend, US-Generaal James Martin zakt in elkaar over problemen JSF.
https://www.rt.com/usa/332106-james-martin-pentagon-faint/
Maj. Gen. James F. Martin, is Deputy Assistant Secretary for Budget, Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Financial Management and Comptroller, the Pentagon, Washington, D.C.
General Martin is responsible for planning and directing the formulation of the Air Force's budgets totaling more than $119 billion annually.
He leads a staff of military and civilian financial managers who develop, integrate, justify and defend Air Force resource requests to the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the Office of Management and Budget, and Congress. He manages and executes funding that supports military operations and Air Force priorities at the direction of the Secretary of Defense and Congress.
http://www.af.mil/AboutUs(...)mes-f-martin-jr.aspx
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Wel gerelateerd en potentiële bron voor conflict met significante belangen op het spel :
Russia submits revised claims for extending Arctic shelf to UN
Russia is trying to prove that these ranges are actually a continuation of the Russian continental shelf. If the UN rules in its favor, Moscow will be entitled to the exclusive rights to develop vast resources, the volume of which, according to the Ministry of Natural Resources, may reach five billion tons of untapped oil and natural gas reserves - worth as much as $30 trillion.
[...]
In addition, there are unresolved issues of maritime delimitation between Russia and Canada in the areas of Makarov Basin and Mendeleev Rise.
[...]
"I think you have to see this as part of a wider global issue. The fact is that the Russians are being demonized right now. I think you have to see this Arctic push back by the United States as part of that whole process, which is to try and isolate Russia internationally because Russia represents an independent force in the world and the United States does not like that," Hallinan told RT.
Washington is closely watching Moscow's activity in the Arctic region, according to US Secretary of State John Kerry.
"Economic riches tend to attract military interest as nations seek to ensure their own rights are protected. And we know, because we track it, that these countries - like Russia, China, and others - are active in the Arctic," Kerry said.
Meanwhile, the director of the US Defense Intelligence Agency said that "containing Russia's presence in the Arctic is crucial to the interests of the US." Lieutenant General Vincent Stewart was testifying on Tuesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee,providing an annual assessment of top global threats.
"The Russians intend to increase their ability to control the Arctic regions. They have built airbases, they are building missile defense capability - both costal and naval missile defense capability and they are doing that for economic and military reasons," Stewart said. "In the absence of something that counters that, they will continue to expand, so I think it is imperative that we have the willingness and the ability to be able to push back their control or dominance of the Arctic region."
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Terug naar Syrië, het zwarte pieten spel gaat verder :
Two US Air Force A-10 Thunderbolt II assault warplanes carried out airstrikes on the city of Aleppo on Wednesday, destroying nine facilities, Russia's Defense Ministry reported. The same day, the Pentagon accused Moscow of bombing two Aleppo hospitals, while there were no Russian flights over the city.
Also on Wednesday, Konashenkov recalled, the Pentagon's spokesman, Colonel Steven Warren claimed that Russian warplanes allegedly bombed two hospitals in Aleppo.
"In his words, some 50,000 Syrian have been allegedly deprived of vital services," Konashenkov said, pointing out that Warren forgot to mention either hospitals' coordinates, or the time of the airstrikes, or sources of information. "Absolutely nothing."
"No Russian warplanes carried out airstrikes in Aleppo city area yesterday. The nearest target engaged was over 20 kilometers away from the city," Konashenkov stressed, adding that on the contrary, airplanes from the US-led anti-ISIS coalition were active over Alepo, "both aircrafts and UAVs."
Davutoglu noemt luchtaanvallen Aleppo een etnische zuivering
[ Bericht 10% gewijzigd door TomLuny op 11-02-2016 11:06:38 ]
Erdoğan slams US for support for Syrian PYD
Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has slammed the US for its unwavering support for the Syrian Democratic Union Party (PYD), a major Kurdish political party in Syria, and its armed wing, saying that Washington's inability to see the group's true nature had turned the region into a "sea of blood."
In yet another strong rebuke of Turkey's NATO ally, Erdoğan expressed fury over the US's continued, firm backing of the PYD, and pushed the US to choose between Turkey and the PYD.
"Are you on our side or the side of the terrorist PYD and PKK [Kurdistan Workers' Party] organization?" Erdogan said in a speech in Ankara to provincial officials, referring to Washington's backing of the PYD against the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).
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RT lacht zich rot, heeft er een comedie van gemaakt vanaf minuut 3 in de video en stelt de vraag ''nog steeds BFF?''
(best friends forever)
Maar het begint professioneel met een Pentagon persconferentie met Mark Toner (tot minuut 3)
Still BFF? Turkey’s Erdogan attacks US over support of Kurds, blames it for Syrian ‘sea of blood’
Hier een korte versie van de video met Erdogan in beeld :
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NOS houdt zich wat dit betreft nog een beetje op de vlakte hoewel deze botsing tussen Navo-bondgenoten al enkele dagen speelt, minstens vanaf 8 februari en dat was zo te zien hun laatste bericht daarover.
Erdogan wil dat VS breekt met Syrische Koerden
Zij melden wel andere zeer ernstige spanningen als alleen deze ''zee van bloed'' :
Davutoglu: risico op NAVO-confrontatie met Rusland
Op de vraag van NOS-correspondent Lucas Waagmeester of we getuige zijn van de opbouw naar zo'n treffen (confrontatie NAVO/Rusland), antwoordde Davutoglu dat het gevaar daarop reëel is. Rusland speelt gevaarlijk spel, zei hij. Hij verwees in dat verband naar het Russische optreden in Georgië en Oekraïne.
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De Volkskrant daarentegen laat de woedende uitbarsting van Erdogan niet onvermeld :
Erdogan: VS maken van Syrië 'een zee van bloed'
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Ongerelateerd maar misschien veelzeggend, US-Generaal James Martin zakt in elkaar over problemen JSF.
https://www.rt.com/usa/332106-james-martin-pentagon-faint/
Maj. Gen. James F. Martin, is Deputy Assistant Secretary for Budget, Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Financial Management and Comptroller, the Pentagon, Washington, D.C.
General Martin is responsible for planning and directing the formulation of the Air Force's budgets totaling more than $119 billion annually.
He leads a staff of military and civilian financial managers who develop, integrate, justify and defend Air Force resource requests to the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the Office of Management and Budget, and Congress. He manages and executes funding that supports military operations and Air Force priorities at the direction of the Secretary of Defense and Congress.
http://www.af.mil/AboutUs(...)mes-f-martin-jr.aspx
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Wel gerelateerd en potentiële bron voor conflict met significante belangen op het spel :
Russia submits revised claims for extending Arctic shelf to UN
Russia is trying to prove that these ranges are actually a continuation of the Russian continental shelf. If the UN rules in its favor, Moscow will be entitled to the exclusive rights to develop vast resources, the volume of which, according to the Ministry of Natural Resources, may reach five billion tons of untapped oil and natural gas reserves - worth as much as $30 trillion.
[...]
In addition, there are unresolved issues of maritime delimitation between Russia and Canada in the areas of Makarov Basin and Mendeleev Rise.
[...]
"I think you have to see this as part of a wider global issue. The fact is that the Russians are being demonized right now. I think you have to see this Arctic push back by the United States as part of that whole process, which is to try and isolate Russia internationally because Russia represents an independent force in the world and the United States does not like that," Hallinan told RT.
Washington is closely watching Moscow's activity in the Arctic region, according to US Secretary of State John Kerry.
"Economic riches tend to attract military interest as nations seek to ensure their own rights are protected. And we know, because we track it, that these countries - like Russia, China, and others - are active in the Arctic," Kerry said.
Meanwhile, the director of the US Defense Intelligence Agency said that "containing Russia's presence in the Arctic is crucial to the interests of the US." Lieutenant General Vincent Stewart was testifying on Tuesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee,providing an annual assessment of top global threats.
"The Russians intend to increase their ability to control the Arctic regions. They have built airbases, they are building missile defense capability - both costal and naval missile defense capability and they are doing that for economic and military reasons," Stewart said. "In the absence of something that counters that, they will continue to expand, so I think it is imperative that we have the willingness and the ability to be able to push back their control or dominance of the Arctic region."
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Terug naar Syrië, het zwarte pieten spel gaat verder :
Two US Air Force A-10 Thunderbolt II assault warplanes carried out airstrikes on the city of Aleppo on Wednesday, destroying nine facilities, Russia's Defense Ministry reported. The same day, the Pentagon accused Moscow of bombing two Aleppo hospitals, while there were no Russian flights over the city.
Also on Wednesday, Konashenkov recalled, the Pentagon's spokesman, Colonel Steven Warren claimed that Russian warplanes allegedly bombed two hospitals in Aleppo.
"In his words, some 50,000 Syrian have been allegedly deprived of vital services," Konashenkov said, pointing out that Warren forgot to mention either hospitals' coordinates, or the time of the airstrikes, or sources of information. "Absolutely nothing."
"No Russian warplanes carried out airstrikes in Aleppo city area yesterday. The nearest target engaged was over 20 kilometers away from the city," Konashenkov stressed, adding that on the contrary, airplanes from the US-led anti-ISIS coalition were active over Alepo, "both aircrafts and UAVs."
Davutoglu noemt luchtaanvallen Aleppo een etnische zuivering
[ Bericht 10% gewijzigd door TomLuny op 11-02-2016 11:06:38 ]
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Ingekort RT-artikel met extra links en foto's :
Russian PM Dmitry Medvedev told German media that sending foreign troops into Syria could unleash “yet another war on Earth.”
* TomLuny https://global.handelsbla(...)rns-of-new-world-war
The warning follows increasingly aggressive statements made by Saudi Arabia and Turkey amid Bashar Assad’s gains in Aleppo. The PM was commenting on recent statements from Saudi Arabia claiming that it was ready to send ground troops to Syria, should Washington lead the way.
“The Americans and our Arab partners must think well: do they want a permanent war? Do they think they can really quickly win it? It is impossible, especially in the Arab world. Everyone is fighting against everyone there,” Medvedev added.
The interview was published on the eve of the International Syria Support Group meeting in Munich, where the cessation of hostilities in Syria became a top item on the agenda.
On the Syrian battlefield, Turkey openly supports anti-Assad rebel groups. The latest statement by Turkish PM Ahmet Davutoglu, who pledged to return a “historical debt” to Turkey’s “Aleppo brothers,” gave new rise to speculations over a looming Turkish ground invasion of Syria.
The situation has prompted fears of a possible military clash between world powers
backing different sides of the Syrian conflict, with hopes that the Munich talks could de-escalate the deadlock.
Meanwhile, the US is seeking to boost the anti-Islamic State coalition it is heading in Iraq and Syria by officially drawing in NATO as a member, AFP reported.
* TomLuny https://www.yahoo.com/new(...)on-us-180204186.html
US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter has been lobbying for greater participation by NATO in the war on Islamic State, giving a dramatic Thursday speech on “a new stage in the coalition campaign to defeat ISIL” and adding the countries would then be able “look back after victory and remember who participated in the fight.”
* TomLuny http://www.defense.gov/Ne(...)-stage-in-isil-fight
Defense Secretary Ash Carter, left, greets NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg as they meet at NATO headquarters in Brussels, Feb. 10, 2016, to discuss matters of mutual importance. DoD photo by Air Force Senior Master Sgt. Adrian Cadiz
Russian PM Dmitry Medvedev told German media that sending foreign troops into Syria could unleash “yet another war on Earth.”
* TomLuny https://global.handelsbla(...)rns-of-new-world-war
The warning follows increasingly aggressive statements made by Saudi Arabia and Turkey amid Bashar Assad’s gains in Aleppo. The PM was commenting on recent statements from Saudi Arabia claiming that it was ready to send ground troops to Syria, should Washington lead the way.
“The Americans and our Arab partners must think well: do they want a permanent war? Do they think they can really quickly win it? It is impossible, especially in the Arab world. Everyone is fighting against everyone there,” Medvedev added.
The interview was published on the eve of the International Syria Support Group meeting in Munich, where the cessation of hostilities in Syria became a top item on the agenda.
On the Syrian battlefield, Turkey openly supports anti-Assad rebel groups. The latest statement by Turkish PM Ahmet Davutoglu, who pledged to return a “historical debt” to Turkey’s “Aleppo brothers,” gave new rise to speculations over a looming Turkish ground invasion of Syria.
The situation has prompted fears of a possible military clash between world powers
backing different sides of the Syrian conflict, with hopes that the Munich talks could de-escalate the deadlock.
Meanwhile, the US is seeking to boost the anti-Islamic State coalition it is heading in Iraq and Syria by officially drawing in NATO as a member, AFP reported.
* TomLuny https://www.yahoo.com/new(...)on-us-180204186.html
US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter has been lobbying for greater participation by NATO in the war on Islamic State, giving a dramatic Thursday speech on “a new stage in the coalition campaign to defeat ISIL” and adding the countries would then be able “look back after victory and remember who participated in the fight.”
* TomLuny http://www.defense.gov/Ne(...)-stage-in-isil-fight
Defense Secretary Ash Carter, left, greets NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg as they meet at NATO headquarters in Brussels, Feb. 10, 2016, to discuss matters of mutual importance. DoD photo by Air Force Senior Master Sgt. Adrian Cadiz
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Russia-NATO relations have fallen to new Cold War level – Russian PM
Edited time: 13 Feb, 2016 09:23
The relationships between NATO and Russia have slid down toward a new Cold War, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said at a panel discussion during the Munich Security Conference, describing NATO's policy as "unfriendly and not transparent."
"Almost every day we are referred to as the most terrible threat to NATO as a whole or to Europe, America and other countries specifically," Medvedev said.
"Although actual threats that exist in our small world - and I hope, you understand that - are absolutely different."
Earlier in the day, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg reiterated plans for massive military build-up on its eastern flanks
; the largest since the Cold War – to counter "Russia's actions."
He added that relations with Russia would be based upon "defense and dialogue."
Terrorists are gaining influence and benefiting from Russian-Western discord, Medvedev told the gathering. "Terrorism is a challenge to the whole of civilization: we must not divide terrorists into friends, enemies, extremists or 'moderates,’" he said.
"I think Daesh has to be grateful to my colleagues, some Western leaders who disabled such cooperation
[between intelligence services]," Medvedev said.
The PM cited cases such as the bombing of the Russian airliner over Sinai, the terror attacks in Paris, London, Israel, Pakistan, Iraq and many other countries, as well as public beheadings and brutal acts of violence, as clear evidence that international terrorism respects no borders.
DETAILS TO FOLLOW
https://www.rt.com/news/332351-medvedev-munich-nato-cold-war/
Munich Security Conference
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Mooi ....
Vanaf vandaag zitten we dus officieel in CWII (koude oorlog 2)
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en daar gaat de gaskraan :
EU better respect Russia's interests or do business elsewhere - Medvedev
https://www.rt.com/busine(...)-business-sanctions/
en nog meer breaknieuws :
Saudi jets to fly missions in Syria from Turkish base
https://www.rt.com/news/332354-saudi-turkey-jets-deployed/
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door TomLuny op 13-02-2016 15:54:10 ]
Edited time: 13 Feb, 2016 09:23
The relationships between NATO and Russia have slid down toward a new Cold War, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said at a panel discussion during the Munich Security Conference, describing NATO's policy as "unfriendly and not transparent."
"Almost every day we are referred to as the most terrible threat to NATO as a whole or to Europe, America and other countries specifically," Medvedev said.
"Although actual threats that exist in our small world - and I hope, you understand that - are absolutely different."
Earlier in the day, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg reiterated plans for massive military build-up on its eastern flanks
; the largest since the Cold War – to counter "Russia's actions."
He added that relations with Russia would be based upon "defense and dialogue."
Terrorists are gaining influence and benefiting from Russian-Western discord, Medvedev told the gathering. "Terrorism is a challenge to the whole of civilization: we must not divide terrorists into friends, enemies, extremists or 'moderates,’" he said.
"I think Daesh has to be grateful to my colleagues, some Western leaders who disabled such cooperation
[between intelligence services]," Medvedev said.
The PM cited cases such as the bombing of the Russian airliner over Sinai, the terror attacks in Paris, London, Israel, Pakistan, Iraq and many other countries, as well as public beheadings and brutal acts of violence, as clear evidence that international terrorism respects no borders.
DETAILS TO FOLLOW
https://www.rt.com/news/332351-medvedev-munich-nato-cold-war/
Munich Security Conference
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Mooi ....
Vanaf vandaag zitten we dus officieel in CWII (koude oorlog 2)
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en daar gaat de gaskraan :
EU better respect Russia's interests or do business elsewhere - Medvedev
https://www.rt.com/busine(...)-business-sanctions/
en nog meer breaknieuws :
Saudi jets to fly missions in Syria from Turkish base
https://www.rt.com/news/332354-saudi-turkey-jets-deployed/
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door TomLuny op 13-02-2016 15:54:10 ]
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Ingekort : voor video's en meer klik de link
kaartje niet helemaal actueel, gaat om Azaz
Turkish military repeatedly shell Assad forces; Kurds confirm
The Turkish army has shelled Syrian government forces in Aleppo and Latakia provinces, while also hitting Kurdish targets near the city of Azaz in northwestern Syria, including an air base recently retaken from Islamist rebels, with a massive attack.
A source in the Turkish government confirmed to Reuters that the Turkish military had shelled Kurdish militia targets near Azaz on Saturday.
“The Turkish Armed Forces fired shells at PYD positions in the Azaz area,” the source said, referring to the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD), which Ankara views as a terrorist group.
Turkey’s PM Davutoglu also confirmed that the country’s forces had struck Syrian Kurdish fighters and demanded that the Kurds retreat from all of the areas that they had recently seized.
“The YPG will immediately withdraw from Azaz and the surrounding area and will not go close to it again,” he told reporters, adding that Turkey “will retaliate against every step [by the YPG],” Reuters reports.
* TomLuny http://www.reuters.com/ar(...)elling-idUSKCN0VM0Q0
According to the official, the base had been captured by the Jaysh al-Thuwwar rebel group, which is an ally of PYD and a member of the Syria Democratic Forces alliance.
* TomLuny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Democratic_Forces
Syrian Kurds are actively engaged in the fight against the Islamic State terrorist group and have been recently described as “some of the most successful” forces fighting IS jihadists in Syria by US State Department spokesman John Kirby, AFP reports.
* TomLuny https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agence_France-Presse
Earlier, the US also called the PYD an “important partner” in the fight against Islamic State, adding that US support of the Kurdish fighters “will continue.”
Turkey’s shelling of the Syrian Kurds comes just days after a plan to end hostilities in Syria was presented in Munich after a meeting of the so-called International Syria Support Group (ISSG), in which Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, US Secretary of State John Kerry, and UN Special Envoy on Syria Staffan de Mistura participated.
‘We will strike PYD’ – Turkish PM
Earlier on Saturday, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu threatened Syrian Kurds with military action, saying that Turkey will resort to force against the Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) if it considers the step “necessary.”
“As I have said, the link between the YPG and the [outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party] PKK is obvious. If the YPG threatens our security, then we will do what is necessary,” Davutoglu said on February 10, as quoted by the Hurriyet Daily.
* TomLuny http://www.hurriyetdailyn(...)=95083&NewsCatID=510
“The leadership cadre and ideology of the PKK and PYD is the same,” he argued in a televised speech in the eastern city of Erzincan on Saturday, AFP reports.
* TomLuny http://www.justiceinfo.net/en/component/k2/26013-.html
Davutoglu also said that if there is a threat to Turkey, “we will strike PYD like we did Qandil,” referring to a bombing campaign waged by Turkey against the PKK in its Qandil mountain stronghold in northern Iraq, Daily Sabah reports.
Turkey regards the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) and its military wing, the YPG, as affiliates of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which has waged a decade-long insurgency against Turkish authorities, demanding autonomy for Turkish Kurds.
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Nederlandse versie :
Turken beschieten Koerdische doelen in Syrië
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov (L) speaks to German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier
at the Munich Security Conference in Munich, Germany, February 13, 2016. © Michael Dalder/Reuters
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door TomLuny op 14-02-2016 09:05:23 ]
kaartje niet helemaal actueel, gaat om Azaz
Turkish military repeatedly shell Assad forces; Kurds confirm
The Turkish army has shelled Syrian government forces in Aleppo and Latakia provinces, while also hitting Kurdish targets near the city of Azaz in northwestern Syria, including an air base recently retaken from Islamist rebels, with a massive attack.
A source in the Turkish government confirmed to Reuters that the Turkish military had shelled Kurdish militia targets near Azaz on Saturday.
“The Turkish Armed Forces fired shells at PYD positions in the Azaz area,” the source said, referring to the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD), which Ankara views as a terrorist group.
Turkey’s PM Davutoglu also confirmed that the country’s forces had struck Syrian Kurdish fighters and demanded that the Kurds retreat from all of the areas that they had recently seized.
“The YPG will immediately withdraw from Azaz and the surrounding area and will not go close to it again,” he told reporters, adding that Turkey “will retaliate against every step [by the YPG],” Reuters reports.
* TomLuny http://www.reuters.com/ar(...)elling-idUSKCN0VM0Q0
According to the official, the base had been captured by the Jaysh al-Thuwwar rebel group, which is an ally of PYD and a member of the Syria Democratic Forces alliance.
* TomLuny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Democratic_Forces
Syrian Kurds are actively engaged in the fight against the Islamic State terrorist group and have been recently described as “some of the most successful” forces fighting IS jihadists in Syria by US State Department spokesman John Kirby, AFP reports.
* TomLuny https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agence_France-Presse
Earlier, the US also called the PYD an “important partner” in the fight against Islamic State, adding that US support of the Kurdish fighters “will continue.”
Turkey’s shelling of the Syrian Kurds comes just days after a plan to end hostilities in Syria was presented in Munich after a meeting of the so-called International Syria Support Group (ISSG), in which Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, US Secretary of State John Kerry, and UN Special Envoy on Syria Staffan de Mistura participated.
‘We will strike PYD’ – Turkish PM
Earlier on Saturday, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu threatened Syrian Kurds with military action, saying that Turkey will resort to force against the Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) if it considers the step “necessary.”
“As I have said, the link between the YPG and the [outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party] PKK is obvious. If the YPG threatens our security, then we will do what is necessary,” Davutoglu said on February 10, as quoted by the Hurriyet Daily.
* TomLuny http://www.hurriyetdailyn(...)=95083&NewsCatID=510
“The leadership cadre and ideology of the PKK and PYD is the same,” he argued in a televised speech in the eastern city of Erzincan on Saturday, AFP reports.
* TomLuny http://www.justiceinfo.net/en/component/k2/26013-.html
Davutoglu also said that if there is a threat to Turkey, “we will strike PYD like we did Qandil,” referring to a bombing campaign waged by Turkey against the PKK in its Qandil mountain stronghold in northern Iraq, Daily Sabah reports.
Turkey regards the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) and its military wing, the YPG, as affiliates of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which has waged a decade-long insurgency against Turkish authorities, demanding autonomy for Turkish Kurds.
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Nederlandse versie :
Turken beschieten Koerdische doelen in Syrië
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov (L) speaks to German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier
at the Munich Security Conference in Munich, Germany, February 13, 2016. © Michael Dalder/Reuters
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door TomLuny op 14-02-2016 09:05:23 ]
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Kaart: Aleppo met corridor naar Turkije via Azaz. More maps.
http://www.pomonieuws.nl/
zaterdag 13 februari 2016
SYRIE: HET 'WORST CASE' SCENARIO
De oorlog in Syrie is op een cruciaal moment aangekomen.
Diplomaten hebben overeenstemming bereikt met de strijdende partijen. Maar de regionale oorlog is reeds begonnen.
En kan potentieel uitgroeien tot een volschalige wereldoorlog.
UPDATE:
We zijn reeds verwikkeld in een proxy-oorlog met de VS, Rusland, Saudi Arabie, Iran en Turkije. Vooroplopend op de grondinvasie is Saudi Arabie vast begonnen met zijn eigen interventiemacht in stelling te brengen met troepen en jagers op de Incirlik basis in Turkije. (Source)
De oorlog tegen ISIS en Nusra is maar een excuus voor de grondoorlog. ISIS houdt het kalifaat van de Levant voor gezien en is bezig te vertrekken uit Syria: ze verplaatsen hun assets naar Libie. De Koerden verkeren in levensgevaar. De eenheden van de YPG worden beschoten door de Turken. De samenwerking van de Turken met de Saudi's wordt gecompliceerd als de Saudi's de Turkse definitie van terrorisme gaan hanteren, want daaronder verstaan ze de YPG.
Het apocalyptische visioen van een botsing tussen soeni en sjia islam wordt werkelijkheid, met de VS (NAVO) en Rusland als wederzijdse supporters. Het is een scenario dat te allen tijde moet worden vermeden. De gevolgen zijn dan niet meer te overzien. Het Midden Oosten wordt een regio waarin Iran en Rusland domineren.
Meer op Pomonews.com
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Ik zie nog steeds niet hoe dit meer is dan een regionale proxy-oorlog. De belangen zijn ook weer niet dermate groot.
De wens is weer eens de vader van de gedachte. Het is immers hartstikke spannend om verzeild te raken in een grootschalig conflict.quote:Op maandag 15 februari 2016 08:59 schreef Reya het volgende:
Ik zie nog steeds niet hoe dit meer is dan een regionale proxy-oorlog. De belangen zijn ook weer niet dermate groot.
Op maandag 3 februari 2014 08:10 schreef Enchanter het volgende:[/b]
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
Dat klopt denk ik, het is een regionale proxy-oorlog, maar was nou juist niet de vraag of er mogelijk een WOIII uit zou kunnen ontstaan ? Over WOIII kunnen we hier niet berichten want die is er niet, en iedereen wenst dat dat zo blijft natuurlijk. (behalve op een paar gekken na misschien)quote:
Ik zie nog steeds niet hoe dit meer is dan een regionale proxy-oorlog.
De belangen zijn ook weer niet dermate groot.
Over de belangen, als de oorlog er niet zou zijn, dan zou dat alleen al aan asielopvang in de EU vele tientallen miljarden per jaar besparen. Of dit groot is t.o.v. andere uitgaven weet ik niet maar het is geen kattepis, plat gezegd.
En het wordt steeds slechter, SA gaat bijvoorbeeld al oefenen met 20 andere landen, het westen is niet uitgenodigd staat hier.en Turkije bombardeert lekker door over de grens heen op de bondgenoten van Hennis.
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Laten we eens kijken wat de toppolitici zelf zeggen.
Volgende quote komt uit een RT Opinie van F. Cunningham.
De door mij geplaatste links tonen dezelfde uitspraken :
Kerry even warned that "greater pressure" could involve foreign troops being sent into Syria, without naming from which countries, saying:
"There is a possibility there will be additional ground troops."
* TomLuny http://in.reuters.com/art(...)eement-idINKCN0VK2NX
The top American diplomat made the comments while attending the Munich Security Conference along with several world leaders, held the day after the truce deal was brokered by the ISSG. Kerry told delegates ominously: "We hope this week can be a week of change. This moment is a hinge point. Decisions made in the coming days, weeks and months can end the war in Syria.
Or, if the wrong choices are made, they can open the door to even wider conflict."
* TomLuny http://m.voanews.com/a/ke(...)olution/3189551.html
Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev also addressed the Munich conference, but he warned that any ground invasion in Syria by foreign forces ran the grave risk of unleashing an all-out war.
* TomLuny http://www.reuters.com/ar(...)-syria-idUSKCN0VK22O
Ik weet niet of het normale taal is bij die politici om iedereen te dreigen met wereldoorlogen en grotere escalaties, maar het komt niet echt positief over en het komt evenmin van mij af, het zijn hun uitspraken.
En in een vorige post was ook al Koude Oorlog II officiëel verklaard door diezelfde Medvedev.
Aan het einde van het Opiniestuk staat nog iets over de belangen. Dat ze 5 jaar hebben geïnvesteerd om Syrië naar hun wens te bakken maar dat het eindresultaat dreigt te mislukken.
[ Bericht 5% gewijzigd door TomLuny op 15-02-2016 12:56:27 ]
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Ja, Israël blijft aardig buiten de schijnwerpers van de media m.b.t. het Syrië-conflict, al of niet opzet. En zo was er eerder nog sprake van een vliegdekschip van China wat zou opstomen, maar dat was een broodje aap verhaal waarschijnlijk, nooit meer iets van gehoord.quote:Op maandag 15 februari 2016 15:50 schreef Iwanius het volgende:
Weet je wie ik trouwens mis in dit hele schaakspel en zich heel erg koest houden.
Maar ernstiger, van Hennis en de Nederlandse positie t.o.v. de YPG hoor je evenmin helemaal niks, niet van de Nos tot nu toe in ieder geval. Zelfs onderstaand uitgebreide stuk wat zojuist vers bij hun van de printer afrolt; daarin is het standpunt van de Nederlandse regering in een zwart gat verdwenen.
Enige wat je leest is dat de VS niet blij zijn met de bombardementen van Turkije op de YPG en Frankrijk heeft inmiddels officiëel zijn afkeur uitgesproken.
Turkije riskeert botsing met NAVO-bondgenoten met strijd tegen Koerden
Parijs: stop aanvallen op Syrische Koerden
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Let ook op Oekraine. Niet alleen leuk handje schudden met de Turken, maar inmiddels staan de zware artillerie aan beide kanten van het front weer opgesteld.
Mwah, de moord op Frans Ferdinand was destijds ook niet zo bijster groot.quote:
Ik zie nog steeds niet hoe dit meer is dan een regionale proxy-oorlog. De belangen zijn ook weer niet dermate groot.
Op een dergelijke wijze zou je elk incident als een mogelijke aanleiding voor WO-III kunnen zien.quote:Op dinsdag 16 februari 2016 02:00 schreef Tocadisco het volgende:
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Mwah, de moord op Frans Ferdinand was destijds ook niet zo bijster groot.
Meestal zijn het juist de onverwachte gebeurtenissen die zoiets veroorzaken.quote:
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Op een dergelijke wijze zou je elk incident als een mogelijke aanleiding voor WO-III kunnen zien.
Dat hangt maar net van de betrokken partijen af, als er al een hoop spanningen zijn tussen twee landen kan praktisch alles de aanleiding tot een oorlog zijn (Honduras en El Salvador hebben het ooit voor elkaar gekregen om vanwege een voetbalinterland elkaar de oorlog te verklaren: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War). En dan is het een weinig gerustellende gedachte dat twee betrokken partijen (Turkije en Rusland) een net iets te nationalistische autoritaire malloot aan het roer hebben en nog net niet een geweer tegen elkaars kop hebben.quote:
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Op een dergelijke wijze zou je elk incident als een mogelijke aanleiding voor WO-III kunnen zien.
Voetbaloorlog, het zou bijna grappig zijn.
Ik zal het eens teruglezen, was het bijna vergeten, tnx.
Dit is wel grappig, de verschiillen in krantekoppen van vandaag :
NOS
Assad: staakt-het-vuren onwerkbaar
RT
Turkey shells Kurdish forces in Syria for 4th successive day
Ik zal het eens teruglezen, was het bijna vergeten, tnx.
Dit is wel grappig, de verschiillen in krantekoppen van vandaag :
NOS
Assad: staakt-het-vuren onwerkbaar
RT
Turkey shells Kurdish forces in Syria for 4th successive day
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RT heeft wel meer koppen gehad en het bericht over de wapenstilstand en assad zijn commentaar is volgens mij het volgende:quote:Op dinsdag 16 februari 2016 17:27 schreef TomLuny het volgende:
Voetbaloorlog, het zou bijna grappig zijn.
Ik zal het eens teruglezen, was het bijna vergeten, tnx.
Dit is wel grappig, de verschiillen in krantekoppen van vandaag :
NOS
Assad: staakt-het-vuren onwerkbaar
RT
Turkey shells Kurdish forces in Syria for 4th successive day
Why the Syria ceasefire is a long shot
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/332426-syria-munich-turkey-war/
Ja, toevallig had ik die in een vorige post geplaatst en aangetoond dat uitspraken van toppolitici in diverse media hetzelfde zijn en dus te vertrouwen. (steekproef gebaseerd)quote:
RT heeft wel meer koppen gehad en het bericht over de wapenstilstand en assad zijn commentaar is volgens mij het volgende:
Why the Syria ceasefire is a long shot
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/332426-syria-munich-turkey-war/
POL / Is de derde wereldoorlog begonnen?
Op basis van die steekproef ga ik ervanuit dat dit dan ook zal kloppen :
Washington and Paris have both called on Turkey to cease its massive artillery bombardment against Kurdish targets and de-escalate tensions on all sides.
“We are concerned about the situation north of Aleppo and are working to de-escalate tensions on all sides,” State Department spokesman John Kirby said in a statement. “We have also seen reports of artillery fire from the Turkish side of the border and urged Turkey to cease such fire.”
https://www.rt.com/news/332612-turkey-shelling-kurds-syria/
Ik concludeer daaruit dat zowel USA als Frankrijk de Turkse bombardementen veroordelen.
Het wachten is nu op Hennis tot ze uit het zwarte gat opduikt.
Of misschien wil ze eerst een muntje opwerpen ?
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Eindelijk een uitspraak van regeringszijde :
Kamer: Turkije mag Nederland niet oorlog intrekken
De Tweede Kamer vindt dat Turkije Nederland en andere NAVO-landen niet een oorlog "in mag trekken". Een ruime Kamermeerderheid maakt zich zorgen over Turkse acties tegen de Koerden in het noorden van Syrië.
Minister Koenders roept zowel Turkije als de Koerden op de beschietingen te staken. Hij schrijft aan de Tweede Kamer dat de vijandigheden tussen Turkije en de Koerden de inspanningen compliceren die gericht zijn op een oplossing van het conflict.
Kamer: Turkije mag Nederland niet oorlog intrekken
De Tweede Kamer vindt dat Turkije Nederland en andere NAVO-landen niet een oorlog "in mag trekken". Een ruime Kamermeerderheid maakt zich zorgen over Turkse acties tegen de Koerden in het noorden van Syrië.
Minister Koenders roept zowel Turkije als de Koerden op de beschietingen te staken. Hij schrijft aan de Tweede Kamer dat de vijandigheden tussen Turkije en de Koerden de inspanningen compliceren die gericht zijn op een oplossing van het conflict.
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Vers bericht, Turkeninvasie Syrië begonnen.
Drie meldingen: van RT, van Syrische Koerden en uit Macedonië
https://www.rt.com/news/332924-turkish-vehicles-cross-syria/
http://en.hawarnews.com/d(...)-rojava/#prettyPhoto
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/28891/2/
Afrin
Turkey sends military in Syria, dig trenches
Turkish military vehicles have crossed into a Kurdistani area in Syria, Afrin, just over the border
Dozens of Turkish military vehicles advanced 200 meters into the Syrian Kurdish region in Aleppo province on Thursday
It added that the troops started digging a trench between the towns of Sorka and Meydan Ekbis. According to the agency the construction of a concrete wall on the Syrian border in the area is ongoing as well. The agency posted photos of ongoing operations on its website.
The Syrian Afrin district bordering Turkey is predominantly Kurdish with a population estimated to be of more than 170,000 people according to a 2004 census. The area is part of a de facto autonomous region of Rojava, or Syrian Kurdistan since 2013.
The developments come as Turkey accused forces linked with the Syrian Kurdish YPG militia of an explosion in Ankara that killed 28 and injured 61 more. No evidence was provided by Turkey.
On Thursday, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu vowed to continue the military efforts against Kurdish groups in Syria. The Syrian Kurds, in turn, denied responsibility for the attack and put the blame on Islamic State militants.
Others have blamed Turkey for staging a false flag.
Turkish military has been intensely shelling Syrian Kurds despite UN Security Council (UNSC) warning on Tuesday which urged Ankara to comply with international law.
The Kurdish region in northern Syria is a stronghold of the Democratic Union Party (PYD) and its activists, as well as YPG militia. Turkey has claimed that PYD is affiliated with the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) which is considered to be a terrorist group by Ankara and its ally the US.
Although Turkey views the PYD as merely a Syrian branch of the PKK, the US has backed the Syrian Kurds which have been one of the key forces fighting against the IS in the region. Ankara has been sending diplomatic signals to Washington that it is discontent with Washington’s support of Syrian Kurds.
On the other hand, Washington has been mounting pressure on Ankara to seal its frontiers with Syria. In December, Davutoglu stated that closing the country’s border with Syria is extremely difficult, despite the fact that most of it is “under Islamic State control.” He added that instead Turkey is putting countermeasures in place, which include physical barriers on the entire border.
Meanwhile, the Russian Defense Ministry has recently released images and satellite intelligence proving the illegal oil supplies are being delivered across the Turkish-Syrian border on three main routes leading to Mediterranean ports, Batman oil refinery on the Turkish territory and a large transfer base in Turkey’s Cizre, respectively. Russia claimed that those oil supplies widely benefit Turkish President Recep closest relatives and help fund IS militants in Syria.
Drie meldingen: van RT, van Syrische Koerden en uit Macedonië
https://www.rt.com/news/332924-turkish-vehicles-cross-syria/
http://en.hawarnews.com/d(...)-rojava/#prettyPhoto
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/28891/2/
Afrin
Turkey sends military in Syria, dig trenches
Turkish military vehicles have crossed into a Kurdistani area in Syria, Afrin, just over the border
Dozens of Turkish military vehicles advanced 200 meters into the Syrian Kurdish region in Aleppo province on Thursday
It added that the troops started digging a trench between the towns of Sorka and Meydan Ekbis. According to the agency the construction of a concrete wall on the Syrian border in the area is ongoing as well. The agency posted photos of ongoing operations on its website.
The Syrian Afrin district bordering Turkey is predominantly Kurdish with a population estimated to be of more than 170,000 people according to a 2004 census. The area is part of a de facto autonomous region of Rojava, or Syrian Kurdistan since 2013.
The developments come as Turkey accused forces linked with the Syrian Kurdish YPG militia of an explosion in Ankara that killed 28 and injured 61 more. No evidence was provided by Turkey.
On Thursday, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu vowed to continue the military efforts against Kurdish groups in Syria. The Syrian Kurds, in turn, denied responsibility for the attack and put the blame on Islamic State militants.
Others have blamed Turkey for staging a false flag.
Turkish military has been intensely shelling Syrian Kurds despite UN Security Council (UNSC) warning on Tuesday which urged Ankara to comply with international law.
The Kurdish region in northern Syria is a stronghold of the Democratic Union Party (PYD) and its activists, as well as YPG militia. Turkey has claimed that PYD is affiliated with the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) which is considered to be a terrorist group by Ankara and its ally the US.
Although Turkey views the PYD as merely a Syrian branch of the PKK, the US has backed the Syrian Kurds which have been one of the key forces fighting against the IS in the region. Ankara has been sending diplomatic signals to Washington that it is discontent with Washington’s support of Syrian Kurds.
On the other hand, Washington has been mounting pressure on Ankara to seal its frontiers with Syria. In December, Davutoglu stated that closing the country’s border with Syria is extremely difficult, despite the fact that most of it is “under Islamic State control.” He added that instead Turkey is putting countermeasures in place, which include physical barriers on the entire border.
Meanwhile, the Russian Defense Ministry has recently released images and satellite intelligence proving the illegal oil supplies are being delivered across the Turkish-Syrian border on three main routes leading to Mediterranean ports, Batman oil refinery on the Turkish territory and a large transfer base in Turkey’s Cizre, respectively. Russia claimed that those oil supplies widely benefit Turkish President Recep closest relatives and help fund IS militants in Syria.
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De grens 200 meter oversteken om een bufferzone in te stellen lijkt me niet direct tot WO3 te leiden...
Zei de Duitser tegen de Fransman toen prins Ferdinand werd doodgeschoten door een dissident in Oostenrijk-Hongarije.quote:
Ik zie nog steeds niet hoe dit meer is dan een regionale proxy-oorlog. De belangen zijn ook weer niet dermate groot.
Waar gaat het toch heen met de wereld....
We hopen allemaal dat je gelijk hebt natuurlijk.quote:
De grens 200 meter oversteken om een bufferzone in te stellen lijkt me niet direct tot WO3 te leiden...
Ik bericht enkel hoofdpunten en ik maak geen standpunt dat hiermee WOIII gaat beginnen want ik heb geen glazen bol. Enkel wat ik kan zeggen is dat de kansen toenemen met dit soort acties en zoals BaardHagrid al schrijft, er is soms niet veel voor nodig om de vlam in de pan te laten slaan.
In dit geval zien we Turkije (volgens genoemde websites) Syrië binnenvallen en dat geeft Syrië weer recht om Turkse troepen in Syrië onder vuur te nemen en de RF zit daar volkomen legaal op Syrisch grondgebied dus dan zou je het lijntje kunnen doortrekken dat de RF nu het recht heeft om Turkse troepen in Syrië plat te gooien. Tenslotte werden zij ook neergehaald na (onbewezen) 200m over de Turkse grens te vliegen.
Even terzijde, een Nederlandse Koerd haalt de internationale pers :
Kurdish Netherlands-based ANF News is reporting that their correspondent is trapped with some 30 people underground
http://anfenglish.com/kur(...)-in-basements-in-sur
https://www.rt.com/news/332951-kurds-burned-alive-turkey/
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posted Feb 17, 2016 at 4:00 PM-- updated Feb 17, 2016 at 6:42 PM
Those of you who are familiar with the Doomsday Clock probably know that humanity's day is nearly over - both figuratively, and if the prognosticators who set the hands of the clock are correct in their assessment, literally.
In fact, the Science and Security Board has estimated that we are sitting at three minutes to midnight in our final day.
We haven't been that close to the end since 1984, when cold war tensions between the United States and the Soviet Union could have liquefied nitrogen.
The world was once even closer to humanity's demise.
The clock was set at two minutes to midnight in 1953, the year I was born.
The end of the Cold War in 1991 pushed the minute hand back to a full 17 minutes to midnight.
Tick-tock, tick-tock...
- Read Matthew Claxton's Painful Truth online this week at mrtimes.com
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doemdagklok
[ Bericht 13% gewijzigd door TomLuny op 19-02-2016 10:18:41 ]
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