Goud dat heb ik nog niet gelezen, heb wel meteen gegoogled erop, 150 ton is hoeveel in Euro?quote:Op zaterdag 11 juli 2015 01:35 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:
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Skouries mijn bevat naar schatting 150 ton goud...
5 miljard euro. de mijn is in Canadese handen.quote:Op zaterdag 11 juli 2015 01:37 schreef john2406 het volgende:
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Goud dat heb ik nog niet gelezen, heb wel meteen gegoogled erop, 150 ton is hoeveel in Euro?
Hoop dat nou wel al hun staatsobligaties van hun zijn.
Was me teveel om uit te rekenen maar helaas het is bij anderen in bezit dus dat gaat over dan.quote:Op zaterdag 11 juli 2015 01:43 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:
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5 miljard euro. de mijn is in Canadese handen.
http://www.reuters.com/ar(...)dUSKCN0PK2KZ20150710quote:EU, IMF give thumbs up to Greek bailout request: source
EU and IMF officials have given euro zone governments a positive assessment of Greece's request for a new bailout, a source close to the matter said, making it likely they will agree on Saturday to open talks on lending Athens tens of billions of additional euros.
Experts from the European Commission, European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund spent Friday reviewing the Greek case for aid and proposals for economic reforms from Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras that will be conditions for any loans.
The positive evaluation, along with a conclusion that Athens currently needs some 74 billion euros to meet its obligations, will form a key part of discussions among euro zone finance ministers when they meet in Brussels at 3 p.m. (9.00 a.m. EDT).
With Greek banks shut and subject to capital controls for the past week, failure to agree a new program following five months of abortive negotiations had threatened effectively to force Greece out of the 19-state currency area, alarming EU leaders who have scheduled an emergency summit for Sunday.
One euro zone source, who has been skeptical of the leftist government’s commitment to a new reform program, said it was now “100 percent certain” the ministers would agree to launch negotiations. In the meantime, they will also consider short-term aid to tide Athens over until the three-year loan deal that Tsipras requested has been agreed and funds can be disbursed.
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twitter:GreekAnalyst twitterde op zaterdag 11-07-2015 om 01:47:43#Syriza MP & House Speaker Konstantopoulou talking about not only a blackmail, but 'act of war' against #Greece. Oh my...! reageer retweet
One flew over the Cuckoo's nest referentie.twitter:colmomongain twitterde op zaterdag 11-07-2015 om 01:59:16As RP McMurphy said of his unsuccessful water-fountain defenestration attempt "I tried, goddamit,at least I did that much" #tsipras #Greece reageer retweet
twitter:melissinos twitterde op zaterdag 11-07-2015 om 02:06:34Right now in #Greece Parliament #Varoufakis was called to vote. Laughs and shouts from many MPs "he's in Aegina having drinks!" reageer retweet
quote:Op zaterdag 11 juli 2015 02:10 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:
twitter:melissinos twitterde op zaterdag 11-07-2015 om 02:06:34Right now in #Greece Parliament #Varoufakis was called to vote. Laughs and shouts from many MPs "he's in Aegina having drinks!" reageer retweet
twitter:NikiKitsantonis twitterde op zaterdag 11-07-2015 om 02:21:11Govt has lost 10 votes, result will be close. Bill will pass due to opposition support but serious blow to govt. Reshuffle at v least reageer retweet
twitter:stratosathens twitterde op zaterdag 11-07-2015 om 02:28:56Greek MPs approve government’s bailout proposal. YES 250 / NO 32 / Present 8. reageer retweet
twitter:athenslivegr twitterde op zaterdag 11-07-2015 om 02:34:04145 of the 162 SYRIZA-ANEL MPs voted yes. Remainder abstained, no or absent. #AthensLive #Greece reageer retweet
145, net 50%?quote:Op zaterdag 11 juli 2015 02:39 schreef L3gend het volgende:
Tsipras coalitie heeft averij opgelopen, teveel leden hebben tegen gestemd. De coalitie is nu afhankelijk van de oppositie gewordentwitter:athenslivegr twitterde op zaterdag 11-07-2015 om 02:34:04145 of the 162 SYRIZA-ANEL MPs voted yes. Remainder abstained, no or absent. #AthensLive #Greece reageer retweet
ow, had afwezigen niet meegerekend.quote:Op zaterdag 11 juli 2015 02:40 schreef L3gend het volgende:
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145 van de 300, 151 is de meerderheid
Hoe moet ik dat zien met 250 stemmen voor en 32 tegen?quote:Op zaterdag 11 juli 2015 02:39 schreef L3gend het volgende:
Tsipras coalitie heeft averij opgelopen, teveel leden hebben tegen gestemd. De coalitie is nu afhankelijk van de oppositie gewordentwitter:athenslivegr twitterde op zaterdag 11-07-2015 om 02:34:04145 of the 162 SYRIZA-ANEL MPs voted yes. Remainder abstained, no or absent. #AthensLive #Greece reageer retweet
Ik zie nu dat er een aantal afwezig waren, incl Varoufakis.quote:Op zaterdag 11 juli 2015 02:41 schreef remlof het volgende:
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Hoe moet ik dat zien met 250 stemmen voor en 32 tegen?
Maar die goedkeuring is toch geen probleem met 250 tegen 32 stemmen?quote:Op zaterdag 11 juli 2015 02:43 schreef L3gend het volgende:
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Ik zie nu dat er een aantal afwezig waren, incl Varoufakis.
Punt is dat Tsipras coalitie wankel is, en het afhankelijk is van de pro EU-oppositie, die de deal wel moeten goedkeuren.
quote:Bill passes despite government rebels
Although the bill has passed with a big majority, 250 out of 300, the big question is how the coalition split.
And it appears that only 145 Syriza-ANEL MPs backed the plan, out of 162.
Some eight Syriza MPs abstained, two voted no, and seven didn’t turn up.
(Under Greek parliamentary law, those seven absentee MPs don’t count as rebels).
The scale of the rebellion is a blow to Alexis Tsipras, and raises doubts over his ability to get these measure put into law.
BUT, this wasn’t a formal vote of confidence. So you can’t assume that these MPs would rebel on a knife-edge vote that could bring the government down.
But analysts are suggesting that this could force a government shake-up.
Dat het doorheen kwam, stond al vast. Maar het probleem voor Tsipras is dat zijn coalitie die meerderheid niet gaf, maar de oppositie (minus de communisten en neo-nazies) daarvoor nodig had.quote:Op zaterdag 11 juli 2015 02:49 schreef remlof het volgende:
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Maar die goedkeuring is toch geen probleem met 250 tegen 32 stemmen?
En al zijn al die 32 tegenstemmers van Syriza, dan is dat toch nog steeds een behoorlijk kleine minderheid van die fractie?
twitter:NickMalkoutzis twitterde op zaterdag 11-07-2015 om 02:39:44Strong support for proposals in Greek Parl't (250/300 MPs) but problem for PM is only 145 from coalition, raising Qs about majority #Greece reageer retweet
twitter:NickMalkoutzis twitterde op zaterdag 11-07-2015 om 02:44:53Questions now if Tsipras can continue with this set-up or whether he needs new MPs/coalition/elections. Also, will lenders trust him #Greece reageer retweet
twitter:YanniKouts twitterde op zaterdag 11-07-2015 om 02:36:58#Greece govt suffers wider losses than expected- Tough days ahead for Tsipras- Almost impossible to pass bailout laws under this coalition reageer retweet
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