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c1888 Marcus Automobile The oldest automobile in the world? The Marcus Car features many remarkable technical achievements, a fact that was (almost) lost in the debate surrounding its dating.
Siegfried Marcus (1831-1898) was an exceptionally versatile engineer and inventor. He was born in Malchin, Mecklenburg, Germany, and moved to Vienna in 1852. He began by developing telegraphic apparatus and experimenting with ignition devices before turning to engine design.
Marcus filed several patents. In 1883 he received the concession for a “magneto-electric ignition device for internal combustion engines”. And in 1887 and 1888, concessions for the construction and improvement of internal combustion engines.
The Marcus Car had a capacity of 1570 cm3 and an output of approx. 0.75 hp, generating a speed of around 6 – 8 km/h. The heavy vehicle made of wood and iron was unsuited to uneven tracks or even inclines. The patented magneto-electric ignition used on the four-stroke engine was extremely convenient and advanced for the day. Another sophisticated invention by Siegfried Marcus was the spray brush carburettor, in which brushes dispersed the fuel through abrasion. By contrast the belt drive posed a number of problems.
In 1898 the organisers of the “Collective Exhibition of Austrian Automobile Constructors” showcased the Marcus Car as their industry’s greatest achievement. The vehicle dated 1877 at the time was said to have been designed “10 years before the first French & German petrol automobiles”. The precise dating of the Marcus Car has been the subject of much debate ever since.
Experts now believe that the Marcus Car was actually built later. The engine built by the company Märky, Bromovsky & Schulz was delivered in 1888. The Marcus Car is therefore thought to date from 1888/1889. So the Viennese engineer Siegfried Marcus was experimenting with an automobile with internal combustion engine concurrently with other automobile pioneers such as Carl Benz.
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Siegfried Samuel Marcus (18 September 1831 – 1 July 1898) was a German-Austrian inventor and automobile pioneer.
Marcus was born in Malchin in Mecklenburg-Schwerin into a Jewish Family. He moved to Vienna, the capital of the Austrian Empire, in 1852.
The Manning family, descendents of the House of Marcus emigrated to the United States at the turn of the century and Merged with the House of Lyons, the last remaining familial ties.
Omdat het dateren van deze automobiel zeer moeilijk blijkt wordt algemeen aangenomen dat het er in 1888 zeker was. Daarom blijft het bouwjaar een schatting, vandaar de "c"1888 (circa).In 1883 a patent for a low-voltage ignition magneto was given to Marcus in Germany. This design was used for all further engines and, of course, the famous “Second Marcus Car” of 1888–1889. It was this ignition in conjunction with the “rotating brush carburettor” that made the Second Car's design very innovative.
In 1887, Marcus started a co-operation with the Moravian company Märky, Bromovsky & Schulz. They offered two stroke and — after the fall of the Otto-Patent in 1886 — four stroke engines of the Marcus type.
Second Marcus Car of 1888 (Technical Museum Vienna)
In 1888-1889 Märky, Bromovsky & Schulz built the "Second Marcus Car", which can still be seen in Vienna's Technical Museum. This car made Marcus well-known all over the world. For a long time it was a common understanding that the “Second Car” already existed in 1875 — even today a widespread falsehood. "It was uncertain for a long time whether his car was ready to drive already in 1875 or only in 1888/89. Today the later date is considered for sure." (transl., Austria Lexicon, Vol. 2, Vienna 2004; Österreich Lexikon, Bd. 2, Wien 2004) There is no proof for an origin prior to 1889. This car was named a Historic Mechanical Engineering Landmark by the American Society of Mechanical Engineers.
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@2cv:Op maandag 28 juni 2010 17:17 schreef Paladijn het volgende:Met de hoeveelheid onzin die je verkondigd is het geen wonder dat je geen PTA-mod meer bent
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vorige deeltjes, statistieken, wie post er het meest enz enz
http://www.piles.nl/fok/index.php?reeks_id=11
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vrijdag 24 augustus 2007 09:50 schreef PretKroket het volgende:[/b]
dude? :') ik hoop voor je dat je niet serieus bent
Even voor jou: 2x1/2 = 1/2 x 1/2
[b]Neem mij niet tè serieus, dat doe ik zelf ook niet[/b]