[Centraal] Crisis in Syrië #259 Idlib schoongeveegd dankzij Erdo

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 19:16 schreef IPA35 het volgende:
Geen enkele vrouw te zien. Lijken wel beelden uit achterlijke landen zoals Jemen of Afghanistan.

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 19:19 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Alle vrouwen en kinderen zijn gedood door Assads barrelbombs, je weet toch

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 19:20 schreef IPA35 het volgende:

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Dit soort holbewoners verdienen niets beters dan gedomineerd te worden door een elite van beschaafde mensen.

Loop naar de hel met "democratie" en "vrijheid".

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 19:16 schreef IPA35 het volgende:
Geen enkele vrouw te zien. Lijken wel beelden uit achterlijke landen zoals Jemen of Afghanistan.

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 19:22 schreef mr_jack het volgende:

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Alleen kinderen man, allemaal schorriemorrie van 15 jaar wat uit is op een verzetje.

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 19:12 schreef mr_jack het volgende:

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ROFL, al 259 topics meedraaien hier en niet weten wat een wahabi is.
Professor in de taqiya hebben we hier. ofwel een LEUGENAAR.

Je kan wel doen alsof je een Nederlander bent, echter zijn er 2 punten waarop je door het ijs zakt:

1. Je erbarmelijk slechte Nederlands
2. Het wegkijken bij misdaden van de wahabieten en je haat tegen sjiieten

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 20:00 schreef firefly3 het volgende:

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Ik haat sharia praktijken meer dan jij. Maar als je gifgas binnen krijgt door assad, kun je beter geloofgekkies steunen.

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 17:47 schreef IPA35 het volgende:

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Je maakt d/t fouten, derhalve ben je iig moslim.

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 16:49 schreef firefly3 het volgende:

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Hahaha hoe vaak wordt het incident nog herhaald? Je haalt een incident eruit, denk je echt dat het allemaal kannibalen zijn?

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 20:00 schreef firefly3 het volgende:

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Ik haat sharia praktijken meer dan jij. Maar als je gifgas binnen krijgt door assad, kun je beter geloofgekkies steunen.

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ProSyriana twitterde op zaterdag 18-04-2015 om 09:15:54 That's how parts of #Sliemanieh #Aleppo looks now, all thanks to the rebels & those who trains em & give em weapons. http://t.co/u9MmNt9eCw reageer retweet

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ahmadalissa twitterde op zaterdag 18-04-2015 om 16:36:36 #Syria: Zahran #Aloush, leader of #Jaish Al-Islam, flees with family to #Turkey http://t.co/ZihJvVGnXx http://t.co/4Z0Kp8pP5m reageer retweet

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ahmadalissa twitterde op zaterdag 18-04-2015 om 06:12:03 #Syrian Arab Army kills #Saudi military commander Muhammed Tuweijari in #Edlib Provincehttps://t.co/Wv5cvo0hZV reageer retweet

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FSACrimes2 twitterde op zaterdag 18-04-2015 om 09:10:09 NBC knew their correspondent was kidnapped by rebels but lied & blamed the Syrian government. http://t.co/dEbcnVdiuC http://t.co/BLDtXyjO1k reageer retweet

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:03 schreef IPA35 het volgende:
Nog meer gematigden:

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:43 schreef firefly3 het volgende:
IPA35
Lid:
http://www.syrianperspective.com
3+ pkk websites

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:44 schreef firefly3 het volgende:
reza1
geboorteland : Turkije

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:51 schreef reza1 het volgende:

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Gelukkig niet

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:51 schreef IPA35 het volgende:

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Dat jong is echt de weg kwijt.

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leithfadel twitterde op zaterdag 18-04-2015 om 21:51:11 #Breaking - The Syrian Armed Forces have recaptured Al-Rashadiyah in southern #Aleppo -http://t.co/PDdpAgXtOD reageer retweet

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2Rook14 twitterde op vrijdag 17-04-2015 om 18:16:54 #Syria: PHOTO: Martyr Lt. Naddine Wannouz of the #Syria'n Republican Guard, Martyred during operations in #Jobar. http://t.co/GFtX1Jlc1m reageer retweet

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:50 schreef IPA35 het volgende:

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Ik heb ruim een jaar geleden regelmatig op SyrPer reacties geplaatst ja.
PKK websites?!

Koerden haten mij juist

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:54 schreef firefly3 het volgende:

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Je hebt blijkbaar wel op pkk gerelateerde forums berichten geplaatst.

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:51 schreef reza1 het volgende:

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Gelukkig niet

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:55 schreef firefly3 het volgende:

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Je hebt een buitenlandse afkomst. Het is slechts een kwestie van tijd. Ik hoop dat u uw gedrag gaat veranderen.

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:56 schreef reza1 het volgende:

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Het is slechts een kwestie van tijd voordat mijn geboorteland verandert naar Turkije?

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:56 schreef reza1 het volgende:

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Het is slechts een kwestie van tijd voordat mijn geboorteland verandert naar Turkije?

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PetoLucem twitterde op zaterdag 18-04-2015 om 22:44:04 Loy.sources: #SAA and #Hezbollah forces have captured 'al Madajin' farms, located south of #Aleppo city. #Syria v @ResistanceER reageer retweet

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:57 schreef IPA35 het volgende:

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Firefly is een self-styled PUA, wist je dat al .

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Op zaterdag 18 april 2015 22:52 schreef reza1 het volgende:

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leithfadel twitterde op zaterdag 18-04-2015 om 21:51:11 #Breaking - The Syrian Armed Forces have recaptured Al-Rashadiyah in southern #Aleppo -http://t.co/PDdpAgXtOD reageer retweet

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2Rook14 twitterde op vrijdag 17-04-2015 om 18:16:54 #Syria: PHOTO: Martyr Lt. Naddine Wannouz of the #Syria'n Republican Guard, Martyred during operations in #Jobar. http://t.co/GFtX1Jlc1m reageer retweet

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leithfadel twitterde op zaterdag 18-04-2015 om 23:49:14 The cowards from Al-Qaeda have attacked #Kessab again; however, the predominately Armenian NDF kicked their ass:http://t.co/IzK1wJNPFl reageer retweet

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leithfadel twitterde op zaterdag 18-04-2015 om 23:15:55 The Tiger Forces continue to make gains in #Idlib - Muqablah has been captured:http://t.co/Dl1aqUmnEE reageer retweet

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ahmadalissa twitterde op zondag 19-04-2015 om 03:00:24 #Syria fights #Qatar in #Barzeh and #Qaboun, fights #Saudi Arabia in #Douma and fights #Turkey in #Edlib and #Aleppo. reageer retweet

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archicivilians twitterde op donderdag 16-04-2015 om 22:54:54 #Syria: 5 barrel bombs filled with Chlorine gas, dropped by Assad warplanes over #Idlib city. reageer retweet

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A survivor from Idlib implored the heavens to help the Syrian army liberate the city from armed groups and save his house, where he left his misery along with his family memories. He received reports from Idlib that Jabhat al-Nusra wrote “Christian” on the front of his house. This means that if the owners do not return within 10 days to pay a fee, the house is to be confiscated by the group.
Idlib’s Christians never thought the battles would lead to the fall of their city. Some of them did not opt to leave during the displacement wave that followed the battles, and woke up to find that armed groups had occupied their city.

A woman told As-Safir, “I saw them on Saturday morning from my veranda. They demolished the cross of our church and then entered the church and smashed the things in it. They kidnapped Father Ibrahim Farah along with a young pharmacist. We had no choice but to light candles and pray to the Virgin Mary as we hugged our children in our homes.”

She confirmed that icons of historical and spiritual importance were taken from the church, and that what happened there hurt the townspeople.

Some Christian families remained in the Jabhat al-Nusra-controlled city for days. Survivors told As-Safir that the two people who were killed from the al-Khal family were shot 40 times, and their bodies showed bruises from being beaten. No prayers were allowed to be held for them in church, and they were buried in the garden of their house after the remaining Christian men and women buried them. Their three-story house became the headquarters of the gunmen while its contents were looted.

As soon as insurgents entered the city, they used the remaining families in Idlib as media pawns. They forced a woman to appear in a video and praise the insurgents’ treatment of Christians in Idlib. The families decided to stealthily flee, coordinating with some Muslims in the city to escape and reach the province of Hama.

After Idlib’s Christians had been safe for decades, the women suddenly found themselves wearing head coverings and cloaks. “Some of us saw this day coming and bought clothes that were somehow appropriate. As we fled, they told us that we did not look Muslim, but the heavens somehow blinded their eyes,” said one woman.

The neighborhood that has been home to Christian families for decades has been purged of its Christianity by gunmen. A few meters from the church, Jabhat al-Nusra raised its flag over a house that it used for its Sharia court, which approved the detention of Farah, the priest of the Greek Orthodox Church of the Virgin Mary, and his kidnapping is to be added to Jabhat al-Nusra’s record of Christian kidnappings, including those of nuns.

Idlib was home to about 179 Christian families. According to anonymous sources, 85% of these families escaped the city and their fate is known, while that of the rest of the families remains a mystery.

According to sources from Idlib, dozens of bodies lay scattered across the streets, some beheaded, others with gunshot wounds. The Red Crescent in Idlib buried about 300 bodies in a mass grave April 9, and the blood of Muslims and Christians has been mixed in this cemetery, which also contains bodies of families Jabhat al-Nusra had called thugs and then slaughtered.

The financial losses incurred by the Christians in Idlib are estimated in the hundreds of millions. However, Christians believe that they can be compensated for and that what is most important is the restoration of their city, to which they are very attached and which they refused to leave despite the great risks.

“We have great confidence that we will return to our neighborhood and that our church bells will ring again,” the brother of a Christian fighter with the army in Idlib said.

It is noteworthy that the Syrian army is working to establish a cordon around the city in preparation to enter it. According to reports, the attack on Idlib is drawing near.

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Early in its rule, the Justice and Development Party (AKP) government raised expectations that Turkey was willing to face its past. But now, as the 100th anniversary of Armenian genocide approaches, the government, let alone facing up to the past, has indulged in a frenzy of casting shadows on the genocide observances and moved Turkey’s traditional Gallipoli celebrations, normally held March 18, to April 22-24.

How do Christians in Turkey and the Middle East judge the AKP government’s course of action?

The effect of Turkey’s refusal to confront the historic tragedy on relations with countries that received the Armenians is not usually discussed. The much-vaunted Turkish model had lost some of its glitter because of Turkey’s reluctance to take steps to face the past and develop solutions to the questions of its own Christian minorities.

Sure, the AKP's initial attempts to normalize with Armenia melted some of the frost with the region's Christians. But when — in the course of Arab uprisings — Christians were targeted by radical groups supported by Turkey, that positive atmosphere was shattered. With Christians once again forced to abandon their homes in Iraq and Syria, their co-religionists in Turkey began to dread a return to their fearful days.

"The AKP government is a major disappointment"

When I asked a Christian entrepreneur from Aleppo trying to make a new start in Istanbul his views about Turkey before and after the Arab Spring, he said, ‘’For us, the AKP government is a major disappointment. Just as Syrian Christians were beginning to feel sympathy for Turkey before the Arab Spring, Turkey did everything possible to turn this sympathy into animosity. Your officials actually worked hard to make Christians remember their old grievances. Believe me, we don’t trust them. We don’t know what is going to happen to us."

Syrian Armenian author Hrach Kalsahakian told Al-Monitor, “Since the Arab Spring, life has been tough for Christians. Their numbers have dwindled even more in Syria and Iraq. Sure, Muslims are feeling the pain also. The Syria situation is enormously complicated. AKP policies have not helped in solving these problems. The Turkish government did not prevent extremist fighters from entering the peaceful Armenian town of Kassab. These extremists could not have entered Syria with their guns unless the AKP government allowed them.”

"Christians were delighted" — at first

Journalist-producer Harout Ekmanian, who left Aleppo and moved to the Armenian capital, Yerevan, explained how the Christian attitude toward the AKP has changed: ”At the beginning, like other groups in the Middle East, the Christians were also delighted. But after the Arab Spring, the AKP government exposed its sectarian-religious colors and forgot about its aspiration for regional peace. With the AKP government’s overt and direct support of the Muslim Brotherhood and other fanatical Islamic movements, Christians were marginalized.”

Can Turkey inspire its neighbors without first accounting for the past?

“Never," Ekmanian replied. "Following the political and social upheavals in the Middle East, Turkey adopted a sectarian and provocative approach and revived historic negativities. This shows how halfway measures and flimsy displays of goodwill are not enough to establish lasting good relations. In the Middle East to build dependable, good neighborliness one needs to face the past, recognize it and bear its physical, social, political and financial consequences.”

Armenians worried again

Journalist Serdar Korucu said the AKP government first promised a new era for Christian minorities in Turkey and secured the support of the Istanbul Greek Orthodox Patriarchate. But then there was a reversion to an old Turkish pattern, and the reopening of the Theological School of Halki at Heybeliada was disallowed.

Korucu drew a disturbing picture of the Armenian community for Al-Monitor: “Armenians, because of their painful past, are fluttering like pigeons. History has taught Armenians that on this soil steps forward may easily be followed by steps backward. At the beginning of the 20th century, Armenians were the most ardent supporters of the revolutionary Committee of Union and Progress [CUP]. They paid for it with the Adana massacre of 1909 engineered by partisans of the sultan. Six years later Armenians became the targets of the CUP genocide. Armenians lived through similar steps backward in the 2000s also. Although there have been some positive steps in restoring properties of religious foundations, there are many issues that shake Armenian confidence, such as the claims that the forces that attacked Kassab were supported by Ankara, the targeting of the ancient church of Deir ez-Zor by the [Islamic State] said to be supported by Turkey and changing the date of the Gallipoli observances to overshadow the Armenian genocide anniversary.”

In short, Turkey has been unable to develop a new approach to the Armenian tragedy. Rekindling the pains of the past, and adding to them, have been Armenian journalist Hrant Dink's murder (still unsolved after eight years), the use of Turkish territory by jihadist groups that captured the Armenian town of Kassab last year, Ankara still ignoring Christians' basic demands, neglecting to act on the normalization with Armenia because of Turkey’s demand that Armenia evacuate Nagorno-Karabakh and the conviction of many that jihadists in Syria who have been targeting Christian communities are supported by Turkey.

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watanisy twitterde op zondag 19-04-2015 om 19:05:06 SAA captured Jubb awwad - Hijarat al Kabirah and Hijarat al Saghirah near Khanaser today. https://t.co/ewR8jcrMzd https://t.co/HnxdQCXUWz reageer retweet

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Op zondag 19 april 2015 21:35 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:
Met de repo van Jan Eikelboom over Libië is wel enigszins een parallel te trekken met Syrië. Honderden milities verspreid door het land, die tijdelijk een coalitie vormen tegen Assad, maar zodra die weg is elkaar de hersens in slaan. Zonder overheersende macht zal het land totaal de afgrond instorten, overal zijn wapens en idioten hebben vrij spel. Het is onvoorstelbaar hoeveel heimwee inwoners naar een dictator kunnen hebben en spijt hebben van de revolutie.

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Op zondag 19 april 2015 21:42 schreef Aloulu het volgende:

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En dan is Libie nog minder rampzalig dan Syrie in veel opzichten. In Libie heb je een bevolking met dezelfde religie en stroming, in Syrie is het een echte Balkan. In Libie is het een strijd tussen milities gelieerd aan stammen en gebieden, maar gewone mensen staan daar vaker verder vanaf. Een normale Libier uit Benghazi, Sirte of Tripoli voelt geen vijandigheid vanwege religieuze sekte waar dat in Syrie zeer zeker wel zo is vanwege de Balkanisering die al ver is ingezet.

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Op zondag 19 april 2015 21:51 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Dat ook nog eens ja, eigenlijk een Libanon in het groot. Het is een hopeloze strijd waar zonder hulp of interventie geen einde aan zal komen.