Crisis Oekra�ne - Rusland #156 Een nieuw parlement

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RolandOliphant twitterde op zaterdag 01-11-2014 om 22:24:22 Apparently someone sacked Igor Bezler. Didn't know it was possible to sack Igor Bezler. reageer retweet

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ASLuhn twitterde op zaterdag 01-11-2014 om 23:12:15 Has infamous Gorlovka rebel commander Igor Bezler resigned? Gone 100% rogue after unhappy with Sunday's elections? http://t.co/cDZjutEzV5 reageer retweet

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Media: Igor Bezler ontslag

Volgens een aantal berichten in de media, een van de bekendste commandanten van het leger van Nieuw-Rusland, generaal-majoor van het DNI, de commandant van de People's Militia in Gorlovka Igor Bezler afgetreden.

Bevestigd op hun forum geruchten over het ontslag en de eerste minister van Defensie van de Volksrepubliek Donetsk Igor Fusiliers.

"Ik bevestig het ontslag Bezlera" - zei de ex-minister van het DNI.

De vraag "waar hij nu is," zei Igor strelkov:

"Terwijl de" links "op het schiereiland."

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Sham observer org for Ukrainian separatist strongholds invented day before election

There will be a facsimile of an election Sunday in the Donetsk People’s Republic, which is just a faint facsimile of a state. So it’s fitting that a facsimile of an election observer organisation was invented to watch over the process.

The Agency for Security and Cooperation in Europe, or ASCE, was unveiled Saturday evening at a bewildering press conference here in the centre of this war-battered city. The ASCE’s would-be founder - who was evicted last year from Austria’s far-right Freedom Party - changed the new organization’s name back and forth during the press conference, freely switching between calling it the “Agency” and the “Association.” He also slammed Western governments for not respecting Sunday’s vote, and called for European countries to quit the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (the better-known OSCE) and join his new group since the the OSCE had allegedly shown its political bias by refusing to deploy observers to Donetsk and Lugansk for Sunday’s vote.

But the ACSE’s frontman, Ewald Stadler, also admitted he had only been in Donetsk for “five minutes” and fumbled a question about how many monitors the new group would be able to deploy to observe the vote (though he bragged that one of his monitors was an American citizen who was the “grand-nephew of Martin Luther King.”)

The elections Sunday in the Donetsk People’s Republic and adjacent Lugansk People’s Republic were already going to be controversial, even without the advent of the ASCE to watch over them. The votes have been condemned by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and most Western governments as a stage-managed sham, though Moscow has already indicated it will recognize them.

The idea of holding elections here is as astonishing and surreal as almost everything about the Donetsk People’s Republic.

Heavy gunfire and shelling could be heard throughout the day, hours before those who haven’t joined the refugee exodus from Donetsk and Lugansk will be asked to choose directly elected prime ministers and “people’s councils.” There’s little question over who will win, with Aleksandr Zakharchneko, the main separatist leader, and his party - the Donetsk People’s Republic - being by far the most visible candidates. The incumbents are also expected to coast to victory in smaller Lugansk.

Complicating the job of any election observation mission, there’s no list of eligible voters in the territories under the separatists’ control, nor a decent estimate of how many people still live in the region.

But Dennis Pushilin, the first head of state of the DPR - and the man who proclaimed its independence following an equally controversial referendum in April - said in an interview that the elections were necessary to give legitimacy to the agenda of creating an independent state.

“We’re moving to the next step. The revolution period has already passed, and now we’re building a new state and we have a lot to do,” he said in what used to be the local Coal Ministry and is now the office of the “People’s Front of Novorossiya,” an organization dedicated to unifying the areas of Donetsk and Lugansk under separatist control. “Novorossiya,” or “New Russia,” is a Tsarist-era term frequently used by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Saturday was a tense day in Donetsk, with heavy fighting around Donetsk’s airport, and multiple sightings of an unmarked military convoy approaching the city from the east. But Mr. Pushilin - a 33-year-old with a murky background including times as a Ponzi scheme salesman - said he believes the ceasefire agreed to in September between the Ukrainian government and the separatist leadership can hold and become something more permanent.

If the ceasefire holds, the next step will be to rebuild the war-damaged region and try and make it attractive enough to lure other Russian-speaking areas of Ukraine into joining it.

“Our main goal is to reconstruct [Donetsk and Lugansk], to build the state system to increase salaries and pensions, and improve our industries. We need to make Novorossiya attractive to other residents of the former Ukraine,” he said.

“I think after several years Europe will realize that we are not separatists, that we are integrating into the greater Russian world. Our goal is not to build a border in the west, but to break down the border in the east.”

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Op zondag 2 november 2014 08:05 schreef Smack10 het volgende:

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Dus de V.S. bepaalt dat alleen de verkiezing die ze zelf in scene hebben gezet door de hele toestand daar te voeden legitiem is.

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myroslavapetsa twitterde op zondag 02-11-2014 om 12:57:38 DNR uses old Soviet trick - selling cheap food on elex day.Kilo of veggies costs 8 US cents-via Ekaterina Sergatskova http://t.co/YDrxbXHmaB reageer retweet

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RolandOliphant twitterde op zondag 02-11-2014 om 06:16:37 Zakharchenko has arrived to vote. In a suit rather than camo, with wife. A politician rather than a soldier today. reageer retweet

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maxseddon twitterde op zondag 02-11-2014 om 09:43:06 Voting underway in the bombed-out village of Petrovskoe, near Saur-Mogila. http://t.co/Q6LPEOz9O0 reageer retweet

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NatVasilyevaAP twitterde op zondag 02-11-2014 om 10:16:30 Rebel commander Givi voting at the airport: http://t.co/BUQDEfBiZf reageer retweet

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ASLuhn twitterde op zondag 02-11-2014 om 12:41:00 Venetian secessionist from Berlusconi's party observes Donetsk election looking like a boss #rebelvote @EvgenyFeldman http://t.co/GtkeFkqlBY reageer retweet

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NatVasilyevaAP twitterde op zondag 02-11-2014 om 12:58:38 It's hard to estimate the turnout in the rebel election here in Donetsk: 2 reasons 1/2 reageer retweet

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NatVasilyevaAP twitterde op zondag 02-11-2014 om 12:59:19 First, there are no electoral rolls to rely on; second, compared to Ukr elex here years ago the number of polling stations is much lower reageer retweet

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NatVasilyevaAP twitterde op zondag 02-11-2014 om 12:59:51 thus, the sight of the long lines of people outside some polling stations is deceiving. reageer retweet

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NatVasilyevaAP twitterde op zondag 02-11-2014 om 13:57:35 The election day in rebel-controlled eastern Ukraine. what we have seen so far: http://t.co/J8aeVIZu2F reageer retweet

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Op zondag 2 november 2014 10:33 schreef Solstice1 het volgende:

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Wat boeit het nog wat Rusland vindt? Die liegen, bedriegen en moorden rustig verder. Zou ik me als EU, Oekra�ne en andere partijen echt niet meer druk om maken.

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Op maandag 3 november 2014 01:03 schreef Smack10 het volgende:

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Wie was het conflict ook alweer gestart?

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shelomovskiy twitterde op zondag 02-11-2014 om 19:15:16 Off exit polls: Zakharchenko - 81.37%, his #Donetsk rep. party - 65.11%. Observers: no violations, everythng is according to eu practice reageer retweet

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myroslavapetsa twitterde op zondag 02-11-2014 om 23:31:30 #Moscow "respects" the second separatist vote after May, says it's ready for "constructive" steps. Sadly, Ukraine know what it means. War reageer retweet