Crisis Oekraïne - Rusland #150 De kwetsbare oligarchie

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 19:55 schreef DeJori het volgende:

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Nogmaals, als je tegen de misdaden van Amerika bent getuigd het van consequentie nu ook tegen die van Rusland te zijn.

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 19:59 schreef SadPanda het volgende:

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Ik zie nu alleen geen misdaden door Rusland.

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 19:59 schreef SadPanda het volgende:

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Ik zie nu alleen geen misdaden door Rusland.

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 20:03 schreef SadPanda het volgende:
Gorbatsjov was naïef en dacht dat het westen geen nieuwe 3e wereld Oorlog zou willen.

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 20:02 schreef Nintex het volgende:
Ik zou zeggen, als dat pact over het oostblok zo belangrijk en bindend was dan hadden de Sovjets dat wel op papier gezet en laten tekenen door de president.

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 19:45 schreef DeJori het volgende:

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Dus je hebt geen bron, en wat je roept slaat ook nog eens nergens op omdat het compleet voorbij gaat aan het zelfbeschikkingsrecht van voormalig oostblok landen.

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Dear friends,

I have heard the news that Igor Strelkov has been found dead, apparently hanged. A lot of you have emailed me. While I cannot prove a negative, so far NOT A SINGLE RUSSIAN OR NOVORUSSIAN SOURCE HAS CONFIRMED THIS including his friend el-Miurid. So I suggest that we take a deep breath, say a prayer, and wait before coming to conclusions

Also, I am working on my analysis and I should have it posted by this evening (US East Coast time).

The Saker

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 20:23 schreef meth1745 het volgende:

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http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.it/2014/09/short-news-update.html

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 20:23 schreef meth1745 het volgende:

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http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.it/2014/09/short-news-update.html

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EU and Ukraine suspend historic trade pact

BRUSSELS - Ukraine and the EU are to delay the entry into life of a landmark free trade treaty for more than one year due to Russian concerns.

The trade pact was originally due to enter into force on 1 November.

But following a series of meetings between European Commission trade chief Karl De Gucht, Ukraine’s foreign minister, and Russia’s economy minister in Brussels on Friday (12 September) it will now be implemented on 31 December 2015.

Defending the deal, De Gucht told press it means Russia will not impose trade sanctions on Ukraine in the next 15 months.

He also said it is “advantageous to your country [Ukraine]” because the EU will extend its low tariff regime for Ukrainian exports in the same period while Ukraine can continue to impose traiffs on EU goods.

He said the decision was made due to the “very difficult economic situation in Ukraine”.

He added: “This is part and parcel of the comprehensive peace process in Ukraine”.

When asked if the content of the EU free trade treaty can be changed in the run-up to December next year, he replied: “We will discuss everything that is brought to the table”.

The trade treaty is 5kg worth of technical documents, but it has deep symbolic value in Ukraine.

Hundreds of people died in the “Euromaidan” revolution in February when Ukraine’s former leader decided not to sign it.

Thousands more died after Russia attacked Ukraine to stop it from joining Western blocs.

One Kiev-based EU diplomat told EUobserver the De Gucht news has caused “shock, astonishment”.

He noted that European Commission head Jose Manuel Barroso and Ukraine president Petro Poroshenko had earlier the same day spoken of ratifying the treaty on 16 September and implementing it on 1 November.

Barroso has on several occasions said Russia cannot have a veto on EU-Ukraine ties.

Referring to the Brussels talks in Kiev on Friday, he said only it will “hopefully, [be] meeting some Russian concerns”.

Poroshenko said in Kiev he had asked the EU side to “defer” the lifting of Ukrainian import tariffs on EU goods and some deadlines on meeting EU food safety standards.

He ruled out changing the content of the text, however.

Back in Brussels, De Gucht noted that ratification will still go ahead on 16 September “to my understanding”.

The EU earlier on Friday imposed economic sanctions on Russia over its invasion of east Ukraine and Russia has threatened to retaliate with “asymmetric” measures.

But De Gucht said he did not discuss the sanctions with the Russian minister because they are “out of [his] remit”.

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War_Reporter_NL twitterde op vrijdag 12-09-2014 om 20:22:49 #Ukraine The second Russian humanitarian convoy is going to #Lugansk the 13 of September.http://t.co/0xoxcLAm0A http://t.co/FR8L6AO56e" reageer retweet

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 20:27 schreef Gabrunal_2013 het volgende:
Omstreden, maar toch iemand met een grote verdienste voor ons land.

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Ukraine Rebels Need NATO Veto to End War: Ex-Putin Envoy

Ukraine needs to give its regions veto power over future membership in NATO and the European Union to finally end the uprising by pro-Russian separatists in the east, a former envoy of President Vladimir Putin said.

The easternmost Donetsk and Luhansk regions, where Russian is the main language, should also be granted greater control over their security forces, similar to the devolution of power in the Balkans after the breakup of Yugoslavia, as well as their finances, Vladimir Lukin said in an interview in Moscow.

“Eastern Ukraine, or most of it, as far as I’m aware, doesn’t want to be part of NATO,” said Lukin, who represented Russia at February talks in Kiev between then-President Viktor Yanukovych and opposition leaders who later ousted him. “Russia is also against this, but the main thing is that eastern Ukraine is opposed and has made it abundantly clear,” he said, stressing that he was speaking in a personal capacity.

In those talks, which were also attended by the foreign ministers of Germany, France and Poland, Yanukovych agreed to hold early presidential elections by December and form a national unity government. Within hours, though, the threat of a violent overthrow forced him to flee Kiev for Russia in what Putin later called a far-right coup.

NATO, Crimea

Putin and Yanukovych’s successor, Petro Poroshenko, last week reached an agreement that paved the way for a Sept. 5 cease-fire accord that included vague pledges to decentralize power. Putin has railed against the eastward expansion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, formed in 1949 in part to counter the Soviet Union, and cited concern over neighboring Ukraine’s possible membership in the U.S.-led military bloc when he annexed Crimea in March.

Poroshenko, 48, has indicated he’s ready to grant more autonomy in the east, though he hasn’t provided details. He said he’ll send a draft law on “temporary self-governance in certain districts of Luhansk and Donetsk” to parliament next week, while ruling out independence for those regions.

Lukin, 77, Russia’s ambassador to the U.S. in 1992-1994, said one way to ensure that Donetsk and Luhansk have the ability to block Ukraine’s membership in NATO, as well as the EU, is to introduce constitutional changes requiring that such actions be supported by a majority of the populations of each region.

‘Very Simple’

“The guarantees for eastern Ukraine are very simple,” Lukin said in the Russian capital. “Each region must have the right to express its will. This is my personal view, of course. It’s not up to me.”

Lukin, a founder of the pro-democracy Yabloko political party in the 1990s, stepped down as Russia’s human rights commissioner in March after serving two Kremlin-appointed five-year terms. He helped free international observers held by the rebels in Ukraine in May and June, on the first occasion traveling to Slovyansk in person to negotiate their freedom. He’s currently the president of the Russian Paralympic Committee.

Introducing direct elections for governor and ending the current practice of appointment by the central government could also help ensure the peace, Lukin said. That could be accompanied by allowing the regions to retain most of the taxes they collect, he said, since Donetsk and Luhansk, which make up the industrial and coal-producing heartland known as Donbas, believe they’re giving more to Kiev than they’re getting.

‘Monolithic State’

“A monolithic state is a leftover of the Stalinist model of development, when even such questions as how many boxes of nails should be sent from Vladivostok to Petropavlovsk are decided by the Politburo,” Lukin said. “This is an acute problem for Russia, too.”

The insurgents, backed by what Ukraine, the U.S. and NATO say are Russian troops, intelligence, artillery and tanks, reversed gains by government forces last month, leading Poroshenko to negotiate the current truce. Putin has repeatedly denied any Russian government involvement in the conflict, which has left more than 3,000 people dead and a million more displaced, according to the United Nations.

Putin’s spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, said he wasn’t aware of any proposals on making Ukrainian membership in NATO and the EU contingent on referendums in each region, declining to comment if Russia would support that position. Poroshenko’s spokesman, Svyatoslav Tsegolko, couldn’t be reached for comment on his mobile phone.

Figuring out what to do with the rebel militias once peace is achieved is “one of the toughest questions” to resolve, according to Lukin.

Yugoslav Wars

“But in the history of conflicts such examples do exist,” he said. “It’s happened in the Balkans, and also in Africa.”

After the end of the wars in the former Yugoslavia in the 1990s, the Bosnian Serb part of Bosnia-Herzegovina, Republika Srpska, kept its own police force though it integrated its army with Bosnia in 2005.

“I have always been in favor of the European choice for Russia,” said Lukin. “I’ve always said that the only path of European integration for Ukraine is in coordination” with Russia. “This is a sovereign decision, but it should be coordinated with Russia to make it successful and effective.”

Between 1999 and 2009, NATO admitted 12 eastern European countries, including members of the Warsaw Pact and the three former Soviet Baltic republics of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. Ukraine’s Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk last week urged parliament to adopt a bill on seeking to join the alliance, after NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen predicted Ukraine would eventually become a member.

Special Status

Ukraine wants a special status as a major non-NATO ally, something that 50 countries in the world have, Poroshenko said today at the Yalta European Strategy conference in Kiev.

“This is about security, not about future membership -- let’s not politicize the NATO factor,” the Ukrainian leader said. “This is a sovereign and unique choice of the Ukrainian people. But now we are not talking about NATO, we are talking about establishing peace and stability.”

Most inhabitants of Donetsk and Luhansk, fearful of “abruptly” cutting ties with Russia, are against joining both NATO and the EU, Lukin said.

Putin last year offered Yanukovych a $15 billion bailout after he backed out an EU trade deal and tilted toward Russia’s rival bloc with Belarus and Kazakhstan. The reversal on closer integration with Europe sparked protests in Kiev that led to Yanukovych’s ouster and Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

“The main problem is that the authorities in Kiev are committed to moving along the European path, which doesn’t suit eastern Ukraine,” Lukin said. Negotiations will be “very tough and take a long time.”

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 20:38 schreef Gabrunal_2013 het volgende:
huh hoe voeg je een tweet toe?

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Ukrainian authorities raid newsroom, bar entry to Russian journalists

New York, September 11, 2014--The Committee to Protect Journalists condemns today's raid by Ukrainian security agents on the independent newspaper Vesti as well as moves by Ukrainian authorities to bar entry to dozens of Russian journalists and media workers.

Around 11 a.m. today, agents from the security service known as SBU searched Vesti's newsroom in Kiev and confiscated its computer servers, shutting down the newspaper's website.

According to news reports and the Kiev-based press freedom group Institute of Mass Information, the SBU conducted the search as part of a criminal investigation into the newspaper's alleged violations of Ukraine's territorial integrity. The crime of violating territorial integrity carries punishment of up to five years in prison, according to Ukraine's criminal code.

In a statement, an SBU spokesman confirmed that the raid was conducted in connection to the investigation, but did not explain which actions by Vesti or its staffers are alleged to have violated Ukraine's territorial integrity. Local journalists told CPJ that Vesti has a pro-Russian stance.

According to the Institute of Mass Information, Igor Guzhva, Vesti's chief editor, posted on his Facebook page that the accusations stem from interviews with pro-Russia separatists in the eastern Donetsk and Lugansk regions. He said the articles were originally published by the Russian independent news website Russkiy Reporter, and his newspaper re-published them in April and July.

"We call on Ukrainian authorities to stop harassing Vesti and to return all of the newspaper's confiscated equipment," said Muzaffar Suleymanov, CPJ's Europe and Central Asia research associate. "The authorities should also allow Russian journalists into the country to cover the conflict--the public can decide which reports to trust."

In May, Ukraine's fiscal police raided Vesti's newsroom and briefly disrupted journalists' work after accusing the newspaper of money laundering. According to today's SBU statement, authorities concluded that investigation and filed its findings with a Kiev court, which will decide whether to proceed with a case, local press reported.

Also today, Yuri Artemenko, head of Ukraine's National Council on Television and Radio, announced that the SBU has banned 35 Russian journalists and media workers from entering Ukraine, the Institute of Mass Information reported. Ukrainian media said the 35 came from a list of 49 journalists and media workers that Artemenko put forward to the SBU in August. Artemenko did not name the journalists or explain the reasons behind the ban, but said they are barred from Ukraine for three to five years, reports said.

The conflict in Ukraine--which has claimed lives of at least seven journalists and media workers--has also opened a deep divide among regional journalists, CPJ found in a fact-finding mission to Kiev in July. According to international news outlets and Ukrainian journalists, Russian news outlets--the majority of which are controlled by the Kremlin--have waged a propaganda war against Ukraine, while many Ukrainian journalists have sided with authorities under the banner of war against pro-Russia separatists rather than holding their government to account.

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sbobkov twitterde op vrijdag 12-09-2014 om 21:33:03 #Bundeswehr Leopard 2 tanks are spotted in Western #Ukraine. "NATO military exercises"? http://t.co/qxAihqFfRh reageer retweet

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W/S Vladimir Putin entering room
SOT, Vladimir Putin, President of Russia (in Russian): “With regards to the sanctions that were imposed today – or yesterday – it all looks a bit weird to many, even considering that this whole idea of using sanctions as a tool looks weird in the first place.”
M/S Reporters in the room [CUTAWAY]
SOT, Vladimir Putin, President of Russia (in Russian): “On the one hand, the situation is gradually improving, and there is some hope of a peaceful settlement, but at the same time they are taking steps that basically seek to derail the peace process. Why would they do that? You know, sometimes I have this strange idea. It occurs to me that nobody really cares about Ukraine. They are just using Ukraine as a tool to destabilize the world situation. They use Ukraine as a tool, just because certain countries want, say, to revive NATO, and not just as a military alliance but as a key instrument of the US foreign policy intended to attract new client states.”
M/S Reporters in the room [CUTAWAY]
SOT, Vladimir Putin, President of Russia (in Russian): “With regards to our response, the government is currently considering our options, but even if we do take certain steps, our only goal will be to create better conditions for ourselves.”
M/S Reporters in the room [CUTAWAY]
SOT, Vladimir Putin, President of Russia (in Russian): “Finally, with regards to the blacklist, I welcome this decision by the EU. After all, the less time our government officials and corporate executives spend traveling abroad and the more time they devote to their direct responsibilities, the better. The same goes for State Duma deputies. They should spend more time communicating with their voters instead of basking in the sun at some foreign resort.”
W/S Vladimir Putin in front of reporters

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"I asked President Barroso for help regarding a possible delay of the reduction in new customs tariffs for incoming European products to Ukrainian markets," Poroshenko told reporters here after his meeting with Barroso.

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 23:23 schreef SadPanda het volgende:
Duitsland is dus Oekraïne binnen gevallen.

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 23:23 schreef SadPanda het volgende:
Duitsland is dus Oekraïne binnen gevallen.

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 23:23 schreef SadPanda het volgende:
Duitsland is dus Oekraïne binnen gevallen.

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 23:32 schreef Nintex het volgende:

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Vandaag Lviv, morgen Kiev, volgende week Moskou

Jetzt geht's los! mit dem Panzers

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 23:19 schreef deelnemer het volgende:

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StateOfUkraine twitterde op vrijdag 12-09-2014 om 21:31:39 Reports of Russian forces storming #Donetsk airport in largest assault yet. Russian claims of success are unconfirmed. #Ukraine #ceasefire reageer retweet

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MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op vrijdag 12-09-2014 om 22:16:11 #BREAKINGNEWS #Donetsk airport is under heavy Russian #Grad fire tonight.Also the train station is severely shelled.#RusCeasefireViolations reageer retweet

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LIVE: Heavy fighting reported around Donetsk airport

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MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op vrijdag 12-09-2014 om 23:48:35 #BreakingFootage Three Russian BM-21 fire simultaneously from near western-used hotel in central #Donetsk city.https://t.co/U8jx8cpAwp reageer retweet

Our balcony hearing many outgoing Grad / rockets in very center Donetsk Peoples Republic / Ukraine

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 22:39 schreef Nintex het volgende:
Las dat het verdrag tussen de EU en Oekraine is uitgesteld tot 2016 om o.a. tegemoet te komen aan de bezwaren van Rusland. EU gaat Oekraine wel geld lenen voor de wederopbouw.

Op deze foto is het duidelijker te zien dat het om Duitsers gaat:
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en ze zijn in het westen bij Lviv.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 00:10 schreef agter het volgende:

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Zitten er ook Duitsers in die tanks? Of worden ze bestuurd door Oekraïners?

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 00:10 schreef Nintex het volgende:

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Lijkt me stug dat de Duitsers Leopard 2's uitlenen aan Oekrainers.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 00:14 schreef agter het volgende:

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Vraag me ook af of Oekraïners daar wel specifiek voor opgeleid zijn, voor die tanks.
Maar het idee dat Duitsers wellicht slaags gaan raken met Russen, vind ik unheimlich. Vandaar m'n vraag.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 00:20 schreef Nintex het volgende:

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Lijkt mij eerder wat machtsvertoon voor West Oekraine om te laten zien dat ze niet alleen zijn en wat garantie voor als het Azov bataljon o.i.d. toch besluit om zich tegen Kiev te keren.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 00:21 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Wat even, dat van die Duitsers was een grapje toch???

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 00:23 schreef meth1745 het volgende:

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Rapid Trident oefening begint volgende week(?) in West Oekraine.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 00:32 schreef deelnemer het volgende:

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myroslavapetsa twitterde op vrijdag 12-09-2014 om 22:08:28 First EU tightens sanctions on #Russia, then lets #Moscow hijack implementation of AA with #Ukraine. Stunned & angry. http://t.co/hpGDxvFMik reageer retweet

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myroslavapetsa twitterde op vrijdag 12-09-2014 om 22:20:25 #Ukraine MFA comes up with an explanation of today's unexpected AA defeat in Brussels, hails it an act of #EU support http://t.co/fVk3u5gayP reageer retweet

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myroslavapetsa twitterde op vrijdag 12-09-2014 om 22:30:06 #Ukraine deputy FM Danylo Lubkivsky resigns over delay in implementing AA, claims it sends wrong message to everyone, says he was blindsided reageer retweet

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myroslavapetsa twitterde op vrijdag 12-09-2014 om 22:31:09 Deputy FM #Lubkivsky's emotional resignation letter https://t.co/h64VUnkYBQ reageer retweet

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myroslavapetsa twitterde op vrijdag 12-09-2014 om 22:57:45 By delaying implementation of #Ukraine's AA with EU, Brussels shows it has well forgotten why #Maidan started & what its activists died for reageer retweet

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myroslavapetsa twitterde op vrijdag 12-09-2014 om 23:18:16 As Ukraine protesters died on Kyiv streets, Crimea annexed, Donbass invaded, Brussels carried on thinking about Russia's interests. So weak reageer retweet

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myroslavapetsa twitterde op zaterdag 13-09-2014 om 00:28:17 My husband, who majored in history, called delay in implementing Ukraine's AA with EU the new Munich agreement. Dangerous if he's right reageer retweet

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 00:35 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Hoe moet ik dat laatste twitterbericht precies opvatten?

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 00:35 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Hoe moet ik dat laatste twitterbericht precies opvatten?

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 00:38 schreef agter het volgende:

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Tsjechoslowakije werd in 1938 gedeeltelijk 'weggegeven' aan Duitsland. Door Engeland en Frankrijk.
Als ik me niet vergis.