Ebola in West-Afrika niet te stuiten #4

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2014 13:55 schreef Teydelyk het volgende:
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"Illuminati Exposed" | Ebola - What You're Not Being Told

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 11:08 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:
Dat soort onzin is hier beter op zijn plek
BNW / Ebola #2 niet mijn kant op hoesten!

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 11:15 schreef Resonancer het volgende:

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Let niet op de titel, kijk naar de inhoud.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 05:39 schreef svann het volgende:

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Toch vind ik het geen lekker idee dat die artsen niet in quarantaine gaan en in mijn stad vrij rond mogen lopen in afwachting van symptomen.
Ben ik nu ook hysterisch?

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 11:30 schreef Heremeteit het volgende:

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Die artsen weten heus wel hoe ze zich moeten gedragen om besmetting van andere mensen te voorkomen. Ik verwacht dat ze naast de dagelijkse controle vooral thuis zullen zitten.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 11:15 schreef Resonancer het volgende:

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Let niet op de titel, kijk naar de inhoud.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 09:54 schreef michaelmoore het volgende:

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nee?? Europa is toch ook een land

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 10:18 schreef Dingflofbips het volgende:

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Je weigert ook de kern van zn betoog te zien. Het is heel eenvoudig: die hele uitbraak zal in ontwikkelde landen hoogstwaarschijnlijk anders verlopen. Helaas zijn die er weinig in Afrika. Daarnaast zijn de sterftecijfers gebaseerd op de situatie uit diezelfde onderontwikkelde gebieden, dus hoge bias.

Kortom: er bestaat geen gefundeerde reden voor paniek

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 09:49 schreef stbabylon het volgende:

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Ik weiger Afrika als één land te zien, dat slaat echt werkelijk nergens op.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 12:38 schreef MakkieR het volgende:
Wat ik eigenlijk niet begrijp is dat vrijwel elke specialistische arts laconiek is over het Ebola virus, terwijl ik toch echt door films, series, documentaires altijd een beeld heb gekregen van Ebola dat het een alles vernietigende ziekte is. een soort Armageddon verspreid over de wereld.

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What We’re Afraid to Say About Ebola

By MICHAEL T. OSTERHOLM
September 11, 2014

MINNEAPOLIS — THE Ebola epidemic in West Africa has the potential to alter history as much as any plague has ever done.

There have been more than 4,300 cases and 2,300 deaths over the past six months. Last week, the World Health Organization warned that, by early October, there may be thousands of new cases per week in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and Nigeria. What is not getting said publicly, despite briefings and discussions in the inner circles of the world’s public health agencies, is that we are in totally uncharted waters and that Mother Nature is the only force in charge of the crisis at this time.

There are two possible future chapters to this story that should keep us up at night.

1The first possibility is that the Ebola virus spreads from West Africa to megacities in other regions of the developing world. This outbreak is very different from the 19 that have occurred in Africa over the past 40 years. It is much easier to control Ebola infections in isolated villages. But there has been a 300 percent increase in Africa’s population over the last four decades, much of it in large city slums. What happens when an infected person yet to become ill travels by plane to Lagos, Nairobi, Kinshasa or Mogadishu — or even Karachi, Jakarta, Mexico City or Dhaka?

2The second possibility is one that virologists are loath to discuss openly but are definitely considering in private: that an Ebola virus could mutate to become transmissible through the air. You can now get Ebola only through direct contact with bodily fluids. But viruses like Ebola are notoriously sloppy in replicating, meaning the virus entering one person may be genetically different from the virus entering the next. The current Ebola virus’s hyper-evolution is unprecedented; there has been more human-to-human transmission in the past four months than most likely occurred in the last 500 to 1,000 years. Each new infection represents trillions of throws of the genetic dice.

If certain mutations occurred, it would mean that just breathing would put one at risk of contracting Ebola. Infections could spread quickly to every part of the globe, as the H1N1 influenza virus did in 2009, after its birth in Mexico.

Why are public officials afraid to discuss this? They don’t want to be accused of screaming “Fire!” in a crowded theater — as I’m sure some will accuse me of doing. But the risk is real, and until we consider it, the world will not be prepared to do what is necessary to end the epidemic.

1In 2012, a team of Canadian researchers proved that Ebola Zaire, the same virus that is causing the West Africa outbreak, could be transmitted by the respiratory route from pigs to monkeys, both of whose lungs are very similar to those of humans. 2Richard Preston’s 1994 best seller “The Hot Zone” chronicled a 1989 outbreak of a different strain, Ebola Reston virus, among monkeys at a quarantine station near Washington. The virus was transmitted through breathing, and the outbreak ended only when all the monkeys were euthanized. We must consider that such transmissions could happen between humans, if the virus mutates.

So what must we do that we are not doing?

1First, we need someone to take over the position of “command and control.” The United Nations is the only international organization that can direct the immense amount of medical, public health and humanitarian aid that must come from many different countries and nongovernmental groups to smother this epidemic. Thus far it has played at best a collaborating role, and with everyone in charge, no one is in charge.

A Security Council resolution could give the United Nations total responsibility for controlling the outbreak, while respecting West African nations’ sovereignty as much as possible. The United Nations could, for instance, secure aircraft and landing rights. Many private airlines are refusing to fly into the affected countries, making it very difficult to deploy critical supplies and personnel. The Group of 7 countries’ military air and ground support must be brought in to ensure supply chains for medical and infection-control products, as well as food and water for quarantined areas.

The United Nations should provide whatever number of beds are needed; the World Health Organization has recommended 1,500, but we may need thousands more. It should also coordinate the recruitment and training around the world of medical and nursing staff, in particular by bringing in local residents who have survived Ebola, and are no longer at risk of infection. Many countries are pledging medical resources, but donations will not result in an effective treatment system if no single group is responsible for coordinating them.

2Finally, we have to remember that Ebola isn’t West Africa’s only problem. Tens of thousands die there each year from diseases like AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis. Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea have among the highest maternal mortality rates in the world. Because people are now too afraid of contracting Ebola to go to the hospital, very few are getting basic medical care. In addition, many health care workers have been infected with Ebola, and more than 120 have died. Liberia has only 250 doctors left, for a population of four million.

This is about humanitarianism and self-interest. If we wait for vaccines and new drugs to arrive to end the Ebola epidemic, instead of taking major action now, we risk the disease’s reaching from West Africa to our own backyards.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 13:07 schreef SuperHarregarre het volgende:

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Of je negeert even 99% van wat ik zit te tikken. Zit ik hier voor jan lul te tikken ofzo? Dat antwoord is sowieso ja, maar goed.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 14:22 schreef stbabylon het volgende:

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Jij gaat compleet voorbij aan wat ik zei, dus waarom zou ik op jou ingaan...

Ik had het over Afrika niet als één geheel zien. That's it. Het hele verhaal dat we in Europa net zo goed de sjaak kunnen zijn, is een andere discussie die ik al afgerond heb met: we zullen het wel zien.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 14:32 schreef SuperHarregarre het volgende:

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Rot dan op uit discussietopics man. Zo zelfingenomen.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 13:16 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:
Interessant artikel:

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bron

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 14:33 schreef stbabylon het volgende:

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Jullie mogen er over doorgaan, dat zeg ik niet. Maar ik heb er geen zin meer in. Kan toch gewoon, of ben ik verplicht om dingen te doen waar ik geen zin in heb?

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 14:35 schreef SuperHarregarre het volgende:

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Dan reageer je toch niet. Ik ga namelijk helemaal niet voorbij aan wat jij zegt. Maar goed, we zullen het zien inderdaad. Of eigenlijk we zullen het niet zien want er gaat geen reet gebeuren hier in Europa.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 13:44 schreef Pleun2011 het volgende:
Klopt het dat de Nederlandse arts die mogelijk besmet is wordt overgebracht naar het LUMC in Leiden? Lekker is dat.. is in mijn achtertuin

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REEUWIJK - Nick Zwinkels, één van de twee Nederlandse artsen die mogelijk ebola hebben opgelopen in Sierra Leone, kan voorlopig waarschijnlijk thuis worden opgevangen. Hij moet 21 dagen lang elke dag zijn lichaamstemperatuur meten.
Daarnaast moet Zwinkels controleren of hij bijvoorbeeld koorts, hoofdpijn of spierpijn krijgt. Dat zijn de symptomen van ebola. Pas als hij die verschijnselen krijgt, kan de arts andere mensen besmetten. Hetzelfde geld voor zijn collega Erdi Huizenga.

Zolang de artsen geen ebola-symptomen vertonen, mogen ze ‘gewoon deelnemen aan het dagelijks leven', laat het Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieu (RIVM) weten. Als de twee mensen ziek worden, moeten ze geïsoleerd worden opgenomen in een ziekenhuis. Een officieel erkend medicijn tegen ebola is er nog niet. Patiënten moeten vooral uitzieken.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 14:36 schreef stbabylon het volgende:

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Gast, jij reageert op mijn opmerking over Afrika, daar reageer ik op terug. Easy. Ik laat Europa uit de vergelijking, en jij komt butthurt roepen dat ik je negeer boehoe.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 14:34 schreef Eyjafjallajoekull het volgende:

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Aan de andere kant, als onze overheid uit voorzorg vaccins oid besteld is het enige wat je hoort dat het een conspiracy is om die shit te kunnen verkopen...

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They don’t want to be accused of screaming “Fire!” in a crowded theater — as I’m sure some will accuse me of doing. But the risk is real, and until we consider it, the world will not be prepared to do what is necessary to end the epidemic.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 14:37 schreef SuperHarregarre het volgende:

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Jongen, ik quotte je laatste post in een reeks van onzinposts van jouw hand. Doe niet zo treurig.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 14:41 schreef stbabylon het volgende:

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Weet je kerel, het is jouw probleem. Ik ga wat zinnigs doen. Doei

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 14:40 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:

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Wat de auteur zegt:

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Ik denk dat je er iig op voorbereid moet zijn dat het virus kan muteren naar een airborn variant. En dan zit je met een heel erg groot probleem toch.
Ik weet bijv. niet welk draaiboek men bij de bevoegde autoriteiten in ons land hierover op de plank heeft liggen....

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 14:43 schreef Bredemug het volgende:

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Ik zou in iedere geval zorgen dat je genoeg ascorbine acid thuis hebt, (puur vit c). Wetenschappelijk gezien wordt ascorbine acid gezien als het meest effectieve supplement tegen elke soort virus, bacterie etc. Vooral als je het in hoge dosis neemt(tot de mate dat je bijna diaree krijgt) werkt het zeer goed. Er is echt veel informatie over dat beschikbaar.

Ter aanvulling: Dat is dus niet hetzelfde als wat je bij de apotheek kan krijgen, of in de supermarkt. Dat is namelijk geen vit c, maar suiker C.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 14:40 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:

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Wat de auteur zegt:

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Ik denk dat je er iig op voorbereid moet zijn dat het virus kan muteren naar een airborn variant. En dan zit je met een heel erg groot probleem toch.
Ik weet bijv. niet welk draaiboek men bij de bevoegde autoriteiten in ons land hierover op de plank heeft liggen....

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 15:03 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:

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Het eerste is onzin, het tweede ook

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 15:04 schreef Eyjafjallajoekull het volgende:

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Is dat ooit wel eens gebeurd dan? Dat de manier van overdracht veranderd? Als je alle 'expert' artikelen even weglaat van de afgelopen dagen en zoekt naar gewone bronnen over virussen dan vind je veelal dat het vrijwel onmogelijk is.

http://www.skyalgae.info/(...)-and-become-airborne

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1) In 2012, a team of Canadian researchers proved that Ebola Zaire, the same virus that is causing the West Africa outbreak, could be transmitted by the respiratory route from pigs to monkeys, both of whose lungs are very similar to those of humans.
2) Richard Preston’s 1994 best seller “The Hot Zone” chronicled a 1989 outbreak of a different strain, Ebola Reston virus, among monkeys at a quarantine station near Washington. The virus was transmitted through breathing, and the outbreak ended only when all the monkeys were euthanized. We must consider that such transmissions could happen between humans, if the virus mutates.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 15:07 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:

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Staat in het artikel:

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Het is wel moeilijk, maar het is al eerder gebeurd.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 15:03 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:

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Het eerste is onzin, het tweede ook

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When a person becomes infected with Ebola, the virus depletes the body's immune cells, which defend against infection, said Derek Gatherer, a bioinformatics researcher at Lancaster University in the United Kingdom, who studies viral genetics and evolution. In particular, the Ebola virus depletes immune cells called CD4 and CD8 T lymphocytes, which are crucial to the function of the immune system, Gatherer said. [5 Things You Should Know About Ebola]

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But if a person's immune system can stand up to this initial attack meaning their immune cells are not as depleted in the first stages of infection then studies suggest they are more likely to survive the disease.

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, August 20, 2014

Can Vitamin C Cure Ebola?

Commentary by Steve Hickey PhD, Hilary Roberts PhD, and Damien Downing MBBS, MSB.

(OMNS Aug 20, 2014) If there were a drug that worked on Ebola you should use it. There isn't. There is only vitamin C. But you must be extremely careful what you believe, because, as it ever was, the Internet is full of dangerous loonies. For coming up to a decade now the OMNS has reported on nutritional therapies; we leave the medical politics to one side and work from the facts. Here are the facts about vitamin C and Ebola.

1. Taking a gram or so of day of vitamin C won't protect you against anything except acute scurvy; it doesn't matter whether the vitamin is liposomal, nano-particles, or even gold-plated. Beware of websites, companies, and Youtube clips making wild and unsubstantiated claims about the efficacy of vitamin C.

2. Clinical reports suggest that taking vitamin C almost to bowel tolerance every day (in divided doses) will help to protect you against all viruses. Reports by independent physicians have been consistent for decades. However, the doctors also stipulated most emphatically that the dose and the way you take it must be right - or it will not work. There is no direct placebo controlled "evidence" that massive doses of vitamin C will work on Ebola, and nobody would volunteer to take part in that study. But massive doses are reported to have helped against every virus it has been pitched against. This includes Polio, Dengue and AIDS, and it even makes vaccination work better. In the 1980s when no other treatment was available it was reported that full blown AIDS could be reversed and the patient brought back to reasonable health.[i,ii]

At risk or worried about Ebola? This is what you should do.

Vitamin C

Vitamin C is the primary antioxidant in the diet. Most people do not take enough to be healthy. While this is true of many nutrients, vitamin C is a special case. Ignore governments telling you that you only need about 100 mg a day and can get this amount from food. The required amount of vitamin C varies your state of health. A normal adult in perfect health may need only a small intake, say 500 mg per day, but more is needed when someone is even slightly under the weather. Similarly, to prevent illness, the intake needs to be increased.

The intake for an otherwise healthy person to have a reasonable chance of avoiding a common cold is in the region of 8-10 grams (8,000-10,000 mg) a day. This is about ten times what corporate medicine has tested in their trials on vitamin C and the common cold. Ten grams (10,000 mg) is the minimum pharmacological intake; it may help if you have a slight sore throat but more (much more) may be needed. To get rid of a common cold, you may need anything from 20 to 60 grams (60,000 mg) a day. With influenza the need might be for 100 grams (100,000 mg) a day. Since it varies from person to person, and from illness to illness, the only way to find out is to experiment for yourself.

Dynamic flow

The problem with oral intakes is that healthy people do not absorb vitamin C well due to something Dr Robert Cathcart called bowel tolerance. [iii] Take too much of the vitamin in a single dose and it will cause loose stools. In good health, a person might be able to take a couple of grams at a time without this problem. Strangely, when a person becomes sick they can take far more without this side effect: as much as 20-100+ grams a day, in divided doses. [iv]

High dose vitamin C has a short half-life in the body. The half-life is the time for the level in the blood plasma to fall back to half its concentration. Until recently, some people claimed that the half-life of vitamin C was several weeks. We have shown that this long half-life applies only to very low doses.[v] By contrast, the half-life for high blood levels is only half an hour. This short half-life means that for high dose vitamin C the period between doses needs to be short - a few hours at most.

The aim is to achieve dynamic flow, to get vitamin C flowing continuously through the body. Dynamic flow requires multiple high doses taken throughout the day. When separated in time, each dose is absorbed independently. Two doses of 3 grams, taken 12 hours apart, are absorbed better than 6 grams taken all at once. Multiple large doses, say 3 grams four times a day, produce a steady flow of the vitamin from the gut, into the bloodstream and out, via the urine. Some of the intake is not absorbed into the blood and stays in the gut, as a reserve against the early onset of illness. As illness begins, the body pulls in this "excess" to help fight the virus.

The idea behind dynamic flow is that the body is kept in a reduced (antioxidant) state, using high doses. There is always vitamin C available, to refresh the body and other antioxidants. Each vitamin C molecule (ascorbic acid) has two antioxidant electrons, which it can donate to protect the body. It then becomes oxidised to dehydroascorbate (DHA). This oxidized molecule is then excreted, so the body has gained two antioxidant electrons. The kidneys reabsorb vitamin C, but not DHA; the vitamin C molecule is absorbed, used up, and then the oxidized form is thrown out with the rubbish.

The effectiveness of vitamin C is not directly proportional to the dose; it is non-linear. There is a threshold above which vitamin C becomes highly effective. Below this level, the effect is small; above it, the effect is dramatic. The problem is that no-one can tell you in advance what intake of vitamin C you need. The solution is to take more - more than you think necessary, more than you consider reasonable. The mantra is dose, dose, dose.

Types of Vitamin C

Straightforward, low cost ascorbic acid is the preferred form of supplement. Vendors may try to sell you "better absorbed" forms with minerals or salts such as sodium, potassium or calcium ascorbate, and so on. These are irrelevant, if not counterproductive, for high intakes. It is worth noting the following:

Timing is more important than form. Two large doses of ascorbic acid taken a little time apart are better absorbed than a single dose of mineral ascorbate.
Mineral ascorbates are salts and do not carry the same number of antioxidant electrons. Ascorbic acid has two electrons to donate while a salt typically has only one. With high doses, the "improved" forms are thus only about half as effective. This is consistent with reports that mineral forms are correspondingly ineffective in combating illness.
Ascorbic acid is a weak acid, much weaker than the hydrochloric acid in the stomach. Mineral ascorbates may be better tolerated, as they make the stomach more alkaline than ascorbic acid. However, an alkaline stomach is not a good idea - there are reasons the body secretes hydrochloric acid into the stomach, including preventing infection. Furthermore, if you are coming down with a haemorrhagic viral infection, mild discomfort will not be something of great concern.
For high intakes, capsules of ascorbic acid are preferable to tablets. This is because tablets are packed with fillers and it is not wise to take massive doses of these chemicals. Check the ingredients - you want to take ascorbic acid and very little else. Bioflavonoids are alright, and the capsules may be made with gelatine or a vegetarian equivalent.
The cheapest way to take ascorbic acid is as powder, dissolved in water. If you do this, use a straw to avoid it getting on the tooth enamel, as it is slightly acidic. You will need a set of accurate electronic scales to monitor the dose. If you do not weigh it carefully, it will be difficult to keep close to bowel tolerance.
Intravenous Vitamin C

Ideally, infected people would be given a continuous intravenous (IV) infusion of massive doses of vitamin C (sodium ascorbate is preferred as ascorbic acid is irritant to veins).

People who are sufficiently ill will not be able to take vitamin C by mouth.
IV provides the highest possible blood levels
IV means continuous drip, not an injection (short half-life)
Unless you are a medical professional who can treat yourself and your family, or are exceptionally rich, IV ascorbate will not be an option in an Ebola outbreak.

Rectal Vitamin C

Rectal administration of sodium ascorbate is a method that can be used in emergencies, and in developing world circumstances, when IV is unavailable or unsuitable. Nurses can quickly be trained to mix 15-30 g of sodium ascorbate in 250-500 ml clean water, and give it by enema. It can be safely and effectively used in children. An enema also removes from the bowel material that may be challenging. This has been done successfully with aboriginal people in the Australian outback.

Liposomes

In healthy people, liposomes help the absorption of oral vitamin C; in some circumstances this is also true for sick people. However, we need to dispel some popular myths.

In a healthy person, higher blood levels (about 600 microM/L) can be achieved using liposomal vitamin C compared with standard ascorbic acid (about 250 microM/L). We were the first to demonstrate this fact experimentally.[vi] However, the two absorption methods are different and if both are used together the resultant plasma levels are additive (something like 600 + 250 = 850 microM/L). Since ascorbic acid is much cheaper than liposomal vitamin C, it is cost effective for a healthy person to start with ascorbic acid and top up with liposomes as required.

When a person becomes ill they can absorb massive doses of standard ascorbic acid, using the dynamic flow approach. So if you are sick, taking a gram of liposomal vitamin C instead of a gram of cheap ascorbic acid will provide little extra benefit. Both will be well absorbed , and the liposome contains sodium ascorbate which is less effective. Liposomes only provide added benefit once the sick person has approached bowel tolerance levels, using standard ascorbic acid.

Liposomal vitamin C is NOT more effective than IV for fighting acute infections. This suggestion is unscientific and unsupported by data. We prefer liposomes for chronic infections and cancer, but this does not extend to acute illness. There is also a lot of hype around the fact that liposomes can be absorbed directly into cells. Many liposomes are absorbed from the gut and pass into the liver, where they are stored and the vitamin C released. Liposomes may also float around in the bloodstream, lymph nodes, and so on, waiting to release their contents or be taken up by cells. But the cells that take up the liposomes are not necessarily those that are most in need of vitamin C. Moreover cells may suffer side effects; liposomes are basically nanotechnology and have additional theoretical issues.

Prevention

To have a reasonable chance of avoiding a major viral infection, a daily intake of at least 10 grams of ascorbic acid is needed. The idea is to start low, taking say 500 -1,000 mg four times a day. Build up the intake to close to bowel tolerance; increased wind and large soft stools will occur before diarrhea signals that bowel tolerance has been exceeded. At this stage, back off the dose a little, to a reasonably comfortable level.

At the first hint of an infection - feeling unwell, itchy throat, fatigue, and so on - take more ascorbic acid. If the hint of impending sickness is mild, take perhaps 5 grams every half hour or even more frequently. Anything more than a hint of infection, take as large a dose as you feel could be tolerated and follow this by taking 5 grams every half hour. The rule is to take as much as you can without going over the tolerated level: you will probably be taking too little, even though you are trying hard to take a massive dose.

If you are already in dynamic flow and want extra protection, then add liposomal vitamin C. Take it at the same intervals as the ascorbic acid; that is several times a day. The limit is once again bowel tolerance - take too much and it will give you loose stools. This will provide the maximum preventive effect, for the lowest cost.

Treatment

We assume that you are not a medical professional and do not have access to IV ascorbate. However, if IV sodium ascorbate is available, it should be given slowly and as continuously as possible. For children, enemas may be the most practical method (we hope to publish practical instructions for this soon). Medical professionals can deal with such things with little difficulty, but others may do more harm than good.

The first important thing is to start the treatment early. The longer a person waits after the initial symptoms, the less effective the treatment will be. Also if the illness is allowed to develop the sick person may become unable to take anything orally.

Once again, the idea is to get dynamic flow going with as much ascorbic acid as can be tolerated. In this case, the doses are massive. Five to ten grams every half hour, through the day, will provide 120 to 240 grams a day. Even at this high intake, the blood plasma levels may be low or undetectable; at most 250 microM/L will be achieved. So the question then becomes how much additional liposomal vitamin C the patient can tolerate.

A practical approach would be to start with 5 grams of ascorbic acid and a similar amount of liposomal vitamin C in very frequent doses. Remember the key is dose, dose, dose. More vitamin C!

How it Works

The mechanism of action of high dose vitamin C is known and understood. In normal healthy tissues it acts as an antioxidant. In other tissues, it generates hydrogen peroxide, the chemical that platinum blondes use to bleach their hair. This happens in sick and inflamed tissues, for example in a malignant tumour. The process is typically a form of Fenton reaction, generating free radicals. The oxidation and free radicals arising from the hydrogen peroxide kill bacteria and inactivate viruses. In other words, vitamin C acts as a targeted bleach and antiseptic.

Vitamin C is unique, because it has low toxicity and can be taken safely in massive amounts. Other antioxidants and supplements will not have a similar effect. Do not be confused and think that Echinacea, for example, will help. Yes, there may be supplements and herbs that provide a little immune system support, but this is Ebola we are talking about - get real!

Note, vitamin C is not some magical antitoxin; this idea is a metaphor. A disease such as Ebola is not caused by toxins that are inactivated by vitamin C. Free radicals are not toxins. Oxidants are not toxins. Vitamin C nearly always acts by transferring electrons, as an oxidant or antioxidant. It is just basic chemistry. Also, it does not matter if you have poor dental hygiene, this will hardly affect how massive intakes of vitamin C tackle an acute viral infection.

Interactions

Sugar interferes with the uptake of vitamin C. If you are using vitamin C to combat a viral infection do not eat any sugar or carbohydrates (long chain sugars) or the vitamin C will not be absorbed properly. We stress that this means no sugar and no carbs, at all.

Smoking releases enormous amounts of oxidants and free radicals into the bloodstream. The vitamin C will expend itself, trying to mop up the chemicals from the smoking. We have no moral objections to people smoking: it is a personal choice. However, smoking will hinder even massive doses of vitamin C from preventing infection. Once infected with Ebola, smoking will stop the vitamin C from keeping you alive.

It is sensible also to supplement with a little chelated magnesium, such as magnesium citrate, which helps overcome the (largely theoretical) risk of kidney stones.

The reaction that generates hydrogen peroxide in sick tissues can be enhanced a little by taking selenium with the vitamin C. A little caution is needed as too much selenium will cause diarrhoea, fatigue, garlic breath, and hair and nail loss; severe toxicity can have more severe effects but is hard to achieve. Methylselenocysteine is a less toxic form and this would be our choice. The normal intake is perhaps 100-200 micrograms (0.1-0.2 mg) a day; we would take 400 micrograms a day during an epidemic and up this to 1,000 micrograms (one milligram) a day, at the initial onset of symptoms. It is possible to go up to 3 mg for short periods, with medical supervision.

Other supplements may be synergistic with vitamin C. Alpha-lipoic acid can be taken at reasonably high levels reasonably safely. We would take up to a gram or two a day (1,000-2,000 mg) in the short term. Vitamin K also helps with blood clotting and is safe in the recommended amounts - we would get the highest dose vitamin K2 supplement available. Note vitamin K is contraindicated in those with clotting disease or those on blood thinners such as warfarin.

Contraindications

The only established side effects of ascorbate therapy are wind, loose bowels and chronic good health. There are some contraindications; people with kidney disease, iron overload disease, or glucose-6-phosphatase deficiency should not immediately take high doses of vitamin C. In the setting of an epidemic they can start as we recommend but should increase more cautiously, with appropriate medical monitoring.

Why Put This Out?

People need to know that vitamin C is an option for fighting Ebola, and how it works. There is a great deal of misinformation, particularly on the internet, both from vested interests and from "loonies". Moreover, in an Ebola epidemic vitamin C supplements may be hard to source.

This account is intended for intelligent adults, who can make their own rational decisions and take responsibility for their health. We strongly promote the idea that medicine should be based on rational patients, rather than authoritarian doctors. Doctors are there to provide the information for patients, to help them choose between available options. This is information only - what you decide to do with it is up to you.

In our opinion the use of vitamin C in Ebola is a no-brainer. Get the illness and, it is said, you have at best a 50-50 chance of surviving without vitamin C-based therapy. Corporate medicine has no effective treatment. Furthermore, if a drug were available, it would be untested and almost certainly unavailable to you, dear reader. Vitamin C is considered safe and should do no harm. The cost of treatment is low. The clinical reports of vitamin C in viral infection are that if you get the dose right, you will survive. Vitamin C is known experimentally to inactivate viruses. In the event, we hope people make rational decisions.

For further reading:

There are lots of other sources but these make a good fast start for a person beginning an investigation into the antiviral properties of vitamin C.

Hickey S., Saul A. (2008) Vitamin C: The Real Story, the Remarkable and Controversial Healing Factor, Basic Health. The book gives an easy readable account of the story of vitamin C.

Archive of the Journal or Orthomolecular Medicine. Decades worth of clinical observations and reports on vitamin C are available. http://www.orthomolecular.org/library/jom/index.shtml.

Pubmed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed contains mostly abstracts of medical research papers. Unfortunately, most of these have been selected to exclude observations on high doses of vitamin C.

References:

i Cathcart R. (1984) Vitamin C in the treatment of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS), Medical Hypothesis, 14(4), 423-433. http://www.mall-net.com/cathcart/aids.html

ii Brighthope I, Fitzgerald P. (1988) The AIDS Fighters, Keats.

iii Cathcart R. (1981) Vitamin C, Titration to Bowel Tolerance, Anascorbemia, and Acute Induced Scurvy, Medical Hypothesis, 7, 1359-1376. http://www.mall-net.com/cathcart/titrate.html http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html

iv Cathcart R. (1985) Vitamin C, the nontoxic, nonrate-limited antioxidant free radical scavenger, Medical Hypothesis, 18, 61-77. http://www.mall-net.com/cathcart/nonrate.html http://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/nonrate.htm

v Hickey D.S. Roberts H.J. Cathcart R.F. (2005) Dynamic Flow: A New Model for Ascorbate, J Orthomolecular Med, 20(4), 237.

vi Hickey S. Roberts H. and Miller N.J. (2008) Pharmacokinetics of oral ascorbate liposomes, J Nutritional Environmental Med, July, 10. 1080/13590840802305423.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 15:09 schreef michaelmoore het volgende:

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http://en.ird.fr/the-medi(...)al-immunity-to-ebola

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 09:56 schreef michaelmoore het volgende:

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Het is wel besmettelijk, maar geen dodelijk virus voor gezonde mensen
mensen met een goed immuunsysteem die krijgen het niet of genezen zeer snel en is het gewoon een korte koorts

En de meest landen in Afrika hebben een jonge zeer sterke populatie
Het is niet de pest

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 15:10 schreef Bredemug het volgende:

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 15:23 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:

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Heel serieuze bron ook, geen onderzoek maar een mening,

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 15:26 schreef Bredemug het volgende:

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Echt, ongelofelijk hoe groot die blok muur is voor je hoofd. Een wetenschappelijk studie een mening noemen(en dat is er maar 1 naast de 100 anderen), echt gooi je ego eens een keer opzij man en sta open voor mogelijkheden met een kritische houding. Hoe hoop jij ooit de definitie van waarheid te kennen, als je elk bron van informatie tegen een muur aan gooit. Als je een volle beker hebt, wat is dan de waarde van kennis voor jou? Kennis is oneindig.

Maar goed. Ieder zijn pad denk ik dan.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 15:26 schreef Bredemug het volgende:

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Echt, ongelofelijk hoe groot die blok muur is voor je hoofd. Een wetenschappelijk studie een mening noemen(en dat is er maar 1 naast de 100 anderen), echt gooi je ego eens een keer opzij man en sta open voor mogelijkheden met een kritische houding. Hoe hoop jij ooit de definitie van waarheid te kennen, als je elk bron van informatie tegen een muur aan gooit. Als je een volle beker hebt, wat is dan de waarde van kennis voor jou? Kennis is oneindig.

Maar goed. Ieder zijn pad denk ik dan.

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Scientists do not fully understand why some Ebola patients recover and others succumb. Prior to the current outbreak, Ebola was considered a rare disease and clinical information is limited.

Some anecdotal case reports from the current outbreak in west Africa suggest that age and the presence of comorbidities are associated with a poor prognosis.

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 12:35 schreef stbabylon het volgende:

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Hoe kun je in hemelsnaam de grenzen in Zuid-Afrika op slot doen, vanwege een virus uitbraak in West-Afrika. Ter vergelijking, let even goed op, dat is hetzelfde als hier in Nederland de grenzen dicht doen omdat er, wait for it, in fucking Hong Kong iemand ziek is. Zie je nu in hoe belachelijk de uitspraak: in heel Afrika de grenzen dicht is??

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 23:28 schreef Dingflofbips het volgende:

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Daar gaat het dan ook niet om in de letterlijke zin des woords

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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 23:13 schreef YazooW het volgende:
Laatste Frontline documentaire is behoorlijk interessant en shocking. Ze lopen mee bij een noodhospitaal van MSF waar dagelijks mensen dood gaan. Ze gaan op pad met medewerkers van de WHO die op zoek gaan naar besmette mensen, dit moeten zij doen zonder beschermende kledij omdat ze daarmee de lokale bewoners afschrikken. Maar ook zonder beschermende kledij rennen veel mensen weg als ze zien dat de WHO het dorp komt binnen rijden. Besmette mensen worden door de dorpelingen weg gehouden van de WHO, want anders moeten ze mee naar een quarantaine centrum en dat wordt gezien als een 100% kans op de dood. Bewoners van Kenema (3e stad van Sierra Leone) die een ziekenhuis aanvallen omdat er een of andere mafkees op de radio loopt te roepen dat Ebola een hoax is dat wordt gebruikt om het bloed van mensen stelen. Ze proberen de zieke Ebola patiënten uit het ziekenhuis te bevrijden.

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Trailer:

EBOLA OUTBREAK | Inside the World's Deadliest Outbreak

Je kan de PBS site proberen maar daar krijg je waarschijnlijk de melding dat hij niet beschikbaar is in Nederland. Torrent: Frontline S32E14 , 480p en 720p staan online.

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Op zondag 14 september 2014 02:56 schreef stbabylon het volgende:

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sure dude

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Op zondag 14 september 2014 09:15 schreef LXIV het volgende:

Mathematical Model Shows How Ebola Will Spread: "Worse Case Scenario... An Extinction Event"

Wiskundig model van een mogelijke verspreiding van Ebola. Uiteindelijk zit je alleen op Antartica en Madagascar goed.

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Op zondag 14 september 2014 09:35 schreef Zemi77 het volgende:

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Ik denk toch dat je in Nederland beter zit dan op madagascar. De fruit bats migreren ook over madagascar.

Overigens acht ik de kans op een of meerdere ebolagevallen in Nederland inmiddels vrij hoog, maar tot een uitbraak zal het niet leiden. Daarvoor is onze gezondheidszorg te goed.

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Op zondag 14 september 2014 09:15 schreef LXIV het volgende:

Mathematical Model Shows How Ebola Will Spread: "Worse Case Scenario... An Extinction Event"

Wiskundig model van een mogelijke verspreiding van Ebola. Uiteindelijk zit je alleen op Antartica en Madagascar goed.

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Op zondag 14 september 2014 09:37 schreef Devz het volgende:

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Aangezien er totaal geen maatregelen genomen worden om de verspreiding te beperken lijkt het inderdaad een kwestie van tijd.

Aan de andere kant, in dit model wordt waarschijnlijk geen rekening gehouden met een mogelijk medicijn, wat ergens in 2015 wel beschikbaar zal komen (voor het Westen dan) mocht de epidemie er dan nog steeds zijn.