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Hier ergens liggen beide mijn opa's begraven.quote:Op zaterdag 26 juli 2014 22:35 schreef Charismatisch het volgende:
[ afbeelding ]twitter:p_vanostaeyen twitterde op zaterdag 26-07-2014 om 22:04:06 The Islamic State will level all of these tombs if they'll get remotely close to them ... #Najaf #Iraq #IS http://t.co/ryHxt0CNoL reageer retweettwitter:HistoricalPics twitterde op zaterdag 26-07-2014 om 22:00:16 This is not a city. It's a cemetery. Najaf, Iraq. http://t.co/0clFytWovm reageer retweet
The Islamic State will level all of these tombs if they'll get remotely close to them ... 
This is not a city. It's a cemetery. Najaf, Iraq.
Daar moet ik Baklava wel gelijk in geven; Irakese overheid is net zo erg als IS. Ook zo meedogenloos en vooral discriminerend jegens andere etniciteiten/denkenden.quote:
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Barrel Bomb Attacks Devastate Iraqi Families
Human rights groups are accusing the Iraqi government of indiscriminate bombing. Baghdad officials deny that and note they're fighting a Sunni insurgency that commits mass executions and suicide bombings. Yet rights workers say civilians are being killed by government attacks with so-called barrel bombs — the crude weapons made famous in Syria's current conflict. Barrel bombs are illegal and indiscriminate explosives, packed in things like oil drums or gas cylinders.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/(...)om&utm_medium=social
Dat is allemaal mondjesmaat. De CUP en hun reïncarnatie de CHP hebben miljoenen mensen onderworpen aan genocide, massa deportaties en gedwongen assimilatie en ze zijn ermee weg gekomen en zijn in hoofdlijnen zeer succesvol geweest.quote:Op zaterdag 26 juli 2014 22:35 schreef Baghdaddy het volgende:
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Ik denk niet dat Ataturk zijn zin gekregen heeft als je de huidige pro-Koerdische veranderingen in Turkije ziet.
Het aantal Grieken is op twee handen te tellen, de Lazische taal is over een generatie uitgestorven, het Arabisch loopt zeer snel terug. De Koerden bieden weerstand (en met de recente hervormingen, eindelijk na dik 80 jaar, gaat dat makkelijker) maar miljoenen Koerden spreken niet eens hun eigen taal.
Ik persoonlijk als conservatief zijnde heb groot respect voor traditie en regionalisme. Dus ik walg van het gedachtengoed van mensen zoals Robbespiere of Atatürk die mensen van bovenaf vertellen hoe ze moeten leven.
Goed.quote:
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Zo kom je anders niet over. Dan zul je daar toch maar eens op moeten letten denk ik. Maar goed, als je hier verder over wil debatteren/praten, PM maar. Dit is het Irak topic zoals ik al aangaf.
"But the age of chivalry is gone; that of sophisters, economists, and calculators has succeeded, and the glory of Europe is extinguished forever."- Edmund Burke
Ik zou niet alles meteen voor waar aannemen. Ze haddem eerder zogenaamd beeld van barrelbombs onder een Irakese Heliktoper, terwijl de foto duidelijk uit Syrië kwam.quote:
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Daar moet ik Baklava wel gelijk in geven; Irakese overheid is net zo erg als IS. Ook zo meedogenloos en vooral discriminerend jegens andere etniciteiten/denkenden.
Boodschap begrepen. E.e.a. gaat nu verder per DM.quote:
"But the age of chivalry is gone; that of sophisters, economists, and calculators has succeeded, and the glory of Europe is extinguished forever."- Edmund Burke
Cool cool cool.quote:
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Boodschap begrepen. E.e.a. gaat nu verder per DM.
Dit dus.. Boodschap inderdaad begrepen. TT graag aanpassen voordat we kapot gebombardeerd worden door Turkse Fok!kers...quote:
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Boodschap begrepen. E.e.a. gaat nu verder per DM.
Jammer. Vond het persoonlijk wel een interresant en leerzame discussie.quote:
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Boodschap begrepen. E.e.a. gaat nu verder per DM.
"It's like my swag just rubbed off on everybody. It was unbelievable."
Is een topic in C&H een idee?quote:Op zaterdag 26 juli 2014 22:52 schreef mrstylo het volgende:
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Jammer. Vond het persoonlijk wel een interresant en leerzame discussie.
ze hebben hun verstand terug en stemmen bdp. Voorheen was er weinig keuze.quote:
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20000 a 40000 naar mijn weten. Tijdens de Sheik Said opstand ook enkele tienduizenden.
De Dersimi's zelf lijken het overigens niet zo erg te vinden getuigen al die Atatürk plaatjes in hun gebedshuizen en hun steun voor de CHP.
Wb Ataturk plaatjes etc; dat komt goed. Het besef komt er.
Jij bent een nuchtere Hollander en ziet dingen niet heel genuanceerd of wat.
Geheel offtopic, maar tja..
Why Iran Fears an Independent Kurdistan
Tehran is increasingly nervous about a potential bid by Iraq’s Kurds for independence. First, an independent Kurdish state next door could incite Iran’s own Kurdish minority, setting a dangerous precedent in the multiethnic country. Second, the two countries likely to have the most leverage over an independent Kurdistan would be Turkey and Israel, Iran’s regional rivals. From Tehran’s perspective, a Kurdish blowback inside Iran and a Turkish and Israeli geopolitical win at its expense has to be thwarted.
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Militant Kurds in Iran previously established independent regions around the time of the First and Second World Wars, while the central authorities in Tehran were too weak to resist. Kurdish militancy continued to simmer throughout the reign of the Shah, and they took up arms against Tehran immediately after the Iranian revolution in 1979. This became a full-fledged insurgency that took a number of years to quell.
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Among its closer rivals, Tehran is principally concerned about Turkey and Israel. Barzani’s close political and economic ties to Ankara are hardly a secret. Even though Turkey is still officially against independence for Iraq’s Kurds—as Barzani was reportedly told when he visited Ankara last week—the prevailing wisdom in Tehran suggests that the Turkish policy on this question is increasingly driven by its desire to counter Tehran’s regional ambitions. The Iranians believe the Turks would rather see Iraq’s Kurds break away than remain in a federal Iraq beholden to the Shia-led, Tehran-backed central government in Baghdad.
Tehran is increasingly nervous about a potential bid by Iraq’s Kurds for independence. First, an independent Kurdish state next door could incite Iran’s own Kurdish minority, setting a dangerous precedent in the multiethnic country. Second, the two countries likely to have the most leverage over an independent Kurdistan would be Turkey and Israel, Iran’s regional rivals. From Tehran’s perspective, a Kurdish blowback inside Iran and a Turkish and Israeli geopolitical win at its expense has to be thwarted.
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Militant Kurds in Iran previously established independent regions around the time of the First and Second World Wars, while the central authorities in Tehran were too weak to resist. Kurdish militancy continued to simmer throughout the reign of the Shah, and they took up arms against Tehran immediately after the Iranian revolution in 1979. This became a full-fledged insurgency that took a number of years to quell.
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Among its closer rivals, Tehran is principally concerned about Turkey and Israel. Barzani’s close political and economic ties to Ankara are hardly a secret. Even though Turkey is still officially against independence for Iraq’s Kurds—as Barzani was reportedly told when he visited Ankara last week—the prevailing wisdom in Tehran suggests that the Turkish policy on this question is increasingly driven by its desire to counter Tehran’s regional ambitions. The Iranians believe the Turks would rather see Iraq’s Kurds break away than remain in a federal Iraq beholden to the Shia-led, Tehran-backed central government in Baghdad.
http://www.powerlineblog.(...)elp-against-isis.phpquote:OBAMA REJECTS KURDS’ PLEA FOR HELP AGAINST ISIS
President Obama famously failed to act when warned that ISIS was preparing to mount an offensive in Western Iraq. This left ISIS free to conquer, with virtually no resistance, city after city in the defense of which American soldiers have shed blood.
Now Obama is receiving new warnings, this time from the Kurds in Northern Iraq. In fact, according to the Washington Post, the Kurds are “pleading for U.S. military aid.”
Unlike the Iraqi government, the Kurds possess a viable military that is prepared to fight ISIS. Indeed, they are fighting ISIS, and fairly effectively.
However, the Kurds now have a 650 mile border to defend, thanks to the abandonment of the area by Iraq’s military forces. Thus, the Kurdish forces are stretched extremely thin.
The Kurds should be receiving a share of the weapons the U.S. is supplying to the Iraqi government. But that, of course, isn’t happening. Mansour Barzani, the Kurdistan Regional Government’s intelligence and security chief, told the Post that Baghdad hasn’t provided “a single bullet.”
Meanwhile, says the Post, the ISIS forces attacking the Kurds have seized weapons worth hundreds of millions of dollars from retreating Iraqi soldiers. In effect, Baghdad is supplying ISIS while providing the Kurds with nothing.
Unfortunately, but not surprisingly, the Obama administration has rejected Kurdish pleas for arms with which to fight ISIS. Its rationale is that assistance must come through the central government.
But the central government is (a) dysfunctional and (b) unwilling to lift a finger to help the Kurds in any case. In fact, the Iraq government’s unwillingness to “play nice” with the Kurds has been part of the Obama administration’s rationale for not doing more to help the government.
Unlike the government of Iraq, the Kurds are ready and willing to inflict defeat on ISIS. With assistance from the U.S. in the form of weaponry, the Kurds would probably be able to inflict that much-needed defeat.
It seems criminal for Obama to deny this assistance in the name of defending the interests of a central government that Obama has condemned for its dealings with the Kurds (among others).
ISIS is looking to establish a caliphate, and making good progress toward that end. Meanwhile, Obama dithers, using the Iraq government’s poor treatment of the Kurds as an excuse for not doing more to help it fight ISIS, and the Kurd’s natural animosity to the government as an excuse for not helping them.
It’s almost as if Obama is indifferent to the progress of ISIS and willing to embrace any excuse for standing idly by in the face of that progress.
"It's like my swag just rubbed off on everybody. It was unbelievable."
Het is allemaal een hoop gebluf, ze gebruiken het als drukmiddel bij onderhandelingen.quote:Op zondag 27 juli 2014 01:43 schreef Reki het volgende:
Wat zijn de kansen dat Irak wordt opgedeeld in 3 delen?
Maliki is in KRG geweest vandaag om met Talabani te meeten.
Dit bewijst maar weer eens wat Amerika's echte doel is in Irak, namelijk zorgen dat ISIS zoveel mogelijk mensen vermoord....Triest.quote:However, the Kurds now have a 650 mile border to defend, thanks to the abandonment of the area by Iraq’s military forces. Thus, the Kurdish forces are stretched extremely thin.
The Kurds should be receiving a share of the weapons the U.S. is supplying to the Iraqi government. But that, of course, isn’t happening. Mansour Barzani, the Kurdistan Regional Government’s intelligence and security chief, told the Post that Baghdad hasn’t provided “a single bullet.”
Meanwhile, says the Post, the ISIS forces attacking the Kurds have seized weapons worth hundreds of millions of dollars from retreating Iraqi soldiers. In effect, Baghdad is supplying ISIS while providing the Kurds with nothing.
Unfortunately, but not surprisingly, the Obama administration has rejected Kurdish pleas for arms with which to fight ISIS. Its rationale is that assistance must come through the central government.
#freefrederike
Een turk is niks beter dan een joods iemand, racistische opmerking.quote:
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Ik ben nieuw hier! play it fair!
Ze zullen de Koerden als te sterk beschouwen en hebben liever dat ze continue verzwakt worden door een bende gekken zodat ze over een paar jaar makkelijker naar Kirkuk kunnen gaan. Verder is Isis verslaan ook makkelijker verkoopbaar natuurlijkquote:Op zondag 27 juli 2014 01:52 schreef PizzaMizza het volgende:
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Dit bewijst maar weer eens wat Amerika's echte doel is in Irak, namelijk zorgen dat ISIS zoveel mogelijk mensen vermoord....Triest.
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Gewoon een bom op al die locaties. Stelletje gestoorde mensen.
"It's like my swag just rubbed off on everybody. It was unbelievable."
Dat zei ik alleen omdat PizzaMizza zich jarenlang heeft voorgedaan als Jood.quote:
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Een turk is niks beter dan een joods iemand, racistische opmerking.
"But the age of chivalry is gone; that of sophisters, economists, and calculators has succeeded, and the glory of Europe is extinguished forever."- Edmund Burke
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Gewoon een bom op al die locaties. Stelletje gestoorde mensen.
Beter gooien ze een bom op al jouw vrienden (Maliki, Shia-milities).
Zodat al-Maliki en al-Assad een concurrent minder hebben en zich kunnen concentreren op de Koerden?quote:
Gewoon een bom op al die locaties. Stelletje gestoorde mensen.
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