Duitsland #1 WELTMEISTER 2014

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Op zondag 6 juli 2014 22:41 schreef superworm het volgende:
Moest vandaag plots hieraan denken. Alleen vuilnismannen dragen oranje

Mickie Krause - Orange trägt nur die Müllabfuhr

Ohne Holland fahrn wir zur WM

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Op zondag 6 juli 2014 23:08 schreef Kingstown het volgende:

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Met dank aan van Gaal....

Ohne Holland fahrn wir zur WM

Joint Venture - Holland

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Op vrijdag 4 juli 2014 20:18 schreef remlof het volgende:

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Dat hoopt bijna iedereen

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Op maandag 7 juli 2014 01:43 schreef remlof het volgende:
Als ze Brazilië er maar uitschoppen dinsdag

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Op maandag 7 juli 2014 00:49 schreef SomaliMan het volgende:
De houding van Duitsers wordt alleen maar erger als ze "Weltmeister" worden.

Also bete ich zum Gott, dass Deutschland diese WM nicht Weltmeister wird !!!

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Op zondag 6 juli 2014 23:11 schreef superworm het volgende:

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Beste anti-NL-lied is toch nog altijd deze:

Nicht weit von uns im Westen, da liegt ein kleines Land,
das ich immer, wenn ich da war, ziemlich überzeugend fand.
Ein Land mit alten Windmühlen und netten kleinen Städten,
mit Bami, Vla, Frikandeln und fritierten Fleischkroketten.

In Edam gibts den Käse und in Amsterdam die Grachten,
ich steh auf Fraun in Holzschuhen und blauweißroten Trachten,
ich komme gern zum Baden und ich bleib auch gern zum Zelten,
ja sie sind tolle Nachbarn, und doch trennen uns Welten.

Ich liebe Superskunk und ich liebe Sauce special.
Aber eine Sache gibts, da bin ich meganational.
Es kam über die Jahre und jetzt sitzt es ziemlich fest.
Solangs um Fußball geht, hasse ich Holland wie die Pest.

Grad bei wichtigen Turniern sollt man sich nicht dafür geniern.
Was kann schlimmeres passiern, als daß wir gegen die verliern?
Beide ham wir unsern Rudi, wir ham ihren nie bespuckt,
ein guter Deutscher denkt europäisch, außer, wenn er kicken kuckt.

Ich liebe Superskunk und ich liebe Sauce special.
Aber eine Sache gibts, da bin ich meganational.
Es kam über die Jahre und jetzt sitzt es ziemlich fest.
Solangs um Fußball geht, hasse ich Holland wie die Pest.

Ich weiß, du bist da schlauer, du bist nicht so ein Prolet,
immer locker, selbst wenns eins null für die Niederlande steht.
Wer sich aufregt wegen Fußball, ist ein armer Idiot.
Fick dich selbst, wenn ich Oranje sehe, seh ich nun mal rot.

Ich liebe Superskunk und ich liebe Sauce special.
Aber eine Sache gibts, da bin ich meganational.
Es kam über die Jahre und jetzt sitzt es ziemlich fest.
Solangs um Fußball geht, hasse ich Holland wie die Pest.
Solangs um Fußball geht, hasse ich Holland wie die Pest.

Joint Venture - Holland

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Op maandag 7 juli 2014 09:29 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Ik kan dit lied moeilijk echt anti-Nederland noemen.

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Op maandag 7 juli 2014 09:42 schreef dick_laurent het volgende:
Een finale NL - DE zou geweldig zijn..... Behalve dat ik vrees dat wij er woensdag tegen Argentinië gewoon uitvliegen, en daarnaast ALS we die finale zouden halen, dan verliezen we 'm waarschijnlijk toch weer, en dat is ook gewoon genant.

Want dan zijn we serieus het enige land dat fucking VIER keer in de finale van een wk heeft gestaan, en VIER keer verloren heeft. Weet je hoe voor lul dat is?

Nee, beter dan gewoon woensdag tegen Argentinië eruit vliegen, dat vind ik dan nog minder genant eigenlijk

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Op maandag 7 juli 2014 09:39 schreef superworm het volgende:

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Het is inderdaad een liefdesliedje, behalve op het gebied van voetbal.

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Op maandag 7 juli 2014 09:42 schreef dick_laurent het volgende:
Een finale NL - DE zou geweldig zijn..... Behalve dat ik vrees dat wij er woensdag tegen Argentinië gewoon uitvliegen, en daarnaast ALS we die finale zouden halen, dan verliezen we 'm waarschijnlijk toch weer, en dat is ook gewoon genant.

Want dan zijn we serieus het enige land dat fucking VIER keer in de finale van een wk heeft gestaan, en VIER keer verloren heeft. Weet je hoe voor lul dat is?

Nee, beter dan gewoon woensdag tegen Argentinië eruit vliegen, dat vind ik dan nog minder genant eigenlijk

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Efficiency is the new old watchword as Germany seek World Cup success
Joachim Löw’s calm, organised and clinical squad draw on strengths of past national teams in bid to lift trophy in Brazil

You’re not a leopard, and it’s not about spots. In Germany, they believe people can, indeed, change, albeit with considerable effort. One has to “jump over one’s own shadow”, the saying goes.

The German national team have done a lot of jumping since Jürgen Klinsmann and Joachim Löw took over in 2004, with the explicit brief to create a different footballing identity. After the 1-0 win over France in Rio – on a Friday afternoon so hot that the inimitable Thomas Müller described it as “playing in a grill shack” – Oliver Bierhoff seemed all too happy to revert back to a bit of shade, however. The general manager’s praise was peppered with anachronistic, unfashionable words that had become all but banned in a decade’s worth of rebranding.

“We were very organised; we filled in for each other; we were well arranged on the pitch; we were calm; we knew what we had to do to win the game,” said the Euro 1996 winner. “That has always been the strength of German teams.”

Bierhoff was so impressed with his side’s composed performance that he went on to link it to the squad’s “perfect travel arrangements”. The off-pitch organisation had been excellent, the 46-year-old continued, with a hint of self-praise. “Everyone knows where to go, nobody gets lost .” One half-expected Bierhoff to confirm that the hotel rooms for next the final, next Sunday’s final had already been reserved, along with the sun loungers at the pool.

This sort of stereotype-affirmative message would have never come out of the camps in 2006 and 2010; escaping the shadows of their recent past had been their most pressing aim. Germany contested the 2002 World Cup almost as a caricature of itself. A team that seemed exclusively made up of holding midfielders edged out meagre, nervy wins against even more mediocre opposition (Paraguay, USA, South Korea) then came up short against Brazil in the final. Michael Ballack was the one outstanding player, but Oliver Kahn was the hero: the obdurate, consistently grimacing goalkeeper became the unwitting symbol of a team that had stopped playing football and excelled only in negating the opposition.

At the 2006 World Cup in Germany, Klinsmann, his team and the whole country successfully sold themselves as a new, humbler, younger, friendlier version of their former selves, complete with the good grace to let Italy go home with the trophy. Four years later, in South Africa, Löw’s thrilling, multicultural youngsters emancipated themselves even further from results-based football, the minimalistic, ultra-efficient style of yesteryear.

But the Germany fans have grown tired of 10 years of entertainment without a happy end. After the incredibly exciting, but uncomfortably chaotic, 2-1 win over Algeria, the mood was about to turn firmly against Löw. The 54-year-old was in danger of going from his country’s foremost expert – in the public’s estimation – to a stubborn man who was ruining the prospects of a golden generation with his tactical intransigence.

Reaching the semi-final, a record fourth in a row for Germany, was the minimum the supporters expected. “Löw has done it,” wrote Süddeutsche Zeitung. Defeat by Brazil in Belo Horizonte on Tuesday might just be forgivable in the eyes of the fans.

The players see things differently though. They found little pleasure in advancing to the final four. “We have been here before,” the captain, Philipp Lahm, said with an air of world (cup) weariness, “so I don’t want to talk about pride. We need to do it this time.” The 30-year-old angrily dismissed questions about the French team creating chances, saying that “it was natural at this level”.

He, like the increasingly pragmatic Löw, is no longer concerned with football niceties. “Win at all costs”, as chancellor Angela Merkel had decreed in a personal message before kick-off, has become the new motto. It was fitting that Mats Hummels’ winning goal had come from a free-kick. Löw used to sneer at calls for more practice of dead balls – not enough time, he said – but this time, it has become a priority in practice. Efficiency is the new, old watchword. Another one is maturity. “You could see that we have a lot of players who have won the Champions League and know what to do, before and during pressure games,” said Bierhoff.

Listening to Müller – who talked at length about the team’s willingness to run for each other, and their clever game management – it was almost as if the clock had been turned back a couple of decades. Germany were quietly pleased that they had managed to reconnect with elements of their inglorious past in Rio de Janeiro, but not at the cost of forsaking recent progress.

“We are a much better side than in 2010,” said Müller. “We have many more options and can still find another level in attack.” He, and the rest of the squad sounded like men who knew exactly what kind of team they play for. That is more than can be said of some of the other sides – and it might just be enough.

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Brazilian voodoo priest to curse Germany ahead of World Cup showdown
Germany will have to contend with black magic as well Brazil's Selecao in Tuesday's World Cup semi-final as a voodoo priest plans to curse die Mannschaft.

Brazil will be without injured superstar Neymar in Belo Horizonte, but black magic enthusiast Helio Sillman from Rio de Janeiro says his curse will hinder Joachim Loew's team in the semi-final.

"I'll take their top player and bind his legs so he can't run on the pitch," said Sillman, referring to the voodoo doll of an undisclosed German player that will be cursed in a ceremony before the game.

In his shop "World of Orixas" in the northern neighborhood of Madureira, Sillman carries out a ritual before each Selecao game.

Using a a small football pitch-shaped box as his alter, he puts inside lit candles in the colours of the opposing team and the voodoo doll of their most important player.

Sillman's curse on James Rodriguez did not stop the Colombian star from scoring in his team's 2-1 defeat to Brazil in Friday's quarter-finals.

And he was powerless to prevent Selecao star Neymar from suffering a fractured vertebrae against the Colombians that has ruled him out of the World Cup.

But Sillman points to Brazil's results against Cameroon, Chile, Croatia and Mexico as testimony to the influence of his magic.

Voodoo dolls representing a player from each of the Selecao's opponents sit in a bowl.

"Those are the four teams that Brazil have overcome," he said.

Germany's Thomas Mueller, Manuel Neuer and Mats Hummels have been warned.

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Op maandag 7 juli 2014 11:47 schreef ShaoliN het volgende:
Ik zie ze eigenlijk niet winnen van Brazilie. Hoewel ze een veel beter elftal hebben.
Ik hoop het wel, maar moet het nog maar zien.

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The World Cup Teaches Germans How To Be Proud Of Germany

If you know anything about German soccer, even if you're a not a hardcore fan and only pay attention when the World Cup steams into town every four years and blows its piercing, un-ignorable whistle, I'm pretty sure you're familiar with the following narrative. It comes from the 2006 World Cup, which of course took place in Germany, and it goes like this. Before the World Cup, Germans were stuck in a kind of patriotic closet, aware that they'd created a beautiful, cultured country, one that ranks favorably in just about any conceivable metric—literacy, healthcare, public transportation, poverty, violent crime, unemployment—but one in which they were unable to openly express pride. The problem had to do with World War II, and the lingering unease that signs of German patriotism would be misinterpreted outside of Germany as proof the country had taken another running start down a slip 'n slide into nationalism or worse. That all changed during the tournament. Germans went to the store, bought flags, and hung them from their windows. It was an act that under different circumstances would have been taboo. They painted their faces red and black and gold and sang songs. The stuffiness for which Germany is stereotypically famous was, for a month at least, gone. People breathed.

You talk to people today, and it's interesting how much of that narrative remains unchanged. The 2006 World Cup was a kind of cultural awakening here, something that has carried over into subsequent World Cups. I've been told by several people that the 2006 World Cup was the single greatest month of their lives, that the country existed in a kind of magical glow during the month-long tournament, that for the entire month of June it never rained on a game day. That the German team did well, unexpectedly making it to the semifinals under Jürgen Klinsmann, certainly added to the euphoria. During Germany's tournament run, a documentary crew followed the team, recording Klinsmann's impassioned team talks and the emotion with which the fans cheered the team. The film is called Deutschland, Ein Sommermärchen (it translates to Germany, A Summer Fairytale). It's unclear if the filmmakers came up with that name, or if it originated elsewhere, more organically, but today that's what the summer of 2006 is called: the Sommermärchen.

So that's one way to look at the World Cup in Germany, as a moment when Germans are allowed to be proud and dream big and hope without baggage, like little kids.

Another way to look at the World Cup in Germany is like this: "German people are openly talking about being superior (at soccer) to other nations. They're painting their faces and raving about Germany, and, oh my God, I can see that slippery slope right there!" This cautious handwringing does not represent a fringe stance in Germany. There's a sense among the older generation especially—and among more left-wing, intellectual kinds of German soccer fans—that these youngsters (and they're usually youngsters who increasingly have no living connection to the war) aren't showing enough respect for the past and the trouble nationalism has wrought in Germany. There's a worry that whatever lies between patriotism and nationalism is blurred during the World Cup, and that whenever the last ball is kicked, there might not be anything left between the two at all.

Maybe this seems a little paranoid and conservative, but then something like this happens, and, well, you get a funny feeling in your stomach.

A handful of kids burning a Portuguese flag is obviously the work of a small group, and it's the kind of thing that would embarrass just about every fun-loving, tournament-enjoying German, but it's also enough to show how questions about whether the World Cup is a positive or negative influence on German society are not as unreasonable as the Sommermärchen might imply. This is a country still trying to work through the horrors of its past.

As an American living in Germany, I often consider how the country of my birth is a kind of photographic negative of the country in which I live. You can come up with a lot of examples of this: One country is a conglomeration of a bunch of old duchies and principalities and one is made up of relatively new states. One is big, one is small. One is filled with optimistic, open people, while the other is full of private pragmatists.

But the example I think about most is the one about The War: One country won and the other lost. Is there any event in either country's history that continues to looms as large as World War II? That affects either country's foreign policy to a greater degree? That shapes how each country's citizens view themselves and their place in the world? The respective consequences of winning or losing have been equally profound for both countries. One of the consequences is that Germans worry a great deal about where unchecked nationalist zeal might take them. Nationalism in the United States, however, is hardly given a thought.

Here's another consequence, this one courtesy of Steve Cherundolo, the recently-retired defender for the US national team. Cherundolo was born in California but has lived his entire adult life in Germany. Years ago, at the beginning of Cherundolo's professional career, a young German writer named Gunnar Berndt asked Cherundolo to describe the differences between the two countries. Cherundolo said, "The US is a hero culture." He isn't the first to make such an observation, but it's pretty astute, especially in the context of soccer. In the absence of a of WWII veterans' parade, there's no better way to observe America's hero culture than by turning on the tube and watching 11 of them run around in Brazil.

There's a problem though: heroes are often impervious to criticism. It's one of their powers. Rather than look into what went wrong, the immediate aftermath of the USA-Belgium game featured a lot of praise of the US players, who never gave up and fought hard. (Did other countries give up? I can't think of any.) They did play hard, and they didn't give up, but the longer we sit around and praise their "American spirit," the harder it becomes to engage in constructive criticism and really grow. And not to belabor the point, but our view of World War II suffers from the same problem. We talk a great deal about the Greatest Generation, the important things they accomplished, and their sacrifice, but we rarely see past the heroes. We rarely wonder about the more morally murky parts of that war—the fire bombings of Tokyo and Dresden and the use of nuclear weapons against Hiroshima and Nagasaki, to name a few.

Our unchecked nationalism and love affair with heroes have created a weird atmosphere in which Americans casually take to Twitter during a soccer match to talk winning World War II, Nazis, and the US being "the best," in a general, non-soccer sense—a rhetoric that is both xenophobic and oddly dated. We nonchalantly lord moral superiority over others as though it were 1945 instead of 2014. Somewhere in the intervening years, we've lost the idea that there's a difference between wanting what's best for your country and being a dick. For Americans, going overboard has become the point.

So next time the German Mannschaft plays, consider the notion that for Germans, in one way or another, the game is the latest benchmark on their country's continued struggle to work through its past, that the match is a continuation of a discussion about how to love your country without going overboard.

It's a discussion we ought to be having too. Because if there's one lesson World War II taught us, it's be careful with nationalism. And remember, even heroes have flaws.