Crisis in Oekraïne #60 Beyond the Crimea

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 20:05 schreef Frikandelbroodje het volgende:

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michaeldweiss twitterde op maandag 24-03-2014 om 18:39:24 Putin Falsified Crimean ‘Referendum’ Results, Illarionov Says | The Interpreter http://t.co/g1ApPQXpUZ via @Interpreter_Mag reageer retweet

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:20 schreef waht het volgende:

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Goh, raar zeg. Russen vallen haar landje binnen en ze wil terugvechten. Wat een gewelddadige hoer.

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According to the secretary of the National Security and Defense Andriy Parubiy, Russian Federation still considers invading the continental part of Ukraine. This information was confirmed by Andriy Parubiy himself during the briefing.

Russian forces keep coming to Ukrainian borders and at this moment around 100.000 of armed Russian soldiers are ready to invade the territory of Ukraine even despite all the official claims coming from Kremlin.

“We can say with a firm that the Russian side keeps following its plan, so called “Russian Spring”. They continue working towards destabilizing the situation in the South-Eastern regions,” said Parubiy.

He also mentioned that almost every single day Ukrainian patrols capture diversion groups that are being sent from the Russian side in order to destabilize the situation and capture administrative buildings.

“Only during the past two days in the city of Odessa we managed to capture a diversion group of 4. They were armed with assault rifles and pistols. In Chernihivs’ka oblast’ we captured a citizen of Russian federation who tried to pass the Ukrainian border with the ammo supplies and in Kherson we arrested a suspect who have been collecting information about Ukrainian army forces,” mentioned Parubiy. He also added that today not far from the city of Odessa a group of unknown men attacked the weaponry.

During the whole special operation we also were lucky to capture a couple of Russian leaders who happen to lead radically oriented groups. Their main function was to destabilize the current situation in Eastern regions.

“So, we continue to monitor the ongoing situation in the 8 South-Eastern regions of Ukraine while diversion groups keep coming to Ukraine in order to destabilize the current situation and create a reason for Russian intervention. Right now the biggest danger is coming from the Odess’ka oblast’ that measures with Transnistia.”

In the end of t briefing, the secretary of the National Security and Defense Andriy Parubiy said that Ukrainian soldiers area ready to protect their Motherland.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 20:11 schreef theNull het volgende:

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Ja die heeft ook dit gezegd:
http://www.globalpost.com(...)ar-Andrei-Illarionov

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AP twitterde op maandag 24-03-2014 om 20:20:56 BREAKING: Diplomat: G-7 to hold June summit in Brussels instead of G-8 meeting in Russia. reageer retweet

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 20:18 schreef theNull het volgende:

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 20:23 schreef Nintex het volgende:

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100.000 troepen, het waren er eerst 20k, ja dat gaat uit de hand lopen.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 20:23 schreef Nintex het volgende:

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100.000 troepen, het waren er eerst 20k, ja dat gaat uit de hand lopen.

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The Russian military presence includes combat troops, heavy armor, attack helicopters, highly trained airborne forces and special-operations troops, the officials said. They stressed that there has been no change in the number or equipment in recent days.

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General Philip Breedlove, Natos supreme allied commander, described the Russian force that began exercises 10 days ago as very, very sizeable and very, very ready.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 20:11 schreef theNull het volgende:

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Ja die heeft ook dit gezegd:
http://www.globalpost.com(...)ar-Andrei-Illarionov

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Staunton, March 24 – The majority of residents of Crimea almost certainly did not vote to join the Russian Federation, according to a detailed analysis of that vote by Andrey Illarionov, and Putin’s claimed victory was, as many have suspected, the result of the kind of massive falsification Putin has perpetrated in Russian elections in the past.

Illarionov’s detailed discussion of this issue is convincing, but it is especially important because it calls attention to a trend Putin and his supporters have done everything they can to suppress: support in Crimea for joining the Russian Federation had in fact been declining rather than increasing, a development that may have contributed to the timing of Moscow’s action.

In a blog post over the weekend, Illarionov begins by citing the statement of former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yuliya Timoshenko who said that only 34 percent of Crimean residents voted for joining the Russian Federation, not the 97 percent Vladimir Putin has claimed (echo.msk.ru/blog/aillar/1284798-echo/).

Speaking on “Shuster Live,” Timoshenko said that “according to the data of the leaders of the Crimean Tatar people, only a little more than 34 percent of Crimeans voted for unity with Russia.” That figure, she suggested, is “very close to the truth” (zn.ua/POLITICS/timoshenko-zayavila-chto-za-prisoedinenie-k-rossii-progolosovala-lish-tret-krymchan-141729_.html).

Such figures correspond with the results of polls taken in Crimea in early to mid-February, Illarionov point out. One by the Democratic Initiative found that 35.9 percent of Crimeans favored joining Russia, and a second by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology found a figure of 41.0 percent (dif.org.ua/en/events/ukrainieyu-ne-hochut.htm).

And these in turn replicate the findings of still earlier samplings by the Research and Branding Goup and the Gallup Institute and International Republican Institute, he says (argumentua.com/novosti/vpervye-bolshinstvo-krymchan-khotyat-videt-krym-v-sostave-ukrainy and 112.ua/video/prisoedinenie-kryma-k-rossii-rezultaty-golosovaniya-na-krymskom-kanale-atr.html?type=90106).

Such expressions of public opinion in Crimea not only call into question the results Moscow claimed but suggest that those who currently accept them as somehow valid or at least indicative of a majority in the peninsula need to look more closely at those who have examined Russian falsifications of the vote (kireev.livejournal.com/1005294.html).

“At a minimum,” Illarionov says, “two-thirds of the residents of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea did not vote for joining [it] to present-day Putin’s Russia.” Consequently, the chief ideological prop of the Kremlin on this issue falls apart and means that Putin is relying on naked force alone, something that those concerned about Ukraine and the future should focus on.

More such analyses are likely to appear in the coming days, and one can only hope they will have an impact on thinking in the West as well as in Russia. But already they have called attention to something that Putin has preferred not to talk about and that may explain why he acted when he did even more than references to the Maidan.

Nine months ago, Tatyana Ivzhenko of Moscow’s “Nezavsimaya gazeta” reported that “Russia is losing influence on Crimean residents,” a conclusion she said arose from the findings of new polls there. To the extent that is true, Putin may have felt he had to move when he did lest support for him and for Russia were to fall further (ng.ru/cis/2012-09-14/1_crym.html?print=Y).

Some commentators are likely to insist that the Maidan changed everything, that the Kyiv demonstrations intensified the national feelings of ethnic Russians in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. There is likely some truth in that, but more recent soundings show that most ethnic Russians even in those regions put Ukrainian citizenship above Russian ethnicity.

Had Putin not played up Russian nationalist sentiment and used it as the basis for an invasion and seizure of Ukrainian territory, Ukraine would likely have been able to integrate its ethnic Russians as full-fledged Ukrainian citizens and would have been a state interested in at least cooperative relations with Moscow.

But Putin’s actions have unified Ukrainians in ways few had thought possible even several weeks ago, and they are likely to remain unified against Moscow in much the same way the victims of Russian aggression on other occasions are. One can only hope that Russians in Ukraine will nonetheless reject Putin’s inversion of ethnicity and citizenship.

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U.S. Intelligence Officials Believe Snowden Is Working With Russia, Lawmaker Says

By BRIAN KNOWLTON
March 23, 2014

WASHINGTON — A top congressional intelligence official said on Sunday that American counterintelligence officials are virtually unanimous in believing that Edward J. Snowden is “under the influence of Russian intelligence services.”

That suggestion came from Representative Mike Rogers, the Michigan Republican who is chairman of the Intelligence Committee.

Mr. Rogers had previously raised the possibility that Mr. Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor, might be working for Russia, though the congressman has yet to offer any evidence. His assertions on Sunday, however, were his most sweeping to date.

“Every counterintelligence official believes that,” Mr. Rogers said on the NBC News program “Meet the Press.” “You won’t find one that doesn’t believe today he’s under the influence of Russian intelligence services.”

For Mr. Rogers, the question now is when that supposed collaboration began: after Mr. Snowden arrived in Moscow from Hong Kong in late June, or even before then, when he abruptly left Hawaii in May.

“The more we look into this, I think the more you’re going to find that that date gets further and further away from his story,” Mr. Rogers said.

In a Jan. 19 appearance on the same NBC program, Mr. Rogers said that some of Mr. Snowden’s actions in absconding with secret N.S.A. materials were “beyond his technical capabilities.”

But investigators have disclosed no evidence that Mr. Snowden’s work, while under contract to the N.S.A., might have been directed by a foreign power.

Ben Wizner, an American Civil Liberties Union lawyer who advises Mr. Snowden, has vigorously rejected Mr. Rogers’s contentions, noting that Mr. Snowden tried to gain asylum in several other countries before settling in Russia.

There has been no public indication that investigators for the F.B.I., the N.S.A. or the Pentagon have uncovered evidence that Mr. Snowden received assistance from any foreign intelligence service.

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Hungary’s approval to EU-Ukraine association agreement “treason”, says Jobbik

Hungary’s recent signing of the association agreement between the European Union and Ukraine equals to giving up Hungary’s national interests, a lawmaker of radical nationalist Jobbik said on Monday calling the ratification an “overt act of treason”.

Istvan Szavay slammed the government for “unconditionally serving the EU” and said that Hungary should have defined preconditions for its support. He added that he thought approving the association agreement was not in Hungary’s interests and suggested that the act was important for the EU in its “geopolitical chess game with Russia over Ukraine”.

Szavay insisted that the government had lied in that “Ukraine’s new language law would ensure the same rights” as the former legislation. It is not true, either, that Transcarpathian Hungarians do not want autonomy, the lawmaker added.

Jobbik insists that there would be a need for Hungarian-Ruthenian autonomy in Transcarpathia, he said.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 21:46 schreef meth1745 het volgende:

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http://www.politics.hu/20(...)treason-says-jobbik/

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 21:56 schreef DeJori het volgende:

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Ah, ze beginnen de restjes van west Oekraïne al op te delen

Niet dat we Jobbik te serieus moeten nemen. Die hebben volgens mij niet veel steun in hun eigen parlement, is het wel?

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Measured according to its representation in the European Parliament and the National Assembly, it is Hungary's third largest party.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 21:36 schreef Jor_Dii het volgende:
Rusland dus uit de G8 geschopt..

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(Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama and major industrialized allies warned Russia on Monday it faced damaging economic sanctions if President Vladimir Putin takes further action to destabilize Ukraine following the seizure of Crimea.

Leaders of the Group of Seven, meeting without Russia, agreed to hold their own summit this year instead of attending a planned G8 meeting in the Russian Olympic venue of Sochi, along the Black Sea coast from Crimea, and to suspend their participation in the G8 until Russia changes course.

On a day when Kiev ordered its remaining troops to withdraw from Crimea and Russian forces used force to capture a marine base and a landing ship, leaders of the United States, Germany, France, Britain, Italy, Japan and Canada condemned what they called "Russia's illegal attempt to annex Crimea in contravention of international law".

They also agreed to work together to reduce their dependence on Russian oil and gas.

"We remain ready to intensify actions including coordinated sectoral sanctions that will have an increasingly significant impact on the Russian economy, if Russia continues to escalate this situation," they said in a joint statement.

The G7 leaders, who met on the sidelines of a nuclear security summit in The Hague, said they would meet again in Brussels in early June, the first time since Russia joined the G8 in 1998 that it will have been shut out of the annual summit of industrialized democracies.

Obama, who has imposed tougher sanctions on Moscow than European leaders over its takeover of the strategic peninsula, told reporters: "Europe and America are united in our support of the Ukrainian government and the Ukrainian people".

"We're united in imposing a cost on Russia for its actions so far," he said of the visa bans and asset freezes slapped on senior Russian and Crimean officials.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 22:12 schreef meth1745 het volgende:

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http://www.reuters.com/ar(...)dUSBREA2N10620140324
"work together to reduce their dependence on Russian oil and gas", Europa belooft meer gas en olie van Canada en de VS te kopen?

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The Natural Gas Act of 1938, as amended, requires anyone who wants to import or export natural gas, including liquefied natural gas (LNG) from or to a foreign country must first obtain an authorization from the Department of Energy. The Office of Oil and Gas Global Security and Supply, Division of Natural Gas Regulatory Activities is the one-stop-shopping place to obtain these authorizations in the Department. The import/export authorizations are necessary for anyone who wants to import or export natural gas, including LNG.

http://energy.gov/fe/services/natural-gas-regulation

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 23:00 schreef vigen98 het volgende:
Rusland isoleren helpt voor geen meter

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 23:06 schreef vigen98 het volgende:

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Dat het westen wanhopig is, ze kunnen niks en de wil ontbreekt ook.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 23:09 schreef vigen98 het volgende:

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Ik snap wel waarom Oekraïne zo reageert omdat toch opeens een stuk land niet meer van hun is, maar ze moeten toch wel erkennen dat het niet meer Oekraïne is en dat de bevolking daar voor Rusland koos