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  maandag 19 augustus 2013 @ 19:50:18 #181
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Anonymous Hacks UK Government Site in Response to Detention of David Miranda

United Kingdom authorities have detained David Miranda, Glenn Greenwald's partner. Greenwald is the journalist responsible for publishing the information obtained by Edward Snowden from the NSA. Anonymous hackers have responded to the incident by hacking a UK government website.

The fact that UK authorities have detained Miranda has been heavily criticized – including by Amnesty International – despite the fact that he was released after nine hours of questioning.

For their part, the hacktivists have defaced the official website of the Mole Valley District Council (molevalley.gov.uk), which they've used to publish a statement.

“We expect there to be many pointed questions asked in the coming days, both domestically and internationally as to how and why an already ridiculously broad and draconian act of law was ripped of its last remaining shred of legitimacy in what cannot be described as anything other than an act of pure spite and intimidation, an act intended to exert a chilling effect on a stream of high-quality journalistic reporting whose historic importance cannot possibly be overstated,” the hackers said.

The statement is accompanied by a table comprised of the personal details of US government employees. The table includes information on their children, parents, spouses and friends.

The hacktivists say that if Miranda can be detained under terrorism legislation just because he’s related to Greenwald, based on the same theory, other possible terrorists might be related to people working in the US government and military.

“We encourage anyone who is interested in preventing terror attacks to fully investigate these spouses and siblings and mothers and fathers and son and daughters, before they too are embroidered in terrible terror plots of the most heinous variety,” Anonymous members said.

Finally, they conclude their statement with a threat. The hackers say they’re preparing something that’s “befitting the gravity of the crimes.”

“Oh, and before we go, we should probably mention that we have been very, very angry over the last few months -- and very, very busy. The only reason you have not heard from us before now is that we have been waiting and watching as the leaks come out and the spooks trip up over own lies and distortions,” the hacktivists noted.

At the time of writing, the Mole Valley Council website still hosts Anonymous’ statement.

Bron: news.softpedia.com
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  maandag 19 augustus 2013 @ 20:05:08 #182
172669 Papierversnipperaar
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Andrew Sullivan took this lesson from the detention:
"So any journalist passing through London’s Heathrow has now been warned: do not take any documents with you. Britain is now a police state when it comes to journalists, just like Russia is."
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
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Schandalige gang van zaken, maar het zal allemaal wel weer aflopen met een sisser helaas.
  maandag 19 augustus 2013 @ 20:34:34 #184
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafeďne is ook maar een drug.
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TIME Magazine Reporter Michael Grunwald Calls For Murder Of Julian Assange | FDL News Desk

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AssangeC twitterde op zondag 18-08-2013 om 03:12:45 @MikeGrunwald I am informed you tweeted to the world, that you cant wait to defend the extra judicial murder of my son Julian #Assange. reageer retweet
Michael Grunwald, TIME magazine’s “senior national security correspondent,” decided to advocate for Julian Assange’s violent murder (in an embassy no less) on twitter saying:

I can’t wait to write a defense of the drone strike that takes out Julian Assange.

A petition has already been created asking TIME to remove Grunwald from national security reporting as clearly he is biased if not unhinged. You can not advocate murdering someone and cover them objectively or really any issue surrounding the individual. And given that Wikileaks is connected to Snowden and the larger issue of government secrecy and civilian privacy in the 21st century - it is unlikely Grunwald can really function in that field. He is going to run into the issue again and again and it seems that transparency advocates give him bloodlust.

However, there may be a larger point here. The attempt by the corporate/mainstream media to defend the Obama Administration’s police state isn’t working. A recent poll showed that 70% of Dems and 77% of Republicans say NSA surveillance intrudes on privacy rights. Establishment media and politicians are losing the argument. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say they can no longer effectively propagandize the public.

This loss of power by two different factions within the American kleptocratic elite must be causing immense insecurity and anxiety. They feel the intense desire to reassert dominance over the means of communication in hopes of regaining control of the public’s imagination. Part of this manifests itself in renewed attempts to control the internet, which the corporate media by and large supports. Another aspect is the State Terrorism against supposed threats through the use of drones to kill American citizens. To people like Michael Grunwald – who admits to not believing in the Constitution – Julian Assange is a threat and worthy of death. Assange threatens the 1% and in Grunwald’s world that is the ultimate crime.

Obviously, Grunwald, for all his skill set on national security, is now proving himself to be just another “dry dip stick” in our national media infrastructure.

To wit, I grew up in a “poor” family, served in our military, and spent a considerable amount of my life in the Latin America Region, and thusly, became quickly acquainted with “national security, foreign policy, as well as economics and finance. Hell, I was even offered on two differing occasions, a professorship at distinguished universities, and to which I refused. Being considered a “spy” in several instances, does not make for a longlasting career.

Therefore, when I think of our nation’s “unmet needs” relative to either domestic policy or foreign policy, invariably, none of our decision-makers notify the general public on just encompasses these “unmet needs” relative to the decision-making, other than spending taxpayer dollars. And with this in mind, aside from the assorted propaganda efforts by the Obama administration and the “opposition” readily found in Congress, no mention is made of foreign decision-makers that have inserted themselves into our foreign policy efforts, writ large.

Take, for example, the drone strikes that are ongoing in Yemen. For all this “dirty work” or “heavy lifting” and depending on one’s political affinities, it is obvious that Saudi Arabia has an “unmet need” that the USA is willing to address in the guise of “dirty work” since Al Quaeda is in Yemen, and which is bedeviling the Royal Family in Saudi Arabia.

And needless to say, but I will, Michael Grunwald has no inkling that America is ‘getting its chain’ pulled by the Royal Family, and ultimately, the oil and gas industry ‘needs’ the continuing access to the marketplace for the sale of its black gold, albeit, the role of the Middleman located here in the U.S..

Now, I will step down from my “soap box.”

Jaango

And remember Assange’s big crime was embarrassing the Bullshit Artists. Thou shalt not embarrass your overlord or their minions.
Humanity is in a transition and while much suffering seems to be due us in the near term I am hopeful (and their are signs which should be interpreted as hopeful) that the “new” enlightenment will rid our public offices of these mentally ill people who have no capacity for empathy and should clearly be prohibited from representing a constituency of humans whatever the Government system.

Jaango & BSbafflesbrains = kudos!!!

Let’s see … If this had been tweeted by a member of Occupy,
and the subject of the fantasy was a government official instead of Assange,
how long would it be before an FBI SWAT team was knocking down their door?

Yet another example of liberal media bias.

Color me unsurprised. Geez. “senior national security correspondent” from lapdog poodle Time corporate-fascist propoganda sheet. No kidding.

I am hearing more citizens talk about the “propoganda media.”

It’s really almost “good” when some jerkwad spews forth seriously disgusting crap like this. It reveals the PTB for who they are, and serves to remind the 99% that We, The People, are, after all, 99%.

Shameful and should be fired….Is this kind of advocacy not illegal?

A petition has already been created asking TIME to remove Grunwald from national security reporting as clearly he is biased if not unhinged

A better response: remove TIME from you subscription list. Grunwald is just the tip of TIME’s iceberg.

Exactly. Withholding dollars is the only action you can take that will get noticed by the Corporatocracy.

It is a Tweeter War! Embedded government shill Grunwald, and TIME magazine versus Julian Assange. This cannot end well. Grunwald makes the next move, calling his critics “anti-semitic”. Yes, that always is successful to play the anti-semitic card.

Michael Grunwald ✔ @MikeGrunwald

It was a dumb tweet. I’m sorry. I deserve the backlash. (Maybe not the anti-Semitic stuff but otherwise I asked for it.)
7:36 PM – 17 Aug 2013

And stay on that Soap Box Jaango!

dumb is tweetese for reprehensible, contemptible despicable I guess.

Grunwald’s tweet sounds like something you’d expect from a terrorist didn’t it?

A related comment … If I had ever read Orwell’s “1984″ it would have been 40 years ago. However, I just downloaded and listened to Blackstone Audio’s recording of “1984″ from overdrive.com through my local library’s site and highly recommend it if you haven’t read the book in a while.

Time has been in the red for years. The only place you see it is in the Dentist’s office, about 2 months out of date. Can anyone imagine paying for a copy of Time magazine?

Dumb to admit that’s what he thinks but in no way a misrepresentation of his views.

Does anyone still subscribe to Time? I stopped about 10 years ago.

If I was the Man of the Year I still wouldn’t buy a copy.

God, how I love the smell of angry tweets so early in the morning. Yes, Grunwald was dumb, for admitting that his threatening tweet might be interpreted as a threatening tweet. So he deleted the tweet. And the internet forgot that tweet. Ha ha just kidding.

Michael Grunwald ✔ @MikeGrunwald

Fair point. I’ll delete. @rober1236Jua my main problem with this is it gives Assange supporters a nice safe persecution complex to hide in
6:54 PM – 17 Aug 2013

I almost bought a copy. Black cover with honey bee in center. May be a good article – who knows? But I thought (before I read this) Do I really want to spend $4.95 on Time magazine?

There’s plenty of stuff about bees on internet – and that is the point, no?

Yeah, that’s it, I ALWAYS cheer for tweeted death threats and defend them to the death UNLESS the tweeter is Jewish.

Agreed!

Considering Assange is holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy, there’s no way those of us in Latin America can interpret this other than a call for using death squads (ok, robo-death squads) against a Latin American nation. You’d think, given the stink over trying to access Bolivian President Morales’ plane that YOU. DO. NOT. JOKE. ABOUT. THESE. THINGS.

For those keeping score at home, my original comment was snark.

I went back and read Grunwald’s piece on “balancing” liberty and security in Time. The quality of his reasoning would be embarrassingly low at a corner bar after the third round of beers.

Calling for the assassination of anyone should be a firing offense at any respectable news organization.

BUT TERRORISTS AND THE CHILDREN!!!

He works for TIME.

You’d think they would at least take away his afternoon Starbucks break.

Hilarious that this hack tweeted about others persecution complex, then hid behind his religion as if he was being persecuted.

Fascism must be called out everywhere it raises its head.

Bron: news.firedoglake.com
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
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2s.gif Op maandag 19 augustus 2013 19:45 schreef Nemephis het volgende:

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Dat 'vrij' brokkelt meer en meer af.

En vreemd genoeg lijkt het maar een paar mensen wat te kunnen schelen.
Dat komt omdat het niet op RTL4/NOS te zien is, lijkt me. Het gros zal hier nooit van horen.
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0s.gif Op maandag 19 augustus 2013 22:32 schreef Disorder het volgende:

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Dat komt omdat het niet op RTL4/NOS te zien is, lijkt me. Het gros zal hier nooit van horen.
Ja, in discussies op de FP is dat wel te zien: Het merendeel gelooft alleen wat de MSM (god wat klinkt dat aluminiumhoedjesachtig) bericht. Een klein beetje achtergronden zoeken op internet en je hebt veel meer info. Maar als je daarover iets zegt op de FP ben je meteen Niburu-gekkie wat in niet-bestaande complotten gelooft...
  maandag 19 augustus 2013 @ 23:33:42 #187
171727 StateOfMind
Ancient Astronaut
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2s.gif Op maandag 19 augustus 2013 22:47 schreef Nemephis het volgende:

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Ja, in discussies op de FP is dat wel te zien: Het merendeel gelooft alleen wat de MSM (god wat klinkt dat aluminiumhoedjesachtig) bericht. Een klein beetje achtergronden zoeken op internet en je hebt veel meer info. Maar als je daarover iets zegt op de FP ben je meteen Niburu-gekkie wat in niet-bestaande complotten gelooft...
Frappant genoeg blijkt achteraf vaak dat de 'alu-hoedjes' toch stiekem wel gelijk hebben gehad in veel gevallen, maar dáár hoor je 'men' dan weer niet over.
Perhaps you've seen it, maybe in a dream.
A murky, forgotten land.
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0s.gif Op maandag 19 augustus 2013 22:32 schreef Disorder het volgende:

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Dat komt omdat het niet op RTL4/NOS te zien is, lijkt me. Het gros zal hier nooit van horen.
Het staat allemaal wel in de Nederlandse kranten.
The view from nowhere.
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Maar natuurlijk hebben ze niks verkeerd gedaan :')
Scotland Yard ziet geen kwaad in vasthouden partner Guardian-journalist

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De Britse politie ziet geen kwaad in het urenlang vasthouden van de partner van de journalist die onthullingen deed over Amerikaanse en Britse geheime diensten. Dat blijkt uit een reactie van Scotland Yard op het incident.

Volgens de politie was het aanwenden van terrorismewetgeving om de 28-jarige David Miranda tegen te houden en te ondervragen 'juridisch en procedureel' in de haak. De politie heeft niet bekendgemaakt op welke gronden Miranda precies is vastgehouden.

Miranda werd zondag 9 uur vastgehouden en ondervraagd op de Londense luchthaven Heathrow. De Braziliaan is de partner van journalist Glenn Greenwald van The Guardian. Hij deed onthullingen over de werkwijze van de Amerikaanse inlichtingendienst NSA en de Britse inlichtingendienst GCHQ op basis van documenten van de Amerikaanse klokkenluider Edward Snowden.

Miranda zelf heeft Groot-Brittannië beschuldigd van een 'totaal misbruik van macht'. Volgens de Braziliaan dreigden zijn ondervragers dat hij in de gevangenis zou belanden als hij niet zou meewerken. Ze zouden hem hebben gedwongen wachtwoorden van zijn telefoon en computer te geven. De politie nam onder meer zijn computer en een harde schijf in beslag.

'Het was vermoeiend en frustrerend, maar ik wist dat ik niets verkeerd deed', aldus Miranda. De Braziliaan was onderweg van Berlijn naar Rio de Janeiro. Naar eigen zeggen had Miranda 'materialen' bij zich van de Amerikaanse filmmaakster Laura Poitras die voor zijn partner Greenwald waren bestemd. Poitras werkt ook aan verhalen over de NSA-affaire.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
  dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 @ 09:29:09 #190
45206 Pietverdriet
Ik wou dat ik een ijsbeer was.
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Het lijkt gvd wel of we onder een totalitair regiem komen
In Baden-Badener Badeseen kann man Baden-Badener baden sehen.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 09:29 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:
Het lijkt gvd wel of we onder een totalitair regiem komen
Zullen er vacatures vrijkomen bij het ministry of love denk je?
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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14s.gif Op dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 10:36 schreef Barbusse het volgende:

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Zullen er vacatures vrijkomen bij het ministry of love denk je?
Minilove. :D
  dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 @ 10:49:17 #193
256363 ZoKanIkHetOok
Also twitterte Zarathustra.
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1s.gif Op dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 10:39 schreef robin007bond het volgende:

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Minilove. :D
Miniluv toch?
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 10:49 schreef ZoKanIkHetOok het volgende:

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Miniluv toch?
Weet het niet zeker. :@
  dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 @ 11:48:15 #195
45206 Pietverdriet
Ik wou dat ik een ijsbeer was.
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In Baden-Badener Badeseen kann man Baden-Badener baden sehen.
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:r

Vreselijk zeg. Het is maar de vraag of je nog kan spreken van een democratische rechtsstaat als de media de mond gesnoerd wordt.
  dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 @ 13:22:58 #198
45206 Pietverdriet
Ik wou dat ik een ijsbeer was.
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Maar als de NSA zo geweldig is, waarom hebben zij dan die harde schijven niet gewist....
In Baden-Badener Badeseen kann man Baden-Badener baden sehen.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 09:29 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:
Het lijkt gvd wel of we onder een totalitair regiem komen
Dit ook een bijpassend thema: The Permanent War on Terror

The view from nowhere.
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Mag toch hopen dat er backups zijn.

Waarom is dit geen 'trending topic' op Fok?.... Onze vrijheden gaan eraan as we speak.
  dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 @ 18:10:58 #201
45206 Pietverdriet
Ik wou dat ik een ijsbeer was.
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2s.gif Op dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 17:05 schreef Nemephis het volgende:

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Mag toch hopen dat er backups zijn.

Waarom is dit geen 'trending topic' op Fok?.... Onze vrijheden gaan eraan as we speak.
Iets met kikkers in een pan.
In Baden-Badener Badeseen kann man Baden-Badener baden sehen.
  dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 @ 18:24:55 #202
13456 AchJa
Shut up!!!
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2s.gif Op dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 17:05 schreef Nemephis het volgende:

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Mag toch hopen dat er backups zijn.

Waarom is dit geen 'trending topic' op Fok?.... Onze vrijheden gaan eraan as we speak.
Die waren al verkwanseld op het moment dat de: "Ik heb toch niks te verbergen!" opmerkingen kwamen...

Met aansluitend de opmerking, als je wel wat te verbergen had, je vast een terrorist of pedo was.
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2s.gif Op dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 17:05 schreef Nemephis het volgende:

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Mag toch hopen dat er backups zijn.

Waarom is dit geen 'trending topic' op Fok?.... Onze vrijheden gaan eraan as we speak.
alsof iemand dat wat interesseert -O-
zo lang goede tijden en ik hou van holland nog op tv komen hebben mensen het te druk :')
blablablablablablablablablablablablablabla
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2s.gif Op maandag 19 augustus 2013 19:45 schreef Nemephis het volgende:

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Dat 'vrij' brokkelt meer en meer af.

En vreemd genoeg lijkt het maar een paar mensen wat te kunnen schelen.
Is het ooit vrij geweest?
  dinsdag 20 augustus 2013 @ 21:32:42 #206
18159 Dlocks
Zoek het maar op met Google...
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0s.gif Op maandag 19 augustus 2013 22:32 schreef Disorder het volgende:

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Dat komt omdat het niet op RTL4/NOS te zien is, lijkt me. Het gros zal hier nooit van horen.
Ik weet niet hoor, maar je wordt (ook) in de MSM bij wijze van spreken doodgegooid met berichtgeving over dit onderwerp.

Meerderheid maakt zich er totaal niet druk omdat (ze denken/vinden) dat het hun niet direct raakt op dit moment. Oftewel, ze hebben er geen last van.

Zaken als "wat eten we vanavond", "wat voor weer wordt het morgen", "wat gaan we doen tijdens vakantie", "wat komt er op TV vanavond" e.d. is waar men zich 'druk' om maakt.

Of in de VS, daar maakte de burger wel druk om wat er met het zorgstelsel ging gebeuren (obama care). Want dat raakt bepaalde burgers direct.
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Ik denk dat het de gewone mens pas zal raken wanneer het hen letterlijk in hun gevoel van privacy aantast. Zolang het een ander overkomt, een journalist of een klokkenluider, maakt het ze geen donder uit.
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Ik ben bang dat het dan te laat is. Ook ik verbaas me over het gebrek aan ophef. Het afluisteren met die proporties, en 'we' weten nog niet alles, doen de praktijken van de Stasi af als een leuke poging. Wat mij ook verontrust is het gebrek aan reacties van landen van de EU, wat een aantal dingen kan betekenen, waarvan de meest voor de hand liggende is dat ze het wisten en/of zelf ook dergelijke praktijken toepassen.
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Meer over Groklaw op geenstijl: http://www.geenstijl.nl/m(...)ieuw_s.html#comments

In het kort: Groklaw is een forum waar juridische discussies over technische zaken & technische discussies over juridische zaken werden gevoerd, rond open source, copyright en anti-trust zaken.

In het afscheidsbericht van de eigenaar staat:

"Years ago, when I was first on my own, I arrived in New York City, and being naive about the ways of evil doers in big cities, I rented a cheap apartment on the top floor of a six-floor walkup, in the back of the building. That of course, as all seasoned New Yorkers could have told me, meant that a burglar could climb the fire escape or get to the roof by going to the top floor via the stairs inside and then through the door to the roof and climb down to the open window of my apartment.

That is exactly what happened. I wasn't there when it happened, so I wasn't hurt in any way physically. And I didn't then own much of any worth, so only a few things were taken. But everything had been pawed through and thrown about. I can't tell how deeply disturbing it is to know that someone, some stranger, has gone through and touched all your underwear, looked at all your photographs of your family, and taken some small piece of jewelry that's been in your family for generations.

If it's ever happened to you, you know I couldn't live there any more, not one night more. It turned out, by the way, according to my neighbors, that it was almost certainly the janitor's son, which stunned me at the time but didn't seem to surprise any of my more-seasoned neighbors. The police just told me not to expect to get anything back. I felt assaulted. The underwear was perfectly normal underwear. Nothing kinky or shameful, but it was the idea of them being touched by someone I didn't know or want touching them. I threw them away, unused ever again.

I feel like that now, knowing that persons I don't know can paw through all my thoughts and hopes and plans in my emails with you.

They tell us that if you send or receive an email from outside the US, it will be read. If it's encrypted, they keep it for five years, presumably in the hopes of tech advancing to be able to decrypt it against your will and without your knowledge. Groklaw has readers all over the world."
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