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quote:Edward Snowden: the whistleblower answers the essential questions on the biggest leak in NSA history
Source for the Guardian's NSA files on why he carried out the biggest intelligence leak in a generation – and what comes next
Edward Snowden was interviewed over several days in Hong Kong by Glenn Greenwald and Ewen MacAskill.
Q: Why did you decide to become a whistleblower?
A: "The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything. With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your emails or your wife's phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your emails, passwords, phone records, credit cards.
"I don't want to live in a society that does these sort of things … I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under."
Q: But isn't there a need for surveillance to try to reduce the chances of terrorist attacks such as Boston?
A: "We have to decide why terrorism is a new threat. There has always been terrorism. Boston was a criminal act. It was not about surveillance but good, old-fashioned police work. The police are very good at what they do."
Q: Do you see yourself as another Bradley Manning?
A: "Manning was a classic whistleblower. He was inspired by the public good."
Q: Do you think what you have done is a crime?
A: "We have seen enough criminality on the part of government. It is hypocritical to make this allegation against me. They have narrowed the public sphere of influence."
Q: What do you think is going to happen to you?
A: "Nothing good."
Q: Why Hong Kong?
A: "I think it is really tragic that an American has to move to a place that has a reputation for less freedom. Still, Hong Kong has a reputation for freedom in spite of the People's Republic of China. It has a strong tradition of free speech."
Q: What do the leaked documents reveal?
A: "That the NSA routinely lies in response to congressional inquiries about the scope of surveillance in America. I believe that when [senator Ron] Wyden and [senator Mark] Udall asked about the scale of this, they [the NSA] said it did not have the tools to provide an answer. We do have the tools and I have maps showing where people have been scrutinised most. We collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians."
nsa whistleblower Snowden is a 29-year-old former technical assistant for the CIA
Q: What about the Obama administration's protests about hacking by China?
A: "We hack everyone everywhere. We like to make a distinction between us and the others. But we are in almost every country in the world. We are not at war with these countries."
Q: Is it possible to put security in place to protect against state surveillance?
A: "You are not even aware of what is possible. The extent of their capabilities is horrifying. We can plant bugs in machines. Once you go on the network, I can identify your machine. You will never be safe whatever protections you put in place."
Q: Does your family know you are planning this?
A: "No. My family does not know what is happening … My primary fear is that they will come after my family, my friends, my partner. Anyone I have a relationship with …
I will have to live with that for the rest of my life. I am not going to be able to communicate with them. They [the authorities] will act aggressively against anyone who has known me. That keeps me up at night."
Q: When did you decide to leak the documents?
A: "You see things that may be disturbing. When you see everything you realise that some of these things are abusive. The awareness of wrong-doing builds up. There was not one morning when I woke up [and decided this is it]. It was a natural process.
"A lot of people in 2008 voted for Obama. I did not vote for him. I voted for a third party. But I believed in Obama's promises. I was going to disclose it [but waited because of his election]. He continued with the policies of his predecessor."
Q: What is your reaction to Obama denouncing the leaks on Friday while welcoming a debate on the balance between security and openness?
A: "My immediate reaction was he was having difficulty in defending it himself. He was trying to defend the unjustifiable and he knew it."
Q: What about the response in general to the disclosures?
A: "I have been surprised and pleased to see the public has reacted so strongly in defence of these rights that are being suppressed in the name of security. It is not like Occupy Wall Street but there is a grassroots movement to take to the streets on July 4 in defence of the Fourth Amendment called Restore The Fourth Amendment and it grew out of Reddit. The response over the internet has been huge and supportive."
Q: Washington-based foreign affairs analyst Steve Clemons said he overheard at the capital's Dulles airport four men discussing an intelligence conference they had just attended. Speaking about the leaks, one of them said, according to Clemons, that both the reporter and leaker should be "disappeared". How do you feel about that?
A: "Someone responding to the story said 'real spies do not speak like that'. Well, I am a spy and that is how they talk. Whenever we had a debate in the office on how to handle crimes, they do not defend due process – they defend decisive action. They say it is better to kick someone out of a plane than let these people have a day in court. It is an authoritarian mindset in general."
Q: Do you have a plan in place?
A: "The only thing I can do is sit here and hope the Hong Kong government does not deport me … My predisposition is to seek asylum in a country with shared values. The nation that most encompasses this is Iceland. They stood up for people over internet freedom. I have no idea what my future is going to be.
"They could put out an Interpol note. But I don't think I have committed a crime outside the domain of the US. I think it will be clearly shown to be political in nature."
Q: Do you think you are probably going to end up in prison?
A: "I could not do this without accepting the risk of prison. You can't come up against the world's most powerful intelligence agencies and not accept the risk. If they want to get you, over time they will."
Q: How to you feel now, almost a week after the first leak?
A: "I think the sense of outrage that has been expressed is justified. It has given me hope that, no matter what happens to me, the outcome will be positive for America. I do not expect to see home again, though that is what I want."
Ik hoor er nog te weinig over en waar blijven die oorlog of sancties?
Het verschil tussen de regering en de maffia is dat de maffia georganiseerd is.
- Wiet van Broeckhoven
- Wiet van Broeckhoven
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
welke oorlog?quote:Op dinsdag 23 juli 2013 22:39 schreef Greyson het volgende:
Ik hoor er nog te weinig over en waar blijven die oorlog of sancties?
Op zondag 8 december 2013 00:01 schreef Karina het volgende:
Dat gaat me te diep sp3c, daar is het te laat voor.
Dat gaat me te diep sp3c, daar is het te laat voor.
Zoals te verwachten was lieten politici enkel en alleen even voor de bühne van zich horen om vervolgens weer terug te kruipen in hun schulp.quote:
Ik hoor er nog te weinig over en waar blijven die oorlog of sancties?
Op zich niet vreemd. De halve wereld doet immers min of meer het zelfde. Politici kunnen dus niet al te moeilijk gaan doen over dit soort zaken.
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
Jammer dat Stefan Molyneux eindigt met een hoop libertarisch gezever vanaf 32:25quote:
The view from nowhere.
Nee, dat is juist belangrijk.quote:Op woensdag 24 juli 2013 12:21 schreef deelnemer het volgende:
[..]
Jammer dat Stefan Molyneux eindigt met een hoop libertarisch gezever vanaf 32:25
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
Germany seeks EU support for online privacy charter after NSA revelations
Protesters against NSA surveillance in Griesheim, Germany. The revelations have become a key election issue in the country. (Photograph: Boris Roessler/DPA/Corbis)
Data protection watchdogs in Germany call for suspension of agreement with US amid concern about surveillance
Senior German officials are seeking European support for a new global charter safeguarding personal privacy online, as the country's data protection watchdogs called for the suspension of a key agreement with the United States over revelations about US intelligence-gathering on the internet.
The moves reflect concerns in Germany that the US National Security Agency (NSA) may have collected personal information on millions of web users in breach of national and international rules. The claim, made by the NSA leaker Edward Snowden, has become an election issue in Germany two months before the country goes to the polls.
A letter sent by Germany's foreign and justice ministers to their European Union counterparts proposes expanding a 1966 UN human rights treaty to cover modern forms of communication such as email, instant messaging and social media.
"We want to use the current debate to launch an initiative that would outline the inalienable privacy rights under current conditions," the two ministers wrote. The letter, sent last week but released only on Wednesday, suggests convening a meeting of all 167 parties to the international covenant on civil and political rights. The United States ratified the treaty in 1992.
US officials have defended the NSA programmes as necessary to prevent terrorist attacks.But Germany's independent privacy watchdogs said the surveillance programmes breached an EU-US pact meant to ensure cross-border data protection.
The 2000 "safe harbour" agreement requires US companies to grant European customers the same level of data protection they could expect in Europe – even if their data is processed or stored elsewhere. But according to Snowden, one NSA programme known as Prism gives the agency comprehensive access to customer data from companies such as Google and Facebook.
The data protection commissioners said the practice in effect made interception of personal data routine, rather than the exception, and urged European officials to consider suspending the agreement "in view of the excessive surveillance activities of foreign intelligence agencies".
Guardian
Protesters against NSA surveillance in Griesheim, Germany. The revelations have become a key election issue in the country. (Photograph: Boris Roessler/DPA/Corbis)
Data protection watchdogs in Germany call for suspension of agreement with US amid concern about surveillance
Senior German officials are seeking European support for a new global charter safeguarding personal privacy online, as the country's data protection watchdogs called for the suspension of a key agreement with the United States over revelations about US intelligence-gathering on the internet.
The moves reflect concerns in Germany that the US National Security Agency (NSA) may have collected personal information on millions of web users in breach of national and international rules. The claim, made by the NSA leaker Edward Snowden, has become an election issue in Germany two months before the country goes to the polls.
A letter sent by Germany's foreign and justice ministers to their European Union counterparts proposes expanding a 1966 UN human rights treaty to cover modern forms of communication such as email, instant messaging and social media.
"We want to use the current debate to launch an initiative that would outline the inalienable privacy rights under current conditions," the two ministers wrote. The letter, sent last week but released only on Wednesday, suggests convening a meeting of all 167 parties to the international covenant on civil and political rights. The United States ratified the treaty in 1992.
US officials have defended the NSA programmes as necessary to prevent terrorist attacks.But Germany's independent privacy watchdogs said the surveillance programmes breached an EU-US pact meant to ensure cross-border data protection.
The 2000 "safe harbour" agreement requires US companies to grant European customers the same level of data protection they could expect in Europe – even if their data is processed or stored elsewhere. But according to Snowden, one NSA programme known as Prism gives the agency comprehensive access to customer data from companies such as Google and Facebook.
The data protection commissioners said the practice in effect made interception of personal data routine, rather than the exception, and urged European officials to consider suspending the agreement "in view of the excessive surveillance activities of foreign intelligence agencies".
Guardian
"The 2000 "safe harbour" agreement requires US companies to grant European customers the same level of data protection they could expect in Europe – even if their data is processed or stored elsewhere."
Hier kunnen we wat mee.
Hier kunnen we wat mee.
House vote reflects growing revolt over NSA surveillance
Justin Amash has added his voice to the chorus of criticism over the NSA's bulk collection of metadata. (Photograph: J Scott Applewhite/AP)
Six weeks ago, only a few in Congress were ready to challenge the government on surveillance – but opposition has grown
The House vote to block NSA funding for one of its data collection programmes is the biggest manifestation yet of a revolt that has steadily grown over the last two months.
When the Guardian and Washington Post first revealed the documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, there were relatively few in Congress prepared openly to challenge the government over intrusions into privacy.
The challenge was largely restricted to the two long-term sceptics, senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall. This left Barack Obama able to claim that the surveillance was not secret because every member of Congress had been briefed about it, and that every piece of legislation since 2006 related to it had been passed with large bipartisan majorities.
Towards the end of June, opposition to the surveillance programme began to grow. Wyden and Udall were joined by 24 other senators to send a joint letter to to intelligence chiefs complaining about a secret body of laws and misleading statements by officials.
At a House judiciary hearing last week, member after member said that while they had little sympathy for Snowden, they were glad about the revelations and repeatedly challenged the NSA and justice department officials at the hearing.
The scheduled House vote brings together a potent combination of progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans. Such is the strength of feeling that they are prepared to defy not only pleas from the White House and personal appearances on the Hill by intelligence chiefs, but their own congressional leaders.
The very fact that the vote was to be held enraged the Wall Street Journal, which, in an editorial, wrote: "Few things are more dangerous than Congress in heat, and so it is this week as a libertarian-left wing coalition in the House of Representatives is rushing to neuter one of the National Security Agency's anti- terror surveillance programs."
It added: "The last thing Congress should do is kill a program in a rush to honor the reckless claims of Mr Snowden and his apologists."
Congress is due to begin a five-week recess at the start of August, and much of the momentum will go out off the issue, at least on the Hill. But there will be more hearings in in the autumn, and more votes. Proposed reform of the Patriot Act, which authorises much of the surveillance, has already been introduced. One of the changes would require the government to demonstrate a clear link to terrorism or spying before being allowed to collect Americans' private information.
Changes are also proposed to reform the ultra-secret Fisa court, which issues warrants for surveillance. Many members of Congress vote because they regard such issues as a matter of principle but others are also motivated by pressure from voters.
Wyden mentioned this on Tuesday in speech in Washington, saying Americans were stunned by the scale of the surveillance. "And, boy, are they angry. You hear it in the lunchrooms, town hall meetings and senior citizen centres," Wyden said.
And the public will almost certainly be still engaged in that debate when Congress returns in September. A Washington Post/ABC News poll published Wednesday showed concerns about personal privacy have grown. The poll suggested about three-quarters of Americans see the NSA programmes as infringing on their rights to privacy.
In the aftermath of 9/11, when there was overwhelming concern over security, the balance has gradually shifted, with the poll finding 57% in favour of unfettered investigations and 39% seeing protection of privacy as the more important.
There will likely be more disclosures in the media that will keep the debate alive. And legal actions are pending. A preliminary court hearing is scheduled for Thursday in New York at which the American Civil Liberties Union is challenging the constitutionality of the NSA's mass collection of phone records. The ACLU said it will be the first time that the government has been forced to address NSA surveillance in court.
All this puts pressure on the White House to act. The Obama administration responds that it has already made gestures but these are so minor and modest they have made little impact on public consciousness. Big concessions will be required to allay public concerns.
The growing revolt helps Snowden. The Washington Post/ABC News poll shows a drop in public support for him, with 53% saying he should be charged with a crime for his leaks against 43% less than a month ago. But the debate he started can only help him if he is ever arrives back on US soil. Given the debate he has started, it makes it harder for the justice department to argue that he is not a whistleblower,
For the moment, Snowden is at the mercy of the Russian authorities, possibly doomed to a life of exile there unless they relent and allow him to leave for Latin America – assuming a way can be found for him to get there avoiding US attempts to intercept him.
But he can at least have the satisfaction of feeling that the revolt has vindicated the disclosures he made in Hong Kong
Guardian
Justin Amash has added his voice to the chorus of criticism over the NSA's bulk collection of metadata. (Photograph: J Scott Applewhite/AP)
Six weeks ago, only a few in Congress were ready to challenge the government on surveillance – but opposition has grown
The House vote to block NSA funding for one of its data collection programmes is the biggest manifestation yet of a revolt that has steadily grown over the last two months.
When the Guardian and Washington Post first revealed the documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, there were relatively few in Congress prepared openly to challenge the government over intrusions into privacy.
The challenge was largely restricted to the two long-term sceptics, senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall. This left Barack Obama able to claim that the surveillance was not secret because every member of Congress had been briefed about it, and that every piece of legislation since 2006 related to it had been passed with large bipartisan majorities.
Towards the end of June, opposition to the surveillance programme began to grow. Wyden and Udall were joined by 24 other senators to send a joint letter to to intelligence chiefs complaining about a secret body of laws and misleading statements by officials.
At a House judiciary hearing last week, member after member said that while they had little sympathy for Snowden, they were glad about the revelations and repeatedly challenged the NSA and justice department officials at the hearing.
The scheduled House vote brings together a potent combination of progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans. Such is the strength of feeling that they are prepared to defy not only pleas from the White House and personal appearances on the Hill by intelligence chiefs, but their own congressional leaders.
The very fact that the vote was to be held enraged the Wall Street Journal, which, in an editorial, wrote: "Few things are more dangerous than Congress in heat, and so it is this week as a libertarian-left wing coalition in the House of Representatives is rushing to neuter one of the National Security Agency's anti- terror surveillance programs."
It added: "The last thing Congress should do is kill a program in a rush to honor the reckless claims of Mr Snowden and his apologists."
Congress is due to begin a five-week recess at the start of August, and much of the momentum will go out off the issue, at least on the Hill. But there will be more hearings in in the autumn, and more votes. Proposed reform of the Patriot Act, which authorises much of the surveillance, has already been introduced. One of the changes would require the government to demonstrate a clear link to terrorism or spying before being allowed to collect Americans' private information.
Changes are also proposed to reform the ultra-secret Fisa court, which issues warrants for surveillance. Many members of Congress vote because they regard such issues as a matter of principle but others are also motivated by pressure from voters.
Wyden mentioned this on Tuesday in speech in Washington, saying Americans were stunned by the scale of the surveillance. "And, boy, are they angry. You hear it in the lunchrooms, town hall meetings and senior citizen centres," Wyden said.
And the public will almost certainly be still engaged in that debate when Congress returns in September. A Washington Post/ABC News poll published Wednesday showed concerns about personal privacy have grown. The poll suggested about three-quarters of Americans see the NSA programmes as infringing on their rights to privacy.
In the aftermath of 9/11, when there was overwhelming concern over security, the balance has gradually shifted, with the poll finding 57% in favour of unfettered investigations and 39% seeing protection of privacy as the more important.
There will likely be more disclosures in the media that will keep the debate alive. And legal actions are pending. A preliminary court hearing is scheduled for Thursday in New York at which the American Civil Liberties Union is challenging the constitutionality of the NSA's mass collection of phone records. The ACLU said it will be the first time that the government has been forced to address NSA surveillance in court.
All this puts pressure on the White House to act. The Obama administration responds that it has already made gestures but these are so minor and modest they have made little impact on public consciousness. Big concessions will be required to allay public concerns.
The growing revolt helps Snowden. The Washington Post/ABC News poll shows a drop in public support for him, with 53% saying he should be charged with a crime for his leaks against 43% less than a month ago. But the debate he started can only help him if he is ever arrives back on US soil. Given the debate he has started, it makes it harder for the justice department to argue that he is not a whistleblower,
For the moment, Snowden is at the mercy of the Russian authorities, possibly doomed to a life of exile there unless they relent and allow him to leave for Latin America – assuming a way can be found for him to get there avoiding US attempts to intercept him.
But he can at least have the satisfaction of feeling that the revolt has vindicated the disclosures he made in Hong Kong
Guardian
De stemming over het amendement waarover het artikel in de post van Misty_eyes gaat is zojuist geweest, 205-217...quote:Op woensdag 24 juli 2013 23:27 schreef Misty_eyes het volgende:
House vote reflects growing revolt over NSA surveillance
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Voor de mensen die beweerden dat het nieuwe NSA datacenter yottabytes of zettabytes zou kunnen opslaan:
http://www.forbes.com/sit(...)essive-than-thought/
http://www.forbes.com/sit(...)essive-than-thought/
quote:If Kahles estimations and assumptions are correct, the facility could hold up to 12,000 petabytes, or 12 exabytes which is a lot of information(!) but is not of the scale previously reported.
WEB / [HaxBall #64] Jos is God
Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics.
Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics.
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
De vraag stellen is hem beantwoorden.quote:
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
De eerste helft van de video is samenvatting van de laatste ontwikkelingen.quote:
[..]
De vraag stellen is hem beantwoorden.
The view from nowhere.
Had hem al gezien.quote:
De vraag stellen is hem beantwoorden.
De eerste helft van de video is samenvatting van de laatste ontwikkelingen.
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
Dat er in Nederland veel wordt getapt was wel bekend. Ik vraag me alleen af: grijpt de AIVD eerder naar deze methode van inlichtingenverzameling dan andere, buitenlandse, diensten of is er in Nederland ook daadwerkelijk noodzaak voor?quote:
Voormalig NSA-chef: in Nederland wordt veel meer afgeluisterd
Noodzaak?quote:
[..]
Dat er in Nederland veel wordt getapt was wel bekend. Ik vraag me alleen af: grijpt de AIVD eerder naar deze methode van inlichtingenverzameling dan andere, buitenlandse, diensten of is er in Nederland ook daadwerkelijk noodzaak voor?
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
Ik zie dat niet terug in de hoeveelheid opgeloste misdrijven iig
In Baden-Badener Badeseen kann man Baden-Badener baden sehen.
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
Ja, zo een hofstadgroep is ook getapt. Niet geheel onverstandig zo is gebleken. Dat zie ik als noodzaak.quote:
Daarom vraag ik me af hoe die verhoudingen liggen. Als er geen aanleiding is ga je niet voor de lol een beetje tappen.
Je weet één voorbeeld te noemen. Er is in Nederland meer noodzaak dan bij de grootste vijand van vele mensen Amerika? Maar fijn voor het oh zo vrije Nederland om op zo'n manier gebruikt te worden in het verweer van de NSA. En het ergste is wel dat het de meeste mensen geen zak uitmaakt 
.
.
Armed robbery. With a replica. I mean, how the fuck can it be armed robbery with a fucking replica?
Ja, dat vraag ik dus. Misschien dat hier toevalligerwijs iemand met relevante kennis zit of empirische bewijzen/bronnen heeft die een verklaring geven voor dit fenomeen.quote:
Je weet één voorbeeld te noemen. Er is in Nederland meer noodzaak dan bij de grootste vijand van vele mensen Amerika?
Het is een opsporingsmethode. Er is in Nederland geen speciale dreiging dat verklaart waarom er hier zoveel meer gebruik van gemaakt wordt. De verklaring moet gezocht worden in het beperkte gewicht dat men in Nederland toekent aan privacy en/of het grote vertrouwen in de overheid. In de VS is het recht op privacy verankerd in de grondwet, en in Nederland niet. In de VS hebben mensen weinig vertrouwen in de overheid.quote:
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Ja, dat vraag ik dus. Misschien dat hier toevalligerwijs iemand met relevante kennis zit of empirische bewijzen/bronnen heeft die een verklaring geven voor dit fenomeen.
Nederland kampioen eigen burgers aftappen
Aantal internettaps door justitie vervijfvoudigd
The view from nowhere.
Dat is inderdaad fors, die cijfers. Ik vraag me af welke argumenten de AIVD en het Ministerie van Justitie hiervoor aandragen, probleem is vaak dat dit wordt gehuld in mist aangezien het toch een geheime methodiek is van informatievergaring. Dan kan je als ''gewone burger'' wel een antwoord verlangen maar dat komt er toch niet, tenzij iemand (zie Snowden) uit de school klapt.quote:
[..]
Het is een opsporingsmethode. Er is in Nederland geen speciale dreiging dat verklaart waarom er hier zoveel meer gebruik van gemaakt wordt. De verklaring moet gezocht worden in het beperkte gewicht dat men in Nederland toekent aan privacy en/of het grote vertrouwen in de overheid. In de VS is het recht op privacy verankerd in de grondwet, en in Nederland niet. In de VS hebben mensen weinig vertrouwen in de overheid.
Nederland kampioen eigen burgers aftappen
Aantal internettaps door justitie vervijfvoudigd
De vraag is op wat voor gronden men overgaat op aftappen in al die individuele gevallen en wat dat oplevert. De burger zou moeten afdwingen dat men daarover opening van zaken geeft. Maar politici komen in Nederland overal mee weg. Dit land kent geen krachtig verzet vanuit de burgers, dat ook maar enig hout snijdt. Het gemor onder de bevolking is vrij dom en intellectueel lui. Men laat zich gemakkelijk afleiden of met een kluitje in het riet sturen. Veel klachten zijn misplaatst en de belangrijke zaken laat men lopen. Wij worden bestuurt, maar spelen zelf nauwelijks een rol in het debat. We kijken ernaar en geloven het wel.quote:
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Dat is inderdaad fors, die cijfers. Ik vraag me af welke argumenten de AIVD en het Ministerie van Justitie hiervoor aandragen, probleem is vaak dat dit wordt gehuld in mist aangezien het toch een geheime methodiek is van informatievergaring. Dan kan je als ''gewone burger'' wel een antwoord verlangen maar dat komt er toch niet, tenzij iemand (zie Snowden) uit de school klapt.
The view from nowhere.
Het artikel gaat verder.quote:Lawmakers Who Upheld NSA Phone Spying Received Double the Defense Industry Cash | Threat Level | Wired.com
The numbers tell the story — in votes and dollars. On Wednesday, the House voted 217 to 205 not to rein in the NSA’s phone-spying dragnet. It turns out that those 217 “no” voters received twice as much campaign financing from the defense and intelligence industry as the 205 “yes” voters.
That’s the upshot of a new analysis by MapLight, a Berkeley-based non-profit that performed the inquiry at WIRED’s request. The investigation shows that defense cash was a better predictor of a member’s vote on the Amash amendment than party affiliation. House members who voted to continue the massive phone-call-metadata spy program, on average, raked in 122 percent more money from defense contractors than those who voted to dismantle it.
Overall, political action committees and employees from defense and intelligence firms such as Lockheed Martin, Boeing, United Technologies, Honeywell International, and others ponied up $12.97 million in donations for a two-year period ending December 31, 2012, according to the analysis, which MapLight performed with financing data from OpenSecrets. Lawmakers who voted to continue the NSA dragnet-surveillance program averaged $41,635 from the pot, whereas House members who voted to repeal authority averaged $18,765.
Of the top 10 money getters, only one House member — Rep. Jim Moran (D-Virginia) — voted to end the program.
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled. We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in performance. Barack Obama will strengthen whistleblower laws to protect federal workers who expose waste, fraud, and abuse of authority in government. Obama will ensure that federal agencies expedite the process for reviewing whistleblower claims and whistleblowers have full access to courts and due process.
-Obama.
2008
Verder hoor je er weinig over omdat ze het nieuws succesvol hebben ondergesneeuwd met die hele zimmerman fabricatie.
Het enige wat deze regelrechte gang naar oorlog kan stoppen is als de amerikanen zelf in opstand komen tegen deze praktijken.
-Obama.
2008
Verder hoor je er weinig over omdat ze het nieuws succesvol hebben ondergesneeuwd met die hele zimmerman fabricatie.
Het enige wat deze regelrechte gang naar oorlog kan stoppen is als de amerikanen zelf in opstand komen tegen deze praktijken.
Vraag yvonne maar hoe tof ik ben, die gaf mij er ooit een tagje voor.
quote:'NSA kan inhoud e-mails en Facebook-berichten lezen'
De Amerikaanse inlichtingendienst NSA kan toch zonder gerechtelijk bevel de inhoud van e-mails en Facebook-berichten lezen. Dat werd eerder nog ontkend.
Dat schrijft de Britse krant The Guardian woensdag op basis van documenten die werden gelekt door klokkenluider Edward Snowden. Het programma XKeyscore verzamelt volgens de documenten niet alleen 'metadata' zoals afzenders en ip-adressen, maar ook de inhoud van berichten.
In materiaal dat bestemd was voor de training van nieuwe analisten schrijft de NSA zelf dat XKeyscore zijn 'breedst strekkende' systeem is, meldt The Guardian. Volgens één presentatie wordt "bijna alles wat een typische gebruiker op internet doet" verzameld.
Uit de documenten blijkt dat kan worden gezocht op basis van een e-mailadres of Facebook-gebruikersnaam. Er moet wel een 'rechtvaardiging' worden gegeven en in enkele menu's moet de analist aangeven in hoeverre zeker is dat het doelwit zich buiten de VS bevindt.
Onder de Amerikaanse wet is een gerechtelijk bevel nodig om Amerikanen af te luisteren, al kunnen communicaties tussen Amerikanen en buitenlanders wel zonder bevel worden afgetapt.
Ook de webgeschiedenis van internetgebruikers kan worden achterhaald, net als een lijst ip-adressen die een bepaalde website hebben bezocht. Waar al deze data precies vandaan komt wordt door de Guardian niet duidelijk gemaakt.
Het XKeyscore-systeem verzamelt zo veel data, dat het volgens de documenten de inhoud van berichten maar 3 tot 5 dagen kan bewaren. Metadata worden een maand lang bewaard.
In één maand van 2012 verzamelde XKeyscore minstens 41 miljard stukjes data, stelt The Guardian.
De documenten stellen dat er tot aan 2008 al 300 terroristen waren gevangen met behulp van gegevens uit XKeyscore.
In een verklaring aan de krant bevestigt de NSA het bestaan van XKeyscore. Het systeem wordt echter alleen ingezet tegen buitenlanders en als dit in het nationale belang is, stelt de inlichtingendienst.
"Beschuldigingen van wijd verspreide, ongecontroleerde toegang tot verzamelde NSA-data door analisten zijn simpelweg niet waar. Toegang tot XKeyscore wordt, net als bij alle analytische hulpmiddelen van de NSA, gelimiteerd tot personeel die toegang nodig hebben voor hun toegewezen taken. Bovendien zijn er meerdere technische, handmatige en toezichthoudende controles binnen het systeem die misbruik voorkomen."
"Elke zoekopdracht door een NSA-analist is volledig controleerbaar, om ervoor te zorgen dat ze gepast en wettelijk zijn."
Toen klokkenluider Edward Snowden zijn identiteit bekendmaakte, zei hij in een interview dat hij 'zelfs de president' zou kunnen afluisteren als hij zijn persoonlijke e-mailadres had.
In een tweede interview met The Guardian heeft hij verklaard dat deze uitspraak deels was gebaseerd op de mogelijkheid om met XKeyscore e-mails te doorzoeken, stelt de krant.
Deze mogelijkheid werd onlangs nog ontkend door Mike Rogers, hoofd van de inlichtingencommissie van het Amerikaanse Huis van Afgevaardigden. "Hij liegt", zei Rogers toen. "Het is onmogelijk om te doen wat hij zegt te kunnen doen."
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
quote:National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden has been given one year temporary political asylum in Russia. Snowden has reportedly already left the Moscow airport where he has been holed up for over a month.
WikiLeaks announced that Snowden would make a statement on Thursday about the whistleblower Bradley Manning, who was found guilty of espionage on Wednesday.
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Edward Snowden leaves moscow airport live
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The view from nowhere.
http://jonrappoport.wordp(...)d-could-see-through/quote:Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through
Jun25 by Jon Rappoport
Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through
By Jon Rappoport
June 25, 2013
www.nomorefakenews.com
Sometimes cognitive dissonance, which used to be called contradiction, rings a gong so loud it knocks you off your chair.
But if you’re an android in this marvelous world of synthetic reality, you get up, put a smile back on your face, and trudge on…
Let’s see. NSA is the most awesome spying agency ever devised in this world. If you cross the street in Podunk, Anywhere, USA, to buy an ice cream soda, on a Tuesday afternoon in July, they know.
They know if you sit at the counter and drink that soda or take it and move to the only table in the store. They know if you lick the foam from the top of the glass with your tongue or pick the foam with your straw and then lick it.
They know if you keep the receipt for the soda or leave it on the counter.
They know whether you’re wearing shoes or sneakers. They know the brand of your underwear. They know your shaving cream, and precisely which container it came out of.
But this agency, with all its vast power and its dollars…
Can’t track one of its own, a man who came to work every day, a man who made up a story about needing treatment in Hong Kong for epilepsy and then skipped the country.
Just can’t find him.
Can’t find him in Hong Kong, where he does a sit-down video interview with Glenn Greenwald of The Guardian. Can’t find that “safe house” or that “hotel” where he’s staying.
No. Can’t find him or spy on his communications while he’s in Hong Kong. Can’t figure out he’s booked a flight to Russia. Can’t intercept him at the airport before he leaves for Russia . Too difficult.
And this man, this employee, is walking around with four laptops that contain the keys to all the secret spying knowledge in the known cosmos.
Can’t locate those laptops. Can’t hack into them to see what’s there. Can’t access the laptops or the data. The most brilliant technical minds of this or any other generation can find a computer in Outer Mongolia in the middle of a blizzard, but these walking-around computers in Hong Kong are somehow beyond reach.
And before this man, Snowden, this employee, skipped Hawaii, he was able to access the layout of the entire US intelligence network. Yes. He was able to use a thumb drive.
He walked into work with a thumb drive, plugged in, and stole…everything. He stole enough to “take down the entire US intelligence network in a single afternoon.”
Not only that, but anyone who worked at this super-agency as an analyst, as a systems-analyst supervisor, could have done the same thing. Could have stolen the keys to the kingdom.
This is why NSA geniuses with IQs over 180 have decided, now, in the midst of the Snowden affair, that they need to draft “tighter rules and procedures” for their employees. Right.
Now, a few pieces of internal of security they hadn’t realized they needed before will be put in place.
This is, let me remind you, the most secretive spying agency in the world. The richest spying agency. The smartest spying agency.
But somehow, over the years, they’d overlooked this corner of their own security. They’d left a door open, so that any one of their own analysts could steal everything.
Could take it all. Could just snatch it away and copy it and store it on a few laptops.
But now, yes now, having been made aware of this vulnerability, the agency will make corrections.
Sure.
The Matrix Revealed
And reporters for elite US media don’t find any of this hard to swallow.
A smart sixth-grader could see through this tower of fabricated baloney in a minute, but veteran grizzled reporters are clueless.
Last night, on Charley Rose, in an episode that left me breathless, a gaggle of pundits/newspeople warned that Ed Snowden, walking around with those four laptops, could be an easy target for Chinese spies or Russian spies who could get access to the data on those computers. The spies could just hack in.
But the NSA can’t. No. The NSA can’t find out what Snowden has. They can only speculate.
It’s charades within charades.
This whole Snowden affair is an op. It’s the kind of op that works because people are prepared to believe anything.
The tightest and strongest and richest and smartest spying agency in the world can’t find its own employee. It’s in the business of tracking, and it can’t find him.
It’s in the business of security, and it can’t protect its own data from its employees.
If you believe that, I have timeshares to sell in the black hole in the center of the Milky Way.
In previous articles (see Spygate on this blog), I’ve made a case for Snowden being a CIA operative who still works for his former employer. He was handed a bunch of NSA data by the CIA. He didn’t steal anything. The CIA wants to punch a hole in the NSA. It’s called an internal turf war. It’s been going on as long as those agencies have existed side by side.
For example….the money.
Wired Magazine, June 2013 issue. James Bamford, author of three books on the NSA, states:
“In April, as part of its 2014 budget request, the Pentagon [which rules the NSA] asked Congress for $4.7 billion for increased ‘cyberspace operations,’ nearly $1 billion more than the 2013 allocation. At the same time, budgets for the CIA and other intelligence agencies were cut by almost the same amount, $4.4 billion. A portion of the money going to…[NSA] will be used to create 13 cyberattack teams.”
That means spying money. Far more for NSA, far less for CIA.
Turf war.
Exit From the Matrix
But in this article, let’s stay focused on the fairy tales, which are the cover stories floated to the press, the public, the politicians.
We have reporters at the Washington Post and at The Guardian. We have Julian Assange, the head of Wikileaks. They’re all talking to Snowden. The NSA can spy on them. Right? Can listen to their calls and read their emails and hack into their notes. Just like people have been hacking into the work and home computers of Sharyl Attkisson, star CBS investigative reporter.
But the NSA can’t do all this spying and then use it to find Snowden. Just can’t manage it.
So…everybody in the world with a computer has passwords. The NSA can cut through them like a sword through hot butter. But Assange and the Post and Guardian and Snowden must have super-special passwords.
They got these passwords by sending a stamped self-addressed envelope, along with 25 cents, and a top from a cereal box, to The Lone Ranger. These passwords are charged with atomic clouds that obscure men’s minds so they cannot see or spy. They’re immortal and invulnerable.
The NSA can spy on anyone else in the world, but they can’t get their foot in the door, when it comes to the Post, The Guardian, and Assange.
And if Snowden winds up in Ecuador, that too will become an insurmountable mystery.
“Nope, we don’t know where he is. He’s vanished. Ecuador has a Romulan shield surrounding it. The cloaking technology is too advanced.”
Perhaps you recall that, in the early days of this scandal, Snowden claimed he could spy on anyone in the US, including a federal judge or even the president, if he had their email addresses.
Uh-huh. But the combined talents of the NSA, now, can’t spy on Snowden. I guess they just can’t find his email address.
Snowden isn’t the only savvy computer kid in the country. There must be a million people, at minimum, who can cook up email addresses that evade the reach of the NSA. Yes?
What we have here are contradictions piled on contradictions piled on lies.
And in the midst of this, a whole lot of people are saying, “Don’t look too closely. Snowden is a hero and he exposed the NSA and that’s a wonderful thing.”
And a whole lot of other people are saying, “Snowden is a traitor and he should be tried for treason or killed overseas. That’s all you need to know.”
The truth? Well, the truth, as they say, is the first casualty in war. But in the spying business, the truth was never there to begin with. That’s one of the requirements of the industry.
Son, if you think you’ve lied before, you haven’t got a clue. We’re going to tell you to do things that’ll make your head spin. That’s the game we’re in. We’re going to make you tell lies in your sleep.”
And these are the people the public believes.
It’s a beautiful thing. It really is. The fairy tales are made of sugar and the public, the press, and the people eat them. And then they ask for more.
Jon Rappoport
The author of two explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED and EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at www.nomorefakenews.com
http://www.theatlanticwir(...)ogle-searches/67864/quote:Google 'Pressure Cookers' and 'Backpacks,' Get a Visit from the Cops
]Michele Catalano was looking for information online about pressure cookers. Her husband, in the same time frame, was Googling backpacks. Wednesday morning, six men from a joint terrorism task force showed up at their house to see if they were terrorists. Which prompts the question: How'd the government know what they were Googling?
In het kort: Manlief heeft interesse in rugzakken en googled daarover. Vrouwlief heeft interesse in een hogedrukpan en googled daarover. Autoriteiten krijgen informatie over de google-zoekresultaten en laten een inval doen.
supertriest natuurlijk maar toch ...
lol
lol
Op zondag 8 december 2013 00:01 schreef Karina het volgende:
Dat gaat me te diep sp3c, daar is het te laat voor.
Dat gaat me te diep sp3c, daar is het te laat voor.
Da's echt wel erg zeg.
Weet de bron niet meer, maar er was ook een docent die - voor een op te stellen proefwerk scheikunde voor zijn klas - op internet aan het googlen was naar zwaar water. Terwijl er in de straaat waar hij woonde tevens een paar niet al te frisse figuren woonden.
Met die combinatie stonden er plots ook wat mannetjes voor de deur.
Maar in dat artikel
Weet de bron niet meer, maar er was ook een docent die - voor een op te stellen proefwerk scheikunde voor zijn klas - op internet aan het googlen was naar zwaar water. Terwijl er in de straaat waar hij woonde tevens een paar niet al te frisse figuren woonden.
Met die combinatie stonden er plots ook wat mannetjes voor de deur.
Maar in dat artikel
Waarom stellen ze die vragen? Dat moeten ze dan toch ook allemaal al wel weten dan?!?!?!quote:[T]hey were peppering my husband with questions. Where is he from? Where are his parents from? They asked about me, where was I, where do I work, where do my parents live.
Do you have any bombs, they asked. Do you own a pressure cooker? My husband said no, but we have a rice cooker. Can you make a bomb with that? My husband said no, my wife uses it to make quinoa. What the hell is quinoa, they asked. ...
How can I make this topic about me?
They mentioned that they do this about 100 times a week. And that 99 of those visits turn out to be nothing. I don’t know what happens on the other 1% of visits and I’m not sure I want to know what my neighbors are up to.quote:Op donderdag 1 augustus 2013 19:56 schreef Disorder het volgende:
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http://www.theatlanticwir(...)ogle-searches/67864/
In het kort: Manlief heeft interesse in rugzakken en googled daarover. Vrouwlief heeft interesse in een hogedrukpan en googled daarover. Autoriteiten krijgen informatie over de google-zoekresultaten en laten een inval doen.
The view from nowhere.
Dit bericht bewijst dat de FBI en de NSA de burgers in de VS en daarbuiten nauwlettend volgt via het internet. Doodeng.quote:
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http://www.theatlanticwir(...)ogle-searches/67864/
In het kort: Manlief heeft interesse in rugzakken en googled daarover. Vrouwlief heeft interesse in een hogedrukpan en googled daarover. Autoriteiten krijgen informatie over de google-zoekresultaten en laten een inval doen.
Anoniem surfen dus, met TOR. En zoeken met duckduckgo of lxquickquote:
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Dit bericht bewijst dat de FBI en de NSA de burgers in de VS en daarbuiten nauwlettend volgt via het internet. Doodeng.
How can I make this topic about me?
Ik gebruik inmiddels al een tijdje www.startpage.comquote:
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Anoniem surfen dus, met TOR.
De aanname dat de NSA alles weet en kan, is onzin.quote:
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http://jonrappoport.wordp(...)d-could-see-through/
The view from nowhere.
DuckDuckGo is based in Paoli, Pennsylvania, United States in Greater Philadelphia.quote:
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Anoniem surfen dus, met TOR. En zoeken met duckduckgo of lxquick
Waarom niet een Europees alternatief?
The view from nowhere.
NSA Confirms Dragnet Phone Records Collection & Admits It Was Key In Stopping Just 1 Terror Plot 1/2
NSA Confirms Dragnet Phone Records Collection & Admits It Was Key In Stopping Just 1 Terror Plot 2/2
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The view from nowhere.
heb je er een?quote:
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DuckDuckGo is based in Paoli, Pennsylvania, United States in Greater Philadelphia.
Waarom niet een Europees alternatief?
How can I make this topic about me?
