Menchov gaf bij zijn where-abouts ook gewoon aan dat hij in de grootste uithoek van Rusland aan het trainen wasquote:Op maandag 3 juni 2013 22:09 schreef debeterebob het volgende:
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Gewoon een undercover controleur die ook in de omgeving gaat 'trainen' en die dan uurtje later ineens voor de hut staat zou wel episch zijn![]()
Waarom denk je trouwens dat veel mensen op eilanden en ver afgelegen gebieden trainen...
Komt er op neer dat er in Italië ook geruchten zijn dat Nibali positief zou zijn.quote:Positivo Mauro Santambrogio della Vini Fantini e voci sulla positività di Nibali ?
Il ciclista italiano Mauro Santambrogio è risultato positivo all’Epo ad un controllo antidoping effettuato a Napoli il 4 maggio al termine della prima tappa del Giro d’Italia. Il test e’ stato disposto dall’Uci e la positività è stata riscontrata dal laboratorio di Roma. E’ il secondo ciclista positivo della Vini Fantini dopo Di Luca. Il ciclista lombardo aveva vinto la 14.ma tappa da Cerbera a Bardonecchia.
Santambrogio ha vinto la tappa di Bardonecchia davanti a Vincenzo Nibali che poi ha vinto il Giro, ma in queste ore ci sono voci anche sulla possibile positività del vincitore del Giro di quest’anno all’ Epo in una delle tappe della prima metà del Giro 2013, ancora i tutti controlli antidoping fatti al Giro 2013 non sono ancora resi noti, e una sorpresa è dietro l’ angolo.
http://ilnostrograndecicl(...)ositivita-di-nibali/
We moesten met Gabrovski ook tot half juli wachten.quote:Op maandag 3 juni 2013 23:49 schreef 4-elements het volgende:
Is Mustafa Sayar trouwens nog steeds niet betrapt?
Hij zegt dat 'an event will arrive'. Klinkt een beetje een probleem bij heel Astana, aangezien hij over het sterke collectieve rijden van Astana zegt 'answer soon. Not complicated to understand except to be blind.'.twitter:festinaboy twitterde op zaterdag 25-05-2013 om 19:31:04The Giro Organizer should wait a little bit before giving Nibali the price money. Really. Hang on ! reageer retweet
Zal idd wel om de opmerkingen van Vayer gaan.quote:Op dinsdag 4 juni 2013 00:02 schreef Ereinion het volgende:
Misschien het gerucht van Vayer?Hij zegt dat 'an event will arrive'. Klinkt een beetje een probleem bij heel Astana, aangezien hij over het sterke collectieve rijden van Astana zegt 'answer soon. Not complicated to understand except to be blind.'.twitter:festinaboy twitterde op zaterdag 25-05-2013 om 19:31:04The Giro Organizer should wait a little bit before giving Nibali the price money. Really. Hang on ! reageer retweet
twitter:VincenzoNibali twitterde op maandag 03-06-2013 om 23:45:00Essere competitivi non è mai facile, ma se non riuscirò più ad esserlo non sarà un problema come non lo è mai stato prima. Vado a testa alta reageer retweet
En hij zegt...?quote:Op dinsdag 4 juni 2013 00:06 schreef wimderon het volgende:
twitter:VincenzoNibali twitterde op maandag 03-06-2013 om 23:45:00Essere competitivi non è mai facile, ma se non riuscirò più ad esserlo non sarà un problema come non lo è mai stato prima. Vado a testa alta reageer retweet
Vertaling?quote:Op dinsdag 4 juni 2013 00:06 schreef wimderon het volgende:
twitter:VincenzoNibali twitterde op maandag 03-06-2013 om 23:45:00Essere competitivi non è mai facile, ma se non riuscirò più ad esserlo non sarà un problema come non lo è mai stato prima. Vado a testa alta reageer retweet
quote:Op dinsdag 4 juni 2013 00:14 schreef debeterebob het volgende:
Essere competitivi non è mai facile, ma se non riuscirò più ad esserlo non sarà un problema come non lo è mai stato prima. Vado a testa alta
Mijn Google Translate zegt:quote:
Ja de grote helden Di Luca en Santambrogio zijn al (weer) gevallen. Binnenkort weer eens een keertje Scarponi en een zeg Pellizotti of Pozzovivo. Gaat hard zo ineensquote:Op dinsdag 4 juni 2013 00:12 schreef Columbiafan het volgende:
Zou natuurlijk wel erg triest zijn voor het greintje geloofwaardigheid die de (Italiaanse) wielersport nog heeft, zeker bij het grote publiek.
Hij zegt dus zoiets dat concurrerend zijn moeilijk is, maar als het hem niet meer zal lukken, dan is dat geen probleem. Hij kan zijn hoofd hoog houden.quote:Op dinsdag 4 juni 2013 00:15 schreef Pino112 het volgende:
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Mijn Google Translate zegt:
"Being competitive is never easy, but if I can not be more to not be a problem as it has never been before. I'm going to head up"
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"Concurrerend zijn is nooit gemakkelijk, maar als ik niet meer kan zijn om een probleem omdat het nooit eerder is geweest niet. Ik ga aan het hoofd van"
Je zou bijna denken dat ze bij Sky het onderzoek van Armstrong heel goed hebben gelezen en maar wat belletjes naar de UCI hebben gedaan, want dat ze bij Astana harder rijden dan Sky, kan natuurlijk niet.quote:Op dinsdag 4 juni 2013 00:02 schreef Ereinion het volgende:
Misschien het gerucht van Vayer?Hij zegt dat 'an event will arrive'. Klinkt een beetje een probleem bij heel Astana, aangezien hij over het sterke collectieve rijden van Astana zegt 'answer soon. Not complicated to understand except to be blind.'.twitter:festinaboy twitterde op zaterdag 25-05-2013 om 19:31:04The Giro Organizer should wait a little bit before giving Nibali the price money. Really. Hang on ! reageer retweet
twitter:TheRaceRadio twitterde op dinsdag 04-06-2013 om 08:39:48Rumors of more positives to come. Did the new EPO test play a role in the latest positives? http://t.co/vf8AGzuZKr reageer retweet
quote:New EPO test could help stamp out microdosing
by Shane Stokes at 5:47 PM Sunday, February 03, 2013
Far better window of detection available
The practice of microdosing tiny amounts of EPO in order to evade detection could be stamped out by a new process which has been developed by researchers, with the MAIIA test showing much greater sensitivities in pinpointing those who have used the drug.
A new paper published in the Scandinavian Journal of Medicine & Science in Sports has shown that in subjects given microdoses, the sensitivity of the test was 100% for at least twelve hours after an injection. Approximately thirty percent of plasma samples still exceeded the 99.9% passport threshold a full 72 hours after the substance is used in that way.
Aside from far greater sensitivity than what is currently in place, the dipstick nature of the test means that it is also much faster to perform.
Jakob Morkeberg was the lead researcher on the project and believes that the test could prove very important in fighting doping in sport. “With a little more validation, I think we have a good alternative to the implemented tests for EPO,” he told VeloNation. “The PMI [percentage of migrating isoforms – ed.] variances that are build into the passport model are not that robust due to the relatively low number of control subjects from which the variances are derived. Nevertheless, these 'preliminary findings' are encouraging, based on the small dosages detected.”
Both Floyd Landis and Thomas Frei gave evidence in the past that with current EPO testing, it’s possible to inject the substance late at night and, by drinking plenty of water, be fully clear of the danger of detection by the time the testers call the next morning.
That meant that the standard EPO test has a real limitation, but the newer approach would be far better at snagging riders in that situation.
Morkeberg, who is based out of the Copenhagen Muscle Research Centre, was involved in implementing the internal testing programme used by Team CSC several years ago. He has been working hard to try to stamp out blood doping.
He said that the protocol for the research paper had cycling in mind. “I replicated a administration regime that could take place in the lead up and during a Grand Tour; relative small dosages in the lead up, and then micro/masking dosages during the GT,” he said.
It is not yet clear when the new test will be implemented, but it seems it will be a valuable addition to the fight against doping.
quote:So here we are again, another Giro d'Italia positive, another Italian, and another from the same Pro Continental team, Vini Fantini-Selle Italia.
A couple of weeks ago it was Danilo Di Luca who fell foul to the drug testers, this week it's the turn of team mate Mauro Santambrogio, who won the 14th stage of the first Grand Tour of the season.
There was the usual opprobrium from all quarters, as there was with Di Luca. It's a rising chorus when you add the immediate responses published to social media.
"Of course I am not happy, but I am not even surprised," said Giro d'Italia race organiser Michele Acquarone to TuttobiciWeb.it. "The nice thing is that the group is rebelling. The peloton is no longer accepting these things."
And for the second time in as many weeks we read the same old lamentations coming from Vini Fantani boss, Luca Scinto, who was apparently "distraught" with the situation.
“Everything’s finished, the whole project is finished,” Scinto told Tuttobiciweb.it. “What do you want me to tell you, I’m distraught, I’m ruined. I defended him like no other rider before because from (the Giro start in) Naples there were awful rumors about him going around the peloton.
“I didn’t want to believe them and on more than one occasion I had a face-to-face with him. He told me, ‘It’s only jealousy, Luca, calm down. But you can’t keep asking me these questions because they’re offensive'.
“What can I say? We’re distraught, myself and Angelo (Citracca, the team manager), because we know perfectly well it’s a mortal blow.”
Two weeks ago Scinto sounded like this: “I’m devastated. I never wanted Di Luca in the team. We have built our group on the sacred values of cycling and made the mistake of complying with a request, expressed many times, by our main sponsor ... who asked us to have faith in an athlete who was a dear friend of his.”
In the aftermath of the announcement we are hearing that just about everyone in the Giro peloton and organisation suspected Santambrogio of doping.
Sorry, but I'm calling BS on Luca Scinto, and here's why.
We published a link to the Santambrogio news article on our Facebook page and the comments came fast and furious. Surprisingly one of them was made by Huon Salmon-Genesys Wealth Advisers boss, Andrew Christie-Johnson.
It's rare that a team boss sticks his head above the parapet of the peloton, but as Aquarone said, there is less acceptance of the status quo these days.
"We raced this team in Kumano (Japan) just days ago. They managed to talk themselves out of a random test on the last stage. Said they would miss their flights home," Christie-Johnson wrote.
"Eight hours later we had tea with them prior to their departure from Japan. Didn't seem in any rush then.
"Seemed very wrong that the Japan drug testers just took their (Vini Fantini-Selle Italia) rider off the random list for the stage and swapped it to another rider from another team, especially in light of what's just happened."
Christie-Johnson later added: "This team should have their license withdrawn."
I agree with Christie-Johnson, Vini Fantini-Selle Italia should have its licence revoked, but not on the basis of two positive tests in just a couple of weeks, but because Scinto thinks we're stupid enough to believe his crocodile tears.
This is also a good moment for the International Cycling Union to show its apparently new colours. Sack the team immediately and start asking some hard questions of the race organisers in Japan.
quote:Op dinsdag 4 juni 2013 09:13 schreef heywoodu het volgende:
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyc(...)897/one-step-forward
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Jezus.quote:Op dinsdag 4 juni 2013 09:13 schreef heywoodu het volgende:
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyc(...)897/one-step-forward
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Dat zou wat zijn, CERA all over again. Al kwamen de èchte toppers er toen mee weg (al was Riccò misschien wel een echte topper toen).quote:Op dinsdag 4 juni 2013 08:56 schreef Mani89 het volgende:
Oud stukje dat werd gelinkt:[..]twitter:TheRaceRadio twitterde op dinsdag 04-06-2013 om 08:39:48Rumors of more positives to come. Did the new EPO test play a role in the latest positives? http://t.co/vf8AGzuZKr reageer retweet
quote:Gilbert: 'Geen doping nodig voor succes'
De positieve dopingtest van Giro-revelatie Mauro Santambrogio heeft tot heel wat verontwaardiging in het peloton geleid. Ook de Belgische wereldkampioen Philippe Gilbert reageerde dinsdag ontstemd op het nieuws over zijn Italiaanse collega.
'Vandaag train ik in Frankrijk want ik wil het slechte nieuws in de Gazetta dello Sport niet lezen als ik pauze neem voor een koffie. Het geval Santambrogio is onwerkelijk!', twitterde de renner van BMC. 'Als je succesvol wilt zijn, is het simpel. Je moet hard trainen, minder eten en meer rusten. Je hebt geen doping nodig, alleen heel wat motivatie.'
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